I have had similar issues with customers and their vehicles. Not just in aut/o/motive world but every trade has this issue.I for one think the internet is to blame for making people think they know it all about cars with out getting actual hands on experience.Would you agree ?
>>28955043That has always been a thing since the dawn of time only difference is there people in this planet.
Explain to me the difference between a mechanic linking symptoms together to a most common cause and a "regular idiot" doing the same and coming to the same conclusion.Please.Because what I need to hear from you is how you're mad that what it means is devaluing the job.
Where have you been for the last year? It's non stop "LLMs are here, I don't see much point in paying for a doctor/plumber/mechanic/accountant anymore".And yet people still keep hiring people to do the work for them. Turns out looking at a diagram of removing a camshaft or whatever and actually getting at the fucking thing aren't the same level of effort.
>>28955043>but every trade has this issue.For me it's the fuck head "engineers" that waddle their ass out their office and come down into the shop trying to ask me for .001 tolerance on some nothingburger when our production parts vary between an 1/16 off the line. To which I have to promptly tell them go fuck yourself when they don't even know how to provide a drawing
>>28955050The difference is people are being fed dogshit information through spoon feeding by AI. Stupidity before was unsophisticated, now it's comically complex like trying to talk a schizophrenic into stepping away from a ledge.
>>28955043>OP discovers the Dunning Kruger Effect
>>28955050>this planetKeep your globe religion to yourself.
>>28955277I grow more and more convinced people would inject themselves with bleach as long as it's was a machine telling them it's a safe way to cure the common cold.
>>28955289Flatcuck
mechanics are retarded though. my starter motor has problems and i have a killswitch, and the mechanic said the killswitch is the faultHow the fuck can it be the killswtich if its a common problem on my car model?
Looking over the premium offerings in the middleweight category, we have:>ktm 890/901>bmw 900>Ducati 890/930>Triumph 900Looking forward to when the cool new middleweight in 2028 is a fucking liter bike
>>28955337>autistic man is screeching at you about starter motors and his killswitch. smells of BO. Autistic man insistent that he knows what the problem is but somehow doesn't know how to fix it himself.>say something to placate him, hopefully he goes awayIf you know it's the starter motor why not just swap it yourself?
>>28955337>>28955349Ok lets your trying to chace a wiring issue on a car cause and statement is due to the dash having an interruption or interference with the signal on your car’s cluster or ipad screen as they call it now a days.>here is the pdf on a 2024 kia were do you start searching??
>>28955375>Ok lets your trying to chace a wiring issue on a car cause and statement.
>>28955375I tell people to use a spell checker, as it is to me one of the most egregious insults.Please, consider it.
>>28955375>here is the pdf on a 2024 kia were do you start searching??Me talk to shaman, in place of smoke and light. Shaman face wet and red, eyes wide, he tell me ancestors warn not splice OEM wire harness with temu. Me not listen, me worry Jamal tribe steal Kia, me say shaman not speak for all spirits! Now me cry, lake of tears on 4chan.
>>28955375>Ok lets your trying to chace a wiring issue on a car cause and statementHave you really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
>>28955286this has been debunked
>>28955375In all seriousness, though, what was the actual fix? Was the mechanic wrong? Is it still broken? Did you replace the starter motor?
>go to shop and tell them to figure out problem>get a bill for 15 000 dollars + tip>go to shop and tel t hem what needs to be done>get a bill for 600 dollarsDon't want smartass clients? Don't be a jew ripping them off
>>28955566that's something that people on the peak of mount stupid would say
>>28955566I am sad to say that I am living, legendary proof it has not been debunked.
>>28955349>If you know it's the starter motor why not just swap it yourself?Because the starter isn't properly heat shielded from the exhaust headers. That's the root cause, as per literally 10 minutes of google searches on my car. The starter is buried deep. Instead, they replaced the battery and said if i have issues, i should just come back. Newsflash, i came back and they said they wont work on it unless the killswitch is removed entirely He was a dysgenic looking mestizo meximutt too lmao
>>28955115>Explain to me the difference between a mechanic linking symptoms together to a most common cause and a "regular idiot" doing the same and coming to the same conclusion.>Please.It's the same issue plaguing the medical community when patients self-diagnose. These people are trying to fit their symptoms in to a narrative/agenda.Fat patients will diagnose themselves with a genetic disease to explain why they can't eat a healthy diet and exercise.Lazy people will diagnose themselves with mental health issues to avoid work.For everyone else it's cancer or a rare exotic disease from a country they've never visited.Now don't get me wrong, 1 in 100 may get it right, 1 in 1000 may even identify something the doctor missed. But they're the exceptions.
>my mates a [insert trade here] and he told me you've gotta do this and thatfucking get him to do it then dickhead
>>28955115Hands-on experience counts for a lot. Otherwise it's just people doing what >>28955707 said, googling things like "why does car makes a eeer eerrrr noise in morning when i turn the steering wheel????" And with the advent of AI, from both the garbage aggregate answers and SEO optimized garbage sites and videos, there's less and less useful info so they become convinced of a generic or bullshit answer being the cure. With no background from working on vehicles, they can't tell what makes sense.
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>>28955800i fixed my car with groks help
>>28955043My trade is decent because I work for a lot of doctors, surgeons and general office people who tend to be absolutely mechanically and electrically retarded. I get the occasional "oh chat GPT says it's this part" but most of them don't know what's wrong with it and let me figure it out. I generally have to tell mechanics what to do because most of them have single digit IQ's and are incapable of fixing or diagnosing basic shit. People have seen too many mechanics charge people thousands of dollars for what should have been a $5 fix so it's expected for them to be a little weary.
>>28955810>People have been on the internet and seen a minority of mechanics who charge people thousands of dollars for what should have been a $5 fix so they're a little wary.This is the problem, people go on the internet to google a problem and assume whatever they see first is the norm.The algorithm feeds chaos.
>>28955202I had an electrical engineer balk when i told her the battery in her jeep is from fucking 2019 and is most likely the reason why we had to jump start it.>E. Engineer parks car at work and ubers to near by airport for vacation.>comes back after 2 months and jeep is dead.>co-worker tries jumping it with his truck>no joy>another tries jumping it, same result>i drive a shit box so i have a pretty stout jump box.>it works, jeep starts and the speedo is in full christmas tree mode>notice the battery date is something somethin 2019>"uhhh that battery is pretty old, id get a new one soon...">"wat? i don't think the age of the battery matters. it just lost its charge over time and need to be jumpped, i mean its been 2 months">ohkey dohkey den>i go home>apparently she comes back 30min later because she left something at her desk>of course she turned off the car and it wouldn't start after, dead as it was left after 2 months.>i get a text from truck bro to come back with the jump box>i respond lol you tell her to get a battery. she might listen to you;)
>>28955873>looooooool 2019 BATTERY JUST STOPPED WORKING HAHAAHHA I CHARGED UP IT DIDNT HOLD THE CHARGE WRENCHLET
>>28955696>Chat gpt told me this is the problem !11!!! Fix it reeee!!!
>>28955810AI has wrought absolute havoc on the brains of browns and retards
>>28955043now now wagie lower your tone stay focused and that 3 figure weekly payday is coming on friday
>>28955913>jeep owner with immaculately painted transfer caseCan make seven figures and performative masculinity doesn't become less pathetic. Dude had no problem letting the dude fuck with his vehicle, and only threw a shitfit when he learned the dastardly Chinese got into his globohomo FCA jeep, as if a clutch is not a consumable component that can just be replaced again.
>>28955707Yeah dude I have a neurosis and dont want to know im wrong when my car needs to work.
>>28955043how many mechanics are parts swapping retards who blindly follow flow charts?>UHHHH DIAGNOSING THINGS DONT PAY MONEY!!! IT TAKE TOO LONG!!!but you're paid to fix things, not to swap parts, you dumb fucking ape.
ai validating peoples biases + people automatically assume mechanics are lying 90% of the time
>>28955115This. Retard mechanics get upset when you don't provide information for them to work off of, but they also get upset when you do provide information to work off of. Fucking retards
>>28956365Fucking imbeciles
>>28956368Fucking cunts
>>28956324What if swapping the part is part of diagnosing the problem?
>>28955043Information exchange needs everyone to be invested to be worth it. Showing mutual respect and a cooperative attitude, and establishing a common language before common understanding is the prior foundation to talking. Handshaking, Greetings, reveals the first two and going around the car talking, pointing and fiddling is for the later. There is no work to be done if there is any combative, resistive, avoidant, manipulative, delusional ideas floating around, only cooperative. Just not worth it when you do the job and still get low balled and complained from insecure delusions.People work for good money AND lipservice, both boosts self worth.Kids are not taught in family, then in school, then in work. The liberal debt(you do you) only grows larger. One needs time to think over their own problems, and one needs time to show and teach their kids. The societal exchange of working a lot more to have someone else teach a full class for a full day is not working out in a liberal environment where wide spread and obvious trust issue is downplayed and ignored.Lastly people throwing around information from hearsay, advertisement and entertainment when they are bored, and they use use to arm themselves when they feel threatened by mechanics might do them dirty. These can be easily challenged in any barrier test. Your shop has more than enough stuff with bolts to work on to prove who is qualified to work on car or which idea is worthwhile. This is an objective challenge without going face to face. Your customer never had a chance with grease, tools, parts, body shape or even hold themselves liability for their own cars let alone someone elses.
>>28956324>completely reliant on 'dumb fucking ape' to do basic repairsthe pain of wrenchlet existence
