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How Canada could hit back to hurt the US economy - and Trump

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c05rj80ve56o

What leverage does Canada, which sells about 70% of its goods to the US, actually have in this spiralling trade dispute with its southern neighbour, who also happens to be the world's largest economy?

Canada is the top customer for 26 US states, including Maine, Michigan, and Wisconsin. And it is in the top three for 45 of the 50 American states, suggesting Prime Minister Mark Carney has room to manoeuvre in a trade fight.

For now, Carney's planned Canadian retaliatory duties are strategic "dollar-for-dollar" countermeasures focused on steel, dairy, appliances, agricultural equipment, electronics, pulp and paper - though the list is still being finalised.

Polls suggest a majority of Canadians would be unhappy if his government went in the other direction and made significant concessions to the US. That sentiment is shared by Ontario Premier Doug Ford, one of Trump's most vocal critics north of the border, who responded to the tariff threats by telling the US president to "kiss my ass".
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Energy and critical minerals

Carney noted on Saturday that Canada supplies the vast majority of US natural gas and electricity imports and about 60% of crude oil imports.

"I don't think they want us to stop sending any of that energy," he said.

Squeezing the US on energy is not in the current countermeasures, although various political officials have said explicitly it wasn't ruled out - and not all provincial premiers have been keen to use that leverage.

Ford, whose Ontario province is home to Canada's auto manufacturing industry, is open to how far the dispute could go and said that an "energy surcharge is on the table".

He briefly floated a 25% surcharge in 2025 on all electricity exports to the United States, which his government estimated would have impacted 1.5 million homes and businesses in Michigan, Minnesota and New York.

The country is also a major source of important commodities including potash - a product in fertiliser for which Canada is the world's top supplier.

"I'd love to see [Trump] run cars without any oil. I'll love to see him grow vegetables and fruit without the potash," Ford said on Monday. "President Trump underestimates us, and that's the biggest mistake."

Canada also has significant reserves of critical minerals like lithium, nickel and graphite.

The US is Canada's top destination for overall mineral exports, another point where Ottawa could apply pressure.

Ford here also took the lead, saying in an interview with the Associated Press that the US "won't get a grain of sand out of Ontario".
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Purchasing power

Canada has already proven that it can cause economic pain in the US.

Even before trade talks broke down, a decision by most provinces to ban US alcohol from liquor store shelves - in response to the first wave of US tariffs early last year - dealt a devastating blow to that industry in the US.

American wine had a significant collapse in exports, one the Wine Institute called the "most significant market disruption in decades".

US wine exports to Canada fell 78% year over year, a $357m (C$494m; £261m) loss in export value, according to government data. The distillers association reported similar numbers - saying provincial bans have caused exports of American spirits to drop by more than 70%.

That boycott remains in place in 11 of the 13 Canadian provinces and territories. The ban is a point of significant frustration for the Trump administration.

While that alcohol boycott has been put in place by political leaders, there are also grassroots decisions by many Canadians that have hurt their neighbour's economy - such as avoiding travel to the US.

Even with a slight uptick in road trips to the US in April, Canadians made 800,000 fewer trips that month compared to the same time in 2024, before Trump returned to office, according to national data.

The travel boycott has meant a loss of about C$3.3bn ($2.35bn; £1.75bn) in revenue for the US last year. Some American cities and states have appealed for Canadians to return through targeted advertisements and special deals.
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Political pressure

Timing and Canadian political will could also be a tool for negotiations.

Canadians know they will feel economic pain in this dispute - financial analysts estimated the most recent tariffs of 50% on about $20bn of Canadian imports could trim between 0.3% to 0.6% off the country's GDP in the short term.

Still, a majority in the country broadly back Ottawa's decision to drive a hard bargain against the Trump administration, and other Canadian political leaders have shown a united front.

A weekend poll from Angus Reid indicated that some 76% of Canadians support Ottawa's decision to walk away from trade negotiations even as they worry for their own job security.

The US midterm elections are fast approaching, with the economy front and centre for voters and the Republican hold on Congress looking tenuous.

Two of the biggest Senate races are in Michigan and Maine, which both border Canada and send most of their exports there.

The Yale Budget Lab calculates that under current law, Trump's global tariffs will cost American households about $1,100 annually.

Any further increase in the costs of goods and the wider impact of the trade dispute on businesses could further sour the American public on the economy.

On Monday, Carney said that US workers will be hurt by Trump's most recent threat to increase tariff on autos and auto parts from Canada to 50% after 1 January.

"What is the message sent out to the workers in Michigan, Ohio, Kentucky, Alabama? These workers depend absolutely on Canada, their largest consumer," he said, adding that Canada buys more American cars than the EU and other countries.

On CNN on Monday, British Columbia Premier David Eby noted US consumers will see the impact of the US tariffs in any number of goods.
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"If you're building a new home, on plywood, if you're replacing your floor, on veneers, if you're getting married, on cut flowers, if you're going out fishing, on fishing poles," he said.

"It is a bizarre policy for Americans. It's going to hurt them."

Ford, one of the most vocal Canadian leaders opposing the Trump administration's tariffs, also did not rule out specifically targeting Republican US states with retaliatory measures and "making sure America's economy feels the pain".

As for the coming midterms, Ford said: "If I were allowed to, I'd be down there door-knocking".
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>>1532013
Goddamnit news fuckers.
95% of plywood used and sold in the US is from the US.
Thanks for covering for Home Depot to increase prices you stupid fuckwitted media cunts.
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>it's already making miggers seethe
Good
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Ford literally has more balls than trump
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>>1532043
Yeah, the media is really the one to blame here...
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And Trump is now threatening to rename Lake Ontario to Lake America because of this
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>threaten
That's all an orange emperor with no credibility clothes can do now. Impotently.
Trump: the laughingstock of the world.
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>>1532005
All they have to do is wait two years for that fat retard to either die or suffer an inevitable electoral defeat. Less if the mid-terms result in a congress willing to actually fucking get off its ass and enforce its power of the purse.
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>>1532056
Genuinely it's fucked up that Trump is so impossible to negotiate with that we're seeing more and more "fuck it, we'll wait until he's out of office to keep talking".

You can't even blame them. There's a proven history of negotiations hitting the point of a genuine deal being about to be made, then Trump comes in and adds ridiculous demands he won't budge on that blow the whole thing up at the last minute. He did it with Canada, he did it with Iran, he did it with Ukraine, hell he did it multiple times with congress and the senate here at home. It's literally better to either wait for someone rational to come into power or bait the baby with jingling keys so he'll leave you alone if you can, because he'll always revert to his classic business instinct of trying to ratfuck the whole deal at the last moment without realizing that kind of thing doesn't fly in international agreements. He's too unstable and he's only becoming worse as time goes on.
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>>1532056
>>1532058
People had the same attitude during Trump's first term. I don't really remember Joe Biden making deals to take advantage of Trump being gone while he was president though
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>>1532059
It wasn't this bad. He's definitely gotten worse and more entitled; probably because back in his first term he had SOME traditional republican operatives in his circles who could convince him to be pragmatic or shut the fuck up a little bit. Now he's surrounded by nothing but yes-men and sycophants who enable every little impulse.
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Annexing Canada would solve most of these problems.
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>>1532062
da comrade
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>>1532063
13% of Americans when polled said they wanted the same thing. So did President Trump.
>no you don't understand saar they are ALL Rusian
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>>1532062
No comrade russia annexing your neighbours is not the answer
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Trump can't annex a part of a Monopoly board (and his own board game is a failure). Meanwhile, algae easily annexes his reflecting pool: a battle Trump can never win.
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>>1532062
Yes, we get it, conservatives cannot stop being fascist.
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As the great Ann Coulter once said, America could roll over in its sleep and crush Canada. Cuckney would do well to remember that. Real Americans are getting really sick of Canada and their thieving and scamming. Same goes for Europe. We've been taken advantage of for too long
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>>1532059
>I don't really remember Joe Biden making deals to take advantage of Trump being gone while he was president though
The establishment Dems hate power and actually using it. They've spent their entire time post-Bush trying to recreate Clinton style bipartisan politics and it's only led to 20 years of self-sabotaging and capitulating on Republicans.
They will sooner call anyone remotely left in their own party a raging Islamic Maoist Communist terrorist then give up the chance to pander to the right and potentially siphon 1% of their voter base
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The (((((establishment Dems))))) are too busy raping kids. Daily reminder Joe and Hunter Briben gang raped children in Ukraine
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>Ukraine
A reminder that the Hypocrite Republican that is the 100% projecting chomo 1532111 is too busy being a supporter of an actual pedo, Vladimir Putin:
https://www.military.com/video/off-duty/odd/akward-moments-with-vladimir-putin/3129473236001
https://i.postimg.cc/DwTxmsCC/pedo-putin.jpg
>b-b-but those I don't like are pedos because I say so!
Accusations are Admissions, pedo defender.
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>check leaflands's tariffs
>50% on video game consoles
>Nintendo/Playstation manufacture in China and Vietnam
>Xbox manufactures in Mexico
What are they even tariffing?
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>>1532125
100% of chomos are... well you know the rest, right?
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>>1532126
Canada stonk! Canada get dRumpf!
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>>1532127
LGBT. child predators always end up being trannies, gays, or their supporters.
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esl shill is projecting again
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>>1532127
>100% of chomos are... well you know the rest, right?
And projecting rightists such as 1532111 1532129 are the 100% of chomos
1532111
>Joe and Hunter Briben gang raped children in Ukraine
1532129
>b-b-but those I don't like are pedos because I say so!
https://www.military.com/video/off-duty/odd/akward-moments-with-vladimir-putin/3129473236001
Accusations are Admissions, pedo supporter.
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>>1532129
*LGBTQ.
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>>1532062
ahh yes lets raise the minimum wage of canadians to do the exact same thing we''re paying them less for.
the same company pays its canadian employees less just for being across the border
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you know what would've helped if the current liberal party didn't give germany and japan the middle finger when they came looking for a crude oil deal that would've let leafland be less dependant on US.
but no they had to say no and try to sell them on fucking hydrogen and who did germany go to for the crude oil next? US
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>>1532138
Leafs get taxed out the ass too.
Watching mutts bitch about the small amount of tax they have to pay is laughable.
Where does that tax money even go? Certainly not towards our healthcare system; a good chunk of the country has no family doctor and wait times are around 12 hours if you go to a hospital.
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>>1532138
>raise the minimum wage
I said annex, not turn them into a state.
Almost a quarter of their populace isn't even native-born, who the fuck would want to give them voting rights.
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>>1532155
Alright I double checked, US territories do actually have minimum wage laws.
Please disregard I'm retarded.
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>>1532155
You're definitely a solid argument that foreigners are out to ruin America
But you can fix that yourself with a bathtub and a toaster.
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>>1532059
Biden was getting plenty of shit done, they just didn't scream it to the heavens so the average joe never noticed.
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>>1532162
Briben was gang raping kids alongside his son and Obama. They turned the white house into the court of Caligula. That is literally the only thing they "got done"
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>>1532169
we get it esl shill, you're a pedophile
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>>1532170
3.5 million files released by Trump
0 by Joe biden
dems are pedo protectors
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esl shill is once again trying to spin a congressional order (that trump still hasn't fulfilled) as something trump did voluntarily
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>>1532171
This is only because 100% of chomos are LGBTQ.
And liggerals are so desperate for an LGBTQ president, they're trying to make Trump the first one.
Someone post the Rudy in drag video again.
Make sodomy illegal again!
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and now esl shill is talking to himself, again. he must not have had a father figure
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>>1532170
>>1532173
>>1532176
Time for a reminder that even 4chan has standards and your shitspam doesn't meet them?
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no rupees for esl shill
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>>1532175
>Grab him by the mussy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LOUHO7SVPM
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>>1532169
That didn't happen.
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>Briben
>kids
>dems
>liggerals
>LGBTQ
1532181
>your shitspam
>your
The duality of the hypocrite.
If those - and other - words never appear in /news/ again, then you're not a shitspammer with zero integrity. If you so much as mention those and any other used by you again here and in any other thread, you're a hypocrite 1532181.
>saying others are "shitspammers"
Accusations are Admissions.
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>>1532058
He did all this back in his first term, and people STILL voted him back in. Americans deserve Trump to take them all to the poor horse and concentration camps.
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https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-inconsolable-over-canadas-refusal-to-bend-the-knee-in-trade-war-he-started_n_6a8da512e4b07583705b6ed9
Not looking good for the bad guys given Canada is standing up the pedophile bully trump.
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People cant tell the difference between a politician who is incompetent and one who is blatantly EVIL.Trump has a gleeful sadism in bullying and attacking people and countries. A guy who built his brand off the phrase "you're fired". Which he does to anyone who either disagrees with him, or outlives their usefulness. Who sells cruelty and malice as macho, and scamming people as a shrewd business tactics. Pedophillia? Epstein? Never heard of him. Do a whataboutism on everyone else but him. All he has to do is do is invisible accordion gestures, and people believe anything he tells them.
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>>1532239
To be fair many politicians deserve o be bullied.
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>>1532239
The problem is conservatives embrace being cruel and see it as a feature they support. It's why you should not trust anyone who claims republicans are secretly against him, they all 100% what he's doing and should be held accountable if we get anything not right wing in power again given Biden was a disaster in that point.
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>>1532241
lol
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>>1532241
I'm sorry you weren't born a woman and will never ever be on, I truly am.
But when was the last time anyone left wing was in power?
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>>1532244
>>1532245
>samefagging on /news/
You ain't fooling anyone ESL shill.
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>>1532247
This is what samfagging looks like
>>1532239
>>1532241
And this is what newfagging looks like:
>>1532247
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>>1532005
BBC is fake news known for trash reporting.
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>>1532239
To be fair, Trump is both incompetent and evil. He's the full package.

>>1532254
No, they're not.
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>>1532151
emergency room is like an 12+hour wait, if you're lucky you get to go in on the same day if not you'll have to wait 24hours and all you get for that wait is a callback.
My sister's professor literally died in the waiting room from a hemorrhage. Its even worst in shit provinces like quebec where a massive chunk of tax dollars is being used for a fucking nazi style language police.
Theres' also a shit ton of fraud in canada because of all the free tax money going around, there's 1 dental clinique every 3 blocks where I live with the vast majority having no actual dentists.
provincial construction companies literally stall on work to bill extra hours because the government hands it out like candy.

Canada literally had a police officer in toronto who used the database to stalk people he met at gyms, stalked his ex and drove a car into her new partner's and the guy's still a police officer.

>>1532155
US cunts keep saying they want to take over Canada and don't realize they'd actually be upping the salaries they'd be paying to contractors.
Do you realize if you annexed canada you'd literally be inviting a 12-15% of your population in immigration to be allowed legally to go all across the US? The vast majority are indians. Remember that indian who got a drivers license in cali got a truck and killed 2 people by driving recklessly enjoy your safe streets.
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>>1532273
>Canada literally had a police officer in toronto who used the database to stalk people he met at gyms, stalked his ex and drove a car into her new partner's and the guy's still a police officer.
Yeah because here in the US we NEVER have police misuse official resources and commit crimes yet only get a demotion.
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>>1532241
This. The hallmarks of being a conservative are being an ignorant shithead, being proud of it and having a crybaby meltdown anytime someone points out what an awful human being you are.
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>>1532276
Interesting that the hallmarks of being a liggeral are a holier-than-thou attitude, a feeling of moral superiority, and the willingness to be evil "for the greater good".
It's more of a cult or terrorists than a political ideology at this point.
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>>1532274
have you heard of a police officer doing all that and keeping his job in the US? the guy literally used police resources to stalk people.
US has murders and all but usually they fire the stalker types.
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>>1532276
the hallmarks of being a democrat is to self-project and be the most heinous person imaginable but have 0 self-awareness of it and just claim everyone against you is some evil racists.
Look at post kirk shooting I bet you were out celebrating about having murdered someone but remember you're the good guys lmao
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>>1532279
>holier-than-thou attitude

You get to be that when you aren't fucking evil.

>>1532286
Yeah, I didn't shed any tears over the piece of shit who said mass shootings were just a thing that had to happen because of the 2nd amendment. Asshole died for asshole world he believed in, wish more conservatives would follow suit.
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>>1532276
The morally inferior projecting liggy miggy piggy esl shill that is a member of an anti-Democrat terroristic cult is having a crybaby meltdown.
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>>1532290
>You get to be that when you aren't fucking evil.
lol. OK
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Trump: The US doesn't need anything from Canada

Canada supplies 12 million tonnes of potash to the US farming industry
Canada supplies all of the aluminum that the US needs
Canada supplies electricity, gas & oil to the US
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>>1532298
>Canada supplies electricity, gas & oil to the US
There's only a few like FA-GG-YS.
There's no decent states that Canada supplies power to.
Also we have the other resources.
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>>1532290
1532295's mere existence proves it is inferior to everyone else
Those who are non-Democrats are evil, ergo inferior. All those who are Democrats are superior, thus holier-than-non-Democrats.
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>>1532301
Sounds like you've proven my point about being a terrorist cult tbqh.
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>the likes of 1532302 would do more than just regard anyone not exactly like it as inferior if it had any political power
>if the likes of 1532302 can't take being considered inferior, it never had the right to dish it out in the first place
>simple solution for 1532302: don't be what it is in /news/
Sounds like you've proven my point about being in a terrorist cult to be quite honest, 1532302.
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>>1532293
>>1532295
>>1532302
Never said democrats were good. Conservatives are still evil though.
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>>1532300
>we
Hi, esl shill.
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>>1532305
Explain.
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>1532248
>Projecting
As expected of esl shill
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>>1532239
Trump is incompetent to the nth degree, a terrible fucking person in every possible regard, AND an actual moron of the sort that leaves you wondering just how the hell he's lived this long.
He's not merely unqualified, he's ANTI-qualified, going beyond just lacking the values a leader should have, instead outright having the exact opposite of those values.
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>>1532313
> an actual f***ing moron of the sort that leaves you wondering how he’s lived this long.
Animals are all dumb, so Trump fits in with them.
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>>1532313
Yet he's rich, has a big family and is he current president of USA. What have you done?
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>>1532332
i'll tell you what i haven't done: rape multiple people and bankrupt the nation
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>>1532339
>people
You need to be clearer, third world retards don't think women and children are people
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>an orange subhuman is the laughingstock of the world, is the most corrupt president in the history of western politics, and has fucked up an entire country, benefiting only himself and his billionaire buddies
I can say I'm morally superior, which is infinitely better than mere 'wealth' & 'glory'. Sic Transit Gloria Mundi. You can't take it with you. Have you been paid by Trump to glaze him, 1532332?
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>>1532332
>hes rich
LOL NO
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>>1532298
Ok but what has Canada done for Trump lately huh huh huh
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>>1532344
>subhuman is the laughingstock of the world, is the most corrupt president in the history of western politics, and has fucked up an entire country, benefiting only himself and his billionaire buddies

But enough about Joe Briben, the child rapist
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>a subhuman is the laughingstock of the world, is the most corrupt president in the history of western politics, and has fucked up an entire country, benefiting only himself and his billionaire buddies
But enough about Trump, the child rapist
>just after the 2020 election, the right wing Daily Mail referred to Joe Biden as 'The voice of reason and sanity'
Even they had the foresight to have had enough of an orange subhuman, and predicted that said orange subhuman would become the laughingstock of the world, be the most corrupt president in the history of western politics, and would fuck up an entire country, benefiting only himself and his billionaire buddies.
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>>1532151
>Where does that tax money even go? Certainly not towards our healthcare system
Actually, much of it goes to healthcare. 2 trillion, the US's biggest expense. Thanks to ACA most of it goes to FWA and props up a sysrem of hyper inflated corporate murder factories.
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>>1532402
Releasing the Epstien files sure would be nice to expose Biden then, huh?
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>>1532332
I'm not a rapist, I know what actual love feels like, and I am trusted to be around children.
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Don't forget Trump bankrupted several casinos which should be impossible since the house always wins, but in his case it loses.
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>>1532575
Why don't you work for a casino if business is so reliable? I heard there are plenty of openings in Atlantic City.
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>>1532592
>Why don't you work for a casino if business is so reliable?
>Average salary apparently tends to be $20-$40 per hour accounting for tips
Sounds good actually.
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>>1532592
Reminder: Trump's casino did fine as a casino. It went bankrupt because he was a retard and spent so much on big events, shows, and advertising that they spent more on that then they made from both them and being a casino. He literally had to get a guy whose job was to keep his rampant extravagant spending under control. Then that guy died in a plane crash and Trump immediately kept going on bigger and bigger events until he ran completely out of money.
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>>1532815
crazy foreshadowing



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