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WASHINGTON (AP) — A Senate committee voted along party lines Thursday to hold Dr. Anthony Fauci in contempt of Congress over his refusal to answer questions at a hearing on his handling of the COVID-19 pandemic, setting up a referral to the Department of Justice for potential investigation over whether the country’s longtime top infectious disease official properly exercised his constitutional rights.

The vote approving the contempt resolution came a week after Fauci invoked his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination more than 100 times when he appeared before the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, an episode that raised fresh legal questions about the ability of Congress to compel testimony from a previously pardoned witness.

Republican Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky, the committee chairman who pressed for the contempt finding, said that constitutional protection did not apply because Fauci last year received a pardon from Democratic President Joe Biden and thus did not have to worry about the threat of prosecution. He has said he intends to send the referral directly to the Justice Department, rather than first to the full Senate, despite Democratic questions over the legal validity of such a maneuver.

“Dr. Fauci faced no risk of federal prosecution,” Paul said at the outset of Thursday’s hearing. “All he had to do was tell the truth.”

“Let’s just get one thing straight,” Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) warned Fauci when his turn came to grill the 85-year-old doctor. “You don’t have any rights under the Fifth Amendment because you’ve been pardoned, as you very well know, as the Supreme Court has been clear for a century and more. Brown vs. Walker, 1896, ‘When he has been pardoned, he may not stand upon his privilege.'”
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>>1527841
Fauci will be found guilty of cutting a 300 foot long gash in the reflecting pool.
They have him on camera, his 5th amendment claims mean nothing
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>>1527841
Good. Maybe a day or two in jail will make him talk.
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>>1527841
Dr. Fauxci can’t Plead the 5th anymore, now can he?!?
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Why do chuds think Fauci did something wrong?
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>>1527846
Joe Bidens pardon goes back to 2014
Has Biden or Fauci ever acknowledged why?
Dr Rand Paul says that is the year the NIH started funding the lab in Wuhan.
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>>1527846
See >>1527271
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>>1527841
"I ain't doing shit" - DOJ (For the third time now IIRC)
"WELL WE TRIED Vote for us in November niggercattle LOL" - GOP reps who voted to indite

"I guess there's nothing I can do" - Winner of the 100th consecutive Fell For It Again Award collective miggercattle.
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>>1527849
I mean this is obviously bullshit. The entire summer of love was very clearly a US Government op. That doesn't change the fact that hte person who ordered Fauci to lie about the whole thing was DJT.
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>>1527851
>That doesn't change the fact that hte person who ordered Fauci to lie about the whole thing was DJT.
For what conceivable reason
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>>1527851
>summer of love
That happened in 1969. I think you really mean the Boogaloo Riots of 2020.
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>>1527846
Because Trump fucked up covid and they need someone to blame.
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>>1527856
Trump fucked up major on his lawsuit against the BBC and was just handed a big loss there.
He's losing big in Iran
He's lost all his other vanity court cases against Comey, the Reflecting pool people, the Kennedy Center
He fucked up the world cup
His tariffs got fucked up

Orange faggot needs to start prosecuting pedophiles, maybe he can get a win if he turns himself in
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>>1527857
>He fucked up the world cup
How?
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>>1527857
Whataboutism
This thread is about Fauci being criminally charged with contempt of Congress
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>>1527861
you're right, this whole sham trial is whataboutism to cover up trump's various high crimes
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>>1527841
These charges quite literally can't go anywhere. You cannot persecute someone for pleading the fifth. That's literally the whole point of the fifth.
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>>1527888
You cannot incriminate yourself for something you have been pardoned for.
You cannot stand on privilege if you've been pardoned. Josh Hawley and Rand Paul explain this while asking Fauci questions
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>>1527890
you're literally not american
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Non sequitur
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>>1527890
>You cannot incriminate yourself for something you have been pardoned for.
If he was pardoned for it, he not only still has 5th amendment rights, but you couldn't charge him even if he didn't waive and incriminated himself.

>You cannot stand on privilege if you've been pardoned.
But you can plead the fifth.
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>>1527841
lol oops
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>>1527891
>Called out on his crazy manic use of 'esl shill the lunatic faggot switches over to his other spam phrase
Why even post you queer incel?
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>>1527890
>You cannot stand on privilege if you've been pardoned.
So Bidens pardons are legitimate?
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>>1527917
why even get upset by the truth
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>>1527919
god you're esl
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i love when esl shill has no recourse but to start imitating me
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>>1527918
Probably as legitimate as Trump's will be when he pardons himself, and his entire family. Which I wouldn't blame him for since lawfare is all the Demolosers know aside from scamming idiots into voting for their shitty trash party.
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>>1527923
You contribute nothing to any conversation on this board. Kill yourself slowly and painfully you utter faggot.
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>>1527926
Projection.
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>>1527927
take a few deep breaths esl shill
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>>1527841
Trump really is dumb enough to punish Fauci harder than anyone from the Epstein files ever got punished right before the election
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>>1527841
The fifth amendment needs to be repealed. Fauci knows what laws he broke and by confessing he is laughing at every red blooded American who died for our freedoms against Iran. It is not the job of RFK jr to provide evidence when Fauci is the evidence.
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>Dr. Fauci faced no risk of federal prosecution
Setting aside the fact that Trump has openly declared that Joe Biden's pardons were null and void and this administration has repeatedly brought bullshit charges against political scapegoats.

Also, "federal" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there when the governments of multiple *states* have opened criminal investigations into him or vowed to do so.

Honestly I hope this shit goes to trial. I wanna see these jackasses get blown out in court again.
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>>1527933
>The fifth amendment needs to be repealed.
So Trump goes to prison for the 450 times he invoked it?

Even leaving that aside, making it legal to force people to incriminate themselves is retarded
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*yawn* another nothing burger lawfare suit that’s going to get tossed
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>>1527902
he can't plead the fifth when no matter what he says can't be held against him criminally because he's been retroactively pardoned for it.
that's literally what Brown V walker was about so there's already precedence.
>But you can plead the fifth.
no he can't thats the whole point, the biden pardon comes with the downside of because he has statuary immunity he can't plead the fifth because the risk of self incrimination no longer exists.
He won't be charged over anything he says but they can literally force him to answer them and utterly ruin his reputation.
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>>1527946
What have you been led to believe he's going to say which will supposedly ruin his regulation?
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>>1527902
>If he was pardoned for it, he not only still has 5th amendment rights,
do you understand what the fifth amendement even is? it's not a right to remain silence it's a right against self incrimination.
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>>1527948
whatever he's refusing to answer, and whatever way it's going to be spun.
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>>1527946
Good post
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>>1527948
If you haven't done anything wrong then you have nothing to hide. Right?
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>>1527949
god you're esl
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>>1527946
>that's literally what Brown V walker was about so there's already precedence
Brown v Walker involved federal AND STATE immunity. Fauci only has federal immunity.

There is no precedence that someone immunized for federal crimes can be compelled to offer testimony that could then be used against them in state courts or vice versa.

Also, he doesn't have statutory immunity. A pardon does not confer statutory immunity. Statutory immunity is immunity derived from a court order compelling testimony and is binding on both state and federal jurisdictions. A pardon is not the same fucking thing.

In summary, shut your whore mouth you lying fuckwit.

>>1527951
It wasn't.
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>>1527954
>There is no precedence that someone immunized for federal crimes can be compelled to offer testimony that could then be used against them in state courts or vice versa.
That's not what is happening.
He was subpoenaed to appear before Congress and refused to answer questioning. That's why he's being charged.
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>>1527955
He pleaded the 5th. He has that right until and unless he is granted statutory immunity, ass-hat. And they're absolutely fishing for an excuse to lock his ass up.
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>>1527955
>He was subpoenaed to appear before Congress and refused to answer questioning.
Which is a right granted by the 5th amendment. This entire contempt charge literally cannot go anywhere because you cannot be prosecuted for invoking the 5th.
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>>1527841
Trump plead the fifth like five hundred times and they didn't do shit to him.
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>>1527956
>>1527957
>He pleaded the 5th.
>Which is a right granted by the 5th amendment.
He isn't being forced to incriminate himself. He has already willingly incriminated himself by refusing to answer questions.
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>>1527959
you willingly humiliate yourself instead of getting a real job
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>>1527959
>He has already willingly incriminated himself by refusing to answer questions.
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>>1527962
Yeah that's what contempt of congress is.
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>>1527963
you're in contempt of your mother
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>>1527964
Is your inability to use capitalization a reflection of your status as a manlet?
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>>1527841
I have a feeling Fauci is being offered up as a sacrificial lamb. If the current admin sets the precedent that you can be prosecuted for invoking the 5th ammendment after being pardoned, it opens the door for when the entire Trump admin gets blanket pardoned and also pleads the fifth when they get tried for their numerous crimes by the next admin. I'd say its worth it.
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>>1527936
So far the arguments against this seem to be Bidens pardons were done by auto pen and don't count so Fauci can plead the fifth as normal.
>>1527954
And the other is that unless he gets state immunity from all 50 states he doesn't actually have immunity


Shit Fauci might actually be charged and convicted. All his defences are grasping at straws
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>>1527954
anon i get you're slow but if they did charge him with criminal malpractice endangering all of america that wouldn't be a state charge.
>>1527953
god you're subhuman
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>>1527966
Don't you find it weird when your predictions don't come true and then actually come true for the other side?
Like I was told Trump would pardon his family members but he didn't. And I was told repeatedly that Biden wouldn't pardon his family members and then he did.
It's like you keep predicting the opposite of reality but you never acknowledge you're wrong
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>>1527967
congress is literally saying right now that because biden's pardon is supposedly in effect he cannot plead the fifth because he can't self-incriminate due to that retroactive pardon.
He's being forced to speak because of that pardon. they aren't even trying to claim biden's pardon is autopenned they're just using the existence of it as a means to force him to talk.
>And the other is that unless he gets state immunity from all 50 states he doesn't actually have immunity
please just fucking kill yourself for this ridiculous statement. Please tell the class how Fauci would be getting a state charge for a role he played as the government's chief medical advisory.
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>>1527963
He appeared before Congress. He invoked his right to not incriminate himself when he did so. You can't lock someone up for refusing to give testimony that could be used to lock them up. Invoking the 5th isn't incriminating, nor is it something you can charge someone with contempt for.

Congress can get a court order immunity for his testimony that confers immunity that applies in state and federal court or it can fuck off. Until then, his testimony can be used against him, so he has a 5th Amendment right to shut the fuck up.

>>1527967
>And the other is that unless he gets state immunity from all 50 states he doesn't actually have immunity
Yes. That is a normal part of the legal process. It's used literally all the fucking time. It's called statutory immunity and it's obtained via court order. Fauci doesn't need immunity agreements with all 50 states. He just needs someone to compel his testimony with the understanding that nothing he says can be used against him.

This is a daily occurrence in courts across the country. If he's a suspect, he can shut the fuck up. If he's a witness giving compelled testimony for matters that won't be used against him, they can get that put in writing through a judge.
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>>1527969
Anon, I get you're slow, but the existence of federal charges does not preclude the existence of state charges.
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>>1527971
>Please tell the class how Fauci would be getting a state charge for a role he played as the government's chief medical advisory.

>https://louisianaradionetwork.com/2026/08/03/47626/
>Attorney General Liz Murrill says Louisiana will join Florida and Alabama in investigating Dr. Anthony Fauci to see whether he could be brought up on state charges.
It's very simple. Republican AGs are crooked.
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>>1527972
>You can't lock someone up for refusing to give testimony that could be used to lock them up.
he can't self-incriminate when all of his actions since 2014 have been retroactively pardoned anon.
that's why they bought up Brown vs. Walker.

He's literally lost the right to remain silence because that's inherently tied to self-incrimination which he cannot.
>so he has a 5th Amendment right to shut the fuck up.
are you fucking stupid? how do you self-incriminate for things that have a 10year retroactive pardon which is the timeline they're asking him questions about.
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>>1527970
>Like I was told Trump would pardon his family members but he didn't.
He literally got the DoJ to drop all tax investigations into his family and vow not to pursue any charges against them for past conduct.

Also, he did pardon Kushner's dad.
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>>1527972
>You can't lock someone up for refusing to give testimony that could be used to lock them up.
He's not being charged based on the testimony he hasn't revealed. He's being charged because he hasn't given any testimony at all.
Also, this guy still has a blanket pardon. He can't be incriminated for anything he says.
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>>1527975
>he can't self-incriminate when all of his actions since 2014 have been retroactively pardoned anon.
>that's why they bought up Brown vs. Walker.
What part of state charges don't you understand. Brown v Walker involved federal AND STATE immunity. You keep repeating the same bullshit while ignoring Fauci doesn't have full immunity.
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>>1527973
Ahh yes because actions he does as a government employee is going to be individually charged in 52 states aka rendering the point of having federal charges moot. ya ur a fucking retard who doesn't understand what a state charge is how do you have a fucking STATE charge for a role he played as a federal government employee on a countrywide mandate.

>>1527974
ahh yes bought up state charges without any actual charges. that's definitely going to work out for them. what are they going to charge him with handing poisoned lolipops to kids or illegal parking?
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>>1527978
god you're such a retard he can't be fucking charged in individual states for his actions as a federal government employee. I get you're retarded but maybe you should try harder.
Name me what fucking charge he could possibly be given on a state level
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>>1527977
>He's not being charged based on the testimony he hasn't revealed. He's being charged because he hasn't given any testimony at all.
Which is a violation of his 5th Amendment right against self-incrimination. Also, learn2read.

>Also, this guy still has a blanket pardon
He has a pardon for federal crimes relating to his time in office, not for state crimes. Also you don't know what a blanket pardon is.
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>>1527981
they're questioning him about his role as a fucking federal employee you dipshit retard. God you're fucking stupid.
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>>1527981
>Also, learn2read.
Goddamn you are slow.
His fifth amendment rights have nothing to do with the contempt charge. Refusing to answer questions is a separate crime from anything he could've admitted under oath.
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>>1527979
>how do you have a fucking STATE charge for a role he played as a federal government employee on a countrywide mandate
First of all, the CDC is based in Alabama. Second of all, states just need some action that establishes jurisdiction, which isn't difficult for nationwide shit. Third of all, states and the feds have plenty of overlapping laws, dipshit.

>aka rendering the point of having federal charges moot
We're a republic. The state and federal legal systems coexist. One doesn't moot the other in much the same way that no state moots the laws of the other states. If someone got a pardon from one governor for being part of a multi-state criminal conspiracy, you understand they still couldn't be compelled to testify on that alone because they could be prosecuted in the other involved states, right? This is why statutory immunity through a judge is a thing. You want to compel testimony, you make it so you can't use anything a person says against them anywhere.

>>1527979
>that's definitely going to work out for them
About as well as this contempt referral will.
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>>1527970
>And I was told repeatedly that Biden wouldn't pardon his family members and then he did.
Im not sure who told you this anon, seems more likely you made it up in your head that people told you this only to confirm your own bias.
>Like I was told Trump would pardon his family members but he didn't.
His terms not over yet. Expect blanket pardons for not only his family but ever single crook in his admin. And when he does, I can gurantee youll be the first to go "B-BUT BIDEN..."
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>>1527980
>god you're such a retard he can't be fucking charged in individual states for his actions as a federal government employee

>Name me what fucking charge he could possibly be given on a state level
Official misconduct in Florida.
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>>1527982
>they're questioning him about his role as a fucking federal employee you dipshit retard. God you're fucking stupid.
Being a federal employee doesn't mean you can't be charged in state court. If he took a bribe, Alabama could still lock his ass up for that.

Do you seriously not understand that state laws apply to federal employees?
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>>1527983
>Refusing to answer questions is a separate crime from anything he could've admitted under oath.
Prosecuting someone for something they could have admitted under oath but didn't isn't a violation of their 5th Amendment rights. Seriously, what the fuck do you think the 5th Amendment is?
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>>1527846
Look I am as liberal as you can be, but even I can admit the whole inability for the Feds and the WHO to directly blame the CCP bioweapon program is criminal.
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>>1527860
Tried to get Infantino to sell the world cup to Kushner and ruined FIFAs reputation
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>>1527860
>>1528006
That, the whole scandal with him straight up bragging about getting a red card suspended when that quite literally never happens, plus he also just stood on the field refusing to leave the final winning team photo and they literally had to edit him out.
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>>1527983
>His fifth amendment rights have nothing to do with the contempt charge. Refusing to answer questions is a separate crime from anything he could've admitted under oath.
Refusing to answer questions is a right guaranteed by the 5th amendment you retard.
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>>1528004
Literally the only part of the US government that thinks it's a Chinese lab leak is the CIA (allegedly) and given that they got caught spreading disinfo about the safety/efficacy of Chinese COVID vaccines in the Philippines to smear China, you'll forgive me if I defer to the entire rest of the federal government.
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>>1528006
>ruined FIFAs reputation
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>1528012
>FIFA openly sucked his dick by giving him that universally mocked "FIFA Peace Prize" as a shiny pair of keys to stop him from fucking with things
>FIFA then got accused of open corruption because he bragged about making them remove a red card against the US' star player, something that never happens that fast and was seen as a wrong call
>After the World Cup, there's now an active boycott against FIFA by the entire European league for Infantino trying to privatize the World Cup by selling stakes to private companies, with one of those companies being headed by Trump's son in law
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>>1527942
>>1527958
Do you guys have the footage of Trump pleading the fifth hundreds of times while testifying before Congress?
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>>1527976
On the last day of Donald Trump's first term, January 20th 2021, the number of family members he pardoned was zero
On the last day of Joe Bidens term I know of at least 2 family members he pardoned.
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>>1528043
Did you not see Trump plead the fifth during his recent fraud trial?
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>>1528044
That was then, this is now. Trump's literally actively making the heads of the IRS and DOJ to give him and his family immunity to being taxed.
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>>1528044
Do you have any idea how many crimes Trump and his cronies have committed compared to the ones Biden and his cronies were only accused of without proof? It's like the difference between a speeding ticket (for Biden) vs. first degree murder (for Trump).
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>>1527985
>Im not sure who told you this anon, seems more likely you made it up in your head that people told you this only to confirm your own bias.
https://youtu.be/WYJu-K_4224
https://youtu.be/4EpUpC9fCSg
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>>1528048
It's really funny you think this is some sort of gotcha. Do you even watch the news? Do you know what Trump is accused of?
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>>1528043
Why do you think Fauci pleaded the fifth so many times? What is it you think he's hiding?
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>>1528049
Do you really think I made it up in my head? The pledge that Joe Biden wouldn't pardon his son Hunter?
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>>1528049
he's just here to perform his shill script, i doubt he knows what his posts even mean
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>>1528050
I think it has something to do with the pardon date
The pardon doesn't go back to 2020 when the Pandemic started, it goes back to 2014. I think Joe Biden and Anthony Fauci know why the pardon goes back that far but they're not telling us.
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>>1528056
>I think Joe Biden and Anthony Fauci know why the pardon goes back that far but they're not telling us.
Because Trump and company literally vowed to politically witch hunt him for anything relating to the lab in wuhan that STILL has no confirmation of being the source of the virus?
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Nothing will come of this as Fauci has every right to plead the 5th.
His pardon only covers federal crimes and not state crimes
He has a fear of vindictive prosecution and his past statements over 30 years being used against him
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>>1528066
We have no evidence of natural transmission either. There's still no patient zero for animal to human transmission with COVID 19
Is there no evidence because it never existed or because it was covered up?
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>>1528070
>We have no evidence of natural transmission either.
Because the most likely point of origins is a fucking wet market. The "patient zero" got eaten by a random chinese man. Meanwhile we've examined COVID and found multiple similarities to existing strains in the area and nowhere near optimized enough to be the product of manipulation.
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>>1528047
My side is being accused without proof
We are just speeding
The other side are actually guilty
Guilty of murder
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>>1528066
Link? I never saw Trump literally vow to politically witch hunt Fauci for anything related to the lab in Wuhan
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>>1528115
Everyone else in his circle did, especially Rand Paul who is literally doing it right now despite the pardon by repeatedly trying to perjury trap him.
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Goal post status:moved
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>>1528009
>Refusing to answer questions is a right guaranteed by the 5th amendment
He had a choice not to incriminate himself by obeying the subpoena.
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>>1528149
you must love your nickname



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