my 2014 mazda 6 broke down today and gotta get a 3 row car for the kiddos. Do I get sienna or grand Highlander? or change my mind on Toyota master race
>>28958777>if you are minivan fan or car agnosticSienna>if you cannot be seen in a minivanGrand HighlanderBoth are good, but you will live a way easier life with a Sienna.
>>28958777what happened to the mazda 6
>>28958777Chrysler Pacifica
>>28958777Land Cruiser 200 for best resale
Dodge Ram 1500
>>28958777I fucking love my minivant. Dad of 2
>>28958777Minivans have almost no cargo room with the third row up so keep that in mind. The general rule is that the bigger the vehicle the more bullshit your wife will need to haul around. It's the same with garages. You can't have too much cargo room but it's easy to have too little. You should really get a Chevy Express with a 400hp V8.
>>28958777Sienna. Three row SUVs are retarded.
>>28958906You know those are like $60k, right? At that point why would you not just get a Suburban or Expedition?
>>28958912The Sienna gets 35 mpg, the Suburban and Expedition get 10 mpg. The Sienna is more comfortable. The Sienna has more storage space. The Sienna is still a lot cheaper than a Suburban or Expedition. If you decided that you needed more cargo or passenger space or that you wanted a big ass V8 for towing then you'd be better served by a Chevy Express van.There is literally no use case for a Suburban or Expedition. If you need to tow things or go off road you'd be better served by a pickup truck, a work van or a smaller SUV. If you need to carry people or cargo you'd be better served by a Sienna or a Chevy Express. The Suburban and the Expedition are incredibly retarded vehicles for people who need a van; but have decided that it would make them gay so they buy a giant gas hungry SUV with shitty cargo and passenger space compared to a van and shitty practicality as a work vehicle compared to a van or a pickup truck. All while giving you the worst MPG of pretty much any vehicle on the market, lousy handling, and a giant vehicle that's a pain in the ass to park or maneuver. They're dumb vehicles for dumb people with more money than sense.https://youtu.be/PI_Jl5WFQkA?t=6
>>28958946Modern Burbs and Expeditions get 25+mpg highway and not much less than that in the city. You're delusional if you think their interior room is remotely comparable. If minivans are so superior why are celebrities, billionaires, dignitaries and government officials always chauffeured in Suburbans, Escalades or Navigators? Simpson posting should result in a permanent ban.
>>28958952Ford Expedition Cargo Space: 108 square feetToyota Sienna Cargo Space: 101 square feetChevy Express, short wheelbase: 240 square feet.As I said its a retarded vehicle. The same size as a Chevy Express with less than half the cargo space. Way bigger than a Sienna a third row that's a pain in the ass to get to and way worse MPG for a massive gain of 7 square feet of cargo space. There is no use case for an Expedition or a Suburban. If you needed to carry a big family around then you should have gotten a mini van. If you needed to carry a shit load of cargo around or a massive family then you should have gotten a Chevy Express.>25 MPG Suburban or ExpeditionLulz. No freaking way. If you believe that I've got a bridge in Brooklyn I'd love to sell you.>If minivans are so superior why are celebrities, billionaires, dignitaries and government officials always chauffeured in Suburbans, Escalades or NavigatorsBecause adding bullet proof armor to a body on frame chassis is easier. They should be using an Express though; but most rich people and government officials are retards who think driving around in a van is lower class.
Minivans have way more room than 3 row SUV. If your wife doesn't mind it, get the minivan
>>28958805Engine has crapped out for the third time now and it’s a grand to fix it each time
>>28959060that tells me nothingwhich part are they replacingwhat were the symptoms
>>28959064The first two time it was these oxygen valves. First time was the intake and second time was intake and outtake with intake under warranty. Something like that
>>28959076alright so they replaced the VVT solenoidsthat's normal it doesn't mean your car "broke down"
>>28959089Yea but this is the third time this year so I’m scrapping it. Need bigger car for the waifu anyway
>>28958777If you want the hybrid, get the minivan.If you're a gas purist, get the highlander.If you have no opinion, get the minivanIf you're worried about what the wife thinks, it doesn't matter because CUVs will be out of style soon; Get the minivan in an obnoxious color.
>>28959096why would you scrap a fancy new car like thatdoes it have massive rust holes or something?
>>28959108It’s 12 years old with 120k miles and keeps having engine problems and eats batteries. I’ll get what I can get for it
>>28959114trade it in. they'll put some better solenoids on it and maybe fix the parasitic drain and someone will get a nice car they can drive for another 200,000 miles
Kia Carnival is the best choice or you OP. It's much nicer and newer inside than any Toyota.
What’s your budget? Buying new or used?If looking at 3 row SUV’s Subaru Ascents under 40k miles are decent deals. Better than their rankings, just change oil/cvt fluid/diff fluid more often than recommended.If you get one with 40k immediately change CVT & diff fluids.
>>28958777SUVs make no sense to me as a family vehicle unless you want something fuckhuge like a Suburban, Expedition or Land Cruiser and that is ONLY if you live in the middle of nowhere. No one is really taking 7-9 people on a mudding trip or trying to rock crawl on their way to the costco.A minivan holds 7-9 people comfortably, has higher crash/rollover ratings, has more amenities inside, is better on fuel and does not magically cost $10-25k more than it's SUV counterpart for no apparent reason other than muh 10 inch ground clearance on a body on frame FWD-based shitbox.
I wish they would make a high ground clearance AWD minivan. Sliding doors are better.
>>28958777>Do I get sienna or grand Highlander?No.>Dodge Grand Caravan GTYES!>Pentastar equippedYES!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwP15gcQ9gw
>>28959060bull shit
>>28958777if you can stomach buying stellantis; chrysler minivans have way more cargo space than the sienna because the second row seats collapse
>>28959522You’re right. Mazda is working fine now. I think the electrical is spotty. Wife likes the Highlander
>>28959138Why do you retards keep spouting this bullshit about SUV's when you clearly have never been in one? If minivans were truly superior people would be buying them...
>>28959449You would just wind up with a low roof Transit F-150 which is still too tall to be practical. Minivans only appear big on the inside because they sit 2'' off the ground.
>>28959823>If minivans were truly superior people would be buying them...People are dumb.
>>28958821>>28959124>Being a Stellantis or KIA shill>2026
Minivan is entirely so your kiddos don't fuckin doording everyone's shit with your bigass vehicle4 cylinder hybrid minivan is the best vehicle for a family
>>28958777i dunno it's like, do you just want to be just a dad, or a man that has last bit of remaining self respect. I know friends with Siennas, they have no life behind their eyes just being a daily bus driver
