It's springtime! Post your truck, discuss your favorite trails, or blog post about repairs/modifications. Want a hobby that will attract hot babes? Look no further!Previous thread: >>28909340
Time to kick the beehive!Jeeps are fucking gay zoomer retard versions of Landrovers
>>28936368>Time to kick the beehive!>>28936348>hot babesShe's OK but kinda scrawny.
>>28936348Sticc
Is offroading about the vehicles or is it about the /out/?If it’s about the /out/ I don’t really get it. Once you take away the places that are served by roads, the places you aren’t allowed to drive, and the places you can’t get to even with a 4x4, how much is really left? Seems like if you want to get away from things you would be better served by driving a sedan to where the asphalt ends, getting out, and walking orthogonally to the ohv trail.If it’s about the vehicles themselves and pushing them on difficult terrain I can get that. But it seems a waste as a way of getting to nature.
>>28936493Both. Wheeling itself is fun and so is camping.
>>28936493>how much is really left?Depends on the terrain. If you like deserts and beaches, there are plenty of remote places you can drive your 4x4.Even in rural areas in Europe, it's not that hard to get remote. A couple of weeks ago, my neighbor told me about plots for sale (he had just bought one) in a little settlement of about half a dozen off-grid houses in the middle of a Army training range near our town. It's accessible by two unpaved roads, one 4x4 only and one that's passable by normal cars when dry. On the weekend, we loaded up the kids in the car and drove out there to take a look. After we got to the edge of our town and onto the sandy 4x4 track going to the village, the only people we saw in three hours of driving were a small group of soldiers walking along the road. They were doing a FTX and got lost. I loaned them my table so that they could get MGRS coordinates and figure out where they were.
Anyone here have a lifted 4runner or Tacoma that can help me decide on a tire size?
>>28936563What gen
>>28936348That's a man (I can tell by the bulge)
>>28936563I've got 275/70-17's
>>28936585What do you have for a lift?>>289365722ndI have between 2-2.5" in the front, more in the back. 265/75/16s fit on the truck stock. There doesnt seem to be any consistency, some people trim, some people don't
>>28936618Sorry, I'm retarded, they are 285/70-17's, on a 2nd gen Tacoma with roughly 2.5"-3" of lift, King coilovers and dakar springs in rear. Had to remove front mudflaps and trim a tiny bit on the corner of the fender flares.
>>28936440Hardly any jeeps for that matter
>>28936637But they ARE on the list.So is Porsche BTW.Landrover won Dakar (in its class) for the first time in Dakar this year.>9+ hours behind a Dacia Sandrider, Ford Raptor, Hilux>3 hours behind a KTM bike>3 hours behind a Polaris SxSImagine being "the ultimate offroad machine" and losing to the same company's grocery getter that originally sold for 1/4 the price and was built in some giys shed.
>>28936348Homosexual shit in op
>>28936632Get skinny tyres on that underpowered trug.Your effective ground patch on a 285 vs a 255 is the same until like 2psi; the 285s gets like 1% more contact area.
>>28936756Why didn't you make the thread?
Ok chuds, am I regarded for wanting picrel? Series 2 1999 TD5 with 168,000km / 104390 miles in ostensibly good condition.
>>28937245I owned a TD5 defender, had lots of them in the extended circle of friends. 99 being an early one is the 10P motor which has plastic head dowels - over time the head will shift, it blows the gasket and wipes out the edge of the valves on the bore if it goes far enough. Has to be replaced with the metal ones. 10p TD5 also has the fuel return gallery through the head which when they get hot they very often crack, so DO NOT let it overheat. The 15P fixed this. The temp gauges read in the middle until you get to like 115c at which point its already exploded.The auto gearboxes are trash and let all the gears out often, especially if you put big tyres on or tune it.If its manual its a dual mass flywheel and if you clutch dump it hard the pressure plate can fall apart. Happened on my Defender not long after I sold it. Pretty funny.They respond great to tuning. Once the head dowels are changed, hybrid turbo and a tune flashed on and you'll be blown away.Hmmm other things that can go wrong on them - the thermostat is pretty common. You need a special diagnostic tool, a nanocom, to communicate properly and do everything in the ECU. Regular scanners will not work properly.The front end balljoints are very common to fail as they get to this age, and they're an absolute cunt to do.They're terrible cars if you just want to drive and never have to work on it. Get an 80 series if that's the case. But if you put in the maintenance, I like them.
>>28937259Ok thanks for your input. Sounds like it will be a bit of a headache and it is an auto which is a shame. I kinda just want to use it periodically for camping or towing and not stress about it too much so I'll probably keep looking. It is museum piece level nice though most of the ones I see are totally clapped.
>>28937268Ah it's one of those things that if you get a good one that's had maintenance done, they're really good, but if you get a bad one its bad. The best ones are the facelift, the D2A, they had the best motor. It's also one of those things that once you own one and fall in love with it you'll never consider anything else. Stockholm syndrome
>>28937268Get an xj Cherokee then
Good deal on these
>>28939059Ausfag so these are in short supply where I live. We have heaps of goated Jap stuff tho so 90 series prado or NL Pajero is probbably the answer. I kind of want a Landcroozer but I don't like how big they are.
>>28941550How much are the 120s? Shame you dont get the GOATed 2UZ
>>28936756how is a picture of a woman's ass homosexual??
>>28943476The vagina is right there, therefore the ass is gay
>>28941909depending on the land cruiser, they get the diesel engines that shit on any of the v8 engines like the 2UZ that we get in the US
>>28943818>2.8l>200hp>370 ft lbs>SCR and DPFNah you can keep it
>>28943818By shit on you mean poop?
>>28936409gx sisters.
>>28944663Hows your dash and paint? The white likes to peel
>>28944735As far as the paint, you can see it shows no signs of flaking or peeling anywhere. It has never been painted either. Its an 04 and I may have read somewhere that the white started having issues in 05. The dash never had the recall done and has only one minor crack above the instrument cluster where it protrudes out the proudest. The old couple I bought it from only used it on weekends to travel between 2 properties 500 miles apart and was otherwise garage kept. Ive never driven or ridden in anything as nice and comfortable. phenominal vehicle. I want to scoop up another one maybe in 460 flavor.
>>28943476everyone who likes women is a lesbian
>>28944890Thats good, 04 is a non interference engine too right? Id almost prefer that over the 20hp from the vtek yo.Theyre even more comfy after doing 5160+6112 coilover kit.
>>2894557303 and 04 are non vvti. toyota says it an interference engine but there are countless stories of those year 2uzs snapping the timing belt and not having any damage. The concesus is that its low intereference if any. anyhow, its a masterpiece of an engine from a time the toyota r&d engineers were being given blank checks and no time limitations. i have no intentions of lifting it or removing the air springs from the rear. i R&R'd the airbags with oem units because 21 years old. I dont want to start messing up all the angles in the driveline that the engineers have perfected for a lift. I upped the tire size 1" from factory. If I want more ground clearance down the road I will have to save money and get a set of 74weld portal sets, 37 or 38 inch tires and really be dabbing on mf's in the trader joes and whole foods parking lots. But im enjoying it as it sits for what it is.
>>28945654Lift kits are so much more than muh ground clearance. If you really wanted to do it right, you would go long travel JD fab or marlin. JD kit gets u 4" under the LCAs, if that's all you consider, forget about the pumpkins. But there are so many issues with the GX platform you have to fix, much of it because she's a fat bitch. So long travel first then your portals. But I applaud your dedication to keeping your SUV stock, you blend right in with all the other soccer Karens on the road. Real grey man type shit.
>>28944219the 1VD-FTE 4.5l has 280 horses and 480 ft lbs torque, anon
>>28945875Only on the twin turbo variant.Single turbo is 317lb/ftWhich is less than half the torque of hellcat and about 25% less than a 5.7l naturally aspirated gas hemi 1/2 ton pickup.
>>28945919>Which is less than half the torque of hellcatwhich makes sense, because it's an engine for a light duty truck, not a performance sports car>and about 25% less than a 5.7l naturally aspirated gas hemi 1/2 ton pickup.yes, a smaller engine designed to power a smaller vehicle will usually have less torque and power than a larger engine used to power a larger vehicle. i see we wore our thinking cap today
>>28945926>4.5 turbo making significantly less than an N/A 5.7 with the 5.7 having higher ft/lb per liter.Pretty sad when fucking dodge/ram is out engineering you.
>>28945975i have no idea where you're getting this idea from that i'm saying the 1VD engine can outperform a hemi or a hellcat, i never said that. my original post was about toyota diesel engines available outside the US compared to the gas v8's in US market Land Cruisers. i'm aware that a 5.7 hemi is more powerful than a engine used in a third world work truck, as is everybody. >bigger engine have bigger numberyes, we can all use google. you're a fucking moron, dude.
>>28946005You were bragging about numbers of the turbo diesel and I pointed out that a gas N/A engine has more lb/ft per liter.Diesels are supposed to have impressive torque numbers over gas. Turbos even more so.Yet a damn Stellantis pos has it beat.Explain how toyota failed at such an endeavor.
>>28946014>You were bragging about numbers of the turbo diesel and I pointed out that a gas N/A engine has more lb/ft per liter.Yes, regarding a specific class of vehicles made by Toyota. >Diesels are supposed to have impressive torque numbers over gasAgain, you're insisting on comparing apples and oranges. Engines are built and spec'd for the vehicles they're supposed to go in. If one truck weighs over 2000 pounds less than another, than the difference in torque makes sense.>Yet a damn Stellantis pos has it beat.That depends on what you think the ram engine beats it at. Numbers? Sure. Longevity? no, that toyota engine will survive 30 years being driven in the jungle and can be maintained/repaired with basic tools. that's why they're used as aid, emergency, and utility vehicles in countries that don't have roads and the ram isn't. the ram will struggle to hit 200k miles of highway driving without a serious repair. fuel efficency? no. weight? no. overall value? no. see, i can also list a ton of things the ram doesn't meet the mark on because it wasn't built to.
>>28946014presumably they're going for a lazy, understressed engine that'll hopefully last forever
>>28946034Diesels are gay and overated
>>28946034>that toyota engine will survive 30 years being driven in the jungle and can be maintained/repaired with basic toolsLol.Lmao even.Toyotafanbois actually believe this tired trope.Post Kunta Kinte's odometer and the Zimbanwean junglefax maintenance records.
>>28946083>Toyotafanbois actually believe this tired trope.What are the Taliban driving through the desert and mountains? What do they drive in Papua New Guinea, in waist-high water half the time? google earth any third world country and you'll find 20+ year old 1VD land cruisers, nearly all of them from before the 2007 facelift. the sure as shit aren't taking them to toyota dealers or licensed mechanics to keep them running, and Toyota isn't regularly shipping them parts to the moddle of fucking nowhere, so how are they doing it? i get it that people overblow toyotas engine durability with the hilux/tacoma/4runner, etc, but there's a reason people say it about the land cruiser.
>>28946105>Holy Shit!!! A vehicle from 2005 is still running ?!?!?!?!?!I have 3 domestics from the 60s....>Third world countriesYou do realize the warlords just send Achmed or Jamal into town with an AK47 and they carjack the first unlucky s.o.b. that drives by, right?But let's say that all these legit owners in New Guinea, Australia etc use these daily.They have the internet, right?So they talk on forums and post their 500,000 mile rigs, right?
>>28946187nta but it's more impressive that a car from the mid90s onward is still running vs. something pre-1990. older cars were much simpler and had far less to go wrong. new cars have tons of shit, especially proprietary plastic bits that fail after 20 years. a car from 2005 still running well is more impressive IMO. cars made in the 1960s were actually made by people who gave a shit too, not union slug [redacted]s.
>>28946187>I have 3 domestics from the 60s....Cool, cars that are like building with legos to work on that have a third of the components. Are you going to bring up that a smith corona typewriter is easier to maintain over time than a macbook now?>You do realize the warlords just send Achmed or Jamal into town with an AK47 and they carjack the first unlucky s.o.b. that drives by, right?Yes, and then they drive them out in the middle of nowhere for decades. If they've been doing it since the 80's and 90's, those vehicles are still being driven around, and they aren't brought in to Toyota of Kabul or whatever for regular service, then the point still stands.>They have the internet, right?So they talk on forums and post their 500,000 mile rigs, right?IH8MUD has tons of aussie boomers doing exactly that. Idk about forums from other countries. Are you bringing this up to say that i need to provide you piecemeal evidence of something that there have been news articles written about? or are you implying that it's less impressive if people are sharing tips online of how to maintain there vehicles?
>>28946198>>28946214ehh, there's all sorts of stories about what line workers did that'd never fly today. and much like today, those cars were also expected to be traded in after a few years. the odometers only had five digits because most people never expected them to last that long. these days a car not going for >100,000 miles is seen as actual garbageprobably the biggest difference is as you say however - simply having fewer features and gizmos means fewer things to go wrong, and when they DO go wrong, well we can repair or replace the component with something that has 50-60 years worth of knowledge and technological advancement so it lasts practically forever, or does a much better job, or both.
>>28936348>muh hawt babe on a car trash adsI hope you slam your nads in a car door repeatedly for the sheer consumerfag disrespect you continue perpetrating by scumbag kike and gook advertisers.
>>28946261take your meds lmao
>>28946268I don't think thats meds.Thats something much deeper.
>>28946301i would wreck that chick
>>28946311I have one of these.
I need new tires as mine are bald. Everything stock on this truck, I bought it brand new. I really want to get a level and put some 33's on here. Do I do it?
>>28936348>Offroad Generalhow would the general lee handle offroad?
>>28947596Pretty well if you have a couple hundred to spare.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awdxB3kml8M
>>28947226depends on what you mean by a leveling kitsome shitty spacers? nonew coilovers and rear shocks? yesi didyou need help with your yard also
>>28947610No difference between spacers and longer coil overs. He not jumping it.Coilovers are worthless unless youre doing spindle/brackets to actually change geometry.
>>28947927Spacers are garbage and drop brackets are also. Longer spindles are generally a 2wd thing. You're not fucking your geometry with proper coils. Maybe if you buy 4" rough country coils or whatever. 2-2.5" is the limit for most ifs mid setups. All he would do is raise the front 1 or 1.5 to level it out. It's ifs, you don't have to worry about all the solid axle bullshit. And you'd get rid of the garbage factory shocks.
>>28948010Lol.Theres no fundamental difference between spacers and longer coilovers you mouth breather. The A-arms dont know the difference.Its a waste of money.
>>28948054spacers over extend the shock, or can cause them to bottom out, busting the shaft. They force the coil into a less effective part of the range, giving you a stiff ride. At full droop, they will contact the spring, and overextend your upper ball. Theyre not a performance or offroad mod, its for looks only. They do no good for the ride or performance.Cleetus goes out and gets his drop bracket lift or coil spacers so he can run his 24x12 -60 offset with 3" lug spacers on rubber band Venoms around the walmart parking lot on a friday night and look cool, or occasionally driving in a muddy field.I get it, long travel is fucking expensive, but those mods arent the answer. Just get a nice midtravel kit if youre a brokie.
>>28948127Your post proves you dont know what the fuck youre talking about.>They force the coil into a less effective part of the range, giving you a stiff rideThat's not how springs work.Putting a spacer ontop of a spring doesnt magically compress the spring. The spring will be at the same exact compression point because the weight of the vehicle hasnt changed.>and overextend your upper ballIdentical thing happens with extended coilovers. If you increase the ride height 2" with a spacer or 2" with a longer coilover the a-arms will be in the exact same fucking position.Go back to your miata thread you clueless nowrench faggot.
>>28948143the stock shock doesnt get any longer, you stress them out that way.top plate spacers shove the entire coil down. there is no preloading with a top plate spacer, it just gets stovepiped down. Proper coilovers have longer shocks and taller coils. i just dont understand it, why would you want to run spacers when you could get some cheap 5100s and do it right? its really not much more money at all, and you already have to take the front down anyway. if youre not a retard, you install aftermarket UCAs to actually be able to use the increased downtravel extended coils give you. If you stay around 2", you dont need them. i kept the entire last thread alive with my wrenching faggot
>>28948152>top plate spacers shove the entire coil down.God damn youre a fucking moron.The spacer only lowers the mounting position. The apring compresses the same as originally. The same as a rear shackle on a leaf.I guarantee youre one of those braindead NPCs that cant even visualize an apple in your mind.
>>28948352NTA but it will effect spring pre-load because it will be partially compressed at ride height with the spacer. sorry you had to find out this way
>>28948352lol youre still pissy over that apple commentmusta hit a nerve
>>28948352nta but you're a fucking moron, keep digging mallcrawler
top mount spacers don't do anything. it's essentially a body lift. it doesnt change the spring, it doesnt change the arc, it doesn't change anything, it just lifts the body. so yes, like other anon said it's basically the same as a lift shackle.why you would ever both doing this idk.
Holy FuckingShit>a 2" spacer compresses the spring>but it also lifts the truck 2"God damn fucking space magic going on in here.
>>28947610whats wrong with spacers? I am just going up in the front 2".Also, don't attack my grass pussy. We're in a drought and not allowed to water grass.
>>28948543Actually, you know what. You win this one. I forgot I wasn't supposed to be washing my truck either but you can clearly see I had my pressure washer out.My grass is dead because I am lazy that's all.
>>28948547Grass is gay Im mossmaxxing
>>28948543Nothing wrong with them.>Put in a 2" spacer.>Truck sits 2" higher than factory.Ergo the springs are at the same exact state of compression as factory. If they were compressed you wouldnt be sitting 2" higher. There is no difference in ride quality.You wont damage the shock because youre not over extending them any amount that matters.A 2" leveling kit is actually.like 1" spacers because the spring is half way between the pivot point of the a-arm and the wheel.Youre not.going to damage the shocks
>>28948595>no difference in ride quality.the A-arms are placed into the "drooped" position, which pushed the bump more into the body instead of being absorbed fully by the suspension, leading to harsher ride>Nothing wrong with them.the ball joints will be near the max angle which isn't great, they'll wear out faster
>>28949335Identical result when using extended coilovers.Zero difference.Because the a-arm geometry never changes. Nothing has been modified so the a-arms, ball joints and spindles are in the same exact orientation when lifted by a longer coilover or by spacers.
>>28949335>ball joints will be near the max angleNot even close.Your saying that rebound articulation is only 2" from ride height.If you jack up that truck it will be wwwaaayyyyyy more than 2" of jack height before the tire comes off the ground.Youre completely clueless- its like you've never worked on a car before
>>28949379it's almost like there's always a compromise>>28949388most have IFS has like 4" so yeah it's very significant
>>28949398>compromiseI dont think you know what that word means.They have identical results.>IFS has like 4" Confirmed for never have worked on one.A Camry has more than 4"This is painful.Its like trying to explain molecules to a 3 yearold.
>>28949421>They have identical results.and they're both a compromise from stock.>A Camry has more than 4"stock 3rd gen tacoma front suspension has 8" of total travel. not entirely sure how much is downward but assuming it's near half....why are you talking our of your ass again?
>>28949605>stock 3rd gen tacoma front suspension has 8" of total travel. not entirely sure how much is downwardDude youre just reading numbers off a chart and have no clue what they mean.This is fucking hilarious.Leveling kit spacers have virtually zero effect on ride quality.It's still stock springs and suspension geometry is altered so little that on most vehicles its within design tolerances and is even offered from the factory on some trim levels.Ford offers a factory leveling kit for OP's truck that sits 2" higher and has THE SAME A-ARMS, BALLJOINTS, SPINDLES AMD MOUNTING POINTS (M-18000-F15BA).
>>28949379Not always, the Bilstiens for example
>>28949622i see you've conceded and gone from "no difference" to "virtually zero effect"you'll gradually get there. many of us have actually driven a vehicle for a long time, installed front spacers, and experience the difference in ride quality. its significant.
>>28949633How retarded are you?I guess youre an ESL shill because you cant follow a conversation worth a damn.#1)I said there is zero difference in geometry between spacers and longer coilovers.#2) I said suspension geometry is virtually unchanged with a 2" leveling kit over factory.I have a chromoly lift kit on my truck that I built before you were born.Now sit down and shut the fuck up, youre just embarrassing yourself.
>>28949623Explain to the class how a 2" longer bilstein changes geometry differently than factory + 2" spacer
>>28949679>i own this random thing therefore you're wrongi can say for certain i've owned more trucks than you will own in your life
>>28949688If thats true then explain why youre a fucking retard and cant understand the simplest concepts?You havent proven a single thing ive said as incorrect.
picrel is the worst truck i ever ownedi wouldn't consider it drivable without disabling v4 mode and tuning the transmission>>28949700there's no way to prove anything on here.i've stated my lived experience is different than your rhetoric. not sure what else there is to say
>>28949731Your "living experience" is floating by without understanding whats going on around you.You fail to grasp the simplest of suspension geometryMy "rhetoric" is actual facts.I did this for a living. Im not some backyard mechanic like you that installed some ebay lift kit once and thinks hes a master builder now with all the answers.
>>28949754you sure do assume a lot of things.i would never assume anything about you. wouldn't assume anything you say is true, either.
>come back two days later>they're still arguing about spaces vs coil overs
check out these spindle gussetsbolt on
>>28949834>no threads protrudingwhy does this happen so often?
>>28949770I drove on a similar road in a chevy cruze
>>28950136those things are stellar offroad. i needed 4-lo and my rear locker to avoid slipping
First new trail scratches of year
>>28936368>Jeep Rubicon is supposed to be the ultimate offroad machine>Has "luxury" cloth seats that will get fucked immediately when /out/>No option for a washout interior like the bronco
Henlo, I boughted a 2002 Toyota Land Cruiser. Am I an offroader now?
>>28952978nice pick, don't turn into a basedota fag doe>oh my science a heckin land cruiser??? time to consoom 6 gorillion shekels of useless shit to bolt to it!
>>28952978Pics or GTFO faggot
>>28952986noted>>28952993
>>28953004There's nothing wrong with bolting on some spacers tho. Don't listen to him
>>28953004just needs 40 grand worth of arb accessories
>>28953488kek, immediately turning it into a fucking brucemobile is hilarious
>>28936368counterpoint: Jeeps are fun and, despite constant butthurt jealousy from dipshits whose dads were too poorfag to buy them one in high school, girls fucking love them and drop their panties in them all the time.
>>28953563Same can be said about a Mustang or a Miata.Theyll also ride your dick if you show up on a Harley or with a lifted F350 diesel dually.Congrats.You fucked the same herpes whore who sucked off the dude in a Hellcat 20 minutes ago. You probably kissed her too...
is it true that the current lineup of jeeps consists of unreliable junk?
>>28953903Yes
>>28953903yep
>>28953903yea
>>28953903
>>28953903>current
>>28953903Jeeps have always been light duty>it was a Jeep thing but all that shit broke.People talked trash about the nuBronco popping tierods on mild trails but Jeeps were(are) snapping front axles in half on the same trails. We're talking about the top trim Rubicon 392.The massive aftermarket support of Jeeps was born out of necessity just to keep those things on the road.
Is this overpriced at $27500? I've been looking for a truck that i can use to get into off roading and when heavy powder days strike. I came across this 86 4runner, 22re, pretty low miles, looks very clean. I've had trouble finding something in a similar condition to get a comparable price. Is this reasonable, and if not what would you counter with
>>28953004This is from ‘02? It’s in amazing shape, the exterior anyway.
>>28936493I have a friend who goes offroading in an abandoned industrial park in Baltimore, surprising amount of holes
I've had a load of fun with this old girl, but I'm done with Big Trugg.
>>28936348https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7hxEUB6j9Qare you a stupid land rover brand guy?
>>28954701It's kino, but the 4 cylinder engine will be excruciatingly slow. You can get really sick trucks for that price. I'd be looking for something like picrel. Found these on craigslist pretty quickly.
>>28954740I'm not sure i want a bronco. I may just look at a newer 4runner instead, that one just more than i want to spend i think and feels kind of bad to start wheeling such a clean one.
>>28954748If you're actually going to wheel hard then buy a shitbox that you don't daily.
>>28954709The exterior is good and most of the interior is good except the seats which are in pretty bad condition. They have covers over then right now but I'm looking for replacements.Everything electrical and mechanical works and there is basically zero rust which is what I was looking for. Going to get it coated with woolwax ASAP.
>>28954701idk I'm too old those will forever be $4-5k cars to me.I would just get wrangler, do proper mild lift, skinny tires and maybe gears.I drive old toyota 4x4 but because I'm poor lol.
>>28954748>would rather have a newer 4runner than a Bronco or Blazer.That says a lot about who you are.You wont like the Hilux/SR5 or a Jeep either.I would suggest looking at overland specific forums and seeing what people are running.
>>28954701they are literally tin cans that rust extremely easily even in states where rust isn't an issue. plus they are DOGSHIT slow, even by 1999 standards.
How long do these xterra last? This 04 xterra se 3.3L V6 is at $5k with 160k miles
>rich enough to have his own tanning bed at home and a reservation at Dorsia Let's see Paul Allen's 4x4.
>>28955902>Written in 91
Im considering spending something like $20-25k (all said and done) on a wheeling /codaily driver. Ive found a 2008 gx470 with only 160k miles on it but ive also seen a lot of FJs that would be similar or maybe 3-5k cheaper. Is there any major reason to go with an FJ over the lexus? The gx ive seen is at 23k but has all the main work done to it, only really missing skid plates and a roof rack if I decide I want that. There are more FJs usually around 15k ranging from stock to more or less ready to go
>>28957417Damn mine was 14k w 110k miles. The GX is more comfy but FJs can have a stick.
>>28957472I dont think i want a manual for wheeling though. Seems like you'd run into issues that dont outweigh the benefits of manual. Its like the one time auto seems genuine the better choice. There is a nice 15k fj ready to go with like 200k miles near me but its 6 speed stick. Unless im wrong about that but personal use and what ive seen on forums it seems like most people say go auto for off roading. The v8 of the gx is also nice vs fj v6 and I dont commute so the gas price isnt a huge factor
>>28957475Only get the V8 FJ; the rear e locker is also an exclusive option you can look for but rarer.Manual is harder but more badass offroad. Was borrowing a 6sp Wrangler JK today and it made me miss rowing gears so badly but reminded me I don't miss the rest of my TJ.Also you're probably going to be doing like 3k in maintenance the first year which some of those parts can be upgraded for wheeling so add another 2k as mods budget. Plus new meats.
>>28957540>made me miss rowing gears so badlyPurely psychological counterpoint.Thats like missing the fuzzy dice hanging off your mirror. Automatic is superior offroad.
>>28957540I have manual Hilux and I hate it, wish it was auto.
>>28958297I said it was cooler not better >>28958338Are you overweight per chance?
>>28958480>I said it was cooler not better.Enjoy your youth while you have it.About the time you get bored with the clutch seems to coincide with spending more than 10 minutes doing your taxes and considering a nanny because youre tired of diapers.
What do you use to find people to offroad with in your local area?
>>28958659find a local drinking spot that caters to right wing people
>>28958622Im 40 w kids and taxes. My waifu is the nanny, I made her retire when she got pregnant the 1st time.Still like manual.
>>28958659backpage.com
Ended up buying a gx 470 today and after getting how I found out that to use this badlands apex winch I have to pop the hood and finangle the cord for the controller into this plug. This was a retarded way to set this up right? Should I try to route this cable for the controller into the glove box or something and leave it plugged into this box all the time or should I just leave it as it?
>>28958742Pic is the 470 and winch location on this steel bumper
>>28958744Will that winch warp your unibody?
>>28958748What unibody? Are you talking about the steel front bumper itself? I bought this as is but I dont think this winch ever got used. They said it only had ~4k miles on it after the guy did the suspension and other off road upgrades but it looks like its solidly attached
>>28958742Just buy this
>>28958730>Im 40Like I said.Enjoy your youth while you have it.
>>28958754Huh that seems good, so nust leave the right side plugged the engine bay and replace this wired remote. Looks like that might clear the steering fluid reservoir better too assuming it works with all their winches. Didn't realize this was stocked at harbor freight guess ill swing by tomorrow.
>>28958744Id also like some recommended for air compressors. Currently i have a VIAIR 88P i was using with my bronco sport but this gx is on 34s so thats going to be pushing the 88p. Im not sure if getting an onboard is worth the install effort or if im better off just getting something similar to what I have just larger. With the sto k bag suspension gone I could probably repurpose some of the interior button that were used for that
>>28958744checked. congratulations on the new ride, it looks good. I have the white one a few posts above. I think you'll enjoy the 2UZ vs a V6 in the FJ. For my needs and tastes it is pinnacle automobile. I named mine Mr Miyagi...a calm old refined Japanese dude that can surprisingly kick some ass if needed. If youre not familiar with amayama or partsouq they are great resources for oem parts in many cases at lower cost than stateside dealers. Type your vin# in the websites and you can browse the oem dealer catalogs down to every last bolt, clamp, small hose and whatnot. I will go there to find the toyota part number and then google search the specific part number to see what the best prices are at that given time. Also i believe Bell Lexus in AZ is subsidized by toyota to sell parts at lower cost online as well. Bell lexus has an ebay account where you can get timing belt or full brake kits at very good prices.
>>28958844Do you have any misc mods/accessories for your gx that I should consider? For example ive been looking at some of these molle panels, shelves, and tailgate tables. I have 1 fuel can and some recovery boards. Previously I had those on a shitty roof rack but im not sure ill put one on this as if I do id like it to be a nicer low profile one. Putting those items inside seems like a mistake though so consider on the outside of the tailgate
>>28958856i dont. mine is stock except for wheels and all terrains. Its my daily and not something I want to extensively modify. Ive only had it for a year and in that time I did the 200k timing belt, water pump, fan clutch and bracket, lexus radiator, everything with a bearing on the front of the motor. ive just got done r&r'ing every vacuum hose and coolant hose on it with oem stuff. Just trying to do a very thorough baseline. i want to get it as trouble free for the next 20 yrs and enjoy it as is.
>>28958884This one is my codaily (along side a supercharged 86) so I get that. One of the tables is tempting for snowboarding parking lot and camping. Haven't decided on if I will get an exterior snowboard rack or just keep gear inside. Probably the latter since its i go with more than 1 other person. Roof rack is nice as i have a shovel mount and having a full size shovel is great for camping. Its still crazy that the nice roof racks are like $1500 though. The molle panels are maybe even worstle though.
>>28958892>exterior snowboard rackMy snowboard always gets dirty when it rides on the roof. I own a rack and never use it.
>>28958716I'll have to look into that. I really don't like going to bars or drinking, I'm a bit autistic for that.>>28958739I don't know how much milfs would want to go offroading.
>>28958748The GX470 is body on frame. However a winch could warm a unibody rig or could rip out if not mounted in a solid enough location. where the crash bumpers mound is not designed for a lot of pulling force on a unibody so it could be a concern.
>>28958742I have a warn however if I want to run a hardwire controller, I have to pop the hood to connect the controller. It does have a wireless controller though. However I have to pop the hood anyways to unlock the winch clutch if I don't want to slowly winch out every time as I walk back with the controller in my hand. I also connected my winch with a relay so I can power it off since I don't know if the winch controllers are paired to the winch or if they are like old RC cars and too many in one spot could lead to unexpected winch activation.
So I'm looking for a fun second car. Don't care too much about speed and handling, just want something enjoyable. Ofcourse everyone says miata, but also eyeing an TJ Jeep wrangler. However, I'm not looking to spend thousands a year on maintenance and being stranded on the side of the road. Is it still worth it? My father in law has a defender from 2000 and I dont physically fit in that car (im too tall). So dont recommend cars for manlets.
>>28959010B58 powered UDM X3 M40i
>>28958899the main problem is it can cause rust on the edges. Their nice to have if you end up going with 4 people as ski / boards dont fit without putting at least one seat down.>>28958973I hadnt considered interference from other remotes especially since i leave the winch engaged when driving. I would hope that these days they dont all overlap, if it was someone with the exact same remote that probably wouldnt be much of and issue unless that badland one is very common.>>28959010Kei truck, i havent been in one but they seem like theyre okay unless youre over like 6'5
Do you guys use radios or something to talk between cars? I do have a baofeng uv-5r+ but my buddy doesnt have anything. Wondering if it's worth mounting a CB in the car or just use the walkie talkies
>>28959676I still have a CB. Its actually cool because people you dont know who are in the area will chime in.
>>28959747What CB do you have? I had started looking at those because of the no license requirement but it seems like most people use gmrs so I had started looking at something like Radioddity DB-20. I dont have any idea how much clearer gmrs is than cb. A unit that could do both would be nice
>>28959756Im old school.I have a Cobra 21GTL in my main rig that ive been running for like 30 years.Ive been sitting on a Cobra 29 LTD Classic that I plan on adding to another truck but everytime I start looking at antenna I can't decide if I want to go with a 102" stainess or dual 102s or a firestik or just a mag mount so then I jist get flustered and it just goes back on the shelf.There are much better radios but I know a Cobra wont take a shit on me when i really need it so I just stick with them instead of trying to filter through new tech.
>>28959756Oh and just to add-The antenna has as much to do with signal as the radio. Well, more actually.The most expensive radio with a trash antenna wont make it out of camp whereas the cheapest radio with a nice antenna thats properly installed will broadcast for miles.Placement on the vehicle is as important as the antenna itself. The vehicle becomes the grounding plane that affects the signal strength and direction.
>>28959784with antennas, length is everythingdesign, not so much. they are all pretty much the same. again: its all about length, not designif it has a coil, it should be as high as possiblei run a hustler with a small coil probably 3/4 of the way up102s are great, but dealing with a 102 is a painfor a properly co phased install, they need to be a half wave from each other, so about 14 feet. no one does it right, it looks retarded if you know what youre looking at. and you need 75ohm cable alsoi have a stryker radio, its pretty coolregular cb doesnt really get out too far, you need mo powah
for me it’s the bfgoodrich ko3 tire.
>>28959811>no one does it rightThus why the 29 is still sitting on a shelf.Another thing to remember is that if youre in the south near the border youll have Mexicans stepping all over you with linear amplifiers and your shit will be worthless.U.S. is by law less than 5w on CBs.Mexico doesnt give a shit and these douchbags are running 100w+.Your rig will be broadcasting for 7 miles but youll be picking up espanol from 150 miles out bleeding 5 channels over.
>>28960497God I hate Mexico
Are these amazon hitches fine? It is a very basic piece so it seems hard to fuck up but not sure if it's worth looking somewhere more reputable for this kind of thing
>>28962217I bought this one for $25 and it's been fine
>>28962227Good to know, i figured most of them must be fine but basically none of the review mention actually using them. I'm more worried about what actual recovery straps to get, it seems like that's something where random cheap ones will fuck you over.
>>28962217please god dont get the redin other news, my sub box is fabd up for my access cab. i also installed front bumpstops, and made some spacers to keep my emergency brake lines off my leafs
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>>28958744Should i do aluminum or steel skid plates on this gx470? Only one it has is the engine one but can't tell if it's stock or something that was put on when they installed this Lil B's bumper. I was leaning towards steel but with the weight this already has from the bumper maybe aluminum would be better. Was looking at RCI mainly unless there are some other better alternatives.
>>28962326Aluminimum takes exactly 1 hit b4 breaking. Always go steel unless youre just worried about small dirt road stones boucing up. RCI is good
>>28962353>Aluminimum takes exactly 1 hit b4 breaking.i've seen some videos where they are bashing the aluminum pretty hard and it seems fine. How often do you touch up steel plates to avoid rust?
>>28962353Dude, what??I have an aluminum skidplate from 1999 on my truck.Ive beat the shit out of it.And ive never had a steel bash guard on any of my R class dirtbikes, only aluminum.
>>28962368I've heard steel slides better, and the steel does save like $100 but adds like 50-60lbs. I think i'll probably go with the steel mainly for the grabbing but not sure how big of a concern rust will be. I'm assuming people mainly just touch them up at each oil change?
>>28962377Fackin paintem and crc marinem for an aft winter
>>28962377>I've heard steel slides betterYoure not a fucking snowboard.Steel is poorfag cope shit.
>>28962217I cant even buy a shackle that size at tractor supply for 28 bucks.Id use it but id have a wireless remote and be like 100 feet away while I was doing it.
>>28953903Light duty? They’re the only ones that come with a solid axle up front, IFS is light duty, they also come with full float rears which is insane for a non-truck
>>28962778Oops this was for>>28954098
>>28962778Ifs is superior to solid axlesThey're starting to dominate king of the hammers
>>28962949I don’t see any IFS rigs dominating at the rubicon or fordyce or Moab etc, just all jeeps and Toyotas that have been axle swapped
>>28962778>Stupid fucking retard uneducated white trash tweaker thinks suspension type defines duty class.Go crawl back under your rock, dog fucker.
>>28962963Solid axles are a crutch for non skilled drivers and poor people. An objective measurement such as king of the hammers is better than your feelings on the matter
>>28962973Full float axles are exclusively for “heavy duty” applications, they’re selected for the way that loads are distributed through the axle, they’re aren’t used in cars or 1500 trucks, they’re reserved for 2500,3500 and up trucks, semi trucks and box trucks, flat beds and tow trucks>>289629744wd is a crutch for unskilled drivers, real skilled drivers don’t need it, internal combustion engines are a crutch for unskilled transportation, real skilled vehicles use leg power, and if you’re rich you just helicopter everywhere, cars and trucks are for plebs, personally, I just build rail to wherever I wanna go and drive my f40ph everywhere, if there isn’t a rail where I wanna go, I construct one with my infinite funds and political power
