[a / b / c / d / e / f / g / gif / h / hr / k / m / o / p / s / t / u / v / vg / vm / vmg / vr / vrpg / vst / w / wg] [i / ic] [r9k / s4s / vip] [cm / hm / lgbt / y] [3 / aco / adv / an / bant / biz / cgl / ck / co / diy / fa / fit / gd / hc / his / int / jp / lit / mlp / mu / n / news / out / po / pol / pw / qst / sci / soc / sp / tg / toy / trv / tv / vp / vt / wsg / wsr / x / xs] [Settings] [Search] [Mobile] [Home]
Board
Settings Mobile Home
/news/ - Current News

Name
Options
Comment
Verification
4chan Pass users can bypass this verification. [Learn More] [Login]
  • Please read the Rules and FAQ before posting.

08/21/20New boards added: /vrpg/, /vmg/, /vst/ and /vm/
05/04/17New trial board added: /bant/ - International/Random
10/04/16New board for 4chan Pass users: /vip/ - Very Important Posts
[Hide] [Show All]


Janitor acceptance emails will be sent out over the coming weeks. Make sure to check your spam folder!


[Advertise on 4chan]


File: file.png (545 KB, 735x475)
545 KB PNG
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Now we know why ESL shill has been pissy lately

https://tvpworld.com/94490769/russians-hoard-cash-as-economic-pessimism-hits-20-year-high

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HOOHOOHOOHOOHOOHOOHOOHOOHOOHOOHOOHOOHOO
HEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEHEE
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

just fucking kill yourselves, russian faggots
>>
>>1525247
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVwKACdOs9k
UH OH!
>>
>>1525247
McCarthy didn't go far enough
Anyone who disagrees with me is the same person and they are a Russian bot or an ESL Shill
>>
>>1525250
But ESL shill, the Russians are the nazis. Just like the republicans are. Because they're all conservative, and evil.
>>
>>1525253
It sounds like you are using Nazis to describe people you don't like.
>>
>>1525255
So you admit you're a nazi too.
No wonder you love McCarthy so much.
>>
>>1525255
>act like nazis
>get offended when compared to nazis
Why are neonazis like this?
>>
>>1525247
On the one hand, Russians dying and suffering is a net positive for the world
On the other hand, you’re a colossal faggot and need to keep this shit on
/pol/
>>
>>1525269
>/news/ about Russia losing their latest war of aggression is not /news/worthy and needs to be contained to the board with the biggest concentration of Russia shills.
You're not even hiding it well vatnik.

Also some more bad news for the bad guys.
https://www.newsweek.com/ukrainian-f-16-shoots-down-russian-su-35-historic-first-12232481
>>
>>1525271
You're telling me Ukrainians have shot down 1 Russian jet this entire war and it was just now?
>>
>>1525280
First confirmed air-to-air kill, the majority of aircraft losses have been from ground-based air defenses. This has been true for most modern air conflicts, usually one side either has no real air force to begin with or gets most of their aircraft blasted while still at base during the opening of the war, and thus is forced to rely on SAMs and AAA. This war is unusual in that the Ukrainian air force is still capable of flying sorties this late in to the game against a supposedly superior air force. Granted most of the sorties they fly are defensive, scrambling to take out cruise missiles and drones going deep behind friendly lines, which keeps them relatively safe from enemy fire. This is the main reason for the lack of air-to-air kills on either side, as neither is willing to commit aircraft for offensive operations that aren't super cautious (such as air-launching cruise missiles).

Allegedly there was some air-to-air action at the start of the war, but nothing was confirmed, just some local cell footage of low-flying aircraft and the occasionally errant air-to-air missile crashing into a house.
>>
1525250
>McCarthy didn't go far enough
Someone went far enough in destroying McCarthy by simply giving that drunken subhuman enough political rope to hang itself with:
'I really believe that nothing will be so effective in combating his particular kind of troublemaking as to ignore him. This he cannot stand'
It took a former Supreme Commander in WWII with tactical genius to eliminate an enemy of America, by letting the laughingstock of the US Marines known as 'Tailgunner Joe' ultimately destroy itself due to its own retardation. Then let that subhuman alcoholic die a pickled irrelevance after becoming a pariah within its own political party.
That's why Dwight D. Eisenhower was the last decent Republican president.
>Anyone who disagrees with me is the same person
>McCarthy destroyed by Eisenhower
And in Soviet America, the only one that disagrees with you is you.
>they are a Russian bot or an ESL Shill
The only thing in /news/ projecting is you, self-admitted nazi.
>inb4 "schizo" etc
The only schizo here is you, 1525250 1525255..
>>
>>1525283
I was told that the Ghost of Kiev was making air to air kills in the first months of the war
>>
Nothing like witnessing esl shill in its natural habitat, pretending russia is strong. Nature is healing
>>
The irony of a paid Democrat shill false flagging fake Russian shills
>>
The irony of an unpaid projecting esl shill saying others are shills.
The duality of the hypocrite.
>>
>>1525580
The infamous "Ghost" was never real (at best a combination of every Ukrainian pilot's contributions during the first few days) but ironically only Russia keep bringing it up as "proof of Ukrainian lies." It's one of those weird things where one side is clearly bantering (hence pictures of Sam Hyde as the "Ghost") but the other side assumes this is super genuine and then never shuts up about it YEARS after the first side is done with the joke.
However it's very much in character for this war: Ukraine does some minor thing that should only be an inconvenience for the "mighty" Russian bear (air force manages to stay alive in the first few days, TB2s and NLAWs get a few lucky hits on tanks, HIMARS and helicopter deep strikes on depots, sea drones harassing the navy), it somehow becomes more than a minor inconvenience (AF continues to operate late in to the war, those lucky hits turn into entire armored columns stalling, depot strikes end up crippling logistics, the flagship Moscow is lost to a nation with no navy), and then the Russians never shut up about how the Ukrainians are "liars and won't shut up about Ghost of Kiev/Wunderwaffe/etc" despite being the only ones to still bring up those events unprompted.
>>
>>1525580
>>1525699
Haven't looked into but a funny explanation for the origin of the story that I've heard is that everyone expected Russia to decisively destroy the Ukrainian Airforce in the opening hours of the full scale invasion. So a story about a single pilot who managed to save their plane might have seemed more plausible than the reality that a large part of their airforce was fine
>>
>>1525247
Four and a half years after a '72 hour total conquering' of Ukraine, Putin's military credibility doesn't have a ghost of a chance.
What did you do in the war, mere former KGB officer Vlad? Just ask the women who not only built but crewed T-34 tanks during the Great Patriotic War.
>annexation of Sudetenland
>invasion of Poland
>annexation of Crimea
>invasion of Ukraine
Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it
>>
>>1525247
>Now we know why ESL shill has been pissy lately
Doubt it, it's more likely related to all the Ukrainian deep strikes in the past months, with Russia unable to do anything about it until mobilization in autumn
>>
>>1525774
How much credibility does Ukraine have in their ability to restore 2014 borders and stop Russia from devouring 20% of their country?
>>
>how much credibility does a bunch of losers that worship a bunch of failures have 81 years after WWII?
1525812
How much credibility do Putin glazers in /news/ have?
>>
>>1525774
Don't forget about Germans spreading "why die for Danzig?" propaganda in the west.
>>
>>1525812
depends on a lot of factors really.
Russia is clearly on a trajectory of decline, but unlike NAFO shills on twitter would like you to believe, it's probably gonna take a few more centuries until it could realistically cause an implosion of the country and all else being equal by then the Russian settler colonialism in the 5 occupied regions would have progressed a lot further.
So I think the question is, for how long Ukraine will be able to keep up their mid-range strike campaign that, at the moment, has basically cut off most supply lines to Crimea. If they are able to maintain and expand this, I'd be cautiously optimistic that liberation of at least parts of the country is possible.
The other question is what Russia will do with their mobilization in autumn. Will they just be thrown into the frontline as a stopgap, or will they actually build up a reserve? What's the equipment situation like?
Then there are more long term considerations like what effect Ukrainian long range strikes and crippling of the Russian economy will have or what western support will look like in the future, with Trump dismantling the US empire and many important EU countries trending more and more towards pro-Putin populist parties
>>
>>1525884
>or what western support will look like in the future
Zelenskyy will be supplying advanced drones to UK. They've been proven to work in actual battle conditions, just as Storm Shadow missiles from UK to Ukraine have proven they work when used against Ivans.
>>
>>1525885
Oh true wanted to mention that aswell and it slipped my mind.
Ukraine being able to produce much of its long range munitions themselves is a really good development because now they don't have to follow silly restrictions. Remember how in 2022 it was almost controversial that they flew two Hinds into Russia to attack a fuel depot, or how later Russia could build up troops just over the border to attack Kharkiv and Ukraine wasn't "allowed" to fire at those formations? Seems almost absurd now.
But money is on of their bottlenecks, I haven't checked since the latest EU financial support package but at least up until recently Ukraine still couldn't run its military industrial complex at full efficiency due to lack of funds, but if they manage to find more buyers for their stuff I imagine they can cross finance more production for domestic requirements.
Nontheless I think some dependence on outside funding will remain.
>>
>>1525884
If that's the timetable you are working with I agree. In a few more centuries Ukraine could regain her initial borders. That's probably an accurate timeline for when north and South Korea will reunify too
>>
>>1525919
>>1525884
>centuries
mistyped, I actually meant to say decades, but even then that's quite a long time
>>1525919
Then again on those kinds of scales I'm not sure it's even useful to make any predictions, especially considering we're currently in a bit of transitional period where the world is changing a lot.
And as I mentioned with those kinds of timescales the whole thing about Russian settlers becomes a bit tricky. Like how much time has to pass until it becomes ethically problematic or hard to justify to displace people (or threaten displacement or whatever else you might want to do). Obviously if Ukraine magically regained all of its territory today it's probably fair game to tell everyone who lives there integrate into Ukrainian society or leave. But if Finland magically regained Viipuri, for example, I'd say it's at the very least problematic to ethnically cleanse it of Russians (most of whom would consider themselves native to the city) just because it used to be part of Finland not too long ago.
It's a really messy situation and if anything I'm a bit frustrated that our western governments fumbled it all so badly. Looking at you Scholz and Biden, to name a few.



[Advertise on 4chan]

Delete Post: [File Only] Style:
[Disable Mobile View / Use Desktop Site]

[Enable Mobile View / Use Mobile Site]

All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.