>>1528024
me on the left

>>1528039
Republicans have been joocing the numbers.

where is the "cat in every pot" that was promised my people when they emigrated to the promised land?

>>1528067
Yeah and every month they are revised lower.

>>1528024
Obama did this

>>1528133
Clinton, actually.

>>1528024
>another indication that fewer Americans were working or looking for jobs.
Isn't this a good thing?

>>1528144
No because the employment numbers didn't go up either, meaning they're just adrift.

>>1528144
No. A bug chunk are people retiring and it looks like instead of hiring younger replacements, the smart thing to do, employers are not replacing these jobs or are out-sourcing to India.

The other big chunk of these people are discouraged workers who have given up trying to find work. This is also not a good thing for your economy since these people are of working age and could be generating income and tax revenue for their communities.

Shit is cooked. Badly. Panic.

>>1528144
It’s a good thing if you want to see America decline, yes

>>1528147
...OK, but less people looking for jobs means prosperity, retirement or welfare. Since the US no longer has welfare and I don't believe retired individuals are counted, it must mean prosperity.
And unemployment is at 4.1% called a "slip" in the article, but it's down from 4.3% which makes it pretty much flat over the past 3 years.
Keep in mind, labor force participation measures nothing really, whereas unemployment measures people seeking work who aren't currently employed.
>>1528253
Well, maybe if we had jobs worth working and workplaces not filled with karens and faggots people would work.
Right now, what's the point in making this shithole succeed when everyone else is simply interested in extracting value from workers?

>>1528319
>...OK, but less people looking for jobs means prosperity, retirement or welfare.
Or, hear me out, people literally cannot find jobs and are giving up, living with their parents and coasting off their savings because they literally cannot find anywhere to work.

If what you said is true the employment numbers would be up. They aren't.

>>1528134
Sorry it was actually Hunter Biden's penis acting on its own.

Meanwhile in a non far right fascist country.
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/canada-posts-monster-jobs-gain-july-unemployment-rate-hits-two-year-low-2026-08-07/

>>1528321
Where do I begin with this 40 IQ post? You know what? I don't even care.

>>1528361
The odd part here is that OP and (You) think these numbers are terrible for Trump.
Here's Reuters celebrating this massive win!!!
>Average hourly wages of permanent employees grow 3.0% in July,
>The jobless rate fell for the third consecutive month, dipping from 6.5% to 6.4%, a level last seen in July 2024.
6.4%? Excellent...

>>1528321
its the deportations you retard

>>1528370
>>Average hourly wages of permanent employees grow 3.0% in July,
Bring that back retard. Say the rest of the sentence with me now
>While jobs held flat, worker pay also saw virtually no gain during the month. Average hourly earnings increased by just 2 cents, bringing the 12-month average down to 3.2%, below the forecast increase of 3.5% and the lowest since May 2021.

>6.4%? Excellent...
I'm genuinely unsure where you're getting this number from.

>>1528024
Why are the jews so happy in the op photo? Why does Stephen Miller have a hunch back?

>>1528372
Let's assume this is true; you recognize this is a bad thing, right? Like this is historically a bad thing; immigrants usually fill jobs the native population doesn't have much interest in, at least in current times. They help to stem the flow of aging out workers in those positions (who themselves tend to consist of older immigrants) to keep those industries with an actual workforce. Without them, you wind up in a Japan situation where the older generation ages out and retires, but there's not enough people from the newer ones experienced enough to replace the old, leading to even worse economical issues.

>>1528394
He is also a jew. Look up the videos of him in high school giving speeches about how he should be allowed to litter since the school has janitors they pay to clean up after them. Very entitled with a touch of psychotic.

The more I learn about Miller the clearer it becomes that he is calling the shots right now and is responsible for much of the nonsense we're currently experiencing.

>>1528395
I thought that the native population doesn't want to do those jobs at those wages. Id pick fruit. But not for national minimum wage it would be $15-20 an hour
I think good roofers should be paid $100 an hour but instead that have to deal with competition standing outside home depot working for cash and they only get $25 an hour. Historically immigrants drag down low skill wages, and stemming the flow of migrants labor causes wages to rise

>>1528405
>Historically immigrants drag down low skill wages, and stemming the flow of migrants labor causes wages to rise
Not really. California in the 19th century banned chinese immigrants because they felt like they were taking too many jobs for too cheap. They thought it would result in whites filling the places and overall wage growth.

It didn't. That shit literally kneecapped economic growth on the west coast for almost a century. They only started growing to get where they are today when the law got appealed. Surprisingly, it turns out that getting rid of immigrants doesn't result in natives filling the same jobs and wages going up; it results in businesses closing down because no one wants to work those jobs and they can't pay anyone more.

>>1528397
Is that a formal debate video? If so it's normal practice to take positions you don't support in debates. But overall, you're right, he's a jew. Jews being members of the most evil cult ever created.

>>1528405
Most H1B jobs pay well but CEO's want to pay slavery wages so they hire people from India.

>>1528395
>doesn't have much interest in
Because they don't pay enough. Because illegal immigrants work for pennies.

>>1528395
>leading to even worse economical issues.
For who?
And the "do the jobs americans don't want" shit is tired asf.
If no one wants those jobs, that forces people to begrudgingly do them for higher wages, if the jobs are essential.
And in modern times since at least 1988, we import h1-b visa workers to do the jobs Americans want to do, to keep wages down.
While importing h2-bs to do the labor Americans don't want to do (seasonal farm labor).
Why is this basic shit so difficult for liggerals to understand?

>>1528436
So we can fix this by just requiring companies to document and report labor payments so we can track these things?

ESL shill doesn't seem to understand that we're going to look at these problems with an eye to fix them, not as an excuse to enact whatever racist israeli psyop they've been contracted to shill

>>1528437
>>1528436
>If no one wants those jobs, that forces people to begrudgingly do them for higher wages, if the jobs are essential.
Yeah this doesn't work. Again, we literally had a test run of this idea during the Chinese Exclusion Act. No matter how "essential" people thought the jobs were, people just didn't do them. The pay wasn't there (and before you say "well they'll just boost wages", the money to do that wasn't there either) and what people were willing to do them were nowhere near as skilled and efficient as their immigrant counterparts because they had no experience and the people who would've taught them were the immigrants who got kicked out.

You can argue otherwise all you want, but we've got modern examples too; look at Japan, who combined a declining birthrate with hard anti-immigration and are currently facing a massive crisis where they have more demand for workers than they have workers.

>>1528438
>so we can track these things?
You're assuming that companies will bother to document illicit transactions.
Illegal immigration is downstream of demand for cheap labor. The only way to 'fix' that is to make the economy healthier.
>racist israeli psyop
You're like the inverse of a MAGA supporter that accuse anybody who is unhappy with datacenters as being a troon.

>>1528440
These are the same people who will also say that not all jobs deserve a living wage. They're not serious about what they say

>>1528443
>You're assuming that companies will bother to document illicit transactions.
So companies will do whatever they want, so we shouldn't bother policing them?

You're still a shitty shill pretending that ICE actions are essential so you can avoid inconveniencing the people who actually hire immigrants

>>1528445
>So companies will do whatever they want, so we shouldn't bother policing them?
Corporations aren't wizards from the Harry Potter universe. They can't make illegal immigrants appear out of nowhere, they need to be in the US first. Remove the immigrants, remove the source of labor, price of labor goes up.
>avoid inconveniencing the people who actually hire immigrants
They're breaking the law already, retard. Making more laws isn't the solution.
You're some sort of corporatist bootlicker. Trust the science, amirite fellow xisters?

1528446
>no, don't actually try to solve the problem
>just do racist project 2025 stuff
esl shill :(

>>1528395
I’m willing to suffer slightly worse economic outcomes if it means I don’t have to constantly look over my shoulder in case some ape tries to shank me or my kids over pocket change

esl shill, the immigrant who took your job wasn't a dei hire
they were a better qualified person replacing you because you're shit

>illegals aren't the problem, business owners are the problem, that's why we need more laws
>enforcing the laws that already exist is racist

>>1528448
>slightly worse economic outcomes
Oh buddy it's gonna be a lot more than just "slightly worse".

>>1528451
but republicunts don't want to enforce laws punishing companies for hiring illegals
they just want to deport illegals without finding out who was employing them
your solution always involves companies hiring illegals by design, because you're a shitty shill programmed to support the practice

>they just want to deport illegals without finding out who was employing them
You realize these are two separate crimes right
We can both deport the illegals and punish the employers breaking the law. But you're hyper-fixating on the employers and crying about racism.

>>1528455
>crying about racism.
They literally re-legalized racial profiling for ICE agents.

>>1528464
esl shill is the only one talking about racism

>>1528464
Racism is like being hungry.
You might not be hungry right now. But if a hamburger cuts you off in traffic you might have some opinions.

>>1528466
If a hamburger cuts you off in traffic you have a mental illness

>>1528455
>punish the employers
but you arent doing that though

>>1528393
>I'm genuinely unsure where you're getting this number from.
I quoted it from the fucking article in the post I replied to, retard.

>>1528445
>These are the same people who will also say that not all jobs deserve a living wage. They're not serious about what they say
Almost all jobs deserve a living wage. Forcing a minimum wage only causes inflation though.
So, are you confusing my disagreement with your, notably retarded, top down "solution" with a lack of advocacy for better pay?
Maybe this is why liggerals don't realize they're the bad guys?

>>1528502
>Almost all jobs deserve a living wage. Forcing a minimum wage only causes inflation though.
Way to admit the living wage has outpaced minimum wage by miles while also admitting "not that we should do anything about that lol"

>>1528503
You won he fight for $15 not too long ago.
How'd that work out, you good intentioned evil son of a bitch?

>>1528508
Federal minimum wage is $7.25, so a standard democrat victory to you, esl shill

>>1528509
And how does that affect your state minimum wage?
There are only a few states that sill use the fed min. In those states, everyone is housed and fed better than most blue states.
So is the federal minimum wage a problem, or do you just like causing problems by being ignorant, idiotic and bitchy?
>Everything's fine
>Let's pour ideological shit on everything to make it better.
Liggerals need education, and critical thinking skills. What will raising the federal minimum wage do? Cause inflation, as is evidenced by previous minimum wage increases.
Liggerals think you can just force better wages. The money isn't there. Look at the P&Ls, retard.

>>1528503
People deserve a life if they work hard

>>1528514
then why are you still here

>>1528509
I too enjoy my $20 McNugget meal. Thanks, Dummycraps.

>>1528512
>incoherent esl shill noises
you're actively becoming dumber
i hope we're contributing to your ongoing degeneration

>>1528519
Thanks to Trumpflation, trickle down economics and the endless wars.

>>1528502
As a job creator I should only pay what the market asks for. Biden’s economy has people willing to work for $5/hr but liggerals force me into a (fake) minimum wage so I have to raise prices if I want to keep flying first class

>>1528512
>There are only a few states that sill use the fed min. In those states, everyone is housed and fed better than most blue states.
You sure about that?

>>1528508
>How'd that work out, you good intentioned evil son of a bitch?
Much better than it did for the states that still use fucking $7 in this economy. You really wanna argue states like Alabama have a better quality of life than states like New Jersey or California?

Making $7.25 an hour literally puts you below the poverty line. You can't afford rent on that without having more than one job.

>>1528455
Typically the guy with a construction company or a farm (the kind of jobs Mexicans do) are lifelong republicans despite hiring day laborers most of the time

>>1528640
>L-look over t-there
>S-see, h-here's this thing I t-think you don't care about
>L-look at h-how b-bad y-you are!!
Execute all illegals, anyone who employs illegals.
Additionally execute every traitorous politician who expands h1-b visas, every employer who employs h1-Bs,
Does that satisfy you?
>No, I'm being a faggot!
I know.

>>1528645
You know it's illegal to threaten a sitting president.

>>1528646
Joe Biden isn't a sitting president

>>1528649
Trump is
>https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/trump-calls-h-1b-visas-necessary-bring-certain-talents-says-us-lacks-rcna243367

>>1528412
Didn't the Romans import a bunch of barbarians to work as laborers in 4th century? What ever happened there? Were Barbarians the strength of Rome?

>>1528660
>Romans import a bunch of barbarians to work as laborers
Yeah and it worked for literal centuries and gave them some of their greatest ages and figures. Flavius Aetius, last of the romans and the roman general who defeated Atilla the Hun, was literally descended from the "barbarians".

The irony is that Rome ultimately got sacked because they eventually started reneging on immigration deals and not paying the same barbarian armies they employed to remove the previous emperor. Of course, prior to that the empire was already reduced to a skeleton of its former self due to decades of economic failure and civil wars, which ironically also includes the very one that the same Barbarians that ultimately did the final sacking of Rome were brought into and then screwed out of payment for.

>>1528660
>Were Barbarians the strength of Rome?
With how many Roman armies were made up of either them or their descendants, for a while they were in the most literal sense actually.

>>1528667
>Flavius Aetius, last of the romans and the roman general who defeated Atilla the Hun, was literally descended from the "barbarians".
No.

He was born in modern day Bulgaria, which by that time had been part of the empire for ~400 years and he was from a family that had Roman citizenship for generations. He was just a normal Roman.

Historical illiteracy is the basis of your entire argument.

>>1528670
The visigoths were, but they didn't integrate and later turned against Rome.
History doesn't repeat, but it rhymes.

>>1528679
>He was born in modern day Bulgaria, which by that time had been part of the empire for ~400 years and he was from a family that had Roman citizenship for generations. He was just a normal Roman.
And what were they before that, anon?

>>1528686
>The visigoths were, but they didn't integrate and later turned against Rome.
They "didn't integrate" because the Eastern Romans literally vassalized them, used them as frontline troops against the West Romans, then basically left them out to dry after they took most of the casualties. And this was after a previous series of gothic rebellions because they got taxed to shit and treated as second class citizens.

The lesson is "Don't treat your vassals like pawns because they'll eventually decide they'd rather take over than fight your battles for you."

>>1528679
>Historical illiteracy is the basis of your entire argument.
Bold words from someone who standing by the claim that Rome fell because of an action the Western empire had been doing for over 400 years and the Eastern empire continued to do for 1000 more.

>>1528667
>Of course, prior to that the empire was already reduced to a skeleton of its former self due to decades of economic failure and civil wars,
Shouldn't have all the immigrants caused economic prosperity? Why did they keep experiencing economic failure and civil wars?