>>1530952
Holding a fair and safe vote would present considerable challenges for a country under repeated Russian bombardment and many Ukrainians saw Trump's remarks as reflecting Vladimir Putin's narrative that Zelensky is not a legitimate leader.

In the latest Russian attacks on Wednesday, four people were killed when a drone hit a minibus in the southern city of Kherson. Buses and minibuses in Kherson have been repeatedly targeted in recent months, killing drivers and passengers alike.

In the central city of Zhytomyr, two police officers were killed and another 20 people injured in a Russian drone strike on the regional police headquarters, a local official said.

In a separate development, Ukraine's two anti-corruption agencies said they were conducting a special operation targeting current and former MPs as well as an unnamed official in the presidential office.

Hours later, Zelensky's office said its deputy head Iryna Mudra had been dismissed, amid local media reports of a raid on her premises.

There was no immediate comment from Mudra, although MP Vadym Stolar, whose home was searched as part of the operation, said he was co-operating with anti-corruption officials.

In his video, Fedorov complained that corruption was depriving the military of weapons and equipment and making it harder for Kyiv to win the war. He spoke of Ukraine facing a "systemic crisis of governance" and being "scared of change".

About 100 protesters gathered outside the Ukrainian parliament on Wednesday morning, chanting "bring back Fedorov as minister of defence" and "we are fed up, we want dialogue".

Fedorov is a charismatic politician, and during his tenure as defence minister, he was credited with energising the ministry, heading a drive against corruption, challenging outdated military structures and transforming the battlefield with new technology.

>>1530953
His dismissal in mid-July is believed to have resulted from tensions between him and army commander-in-chief, Oleksandr Syrskyi.

Within days Syrskyi was also replaced, as mounting protests calling for Fedorov's reinstatement piled pressure on the Ukrainian president.

The ousted minister was offered other posts in the government, including deputy prime minister for military innovation, but he made clear he would only return as defence minister.

Fedorov spoke in the video of a sense of injustice, warning it was "particularly dangerous when society develops the feeling that the main criterion for an appointment is not professionalism, results, or the ability to transform the country, but personal loyalty to the system".

The protests have continued weekly, with younger Ukrainians especially disappointed to see the established armed forces chief favoured over the fresh-faced digital innovator.

He gave no indication of his own political plans in the YouTube video, instead focusing on the need for a "legal, safe, and realistic mechanism that will allow Ukraine to restore a full democratic process even amidst a prolonged war".

In the space of a month, he has gone from saying he would only return to government in his old job, to calling for widespread reform and political change. He has not explicitly stated his intention to run against Zelensky but he has laid down the most serious challenge yet, calling for "a state where institutions are stronger than names".

That might be a reference to Zelensky's own personal profile, but after such a stark intervention, it is Fedorov's name that is now doing the rounds.

His call for elections has angered some Ukrainian commentators, including those who backed Fedorov's return as defence minister. One of Zelensky's detractors argued that even the government's fiercest opponents understood that holding elections during the war was impossible.

>>1530954
Ivan, 24, who was among the protesters calling for Fedorov's reinstatement outside parliament, told the BBC that "elections at this time of war wouldn't be the best thing".

Oleksandr Merezhko, an MP loyal to Zelensky, said he had backed Fedorov's return to the defence ministry but found his idea for new elections as "very dangerous and unrealistic".

"It will weaken the country and our unity, our resilience. That's why I think that the idea to hold elections unfortunately plays into the hands of Putin."

Another pro-Fedorov protester in Kyiv, Maya, said elections were not a good idea when Ukraine was at war. Zelensky was for now "the best choice, the safest option for all of us, but after the war ends I hope there will be a new president", she said.

Opposition MP Volodymyr Aryev disagreed, accusing Zelensky of being detached from reality and saying "we have reached a point where we must choose between elections and chaos".

A former minister of digital transformation, Fedorov set up a volunteer "IT Army of Ukraine" to launch cyber-attacks against Russians in the early days after Putin launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

Later, he led a successful fundraising campaign called the Army of Drones and brought in elements of "gamification" to the war, designing a system that awarded Ukrainian military units with credits for hitting Russian targets.

As defence minister, his focus on drones, high-tech warfare and procurement continued, and saw him ask SpaceX founder Elon Musk to stop Russia from using Starlink satellites for drone attacks.

The move has been credited with causing considerable disruption to Russia's frontline operations and advance.

In a Facebook post shortly after his dismissal, Fedorov listed his achievements and said he would "continue... to defeat the enemy through asymmetry, speed of innovation, and organisational strength".

>>1530952
>Zelensky - whose five-year presidential term ended in May 2024 - has been under pressure from both Washington and Moscow to hold new elections.
Who cares? Especially from Moscow, are you fucking kidding me?

The jew Zelensky won't do this. He's a dictator. Warmonger. Thief. Coward. Monster. Fuck him. FREE UKRAINE Z

>>1530958
Are you surprised that Russia wants the war to end?

>>1530960
I'm surprised that anyone is giving Russia's opinion on the politics of the country they fucking invaded the time of day. That's ridiculous.
>"Ukraine should have elections like a good democracy!" says reason Ukraine isn't having elections that's trying to overthrow their democracy.
That's a fucking Onion headline.

They'd have to alter their constitution first.

>>1530952
Is there a way to end martial law and restore regular elections without ending the war?

>>1530964
Ukraine can do whatever it has the political willpower to do. They're not holding elections because they don't want to.

Daily reminder Zelensky trafficked children to Joe and Hunter Briben. All 3 of them have gang raped children.

>>1530961
CNN gave airtime to Colin Powell after the United States invaded Iraq, telling us about the Iraqi WMD program.
American officials give their opinions on the politics of the country they fucking invaded every single war

>>1530958
I'm sure Washington and Moscow aren't uses to these kinds of things, but Ukraine would literally have to change its constitution before an election would even be legal.
>>1530960
This shit is always so funny to me, as if Zelensky is single-handedly preventing Ukraine from capitulating to Russia while everyone else can't wait for it to happen
You are aware that the most likely candidates to win the election like Budanov and Zaluzhnyi are probably even less likely to agree to any sort of compromise, right?
>>1530965
I just don't see how it's feasible. How to soldiers at the front vote? How do PoWs or refugees? What about people living under occupation? What if any of the aforementioned want to run for office.
How would it possible to hold a fair and secret election under all those circumstances and if by some miracle they still managed to, what reason would anyone have to believe in the legitimacy of the result, given the circumstances of the election?
There's a reason most countries don't hold elections during wartime.

>>1530958
I think it's funny that both trump and putin, who are both far right authortarians, staged a coup and does everything to rig elections are trying to lecture anyone else on democracy.

>>1530970
To be fair I assume Putin is smart enough to know that elections would likely destabilize Ukraine as does the demand for elections. Meanwhile Trump is just an idiot who can't have an opinion and just repeats what he thinks sounds good in the moment.

>>1530970
Trump did none of those things. Joe Briben stole the 2020 election though.

esl shill is begging for attention again

>>1530969
>I just don't see how it's feasible.
Just do it.
There's nothing in the law that says every single person has to vote or voting is impossible.

>>1530962
>>1530969
Hello Ukrainian Constitutional scholar. What do you know about the minutiae of the Ukrainian political scandals. Is it the declaration of War by Ukraine or Russia that suspends elections, or is it the declaration of Martial law?
Where are you getting your knowledge of the Ukrainian Constitution and the legal powers of their executive?

>>1530981
It's in plain black and white text. Spoonfeed yourself.

>>1530967
>but what about

>I'm surprised anyone is giving Russia's opinion on the politics of the country they fucking invaded the time of day
>We constantly give countries the time of day after they invade a country, here is a specific example from recent history
that's whataboutism!

>>1530967
>>1530988
That's not the same thing as Russia saying "Ukraine should have elections" when Russia invading Ukraine is why they're not having elections. Fuck off with your false equivalence, you stupid bitch.

>>1530990
But it's not Russia saying it
>>1530952
Ukraine's popular ex-defence minister Mykhailo Fedorov has called for wartime elections, in what is widely seen as the biggest challenge to Volodymyr Zelensky's presidency since Russia's full-scale invasion four and a half years ago.

"Democracy cannot be held hostage by Russia," said Fedorov, 35, in a video posted to YouTube on Tuesday, adding that Ukraine is fighting "precisely because we want to remain a free European state".

Since the war broke out in 2022 Ukraine has been under martial law, meaning elections are suspended.
>>1530984
This article seems to imply the elections are suspended by martial law and not the war

>>1531000
is russia winning

>>1531001
Objectively speaking, yes

>>1531003
LOL

>>1531001
No. It already has lost the war, but not realizing it.
People empty their bank accounts. Russia is bankrupt, and they fear their money will be confiscated.

>>1531000
>But it's not Russia saying it
>Zelensky - whose five-year presidential term ended in May 2024 - has been under pressure from both Washington and Moscow to hold new elections.

>>1531009
I’m not surprised that the current US administration would take violating the constitution lightly

>>1531001
The war is a stalemate. Nobody is winning.
To quote Niko Bellic, War is when the young and stupid are tricked by the old and bitter into killing each other.

>>1531009
>>1531010
This is such a dumbass argument and idk why people bend over backwards to defend Zelensky no matter what.

Ukraine's constitution says no elections when under martial law (article 19). Ukraine held multiple elections during the war in Donbas. So, either Ukraine ends martial law or they change the constitution to permit an election during martial law.

Its no big deal, the US had elections in the middle of a civil war.

>>1531022
the civil war was strategically wrapping up by the time the elections happened. but it's cute that you did some rudimentary googling for your america larp

>>1531024
>the civil war was strategically wrapping up by the time the elections happened
Confirmed not American.

The North had some big wins by Q4 1864 (Atlanta etc) but 30% of the population was still in literally a different country and there were still ~400,000 confederate soldiers in the field.

Holy shit, stop being such a faggot.

>>1531027
you're trying way too hard today shill anon, but your lies are still quite see through. and remind us, is russia winning?

>>1531028
>n... no ur lying
Okay, present evidence to the contrary.

>and remind us, is russia winning?
No, they are losing.

>>1531030
i'm not debating with you, you're a lying faggot who nobody takes seriously. how about you get a real job

>russia is losing
ha ha, made you say it

>>1531031
>you're a lying faggot
Where is the lie?

>russia is losing
>ha ha, made you say it
Say what? Facts? Reality? Russia is losing, have been since like a week into the invasion.

>>1531010
They wouldn't need to change the constitution or end the war to get elections in Ukraine
All they need to do is end Martial Law and restore democracy. It's not Russia saying this, it's Ukrainian Ministers

i am steve from idaho oblast and the state of Ukrainian democracy upsets me, don't you agree with me american brethren

>>1531040
What do you think of Mamdani starting breadlines in new York?
Buying food at government grocery stores just like the old country

>>1531044
>breadlines are when poor people buy food

>>1531049
https://nypost.com/2026/04/25/us-news/mamdani-releases-propaganda-video-promoting-soviet-style-city-run-grocery-stores/

>>1531060
now post a real news source

>>1531060
>breadlines are when poor people buy food

>>1531106
The problem was Soviet grocery stores didn't have any food on the shelves for poor people to buy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_visit_by_Boris_Yeltsin_to_the_United_States#Grocery_store_visit_in_Houston

>>1531064
NY Post is leagues ahead of BBC. It's the only source that even matters

>>1531109
pause

>>1531115
Full stop!

>>1531109
>NY Post is leagues ahead of BBC
and we all know how much you love BBC

>>1530980
lmao, are you actually from Russia? Do you not understand what the purpose of an election is? How will an election like that have any legitimacy?

>>1531126
>How will an election like that have any legitimacy?
Are you really retarded enough to believe that literally every single constituent needs to vote or the election is invalid
They haven't been holding elections for almost ten years now

>>1531127
No, I'm saying that it would be trivial to call into question the legitimacy of an election where an arbitrary subset of people have no chance to vote. And I guarantee you, the same people who have been up in arms about Ukraine not holding elections for the past couple of years, would then be complaining about the election is rigged or whatever. What would be the point of an election that's not representative?
And it's not like Budanov or Zaluzhnyi or whoever else would be the new president would be more amicable to a peace deal with Russia as things stand.
>They haven't been holding elections for almost ten years now
That's some generous rounding. Anyways, as I said there is a good reason for why Ukraine and many other countries don't hold elections during wartime.

>>1531126
Do you think the 1876 election was legitimate?

>>1531149
Assuming you mean the US election? No clue, I'm not from there.

>>1530976
Why would you lie who trump not only staged a coup, but had his cult attack the capital and the police guarding it.

>>1531165
He told his followers to assemble peacefully and patriotically

>>1531168
>THE ELECTION WAS ILLEGITIMATE, GO TO THE CAPTIOL AND FIGHT! MIKE PENCE IS A COWARD!
>oh but do it peacefully tho

>>1531178
Didn't Hilary Clinton spend 4 years saying trump's victory was illegitimate and that Russians stole the election?

>>1531179
no?

>>1531180
https://www.businessinsider.com/clinton-putin-comey-russia-election-trump-2016-12
In a December 2016 private event with donors (audio obtained by The New York Times), she said the Russians’ “unprecedented plot to swing the election” was directed by Putin due to a “personal beef” with her, aiming to “undermine our democracy.” She linked this to her loss alongside James Comey’s letter

In a November 2017 Mother Jones interview, she stated that Russian meddling “was one of the major contributors to the outcome” via a “very successful disinformation campaign” that “wasn’t just influencing voters—it was determining the outcome.” Asked if it was a legitimate election (in light of Russian interference and voter suppression), she replied: “I think that there are lots of questions about its legitimacy,” and noted the lack of a mechanism to contest it while calling for an independent commission. She reiterated that the “web of connections” between Trump’s team and Russian representatives was growing denser.

In May 2019 remarks (during a speaking tour), she said she had been telling 2020 candidates: “You can run the best campaign, you can even become the nominee, and you can have the election stolen from you,” in the context of the Mueller report’s findings on Russian interference

In a September 2019 CBS News interview, she called Trump an “illegitimate president,” saying: “he knows he’s an illegitimate president… I believe he understands that the many varying tactics they used, from voter suppression and voter purging to hacking to the false stories… there were just a bunch of different reasons why the election turned out like it did.” She added that “this wasn’t on the level.”

>>1531182
...so she never claimed his victory was illegitimate or that russians stole the election?

I'll accept your concession, and I hope you give it promptly like Hillary did on election night

>>1531168
Clearly he didn't since they immediately attacked the capital

>>1531183
>so she never claimed his victory was illegitimate or that russians stole the election?

>In a September 2019 CBS News interview, she called Trump an “illegitimate president,” saying: “he knows he’s an illegitimate president
I think you have trouble reading

>>1531182
Did she tell an assembled crowd of supporters to fight over and over before sending them to where the election was being certified?

>>1531186
No, she said Trump was an illegitimate president once and esl shill hallucinated that was actually 4 years of contesting the election and blaming russians.

ESL shill is pretty brain damaged

>>1531186
Trump told his supporters to gather peacefully and patriotically so their voices could be heard
>>1531194
I seem to remember a multi year Mueller Probe that investigated Trump during his first term, which was instigated by Hillary Clintons campaign, including the Steele Dossier through Fusion GPS
The Mueller Probe found no collusion, no go between relaying messages between Trumps campaign and Russia. Hillary Clinton spent Trump's first term claiming his illegitimacy and trying to torpedo his presidency

>>1531259
you really need new lies

>>1531260
You need to actually respond to arguments instead of saying esl shill over and over again

>>1531261
you've already lost this "argument" countless times. and i didn't even call you your nickname that time. but i'm glad you know who you are bud

>>1531262
but esl shill needs you to play their game or they don't get their shill points

>>1531259
>Trump told his supporters to gather peacefully and patriotically so their voices could be heard
>FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT
>FIGHT LIKE HELL
Yeah really sounds like he just wanted them to voice their disagreement.

Hey btw if he disapproved of this so much why did he pardon all of them?

>>1531259
>Russia if you're listening

>>1531268
Hillary Clinton deletes all her emails servers, wiping them with bleach bit
Trump says "Russia if you're listening leak those emails"
The emails she wiped with bleach bit don't get leaked
Nothing happens.

>>1531259


>Trump associates repeatedly lied to investigators about their contacts with Russians, and President Trump refused to answer questions about his efforts to impede federal proceedings and influence the testimony of witnesses.
>A statement signed by over 1,000 former federal prosecutors concluded that if any other American engaged in the same efforts to impede federal proceedings the way Trump did, they would likely be indicted for multiple charges of obstruction of justice.
https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/


>Trump's campaign "expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts," Mueller's report said.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/mueller-report-russians-meddling-2016-election-sought-help-retweets-team-n996051

>the investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the Campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts,
https://www.justice.gov/archives/sco/file/1373816/dl?inline=

>>1531276
>>1531277
>citing the totally debunked muh Russia collusion
>year of our lord 2026
A level of boomer-lib previously thought unobtainable.

>Ukrainian nazis
no thanks
tell me about how they literally fap to their nazi killers, who murdered Poles, Czechs, Jews, Hungarians, Everyone. Fuck ukraine
>inb4 russia
Ukraine themselves want to be seen like that

>>1531279
how was it debunked?

>>1531283
>how was it debunked?
1. Mueller did not establish Trump-Russia conspiracy or coordination.
2. No Trump-campaign participation in the Russian hacking operation was established.
3. No knowing coordination with the Russian Internet Research Agency was established.
4. The Steele dossier’s core substantive allegations were never corroborated by the FBI.
5. Steele’s own primary subsource substantially undercut the dossier.
6. The Carter Page/Rosneft bribery story was badly undermined.
7. Yet the Steele material was “central and essential” to obtaining the Carter Page FISA warrant.
8. The Carter Page FISA applications contained 17 significant errors or omissions.
9. The FBI continued renewing Page surveillance after learning information that seriously undermined Steele.
10. The FBI omitted Carter Page’s prior cooperation with another U.S. intelligence agency.
11. An FBI lawyer actually falsified evidence used in the FISA process.
12. Exculpatory Page statements were not properly surfaced.
13. Papadopoulos also made exculpatory statements to FBI informants.
14. Steele’s political motivation was incompletely presented.
15. The FBI’s Alfa Bank/Trump secret-server theory went nowhere.
16. Some of the major Russia allegations reaching the FBI originated with Trump’s political opponents.
17. Durham concluded that confirmation bias and lack of analytical rigor infected the investigation.
18. Durham also found markedly different treatment of Clinton-related foreign-influence information.
19. The FBI had intelligence suggesting the Clinton campaign planned to tie Trump to Russia.
20. Anti-Trump FBI texts were real.
21. The IG did not conclude that political bias caused Crossfire Hurricane to be opened.

Feel free to nitpick the above items, I wont be responding. I have a strict "no interacting with boomers after 7 PM" policy.

>>1531287
>[CITATION NEEDED]

How come some of trump's cronies got convicted by mueller?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_charges_brought_in_the_Mueller_special_counsel_investigation

>>1531287
quite the firehose there esl shill

>>1531259
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-65613941
>Rudy Giuliani: ‘Let’s have trial by combat’
Trump's lawyer was calling for trial by combat during jan 6th

>>1531259
if trump didn't want the attack to happen, why didn't trump send in the military when the capitol was attacked?

>>1531264
>Hey btw if he disapproved of this so much why did he pardon all of them?
I asked myself the same question about the Hunter Biden pardons

>>1531294
you should ask yourself why you're a shill

>>1531294
when did hunter biden attack the capitol?

>>1531293
>why didn't trump send in the military when the capitol was attacked?
He did.

>>1531291
I'm sorry I answered your question too well.

>>1531297
Source?
It doesn't seem like trump was the one who sent them in from what I can tell.


https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/09/politics/jan-6-hearing-takeaways-thursday/index.html
>The committee also showed new video from its interview with Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley saying Pence was the one who ordered National Guard troops to respond to the violence on January 6

>>1531299
i didn't ask you anything. why would i ever ask for your objectively wrong opinion

>During his first public remarks since taking over the Russia investigation two years ago, Mueller made clear that he never considered indicting Trump, regardless of the findings of his investigation, partially because a 1973 Office of Legal Counsel memorandum prevented him from doing so.


>That memorandum, issued in the midst of the Watergate scandal, meant that “charging the president with a crime was therefore not an option we could consider,” Mueller said Wednesday. The memo itself is not law, but it is the Justice Department’s binding interpretation of law governing its own conduct.

https://rollcall.com/2019/05/29/this-obscure-1973-memo-kept-mueller-from-considering-a-trump-indictment/

>>1531296
If Joe Biden disproved of what Hunter Biden was doing so much why did he pardon everything Hunter did going back to 2014.

>>1531303
if you're obsessed with the bidens, why wouldn't you complain about them regardless of what happens

>>1531303
what things did hunter biden do? are you talking a bout smoking crack or something else?

>>1531304
That's a fair criticism, if you're obsessed about Trump why wouldn't you complain about Trump regardless of what happens. It's simplistic thinking just to blame the president

>>1531306
if someone robs a bank and you complain about it, nobody considers it obsession. the more you know, esl shill

>>1531303
Better question is: why did he pay for his son's whores?

>>1531308
why did trump's dad do that. very good question

>>1531309
toddler-tier comeback.

>>1531309
You know, with the amount of posting you do on this board, it might be a good change to post something substantive one of these days.

it's too bad esl shill is too dumb to convincingly pretend to be several people at once

>>1530970
I think it's funny that you think both Trump and Putin won in political coups when they were popularly elected

>>1530952
It is kinda insane a supposedly "western democracy" has suspended elections for 2 years. It would be unheard of anywhere else in europe.

>>1530958
Many ethnic Russians live within ukraine, Moscow is obviously concerned about their fair democratic representation as the ukrainian state is increasingly criminalizing being Russian.

>>1531318
>Putin
>popularly elected
lol
lmao

>>1531319
They're being invaded and bombed. The rest of Europe isn't getting invaded and bombed.

>>1531320
If Moscow was concerned about the many ethnic Russians living in Ukraine then they wouldn't be bombing them.

>>1531320
>Many ethnic Russians live within ukraine,
hopefully the war will end soon so Ukraine can get an exterminator

>>1531322
>If Moscow was concerned about the many ethnic Russians living in Ukraine then they wouldn't be bombing them.
NTA
Ukraine spent six years bombing citizens in separatist Donbas first. They tried to kill members of the Orthodox clergy too.

>>1531325
>NTA
LOL

>>1531326
Calm your nervous laughter, please.

>>1531325
That's irrelevant, Ivan.

>>1531274
>Admitting trump conspired with the Russians.
GG no RE

>>1531338
If Trump said during his speech "God if you're listening win me this election" prove Trump is colluding with our lord and savior Jesus Christ?

>>1531342
He didn't do that, he instead conspired with the Russians.

>>1531343
https://youtube.com/shorts/xV8Zuf4mNi0

it is dangerous right now and could lead to civilian war what is maybe the goal?

>what is maybe the goal?
mostly making fun of the retarded esl shill as they shit out pro Israeli pro Russian propaganda

>>1531389
It's not like being pro Palestine pro Ukraine makes sense
>I like when Ukraine defends itself against foreign aggression but I don't like it when Israel defends itself against foreign aggression

>>1531392
It does to non autistic, non esl shills