John Turscak stabbed Chauvin 22 times in the law library at the Federal Correctional Institution in Tucson, with an improvised knife, federal prosecutors said.

Turscak, 52, told correctional officers he would’ve killed Chauvin had they not responded so quickly, prosecutors said.

Turscak later told FBI agents that he’d been thinking about assaulting Chauvin for about a month because he is a high-profile inmate but denied wanting to kill him, prosecutors said.

Turscak told the agents that he attacked Chauvin on Black Friday, the day after Thanksgiving, as a symbolic connection to the Black Lives Matter movement and the “Black Hand” symbol associated with the Mexican Mafia gang, prosecutors said.

An attorney for Turscak was not listed in court records and Turscak, who has represented himself in numerous court matters from prison, remained in custody on Friday.

Chauvin, 47, was sent to FCI Tucson from a maximum-security Minnesota state prison in August 2022 to simultaneously serve a 21-year federal sentence for violating Floyd’s civil rights and a 22½-year state sentence for second-degree murder.

>>1540379
Personally, I'd just mail her family a cheap Needoh-like from Temu with a paper cutout of her face taped onto it and tell them to fuck off. She's not even worth a sealed 30th Anniversary Pokemon TCG set. Their lawyer is also retarded.

>>1540379
I'm ok with this

>>1540379
>MN
>Filled with liggeral terrorists.
Easy payday for a justified homocide.

>>1540386
They're going to settle. They always do.

>>1540379
If they do get a payout which they shouldn't. the family deserves to get mugged by black people who actually deserve the money.
Don't want to die maybe don't spend weeks harassing law enforcement then try to run one over.

>>1540386
>>1540394
MAGA says shit like this and then accuses the "left" of being violent.

>>1540402
you laughed and danced when kirk died all hands are off, if you died tomorow I'd celebrate here all the same If i knew it was you.
I don't like the guy he's a religious hardheaded nut but when one side's openly celebrating, Its clear whose a piece of shit.

>>1540409
And then they respond with this "b-but Kirk!" shit like it actually refutes anything.

>>1540421
NTA, it does. You don't get to cry about Renee being mocked after the shit you faggots pulled with Kirk. At least we're not going around vandalizing her memorials one year later on the anniversary of her death like you subhumans.

>>1540421
this thread is esl shills little safe space where they pretend they're owning libs
theres no discussion here, just a sad little faggot pretending they weren't BTFO elsewhere

>>1540422
I'm not crying about Renee being mocked, I'm calling out MAGA shits for advocating violence.

>>1540423
I know.

>>1540422
are you stupid? renee died after kirk. people are "cruel" to her and alex pratti because of the shit you dipshit pulled on kirk.
I hope you're next you deserve it. I hope Ice raids your city and sends you to some arabian rape camp.

>>1540424
>democrats advocate for violence
>surprised when people do the same thing back
>>1540423
>its NOT FAIR why are you so mean.
Renée Nicole Macklin Good died on January 7, 2026
Charlie Kirk died on September 10, 2025.
maybe if you weren't such pieces of shits we wouldn't be laughing but you fucking started this and I hope you're next
what a fucking retard

>>1540429
Libs will never be forgiven for not making fun of Kirks death and justifying MIGA retardation.

>>1540428
>democrats advocate for violence
Where?
Even if we pretend MAGA is 100% right and everyone on the “left” was celebrating Kirk’s death, celebrating a murder is not equivalent to calling for further murder, nor does it justify it.

>>1540379
She needs to understand that ICE is allowed to murder us at any time and this is necessary to protect us from Muslims

>>1540434
>"You need conservatives to be afraid of getting killed when they go to events, so they look to their leadership to turn down the temperature." - Destiny after the Trump assassination attempt.
I'm sorry you were saying some bullshit about how the left doesn't do this and furthering murder blah blah blah.

>>1540434
so its fine for me to celebrate renne and alex pratti, terrorists being gunned down k thx for agreeing with me glad we agree now, I hope you're next.

>>1540434
>celebrating a murder is not equivalent to calling for further murder, nor does it justify it.
celebrating a murder is justification, you are directly saying you agree with it or are happy it happened, it doesn't matter what bullshit you pull afterwards about oh murder is bad but at least it happened to a person I hate so soo happy.
If you watch any leftist influencer you automatically are culpable I don't even blame them I blame their audience directly. that's been especially the case post kirk and post the attempted one on trump.

if you're a democrat you deserve the same fate as what you wished happens to your opponent. IDC if you yourself personally never said it the fact that you continue to ally with them is enough to brand you, in the words of your own leftist hemisphere "viable targets". If Kirk was an extreme right-wing figure for talking to people then Renne and alex Pratti were by all definitions extreme domestic terrorists and it was a justifed shooting to anyone who isn't a double standard hypocrite.

>>1540441
No, I wasn’t.
That’s shitty, but that’s not what MAGA talks about when they try to justify violence. It’s all “you laughed and danced when kirk died” and “At least we're not going around vandalizing her memorials.”

>>1540449
destiny and hasan are mainstream enough that their audience represent a core part of the democrat socialist movement. but there's barely any point bring up individual statements they've said because they're effectively gone as far as justifying murdering people who vote against the democrat party.
Most people have a filter, democrats and especially radicalized democrats in that demographic don't. And before anyone goes but they're just an influencer, Hasan is the biggest political streamer pushed by the biggest streaming site in the world is given preferential treatment to the point twitch staff members celebrated his party and has repeatedly justified telling his audience of hundred of thousands why terrorism murder and rape is justified.

I'm keeping it nice and short for you, you people did it to kirk, you deserve it to happen to your heroes. I didn't laugh when george floyd died, I didn't make a joke about how he deserved it for holding pregnant women hostage and was a massive drug addict. But if it happened today I would absolutely do all those things.

>>1540452
you're the nazis being punished atm you had control for the last 4 years and now you're going to be 6 feet under without anyone giving a damn.

>>1540451
>destiny and hasan are mainstream enough that their audience represent a core part of the democrat socialist movement.
I’m not even going to read the rest of this. You’re full of shit, and it doesn’t refute my point.

>>1540434
https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/2001013799533600921
maybe stop harassing old ladies working at walmart over wearing a kirk shirt hmm?
or is that your kink too, pretty much all political violence has been from the last in the last 4 years. leftists will always cite SPLC as a coverup despite the fact SPLC doesn't even classify antifa as a group and therefore doesn't track any incidents from anyone who claims to be a member.

>>1540454
Ok so you're a dipshit bigot who deserves to die then, thanks for saving me the trouble I hope you have a nice protest.
Its hilarious how you keep making up shit about how we need a leftist joe rogan but when you have one whose a terrorist supporter you'll always make excuses and downplay his influence.
what a piece of shit human being

>>1540458
the person I was replying to brought up why you're so mean to poor renee, people bought up how YOU treated kirk. so its on topic and we're talking about why renee deserved the treatment she got and why so do you.

>>1540449
>That’s shitty, but that’s not what MAGA talks about when they try to justify violence.
Oh really, faggot? You want to play this "wuh-well you do it more" game? Not only do you have Destiny laughing at dead conservatives and encouraging violence, you've got Vaush telling his commie fanbase to shoot conservatives out of windows, and do I need to waste my time pulling up all the shit that dog-abusing fuck Hasan has said? Those are three of your left-wing thought leaders, plus you got cowardly low level fucks like Whick TV that tell their audience they have a "moral obligation" to obstruct ICE and comparing them to rapists. So you can suck my fucking cock, trying to act like your side doesn't encourage and justify violence routinely.

>>1540460
>Oh really, faggot? You want to play this "wuh-well you do it more" game? Not only do you have Destiny laughing at dead conservatives and encouraging violence, you've got Vaush telling his commie fanbase to shoot conservatives out of windows, and do I need to waste my time pulling up all the shit that dog-abusing fuck Hasan has said? Those are three of your left-wing thought leaders, plus you got cowardly low level fucks like Whick TV that tell their audience they have a "moral obligation" to obstruct ICE and comparing them to rapists. So you can suck my fucking cock, trying to act like your side doesn't encourage and justify violence routinely.
You sound really butthurt.

>>1540463
sealioning is a sign of low IQ and narcissism. as expected of a democrat shill.
you deserve the same fate as renee

>>1540379
The family should have to pay the government for cleaning up their fucking mess and for the bullets.
They should handle this like they'd handle a wrongfully killed pet as LGBTQs aren't even human and should be aborted.

>>1540473
Is Ukraine winning?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuTA5CqtRvo
Gimme a timestamp for when Ukraine started winning

Exactly.
You're a russian because I say so
Ukraine is winning because I say so
Trump is a pedo because I say so

right I forgot to mention
You are going to die because I say so
I am God, I have power over life and death.

>>1540473
Ban evading spammer needs another break.

Jannies need to wordfilter "esl shill" to stop this ban evading spammer

>>1540487
No shit. Add it to the spam list like "go back"

>>1540488
What in the fuck are you talking about?

>>1540492
Not my post. But I hope it happens to you.

>>1540495
Look, if you're on meds check with your psychiatrist to have them adjusted.
If you're not on meds get on meds.
I honestly don't understand why you even post here 16 hours a day every day. You've never made one decent post, nor have you ever offended anyone.

>>1540497
Give me more ammo please.

>>1540490
Your perception that everyone who disagrees with you is called "esl shill" is a paranoid delusion, take your meds

>>1540494
So you don't post rape & murder you just endorse it and hope it happens to people that disagree with you politically online

>>1540468
>The family should have to pay the government for cleaning up their fucking mess and for the bullets.
>They should handle this like they'd handle a wrongfully killed pet as LGBTQs aren't even human and should be aborted.
You sound really, really butthurt.

>>1540506
When it comes to trancel losers shitting up the board, yes I do support raping and murdering (You). I'll also pay a $1 bounty for your worthless head on a platter.

>>1540506
sounds like a typical democrat

>>1540382
The fuck does that Chauvin fag have to do with this

>>1540569
Nothing. Lefties trying to deflect like they always do.

>>1540379
Thanks trump for costing us even MORE fucking money. Running the country like all of his business.
STRAIGHT INTO THE GROUND

>>1540592
How much money did Trump cost america with this?

>>1540594
29 billion a year, plus whatever they have to pay out to the families of those killed.

>>1540426
>>1540444
>>1540448
how was alex pretti a domestic terrorist?
He was unarmed and subdued by a bunch of guys when they publicly executed him:

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/29/us/immigration-agents-shooting-alex-pretti-invs

>>1540394
> spend weeks harassing law enforcement then try to run one over.
she didn't do that

>>1540600
https://nypost.com/2026/01/08/us-news/renee-nicole-good-was-minneapolis-ice-watch-warrior-who-trained-to-resist-feds-before-shooting/
Good, who moved to the city last year, linked up with the anti-ICE activists through her 6-year-old son’s woke charter school, which boasts that it puts “social justice first” and prioritizes “involving kids in political and social activism,” multiple local sources said.

“She was a warrior. She died doing what was right,” a mother named Leesa, whose child attends the same school, told The Post at a growing vigil where Good was killed Wednesday.
ICE Watch recently shared an Instagram post of the group’s that encouraged agitators to bring items that would help them barricade the streets around where the shooting took place, even urging people to bring things to burn, such as dried-up Christmas trees.

This call for aggressive and even violent resistance comes as ICE agents have faced an unprecedented spike in car attacks, surging by some 3,200% over the last year, shocking data released by the Department of Homeland Security revealed to The Post.

Federal officials said violent “radical rhetoric from sanctuary politicians” is to blame for vehicular attacks against ICE agents skyrocketing between Jan. 21, 2025, and Jan. 7, 2026 — 66 attacks were recorded during that period compared to just two the year before.

In October, US Border Patrol agents shot an armed woman in Chicago who attempted to run over agents with her car after a group of activists “boxed in” agents with 10 cars.

Last month, a federal judge dropped the charges against the woman, Marimar Martinez, who survived the shooting.

Good, a 37-year-old stay-at-home mother of three who dabbled in poetry, was shot in the head and killed as she sped her SUV in the direction of two immigration officers who were conducting an enforcement operation just south of the city’s central business district.

>>1540600
if renee was a serial killer you'd still support her just because of ur TDS she did everything i listed and I'm tired of you uneducated illinformed retards not bothering to research.
Her parents should be charged for raising a domestic terrorist not rewarded. send them the cleaning bills and everyone who donated to their gofundme deserves to be put on a watchlist

>>1540599
>Unarmed
Stinky.

>>1540599
Terrorism is defined as politically motivated violence.
He physically fought with ICE agents three times. The second time it happened he smashed up their car. On the third time he brought a concealed firearm without a proper license.
Kirk just wanted to talk to people. Pretti and Good who got psyopped by leftists into thinking they could physically fight with ICE.

>>1540434
>celebrating a murder is not equivalent to calling for further murder, nor does it justify it.
It's open celebration of terrorism.
Remove the Left versus Right false dichotomy for a moment. Remove the fact that it was Charlie Kirk that died and his shooter was a tranny chaser.
Open advocacy for the deaths of people based on the words they say is some real totalitarian shit. Those retards putting Kirk memes in their LinkedIn pages would gladly put Americans against the wall if they had the political power and opportunity.

>>1540621
No I don't. Who died?

>>1540622
NTA
He means Trump celebrating the death of Robert Mueller. The guy who tried to paint Trump as a Russian spy, and even after finding no evidence of a crime, unironically stated that the report doesn't exonerate him from the accusations of sedition and treason.

>>1540626
I thought he was talking about Rob Reiner and Trump making the joke about Trump Derangement Syndrome.

>>1540626
>>1540628
Both were complete dicks to him. Mueller knew, just as everyone else involved, that the Russiagate shit was fake and gay,

>>1540591
Stop being a faggot, faggot.

>>1540599
>illegally carrying a firearm
Many such cases on the left.

>>1540636
>you don't get to murder people for not having their ID.
Didn't happen. But I do find it amusing how you retarded lefties keep breaking the law and then cry like victims after you get what you deserve.

>>1540640
Whatever the fuck that means, esl shill bot.

>>1540635
even Fox news disagrees with you:
https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/ice-shooting-alex-pretti-minneapolis-raises-2nd-amendment-questions-regarding-cpls
>Minneapolis Police confirm Alex Pretti was a lawful gun owner with a valid permit to carry a firearm and did not have a criminal record.

>>1540626
>unironically stated that the report doesn't exonerate him from the accusations of sedition and treason.
because he wasn't allowed to accuse trump of a crime.
>And second, the opinion says that the Constitution requires a process other than the criminal justice system to formally accuse a sitting President of wrongdoing.
https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/speech/special-counsel-robert-s-mueller-iii-makes-statement-investigation-russian-interference

see also:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mueller_report
>The report states that Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election was illegal and occurred "in sweeping and systematic fashion",[10][11][12] and was welcomed by the Trump campaign as it expected to benefit from such efforts.

>>1540636
>You don't get to
Anon, the Federal Government is the supreme adjudicator of force in this nation, they can murder anyone they want for any reason. Its not about what people 'get to' or 'not get to' do, nobody else here has a military to realistically offer any resistance. Any attempt to disassemble those powers in the courts is just going to get the courts' power revoked and destroy whatever is left of the illusion of Republic.

If you actually lived in America, you would understand that. There's a delicate balance here with a lot of compromise between the Fed, the States, and the Individual. As long as we all mostly ignore each other and go about our business, that balance is maintained, but people like OP Related are the closest anyone gets to destroying the Constitution, having it thrown out because they can't stop bitching about the poor immigrants. They're leaving, either on a plane or in a box, there's no stopping that. You can either bitch about it or get out of the way, neither option is going to keep it from happening. Alternatively you can fuck around and find out. She fucked around and found out.

>>1540691
>Interference
>Twitter and Facebook posts.
Democrats should be investigated for interference in that case.

>>1540690
>with a valid permit to carry a firearm
>that he did not have on him
Hey guess what you're required to have on you to concealed carry a firearm in Minnesota.

>>1540815
>that he did not have on him
Is that true?

>>1540379
>lawyers for Good’s family said in a statement. “It was the predictable result

>>1540822
>of a coordinated campaign by senior officials in this administration to target Minnesotans of Somali or Hispanic origin and silence anyone who dared to raise their voice in protest.”
You missed some text there, friend.

>>1540704
>they can murder anyone they want for any reason
that's not how democracies (or republics for that matter) work, retard-kun
we have something called "rule of law"

>>1540824
lol pop politics is strange.
Can we get an LGBTQCE please?

>>1540591
Speak for yourself, motherfucker.

>>1540815
Whats the punishment for not having thtpermit on you? Is it death?

>>1540704
>the Federal Government is the supreme adjudicator of force in this nation, they can murder anyone they want for any reason.
>If you actually lived in America
NTA. You are confusing the ability to use force with the authority to lawfully exercise it.
The founding fathers built a government of the people, by the people and for the people, successfully fighting the most powerful empire on the planet. You're claiming might makes right, an idea they explicitly condemned such that they created a constitution to limit and divide governmental power.
The audacity you have to claim someone else isn't American while posting the antithesis of american government is insane. You are a profoundly unserious person.
>They're leaving, either on a plane or in a box, there's no stopping that.
It'd be easy to stop you fucking simpleton, we're spending multiple billions on ICE, it'd be like if I asked you to stop punching yourself in the face.
What is your argument here? Is it based on practicality? You think immigrants are costing american jobs? The right wing admin is importing immigrants with work visas to take high-paying jobs that could go to americans. Have fun picking fruit for pennies, moron. You think they're a drain on social services? They aren't, they don't get social services and they pay taxes they don't get returns on. They also bring economic growth, because to live here they need stuff, and we can sell it to them.
Then are you going to pivot to a moral argument? If we create a pathway to citizenship, it isn't fair for people who came here the right way? They didn't follow the rules? What are you, autistic? Let's change the fucking rules that make us punch ourself in the proverbial face then, and create a pathway to citizenship for nonviolent civil offender, like the vast majority of the country wants. We don't need to be abducting fully integrated people out of their communities, to say nothing of the literal American citizens we've deported.

>>1540857
>You're claiming might makes right, an idea they explicitly condemned such that they created a constitution to limit and divide governmental power.
lol.

Washington fought a war against the tyranny of excessive taxation, and then went on to lead a military force against Pennsylvania farmers because they objected to a tax on whiskey, regardless of the blatant hypocrisy.

Violence is the supreme authority by which all other authority is derived. The Constitution and its associated federal laws are the government telling you 'cross this line and we will inflict violence upon you'. There is no mechanism which actually limits the power of government, the government does that itself because it has the luxury to do so.

>You think immigrants are costing american jobs? The right wing admin is importing immigrants with work visas to take high-paying jobs that could go to americans.
>They also bring economic growth, because to live here they need stuff, and we can sell it to them.
It is true that immigrants provide GDP growth. It is also true that the American Right is full of boomers that have nothing but contempt for the younger generations of American citizens.

But time marches forward, and all those American citizens who were told they were losers after repeatedly being passed over for immigrants will remember who said what.

>>1540857
2/?
>Then are you going to pivot to a moral argument? If we create a pathway to citizenship, it isn't fair for people who came here the right way? They didn't follow the rules? What are you, autistic?
The government has a duty first and foremost to protect and maintain the welfare of its citizens. This is a primordial truth that originated from the earliest men and their desire to create tribes.

Boomer politicians treating American citizens like equally exchangeable units of economic production that can be switched out for foreign laborers is fundamentally immoral, insane, and goes against everything we know about human nature. It's tantamount to selling your daughter or son in favor of a 'better' version you could purchase at a slave auction house.

Thankfully, once boomers die from old age then this insane bullshit will go with them.

>to say nothing of the literal American citizens we've deported.
Naturalized citizens aren't really citizens. Being an American citizen goes beyond touching our dirt, passing a standardized test and getting a magic piece of paper. It has to do with a sense of heritage and belonging to the land itself.

Liggerals balk and seethe at this idea because America, since the 1950's, has purposefully atomized any sense of 'belonging' to a cohesive national identity. Mutt retards that don't even know the names of their own fathers or neighbors become seriously afraid the moment someone implies that American Citizenship carries more spiritual significance than a ticket you can get at a carnival ride.

>>1540865
I am more American than you by a wide margin. Genetically, ethically, spiritually.

>>1540865
>>1540867
Can you show us evidence that you are really an american, and really have a job?
If you could post a picture of your passport and paystub you could prove you are an american with a real job once and for all

>>1540871
Every accusation is a confession. You keep repeating people are not americans, don't have a real job and are paid shills because you aren't american, you don't have a real job, and you're a paid shill.
Prove me wrong

>>1540865
>>1540867
>>1540876
Can you show us evidence that you are really an american, and really have a job?
Every accusation is a confession. You keep repeating people are not americans, don't have a real job and are paid shills because you aren't american, you don't have a real job, and you're a paid shill.

>>1540880
Do you call yourself an American?
Do you call yourself employed?
Can you prove it?

>>1540494
>>1540531
>>1540640
You sound upset

>>1540860
>>1540864
>The Constitution and its associated federal laws are the government telling you 'cross this line and we will inflict violence upon you'.
The constitution is a document that outlines the citizenry's rights and places limits on governmental power, it does literally, not figuratively, literally the opposite of what you're claiming, dumbass.
>Washington's Whiskey rebellion.
Washington used lawful federal authority to suppress an armed insurrection. That doesn't demonstrate violence is the ultimate authority you fucking dork, it demonstrates the government can enforce laws.
>It is true that immigrants provide GDP growth.
Wow, so you're admitting that removing them has negative economic consequences, on top of the exorbitant costs. Your type usually lies about how they're getting social services, color me surprised.
>American citizens actively being passed over for immigrants.
Again, this isn't happening with most immigrants, it's happening specifically with the immigrants wealthy people on the right are importing to make themselves more money.
>government has a duty to protect its citizens
Yeah, and it's actively hurting its citizens by deporting these people, which you've essentially just conceded.
>Thankfully once boomers die
We can agree on something
>Naturalized citizens aren't really citizens.
So you're not actually defending citizenship, you're defending some faggy hereditary conception of citizenship the Constitution does not recognize.
So you're telling me your conception of a perfect america is a society where citizenship is hereditary and the rule of law is meaningless because the government can choose to ignore laws it doesn't like, and enforce others with violence.
Cool.
You are a sociopath. You are not championing democracy or America, you're literally an authoritarian.
>American Citizenship carries more spiritual significance
Spirituality is a meaningless term you're using for special pleading. There's no such thing as ghosts, dipshit.

>>1540901
>The constitution is a document that outlines the citizenry's rights and places limits on governmental power, it does literally, not figuratively, literally the opposite of what you're claiming, dumbass.
The Constitution is just a piece of paper with ink on it. It isn't magic. It doesn't physically force the government to do anything it doesn't already want to do.
Thinking something ought to happen, or that it is actually happening, doesn't mean it is actually happening.
>Washington used lawful federal authority to suppress an armed insurrection.
One man's revolution is another man's insurrection. The only thing that matters is who wins out in the end because they write the history books.
>Wow, so you're admitting that removing them has negative economic consequences, on top of the exorbitant costs.
GDP growth isn't an absolute moral good. It doesn't measure human happiness or societal well-being.
Peter Thiel phasing out tech jobs with AI and Elon importing a million jeets isn't making the average American's life better. In fact, they make life demonstrably worse.
>Again, this isn't happening with most immigrants
Jobs are a scarce resource. More hands pulling from the same pot equals less for all. This is common sense.
>Yeah, and it's actively hurting its citizens by deporting these people
Illegals hurt and kill American ctizens all the time. Nobody in power cares unless illegals are hurting other illegals, or ICE is hurting illegals. This is because they exist in the United States as a disposable slave underclass.
Nobody in power cares about American citizens at all. The average American isn't even allowed to express a nationalistic, America-first political position without being accused of an -ism, because the powers-that-be fucking hate you and they know that Heritage Americans have a shame-based culture.

>>1540901
>So you're not actually defending citizenship, you're defending some faggy hereditary conception of citizenship the Constitution does not recognize.
Your understanding of the law, power and morality are infantile in the extreme.

In an ideal world, the people in power would create and enforce laws that maximize the amount of liberty each civilian has (e.g imprisoning violent rapists for being rapists), rather than restricting them through arbitrary legalistic language and useless moralizing.

Importing tens of millions of illegals that shit on the street and participate in gang culture doesn't grant American citizens more liberty. America's elites and political leaders know this to, but it's still happening, because they don't want you to be more free.

Instead Elon Musk is talking about creating robot armies and how important it is to incorporate AI systems that log our keystrokes into society, using the same AI technology that jews used to bomb kids in Gaza.

>You are a sociopath. You are not championing democracy or America, you're literally an authoritarian.
It's not sociopathic for American citizens to expect their interests adequately and equitably represented in a democratic society. It's also not sociopathic to expect that the people in your country share your ethics and goals.

Nobody tells indians, jews or mexicans that they are not allowed to value their heritage. But Americans are constantly told to love your countrymen is exclusionary and any desire to protect it from outsiders is inherently prejudicial. The double standard is constant and absolute.

> There's no such thing as ghosts, dipshit.
It's not about ghosts. It's desire to protect your land, the family you have buried underneath it, the family you have currently, and the generations that will come after you.

>>1540904
>Importing tens of millions of illegals that shit on the street and participate in gang culture doesn't grant American citizens more liberty.
Good thing that never happened then!

>>1540856
What are the odds that every leftist who gets shot by police, or by a 17 year old in Kenosha, just happens to either be committing a crime or has a record of committing crimes? It's almost like there's a theme.

Crazy how esl shill can post threads like this but the mods have decided not to let people say mean things to him. Well, we all knew 4chan was compromised

>>1540902
>>1540904
>The constitution is a piece of paper-
>expect the people in your country share your ethics and goals.
Gee, you mean by upholding the law and the fucking constitution? You're right, we should have shared secular values and it is on us to enforce them.
>GDP growth isn't an absolute moral good.
Immigrants are good for the economy and a tax benefit, those are things that make life better for people here.
>Jobs are scarce
Yes, and more people doesn't necessarily mean less jobs. We've already covered this, keep up.
>This is common sense.
Interesting, considering it's false.
>Illegals hurt and kill American citizens all the time.
Undocumented immigrants commit crimes at significantly lower rates than citizens. Most never commit a crime. I'm in favor of deporting violent criminals.
>accused of an ism.
you get accused of racism because you're a fucking racist, because you're trying to take the few people that do commit crimes and using them as a justification to deport their entire race, ya fucking inbred simpleton.
>Your understanding is infantile
solid projection from a jaded edgelord faggot. You don't understand basic economics, you think there's a static pool of jobs importing people depletes, you don't understand migrants create jobs because they have needs.
>Nobody tells indians, jews or mexicans that they are not allowed to value their heritage.
People do tell them that, that's why they need legal protections in the first place.
>America-first policy
Would imply doing things that are actually good for America..
> to love your countrymen is exclusionary desire to protect it from outsiders is prejudicial.
You literally do not do that though, you're hurting your countrymen with these policies.
>It's about protection
You're doing a fantastic job protecting your legacy from economic stability by deposing us as the global hegemon, isolating us on the world stage, and spending billions of dollars on a private army that's gutting the economy. Eat shit.

>>1540909
https://calmatters.org/justice/2026/04/bishnoi-california-extortion/
If you close your ears to the fraud it doesn't make it go away
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grooming_gangs_scandal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020s_Minnesota_fraud_scandals
It's not white people setting up grooming gangs in Britain or frad networks in Minnesota.
These are immigrant based criminal networks

>>1541040
>It's not white people setting up grooming gangs in Britain
Epstein and his best friend Trump are all white. So what's your point?

>or frad networks in Minnesota.
Trump is actively stealing billions more than any immigrant anywhere in the US or UK. So what's your point?

>>1541099
Epstein and Trump are not best friends.
Trump is not a Russian agent.
These are just lazy narratives the media used to try and smear president Trump.
What billions is trump stealing, what are you talking about? Specifically?

>>1541108
>Epstein and Trump are not best friends.
The Epstein files pretty much say they were.

>Trump is not a Russian agent.
The probability of him being a russian agent is greater than him not being one.

>What billions is trump stealing, what are you talking about? Specifically?
Have you been living in a cave with no internet for the past 2 years?
https://www.americanprogress.org/feature/trumps-take/

>>1541117
This article doesn't seem to explain how Trump is stealing. It is saying he had a 600 million dollar meme coin, that he made 1.447 billion on crypto currency, that he made profited from stable coin and selling shares, but it doesn't establish how this is theft. It is just equating Trump profiting with trump theft.
The 400 million dollar Qatari plane isn't being gifted to Trump personally, it is being donated to the office of the presidency, the next president can use it if he wants.

>>1541121
>This article doesn't seem to explain how Trump is stealing.
If you do not understand simple concepts like a crypto rug pull, you should maybe stop trying to debate people on the internet, because you look like a gigantic ignorant doofus.