wow, another executive order that will get shot down

>NYPost
A reminder this is a fake news, and not creditable news site that shouldn't be allowed on /news/ because they were caught smearing Mamdani over 9/11 and instead of retracting the story and apologizing for their false reporting, they are now doubling down.
https://hiphopwired.com/3061256/ny-post-dragged-for-alleged-mamdani-9-11-story/

And the corporate media is running a cover up for them as well too.
https://popular.info/p/update-after-the-mamdani-911-smear

>>1527871
No one cares. Every news outlet has posted fake news. CNN, Huffpost, and Washingtonpost have all been caught editing footage and sound clips.

>>1527880
You know the NYpost is a tabloid, right? The outlets you mentioned are not.

>>1527880
>No one cares
The expected cope of an election tourist caught posting a fake news outlet, the NYpost, on /news/.

>>1527867
>anything Trump signs automatically becomes law!
How are there people this stupid?

>>1527881
Also, most news outlets issue retractions, they don't try to manufacture evidence to back up their initial lies like the NYpost is doing.
Also Fox News and CBS should also be implicated in this as well.

>>1527881
Is whitehouse.gov a tabloid too?

>>1527883
they read the NY Post, they're already that stupid

>>1527893
Do you know what the word 'tabloid' means? It doesn't seem like you do.

>>1527895
Seeing as the information in NYPost matches the information in whitehouse.gov - and seeing as you couldn't answer my question - it would appear that the information matches and is accurate. Now do you have anything to say about the actual story or do you want to keep quibbling over muh source?

>>1527897
esl shill, you know we're here to point at laugh at you right

>>1527897
>The Post has been criticized since the beginning of Murdoch's ownership for sensationalism, blatant advocacy, and conservative bias. In 1980, the Columbia Journalism Review stated that the "New York Post is no longer merely a journalistic problem. It is a social problem—a force for evil."[8] The Post has been accused of contorting its news coverage to suit Murdoch's business needs, in particular avoiding subjects which could be unflattering to the government of the People's Republic of China, where Murdoch has invested heavily in satellite television.[64]

>In a 2019 article in The New Yorker, Ken Auletta wrote that Murdoch "doesn't hesitate to use the Post to belittle his business opponents", and went on to say that Murdoch's support for Edward I. Koch while he was running for mayor of New York "spilled over onto the news pages of the Post, with the paper regularly publishing glowing stories about Koch and sometimes savage accounts of his four primary opponents."[65]

>>1527867
Another EO that'll get striked down immediately for the same reason as the last. Birthright Citizenship is black and white constitutional law. Either amend the constitution or fuck off.

>>1527899
Don't care. Talk about the EO.

>>1527903
i sure am glad i'm not you

>>1527904
I'm looking forward to the day when America starts adopting the strict immigration laws that Poland has.

>>1527907
that's great, but you're still not american

>>1527898
>>1527901
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh
this is you you domestic terrorist.

esl shill is so dumb i almost feel bad for laughing at him

>>1527907
Get a supermajority and amend the constitution then. You won't.

>>1527912
Probably not. The islamification of America will continue so long as leftists have political power.

>>1527867
I’m glad that Trump rules by executive order. As POTUS he should be allowed to do whatever he wants. Activist judges who quote the law and legal precedent need to be declared enemies of the state

>>1527912
Seeing as illegals don't have constitutional rights, that's not necessary.
>inb4 nuh uh!!!!
Can illegals purchase firearms?

>>1527938
>Seeing as illegals don't have constitutional rights, that's not necessary.
But people born on US soil aren't illegals.

>>1527867
>Is told multiple times, including by Supreme Court decision, that it's unconstitutional
>Does it anyway because executive orders are magic
Retard.

>>1527961
Birth Tourism ending has NOTHING to do with your precious Birthright Citizenship abomination. This is COMPLETELY different.

>>1527938
Yes they do, and we're not talking about illegals.

The wording in this makes legislatures who take AIPAC money lose their citizenship. Hmm, should they not be eligible for office.

ROFL

Birth tourism was already illegal by statute. This EO does fuck all.

>>1527989
It's really not.
>If born in US, child is automatically a US citizen
Don't like it, try to pull together two thirds of congress to amend it.

>>1528000
No it isn't. What statute?
>Birth tourism itself is not a crime under US law. However, obtaining a US visitor visa for the primary purpose of giving birth in the United States is a direct violation of visa regulations — and that is where the legal line is crossed.

>>1527867
Not sure how other presidents could compare to Trump when he can spend his whole presidency shitting out EO's that sound so retarded everyone with half a brain knows they'll get struck down instantly. But thats more than enough for MAGA, just with Trump simply signing something its like he saved the world 10 times over, wether it actually does anything is completely irrelevant.

>>1528031
I mean he realized he can just declare he ended the Iran war once a week and have everyone praise him as a saint of peace.

>>1528031
These very same people endlessly bitched at Obama for 'ruling by EO'.

>>1528031
It reminds me of when Obama lost his majority and told people he had a pen and a phone he planned on using
Trump is great at using a pen and a phone too
https://www.law.georgetown.edu/georgetown-law-journal/submit/glj-online/103-online/a-pen-a-phone-and-the-u-s-code/

>>1527867
>The order bars citizenship for children born to mothers who enter the United States for the sole purpose of having a child on American soil.
It won't even reach a court to get shot down. You'd have to prove that having a kid here is the sole purpose of their trip and visiting friends or family or just general tourism was not involved in their decision at any level.

>tRump said the executive order would stop wealthy people from “buying their way” into citizenship with pregnant women traveling to the US to birth an American baby.


somebody added the qualifier, "wealthy", to prevent all 9 month pregnant women from visiting the United States.

I'm sure the Republicans want 9 months wealthy pregnant women to visit the United States no matter what their color.

>>1528060
You misheard Voodoo Barry. He said he had a hen and a bone.

>>1528000
So, no legal challenges expected. Nothingburger news?

>>1528031
You do know that Kavanaugh keeps setting legal precedents in his ruling, right?
There's doing nothing, and there's creating a path.
And a path is being created for positive change.

>>1528198
No legal precedents overrides the constitution. These EOs will continue to die.

>>1528017
>What statute?
>18 U.S. Code § 1546 - Fraud and misuse of visas, permits, and other documents
Birth tourism, that is to say obtaining a tourist visa and using it with the primary purpose of coming to the US to give birth, is a direct violation of this statute. You're giving false information as to the reason for your coming to the US, and then misusing the visa you attain through that false attestation to gain entry for an illicit purpose.

The crime isn't called birth tourism, nor is birth tourism the only way the crime can be committed, but birth tourism contains all the elements of the crime.

>>1528196
The birth tourism part is a nothingburger. The EO also technically contains some unconstitutional bullshit about not granting citizenship to the children of enemies of the state if they're born in the USA, but I'm not sure anyone will even have standing to get that shit before a judge before the next president reverses this nonsense.

>>1528204
Interesting, but not true.

>>1528277
>18 U.S. Code § 1546
>ctrl + f "birth"
>phrase not found
Can you point to the part in this law that says birth tourism is illegal? And not the part I already quoted earlier here
>Birth tourism itself is not a crime under US law. However, obtaining a US visitor visa for the primary purpose of giving birth in the United States is a direct violation of visa regulations — and that is where the legal line is crossed.

>>1528306
No, true. There is nothing Kavanaugh can do since the plain tacks is that birthright citizenship is a constitutional right. If anything the "legal precedent" he's trying to build will get shut down if it tries to point towards that, because the constitution overrides judicial ruling. And the constitution is so clear on this even Kavanaugh himself admits it.

>>1528308
>Can you point to the part in this law that says birth tourism is illegal?
The part where it says acts required to commit birth tourism are illegal. Can you define birth tourism in a way where it doesn't violate that criminal statute?

>>1528347
>The part where it says acts required to commit birth tourism are illegal.
Which it doesn't say anywhere in code 1546. Can you quote where it does?

>>1528358
NTA, but here you go:
https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-22/chapter-I/subchapter-E/part-41
Get reading you, Sealioning fucking turbofaggot.

>>1528358
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1546
It's visa fraud, btw, faggot.

>>1528366
>>1528367
I didn't ask if visa fraud was a crime. I asked if you could point out where it says birth tourism is a crime. Spoiler alert: it doesn't, because birth tourism isn't a crime.

>>1528373
It's visa fraud you stupid fucking, bitch.
Visa fraud is a crime, and I'm not the person you were sealioning with your horseshit.
If you wan laws cited it's there.
Title 22 Chapter 1e 41.31b2i:
>The term pleasure, as used in INA 101(a)(15)(B) for the purpose of visa issuance, refers to legitimate activities of a recreational character, including tourism, amusement, visits with friends or relatives, rest, medical treatment, and activities of a fraternal, social, or service nature,
>> and does not include obtaining a visa for the primary purpose of obtaining U.S. citizenship for a child by giving birth in the United States.
Title 18 U.S. Code 1546:combined with 28 U.S. Code 1746 prohibit birth tourism.
This is the problem with being a fagwitted armchair dildo sucking lawfaggot on a Belarusian faggot hanging website.

>>1528373
Oh shit, BTFO'd. lol. Liggerals really are stupid jerks.

>>1528358
>Can't define birth tourism in a way that doesn't conflict with the law.
I accept your concession.

>>1528373
If it is a form of Visa Fraud, and Visa fraud is a crime....
You should be able to solve this.

>>1528375
>medical treatment
So coming to the US to have a kid is valid because birthing is a medical treatment and people are allowed to come to the US for medical tourism
ESL shill self BTFO again