>>1530013
The Good Law Project, a campaign group that has supported Arday since the allegations first emerged, said Arday’s death was “a tragedy for him and those who loved him.”

The group’s executive director Jo Maugham said in a statement that people around Arday “had been warning the media that this was a risk.”

“I do not understand what the public interest was in continuing to hound him after he resigned as a professor and I do not understand what risk assessments media outlets did,” he added.

Lucy Powell, UK’s Secretary of State for Education, said she was “shocked and saddened” to hear about Arday’s death. “My heartfelt condolences are with his friends and family at this very sad time. I urge people to give them privacy through this incredibly difficult period (and) to remember there are real people with loved ones involved.”

Cambridge initially stood by Arday when questions about his qualifications were raised publicly by the British press and a one-time philosophy researcher who left the university after his critique of diversity, equity and inclusion programs.

The university said at the time that the plagiarism allegations had been investigated by Liverpool John Moores University, which awarded Arday’s doctorate.

The university later opened an investigation into “new information” about his academic qualifications, “following new information about Professor Arday’s qualifications and honorary appointments,” it said in a statement.

Earlier this week, the university said that Durham and Glasgow Universities were also investigating the circumstances surrounding Arday’s academic posts there.

>>1530013
Approximate value of losses:
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>>1530019
1 sassy buck.

>>1530013
>Cambridge initially stood by Arday when questions about his qualifications were raised publicly by the British press and a one-time philosophy researcher who left the university after his critique of diversity, equity and inclusion programs.

You don't have to kill yourself if your career gets murder-suicided by a racist or something. I would read a paper about fish and chips or whatever.

>>1530045
>Racist
Where's the racism in this one, faggot?

>>1530047
The guy who first exposed his plagiarism was a massive racist.

>>1530053
This somehow excuses plagiarism though?
And I bet he's racist because he was complaining about DEI blacks, such as this black plagiarist.
Is being right really racist? I suppose it is to liggerals. But liggerals are the dumbest sons of bitches on the planet.

>>1530056
>This somehow excuses plagiarism though?
It doesn't, but at the same time the dude's motivations for exposing him were absolutely rooted in the fact he's a massive racist who outright said he believes there should be zero black college professors because he thinks the entire black race is incapable of it. I'm willing to guess he just ran the work of every single black professor he could find through a plagiarism checker until he found a hit.

>>1530060
>I'm willing to guess he just ran the work of every single black professor he could find through a plagiarism checker until he found a hit.
Faith-based reasoning? What's it like to be in a cult?

>>1530061
god your life is humiliating

>>1530061
>Faith-based reasoning? What's it like to be in a cult?
Yeah I'm sure it's a wacky coincidence that the guy who got fired by the same college for repeatedly saying that black people shouldn't be professors later decided to run a black professor hired by that same college through a plagiarism checker.

>>1530063
Cultists complaining
https://www.varsity.co.uk/news/30360

>>1530065
all of your threads are bad, but not as bad as your life

>>1530063
Do you not believe science?

>>1530065
Yeah he still got fired for those comments.

>>1530068
So, that's a "No, science is racist!!"?

>>1530065
What is this article supposed to prove?

>>1530070
>The policy is designed to allow academics to express “controversial or unpopular opinions within the law, without fear of intolerance or discrimination”. This commitment includes ensuring academics are not “adversely affected” in their careers for holding controversial views.
That you're in a cult.

>>1530069
Broken clocks are right twice a day. It doesn't mean they're any less broken. The guy was a racist who found a black person who actually did do something wrong. If anything he's the reason it took them 2 years to do anything about it because his open bias made it hard to believe him.

>>1530071
Still got fired because literally over a thousand students complained about him. He's entitled to not face charges for his views but they're still very much allowed to fire him for being a general shithead.

>>1530074
>58
>Over 1000!!!!
Uh?

>>1530074
Quit after his term=fired now?

>>1530071
How does that prove I’m in a cult?

>>1530075
>The blog posts sparked a widespread student campaign calling for Cofnas’ firing – including a petition that amassed over 1,200 signatures and a protest outside the philosophy faculty.

>>1530075
>>1530086
...so yeah, about 58

>>1530047
So, I never met any of these people, but somehow I read that there is some level of autism involved, like, this guy was at least a little bit autistic? You must know yourself that some autistic people recite what are the right answers to them almost word for word, or even just certain sections or phrases could be a word for word copy of someone else's right answer that they agree with. If it's very, very similar, you could just add a citation, I don't think that's a really big deal. But what I've read is that the first person who "left" that university was critiquing diversity, equity, and inclusion programs, so, basically, this person, to me, is just absolutely stupid and racist to criticize their employer's program for diversity, and that is most likely the reason that they "left". You can always do philosophy research from your church basement and whites only discord server if that's what you want to do, why would you want to be so stupid to try to make some english university or whatever into that. Now that they've lost their university career, they want to prove themselves by saying I have found an instance where a possibly diversity program person and also possibly not, I don't know them, did not include enough citations. It's distracting and becoming a problem so this guy resigns too. I don't know any of these people, but two options you might expect to find are either one, this guy is now dead and it turns out there are not that many important mistakes, or two, this guy is now dead and he made huge mistakes the whole time. I don't know any of these people, and this is all speculation.

>>1530060
Nathan Cofnas does in fact not believe that there should be zero black college professors.
He is a hereditarian (meaning he believes that there are different genetic predispositions for things like IQ between racial groups), and this of course makes him a racist in many people's eyes.
This also means he believes that, in a purely meritocratic system, certain groups would end up being vastly underrepresented in the academic elites, but not zero (the bell curve has a long tail).
Also, he has publicly stated that he isn't even opposed to having some racial quotas in order to guarantee that black people have some representation in higher education - he just criticizes the narrative that it's all because of structural racism and doesn't want these positions to be filled with fraudsters.

>>1530053
No he isn't. The black-white I.Q. gap is one of the most established findings in the history of social sciences. We've observed it since at least the First World War, and proxies for it go back much further, as seen by age-heaping and name signing in the 19th Century U.S. Census. Absolutely nothing has made a difference in narrowing this gap.

If Nathan Cofnas, or anybody else, acknowledging objective facts is racist, the word has no meaning.

>>1530073
No he isn't, you fucking simpleton. Cofnas was not the original complaintant. The original complaintant is still at Cambridge, and was silenced after Arday abused libel law to call the cops on him. Everyone at Cambridge knew Arday was a fraud and a fabulist, but couldn't do anything about it, since admin was desperate for a diversity hire with an inspirational story. This was tipped to Cofnas since, as he was already pushed out of Cambridge for being a hereditarian, he had no career left to ruin. Cofnas is the only reason this story was allowed to get legs.

>>1530107
>>1530108
>he's not racist, he just thinks black people are dumber because they're black

>>1530106
We have no reason to believe Arday was autistic. He claimed to have been nonverbal until he was eleven. Temple Grandin, by contrast, was nonverbal until age three-and-a-half.

Look at literally any video of Arday talking and then any video of Grandin. It doesn't matter which. Does the former sound remotely more deeply impacted than the latter? Of course not! Therefore, particularly given that we know he lied about every detail of his life aside from once being a gym teacher, we should assume he's lying about being autistic too.

I say this not as some sort of shield. Autistics do terrible things all the time. Look at Chris-Chan. Look at Jeffeey Dahmer. Look at Hitler! But Arday was lacking in any such tells behind his own word, which was worthless.

>>1530110
The black-white I.Q. gap is a matter of record. It's been observed since almost as far back as we have standardized testing. In fact, it's been observed across every form of cognitive examination since:

https://arthurjensen.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/How-Much-Can-We-Boost-IQ-and-Scholastic-Achievement-OCR.pdf

It's just this fact is considered so offensive to bring up that many people nowadays are no longer even aware it exists. This was deliberate. Our forefathers knew quite well it existed, but both the left and right decided it would be best to keep this knowledge suppressed. Hence why the conversation on the topic has largely become the domain of places like 4chan, and other, only slightly-more-respectable places than 4chan:

https://www.amren.com/commentary/2017/05/richard-nixon-race-iq-moynihan-herrnstein/

>>1530107
In any purely meritocratic system selecting from a pool represented by two groups with unequal average performance on cognitive testing, it's impossible to draw in equal proportion to the applicants without lowering standards. This is the whole point of affirmative action. And it's not just a U.S. problem, nor a problem with minorities. In Malaysia, affirmative action exists to help the Malay majority in their cognitive underperformance relative to the Chinese minority. Their version is significantly worse than the U.S. version:

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/affirmative-action-malaysia-nep-james-chin

>>1530107
>Nathan Cofnas does in fact not believe that there should be zero black college professors.
He literally did. He literally said it should be 0% in a purely meritocratic system because he genuinely believes black people cannot be as intelligent as white people.

>>1530112
>>1530113
These entire studies are based entirely off social factors yet claim to be based on biology. It is inherently flawed methodology and has been disproven multiple times.

>>1530112
>Our founding fathers, who founded America on July 4th, 1776, were well aware that black people had a low IQ, because apparently they all did poorly on the IQ tests they gave to slaves, which were not invented until 1905. (The IQ tests, not the slaves)
A racist is a fucking moron. How shocking.
You realize IQ is a heavily slanted metric, and you're an imbecile for using it as a way to measure intelligence? No, of course you don't, what am I saying, you're a fucking moron.
>>1530113
>The only way for affirmative action to work is to lower standards. It would be totally impossible for there to be more qualified candidates than positions. I'm a fucking moron.

>>1530111
>one autist was nonverbal until one age. A different autist was nonverbal until a much later age. This is smoking gun evidence the first one wasn't autistic.
Cool. So what is the full name of that condition called.
>Autism SPECTRUM disorder.
Interesting. So everyone who has it acts the same?
>>No, it's a SPECTRUM.
So is it reasonable for a layperson to compare one autistic person's symptoms to another to diagnose them?
>No, it's a SPECTRUM
Wow. So would you ever really expect two unrelated people to have exactly the same symptoms, need the same care, etc..?
>No, it's a SPECTRUM.
So that makes you a...?
>I'm a fucking idiot!
A fucking idiot, that's right, good job! Have a tism treat. Which I think is just a lukewarm chicken nugget.

>>1530116
>He literally said it should be 0% in a purely meritocratic system because he genuinely believes black people cannot be as intelligent as white people.

It's not a matter of belief. Every standardized test of any kind shows the same gap in results, whether the average performance on SATs, the LSAT, the MCAT, the average performance on Raven's, achievements in the arts and sciences, backwards-digit recitation. How is not being able to recite as many digits backwards as white people attributable to socioeconomic factors?

Furthermore, why are the results even *worse* in Subsaharan Africa? If being part of a minority makes you perform worse on cognitive tests by a standard deviation, why in countries to which they're the majority and under self rule see a performance of two standard deviations below or worse?

>>1530120
I wasn't referring to our founding fathers, dumbass! I was referring to Richard Nixon. Which you would know if you had read the article I linked, but you're clearly far too stupid to actually expect such behavior of.

>The only way for affirmative action to work is to lower standards

Yeah. That's literally the definition of affirmative action. If you didn't need to lower standards to have affirmative action, its goals could be accomplished by blind standardized testing. Instead, said blind tests are consistently attacked as evidence of white supremacy when they fail to produce sufficient racial and sexual diversity:

https://museonline.org/blog/to-make-orchestras-more-diverse-end-blind-auditions/

There *is* no version of affirmative action which doesn't demand you lower standards.

>>1530135
>It's not a matter of belief. Every standardized test of any kind shows the same gap in results, whether the average performance on SATs, the LSAT, the MCAT, the average performance on Raven's, achievements in the arts and sciences, backwards-digit recitation. How is not being able to recite as many digits backwards as white people attributable to socioeconomic factors?
Gap is slowly closing which disproves your entire point of it being some kind of biological attribute. You and him both believe in a fucking pseudoscience.

>>1530135
>There *is* no version of affirmative action which doesn't demand you lower standards.
but we're not limited to your drug fueled delusions, we have real world examples to work with
you're getting dumber, esl shill

>>1530121
There *is* no known example of somebody with autism so severe that they were nonverbal until the age of eleven who went onto become a professional public speaker of any kind. Temple Grandin represents an extreme outlier. I've seen her lecture before, and she still has massive tells, like a total absence of nonverbal reciprocity to her audience. It was as though she was blind, giving a lecture to an empty room.

Arday was, by his own admission, significantly more impaired than Grandin. Yet he provided no such absence of nonverbal reciprocity. Hence, it was obvious he was lying, even before his schoolmates were interviewed confirming he was lying about being nonverbal until age eleven. He might as well have claimed to be Santa Claus.

>>1530136
To the extent that this isn't just poor methodology, it's not closing. The rates of interracial unions are rising, and people who would have previously identified as white identify as black to benefit from affirmative action. Barring cases like Shaun King and Rachel Dolezal, where they're simply lying about their ancestry entirely.

Furthermore, black people in America are significantly richer and more prosperous than most of the people on Earth today, including the Chinese. Why do they perform worse than the Chinese and the Japanese and the Koreans on every cognitive test despite always being poorer than them?

>>1530137
Name one of them.

>>1530137
Achieving equity (insofar as democrats are concerned) means to treat unequal things unequally.

>>1530139
>The rates of interracial unions are rising, and people who would have previously identified as white identify as black to benefit from affirmative action
Yeah just admit you don't like minorities. It's a lot easier than peddling pseudoscience IQ tests because Phrenology went out of style.

>>1530141
nah, it just means that mediocre white chuds who were historically buoyed with racism have to finally deal with an actual meritocracy.
since corporate america is more greedy than racist, its never going away

>>1530143
The same tests which reliably show Eastasians performing ahead of every other continental race?

>>1530144
If we're in an actual meritocracy, why not just use standardized tests with no racial quotas? Why not just allow private companies to hire and fire whoever they want using whatever standards they want?

>>1530148
>Why not just allow private companies to hire and fire whoever they want using whatever standards they want?
Because then they would only hire asians, whites and jews.
As the black and brown population of the US grows they begin to compete for jobs. Without jobs the rate of crime goes up, which increases civil unrest etc.

>>1530148
>Why not just allow private companies to hire and fire whoever they want using whatever standards they want?
Because those standards have a bad tendency to be "whites only regardless of skill" you fucking retard. Just ignore the whole reason they exist in the first place, then be shocked when the thing they were designed to prevent happens again.

>>1530147
IQ tests are, ironically, a fucking terrible way to rate general intelligence and this has been known for quite some time.

>>1530150
Source?

>>1530150
The US Military can set standards without racial animosity
The Marines don't have any race problems. They treat everybody like they're black

>>1530152
Have you ever heard of Jim Crowe era? How about the Civil Rights movement? Perhaps even the idea of Segregation?

>>1530148
>have a standard system of morality
>want to increase good things and minimize bad things like everybody else does
>implement a meritocracy to maximize good things and minimize bad things
>create standardized tests to filter for competency
>realize that certain races are objectively better than others at certain tasks
>suffer a moral panic over your egalitarian society developing a hierarchy based on evolutionary biology
>minority groups begin to riot because they're violent, low-IQ, racial collectivists etc
>try to correct the problem by making Civil Rights laws
>minority groups keep rioting
>implementing inclusive workspaces, television shows, government programs etc that disproportionately favor minority groups
>minority groups keep rioting
>create a collective pathology round the idea that 'whiteness' is the reason why these people are still suffering
>minority groups keep rioting
We've stopped being a meritocracy long ago anon.

>>1530155
What does the Jim Crowe era and civil rights have to do with employer run IQ tests or competency tests?
If black people had as good test scores as white and Asian applicants they would be sorted with the white and Asian applicants, there would be academic segregation through test scores not racial segregation

>>1530153
>The Marines don't have any race problems.
Really?
>https://davidcecelski.com/2022/02/19/we-returned-home-to-our-enemies-black-marines-and-the-struggle-for-racial-equality-at-the-cherry-point-marine-corps-air-station/
>https://orato.world/2021/08/02/deep-rooted-racism-discrimination-permeates-u-s-military/
>https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/military-still-grappling-with-racism-and-extremism-investigation-finds
>https://whyy.org/articles/deep-rooted-racism-discrimination-permeate-u-s-military/
>https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jun/03/pete-hegseth-navy-promotion-list

>>1530157
*I* know that.

I also know why. If you insist that all inequality of outcome is due to systemic racism, any otherwise neutral procedure that produces unequal results will be treated as evidence of racism, and attacked until it produces a more acceptable racial ratio. Particularly given how few people are ever told the truth, we should expect nothing less than what we've seen these last sixty years.

>>1530158
>If black people had as good test scores as white and Asian applicants they would be sorted with the white and Asian applicants, there would be academic segregation through test scores not racial segregation
You know nothing about how racism actually works and general IQ test scores are objectively a terrible way to scout merit. It's called SYSTEMIC racism for a reason you retard; who do you think determines what are on those tests?

>>1530153
The military's racial animosity is overshadowed by its sexual animosity. The government has attempted for decades to equalize outcomes between sexes in the military. It's been a disaster:

https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/501331.Women_in_the_Military

>>1530157
>>1530161
Here's something you retards need to learn; Meritocracy is inherently impossible because merit is inherently subjective and system as a whole falls apart because trusting everyone in it to somehow be universally objective never works. You retards are no better than communists insisting "real communism has never been tried", it's just you try to have biological pseudoscience instead of economic pseudoscience to back it up.

>>1530157
Let it be known that in this very thread when it was pointed out this entire theory doesn't work since the IQ test gap has been shrinking over the years, either this anon or one with the same beliefs legitimately tried to blame it on the idea that more white people were identifying as black.

>>1530162
It's called systemic racism because they cannot point at the teachers being racist or the questions being racist, so they have to say tests or standards themselves are racist because there's a disparate impact among test scores?

>>1530162
How are progressive matrix problems systemically racist?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raven%27s_Progressive_Matrices

Not only were they specifically designed to *not* have a cultural component, but people significantly more deprived than African Americans have been shown to outperform them! Cambodians, for instance. Their entire intellectual class was genocided in living memory, and they *still* perform as well on Raven's as Euro Americans:

https://richardlynn.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/smpcambodia.pdf

For that matter, how are analogy questions. The ADoS have been in this country longer than almost anybody. English *is* their native language. The slave trade was ended generations before slavery in large part to cut off the flow of African culture into North America, and it worked. They have less connection to their ancestral homelands than any other group in the country, yet their performance on analogy questions has consistently been a standard deviation below Euro-Am average. Afro-Am poor performance is the *reason* analogy questions were removed from the SATs. To make the test more gameable. More studyable. Which is the only reliable means to lower the performance gaps, even though these very said means also make the test a less reliable measure of general intelligence.

>>1530155
Yes. And?

>>1530060
So you could say, he was right this time, but only in the same way that a stopped clock is right twice a day.

>>1530168
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16834521/
Reminder that the gap fucking disappeared when it wasn't framed as an IQ test. There are more cultural and social implications at play when these tests are taken then you either realize or want to admit, but of course you don't care because you'd rather look for reasons to justify your already existing bias.

>>1530167
>so they have to say tests or standards themselves are racist because there's a disparate impact among test scores?
>I can't understand the idea that the tests may be created with inherent social/cultural biases and this is why actual fields don't use this shit as any kind of metric and it's near exclusively used by retards trying to promote themselves or put down others

>>1530164
Spoken like someone who knows absolutely nothing about intelligence research. The indifference of the indicator was discovered by Charles Spearman well over a century ago, when he noticed that students who did well at any one area of study were more likely to do well in every other area. This is why the kids in school who were really good at math were also really good at writing papers.

As it turns out, the better somebody is at solving novel problems, the better they are at solving *all* kinds of problems.

Furthermore, if you genuinely believed this, you wouldn't be putting so much effort into restricting people's freedom to hire and fire who *they* choose as *they* see fit. Like all commies, all you care about is power; and since you can't build anything yourself, you just wanna steal all functioning systems for yourself and your perverted purpose. The helicopter can't come for you soon enough.

>>1530175
>Spoken like someone who knows absolutely nothing about intelligence research.
Retard don't try to claim this when you don't even recognize the term "meritocracy" is from a fucking satire that was arguing it was a dumb idea for the exact same reasons I just laid out.

>As it turns out, the better somebody is at solving novel problems, the better they are at solving *all* kinds of problems.
Look up the Peter Principle.

>Furthermore, if you genuinely believed this, you wouldn't be putting so much effort into restricting people's freedom to hire and fire who *they* choose as *they* see fit
Again, this inevitably leads to unfair discrimination. There's a reason those laws are in place to begin with.

> Like all commies, all you care about is power; and since you can't build anything yourself, you just wanna steal all functioning systems for yourself and your perverted purpose. The helicopter can't come for you soon enough.
And of course we hit the natural endpoint of calling me a communist for no coherent reason. Ironically while also pushing the same "The real thing has never been tried" bullshit actual communists use.

>>1530173
What a huge faggy thing to posit.

>>1530172
It's easy to get impressive results when you only have eighteen people per cell. For three groups, that's an uncertainty of d=0.4. Hence why this allegedly remarkable discovery that the stereotype threat is responsible for a standard deviation difference in performance didn't end up overturning the prior century's wisdom on intelligence research, and Ryan P. Brown remains so unfamous that he doesn't even have a Wikipedia page.

>>1530148
>why not just use standardized tests with no racial quotas? Why not just allow private companies to hire and fire whoever they want using whatever standards they want?
we don't know the imaginary laws you made up in your mind
there is no racial quota law

you're just programmed to wind yourself up

>>1530176
>Again, this inevitably leads to unfair discrimination. There's a reason those laws are in place to begin with.

The laws are there precisely because of naked racial bullying! If people genuinely wanted equality, they would have been fine respecting the rights of others to freely associate with those of their own choosing. But they weren't. To them, society is nothing but a racial spoils system, and all that matters is stealing from others in a desperate attempt to fill the empty void where their soul's supposed to be.

>>1530180
>The laws are there precisely because of naked racial bullying!
Wait so we need to have laws stopping people from discriminating against minorities because it's bullying and inequality to make it so people don't deny others positions based on their race?

>>1530179
The whole point of AA/DEI is racial quota. Either officially, like in Malaysia; or quasi-officially, like in the United States. You cannot achieve equal outcomes between races any other way.

For that matter, nor can you achieve it *this* way neither! There's just as much inequality of outcome between races in the 2020s as there was in the 1920s, or the 1960s, or the 1990s. There has never and will never be a time when all races achieve equal outcomes. Hence why we should scrap civil rights law. It's corrupted and corroded our societal character. Arday is its logical endpoint.

>>1530178
>Hence why this allegedly remarkable discovery that the stereotype threat is responsible for a standard deviation difference in performance didn't end up overturning the prior century's wisdom on intelligence research, and Ryan P. Brown remains so unfamous that he doesn't even have a Wikipedia page.
I bet you think you're a real intellectual lol.
>Uh if this disproves my whole point than why isn't he famous? Checkmate libtard, you don't even have a wikipedia page.

>>1530182
>Hence why we should scrap civil rights law. It's corrupted and corroded our societal character.
Yeah you really aren't beating the "I'm just racist and want to work backwards so I can say it's totally a objective and not my personal bias" allegations anon.

>>1530181
No. We need to have no laws of this kind and *let* people make whatever kind of decisions they want on who they associate with for otherwise lawful conduct. If they don't wanna hire black people? women? Fine! Their loss! If they don't wanna sell wedding cakes to homosexuals? Fine! They can buy from someone who does!

Civil rights law turns these from personal matters solved by individuals into a system which refuses to recognize any such concept as the private sphere. There's no longer such thing as the personal. It's all political. Hence why we should scrap it.

>>1530188
>Just legalize discrimination lol
Opinion discarded.

>>1530173
It's pretty funny how Asian American students don't struggle with the inherent social/cultural biases of tests and perform well. It's just black people who struggle. And it has to be the tests that are racist. You cannot explain the gap by measuring how much time Asian students spend on studying every week, or how much Asian parents spend on tutoring

>>1530183
If you've successfully overturned an entire field with one study, a field for whom many of its eminent figures presently *do* have Wikipedia pages, you *should* have a Wikipedia page.

If you don't, and your study is twenty years old, it's because you did not actually overturn anything. Your study was nothing but noise. And it's hardly like the results of stereotype threat are robust otherwise:

https://www.cremieux.xyz/p/maybe-youre-just-not-smart

>>1530190
Why?

Why should it be illegal to not hire people at *your* company if *you* don't want to?

>>1530186
Don't you understand how a law which treats people differently on the basis of race is perpetuating racism?
In the same way European laws which say you have to hire X number of Catholics and Y number of Protestants perpetuates religious discrimination

>>1530191
I'm not gonna sit here and explain every cultural factors and difference to you anon, just know we can tell you work backwards to justify your own biases.

>>1530192
Ironic the guy shouting to the heavens about how much IQ scores matter literally judges studies based on how many wikipedia articles they have.

Anyways your complete inability to recognize the idea that IQ tests aren't everything ironically marks you as pretty fucking stupid.

>>1530166
It hasn't been shrinking. The gap has not seen narrowing since the '80s:

https://web.archive.org/web/20200116102722/https://medium.com/@houstoneuler/the-cherry-picked-science-in-voxs-charles-murray-article-bd534a9c4476

>>1530193
>Why is discrimination bad
And other things you can say that would mark you as too comically evil to be a believable character in a work of fiction

>>1530197
>https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3146648
I can sit here and argue all day but your position is clearly based on your own bias and then working backwards to support it. Nothing will ever be enough for you to change your mind until you actually have some proper real world experiences that make you realize how fucking ridiculous your mindset is.

>>1530190
It just seems kind of arbitrary.
Job interviews are allowed to screen people out who are stupid or incompetent. That's sort of the point, so nobody would ban employers from doing this.
There are things which you can discriminate on because they're not included in the civil rights law. You can refuse to hire someone because they're left handed. Or because you don't like the sound of their voice. These are inherent characteristics, they didn't choose to be left handed but employers are allowed to discriminate. The civil rights act basically separates it into two buckets, things you're allowed to discriminate on and things you're not allowed to discriminate on, and the sorting of those 2 buckets seems entirely arbitrary

>>1530196
There's a Wikipedia article on the scientist who started the diet coke and mentos craze.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Spangler

Are you telling me starting a minor online viral trend is a greater scientific achievement than overturning the findings of such figures as Francis Galton, Charles Spearman, Arthur Jensen, Raymond Cattell, John Horn, John Carroll, Richard Herrnstein, and Charles Murray? All of whom have Wikipedia pages?

And that nobody at Wikipedia—which is already infamous for its anti-hereditarian bias—has noticed this in the last twenty years?

Well, you better get right on it! This Ryan P. Brown guy's a major historical figure! At least on the level of those other guys I mentioned. You shouldn't be wasting your time with the likes of us. Go over there! Make him famous!

I'll be checking every day until you post his article!

>>1530195
Do you need me to sit here and explain how studying influences test scores and the high amount of studying in the Asian community and a lack of studying in the African community?
https://qz.com/970130/asians-spend-15-of-their-family-income-on-extra-education-and-tutoring-for-kids-americans-spend-it-on-cars-and-gas
Asian parents with graduate degrees spent 22 percent more on tutoring for their children than similarly credentialed white parents;
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/report-princeton-review-s-overcharging-asians-called-tiger-mom-tax-n420401

>>1530198
Why is not hiring somebody because of their race or sex any less discriminatory than not hiring them because, as >>1530203 pointed out, they're left-handed? Or because you don't like the sound of their voice? They didn't choose those things about themselves!

Hence the whole rottenness of the system. You're essentially saying that the government can pick and choose which characteristics people are allowed to make choices about, and that even systems which in practice produce inequality of outcome must be kneecapped simply for producing the incorrect racial or sexual balance. It's a rejection of the very idea that people can be free to govern their own affairs as *they* see fit.

>>1530205
Then how does that explain Cambodia as seen above? How does having your entire intellectual class murdered by communists still leave you with European-level Raven's scores?

>>1530206
It's fucking insane that you see a system where some immutable characteristics can be discriminated against and some can't, and your response is to remove the protections because they don't cover every conceivable category, rather than expand the protections to include those categories not yet covered. I don't think people should discriminate against the left handed either, if that's an issue where you are then absolutely let's legislate it.
>you should be able to discriminate against everyone or no one! So you should be able to discriminate against everyone!
Is your effective argument.
"You shouldn't be able to discriminate against anyone!" Is how a neurotypical person would finish that sentiment. You don't understand that and are evaluating the system based on how fair it feels to you, and not on its morality, because you don't understand morality; because you don't understand empathy; because you are a psychopath.

>>1530209
I think we know the way it would be expanded. It would be expanded to prevent employers from firing/refusing to hire someone because of their gender identity, but it would have no problem with someone being fired from their job because they're a Trump supporter.
This is a left wing grift. Who is allowed to be discriminated against and who isn't is the entire game.

It's less insane if you think about it as at will employment, where you can quit for whatever reason you want whenever you want and they can fire you for whatever reason they want whenever they want

>>1530200
Of the thirteen sources listed in the study you posted, the author claims ten showed a narrowing of the gap, and three—Murray '06, Gottfredson '05, Rushton 2012—did not. Yet actually looking at the studies he cited shows he included a Lynn '96 paper, which was inconclusive, and a Lynn '98 paper, which was negative. Both of these, he counts as affirming the narrowing. The Vincent '91 study was also inconclusive, yet he counts it in the ten; and Rushton/Jensen 2010 was negative, yet still he counts it among the ten! His Jencks/Phillips '98 study was also derivative of his Hedges/Nowell '98 study, which was already included on his list, and which measured achievement and not I.Q.

Robust scholarship would not need to resort to this level of hackery. But antihereditarianism has long ago abandoned scholarship.

>I can sit here and argue all day but your position is clearly based on your own bias and then working backwards to support it.

The feeling's mutual!

>Nothing will ever be enough for you to change your mind until you actually have some proper real world experiences that make you realize how fucking ridiculous your mindset is.

It's my real-world experience that helped disabuse me of this notion! Because unlike you, I didn't spend my whole life in a lily-white suburb in my parents basement. I actually lived and worked in the real world. The cognitive gap is real and enormous, and not just the B-W I.Q. gap. It's too reliable to be due to purely socioeconomic factors. Admittedly, my own experience is still just my experience, but it also shows up in everything else. Hence why, to ameliorate it, once robust institutions are now letting within their halls unqualified fabulists like Jason Arday.

>>1530210
Hence why, rather than expanding it to protect every possible category, which could be unfair, by whatever standard that's supposed to mean, we should scrap this business entirely. The government has proven that they cannot be trusted to handle this level of power. They've poisoned and corrupted our society by making every private action a litigation flashpoint.

>>1530209
It's fucking insane that you think you're doing something good by violating the 1st amendment.

>>1530186
give esl shill a break, if they used logic then they wouldn't have anything to back up their racist delusions

>>1530217
>Racism is bad!
>Except against ESLs! Total ESL death!

I legitimately don't understand why you post here. Shouldn't you be on Bluesky?

>>1530209
Should employers be allowed to discriminate against incompetent people who would do their job poorly? Or should protections be expanded to prevent incompetent people from being discriminated against?

>>1530210
The fact that it was already expanded to meet the needs of disability is proof that there is no limiting principle to anti-discrimination law.

It's fundamentally nonsensical. Nobody chooses to be born blind any more than they choose to be born black. Why is it any less discriminatory to not hire a blind person as airtraffic controller than it is to not hire a black person as one? Why is it any less discriminatory to not hire someone with cerebral palsy as a neurosurgeon than to not hire a Native American?

It's not. There is no difference. Either you believe people have the right to make their own choices for their own reasons or you don't.

>>1530222
You're literally a shill, nobody would care about your language deficiency if you weren't a spamming faggot wasting every single day here lying

>>1530227
you literally don't understand what you're talking about because you're a retarded esl shill
badly programmed ai could shit out less nonsensical arguments

>>1530229
You're literally a shill that's why you waste every single day here calling other people shills. You get paid per post.

esl shill is projecting again

>>1530233
>>>1530035

>>1530116
>He literally said it should be 0% in a purely meritocratic system
He *literally* said it "would approach 0%." Big difference retard, get your quotes straight.

1530188
>Civil rights law
>we should scrap it
I'm all for that. Deny all white rightists of their rights: even the right to exist. For several thousand years at least. Then after that, they'll have the slightest bit of sympathy, thus be given rights.
What white rightists have done to those not exactly like them. And what white rightists today would like to do to those not exactly like them if they had any political power, therefore they should be discriminated against. The discrimination will continue until opinions improve.
If white rightists can't take being discriminated against, they never had the right to dish it out in the first place.

>>1530253
>He *literally* said it "would approach 0%." Big difference retard, get your quotes straight.
>No he didn't say 0%, he just said it would be reaching 0%
This is the same loser that claimed he'd be professor of eugenics at harvard after some bullshit revolution, he said what he said.

>>1530287
ESL retards who don't know the difference between "should" and "would" __ould keep their brown mouths shut

Q: How do others in /news/ know that 1530289 is projecting?
A: Its mouth is open