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Tesla won

Microdick general

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>>28966807

At least it is not a Luce

>make electric vehicles so expensive that only rich people can afford to buy them
>jack up the price of gasoline to fuck poor people over even harder
Get puked on, faggots.

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Drove by a gas station where premium gas is $5.25. That would be around $80 to fill up a full tank

Not my problem lol

How do I know when they assign me a VIN? Been waiting weeks for my Tesla

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I kinda like some of the ev sport wagons coming out of china

2025 Denza Z9GT in pic, 1.1k hp 2.7 0-100 and 270km/h top speed

>/evg/

TEH REI :DDDDDDD

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I drove like 400km on my Polestar 2 today and still had 35% charge left. This car is amazing.

Being able to home charge a car is top comfy. Feels like cheating nature.

Fuck gas stations

>>28967374
Damn bro you got nothing but stock images of your gay NPC car

>>28967374
>less range than a Tesla
stop shilling this Euro-Chinese shitbox

>>28966807
>this thread is maybe 2 different people just randomly schizo posting and not even replying to each other
>0 people have posted "their" ev
Jesus christ you faggots are pathetic.

Just buy an EV

>>28967833
I never have and never will post a picture of my actual car. It's pointless. It looks the same as the stock press photos and if there's even a 0.001% chance of it being recognized then that's a trillion times higher than I want.

It's gonna be great in 5 years when there are finally some high mileage R2s I can buy. That will be my next car purchase.

Pretty excited. Getting my euro version of the Model Y standard in about a month! This is my first new car ever and my first EV. Already got my Zaptec Go 2 installed so I can charge at home.

>>28967235
Have you installed the Boring Order Tracker app? I can't see my VIN in the Tesla app yet but it shows up in the Boring Order Tracker app. I ordered in around mid april in Europe and I got my VIN on the 29th of may.

Kino EVs
Porsche Taycan
Model S
Polestar 2
Ioniq 6
BMW i4
Mercedes CLA

Gay EVs
The rest.

>>28967831
Barely. The China-made Model 3 also rusts like hell, has a tiny trunk and lookd like a retarded fish.

Thinking about getting an EV to save on gas

How do we feel about EV taxes?

>>28968037
Amerimutt-only phenomenon. TACO's investors really want to kill EVs to save the petrol industry.

BYD, finest automobiles in the world.


https://youtu.be/jap0QPFGxf8?si=zdjucWlTO-Hrh5sV

Why is EV resale value so bad?

>>28968402
That depends on if you really want to know or you just want a backpat echochamber of people saying it's because they're shit.

>>28968402
Because EVs are only good for people who own their home and those people don't buy used cars. People who buy used cars rent and can't install a home charger.

Think I might trade in my i5 for an iX3 later this year when they hit lots.

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>>28968516
>doesn't know
>posts anyway
>>28968519
>implying that all home owners only buy new

Getting my Tesla delivered soon. I don't want to commit to a wall charger yet, so I was gonna have a NEMA 14-50 plug put in to use with the Mobile Connecter the car will come with at Level 2. Some channels recommend getting an industrial outlet to prevent wear, but the bigger thing is that my house will probably need an electrical box upgrade, too.

>>28968524
>implying that all home owners only buy new
They buy new more often than non home owners do, by a very large margin. But the bigger problem is excluding the non home owner demographic entirely. EVs are an awful decision for them, if you can't charge it at home it's like buying a gas guzzler that is enormously more inconvenient to use. Price per mile when charging off public chargers is similar to a low MPG SUV, it's rough.

If 90+% of used car buyers can't actually benefit from buying EVs then yeah, used EV prices are going to suffer immensely as a result.

>>28966807
Elon musk uses Twitter to gang stalk me

>>28968524
I do know though. But it's a complicated answer and I'm not going to waste my time typing an essay to a greentext poster reaction face chud

How bad are MG ev and hybrids? The price is suspiciously cheap and the car have a huge warranty 7 years or 150k km. I suspect it's a ploy to get market share but I don't want to run into too much problems.

>>28966807
Tiago EV.

this expensive petroleum is making me consider leasing a model 3. the no-contact test drive was a good experience. just sucks that i live in an apartment building and there's no plugins in the garage so i'll have to charge it during work or when im picking up groceries.

EV's won

>No electrically folding mirrors
>Worse battery
>Indirect tire pressure monitor
>No basic autopilot
Why is the US version of Model Y standard worse?

>>28969192
No one buys the standard Y
If you want an entry-level Tesla, you get the 3 standard

>>28968529
Why not just buy a wall charger at that point? I did and it was like 700 euros after state sponsored deductables here in Sweden. Is it really expensive in the US?

Bros the wait for my Car is brutal....

all the evs in my area that were under $20k have been sold

>>28968520
The i5 is a way better car than iX3.

>>28969192
Because those things are required by law in all new cars in EU.

>>28969302
What car?

>>28968800
Ok for a lease maybe but I would never buy that chink crap.

>>28969341
I don’t disagree but I need the space for my kid.

>>28969449
It's barely more spacious if at all compared to i5.

EVbros...

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>>28967171
>only rich people can afford to buy them
Nigger you can get used evs for like 30k. Hell even new you can get shit for like 40k. Where does that make someone rich.

Any Europoors or Canada fags test drive any of the Chinese cars yet? I want to know how much better (if at all) they are over what we have in the States.

I have an EV I can't afford, but I am debtmaxxing so I can still drive it.

>>28969900
Being able to lay a seat flat so I can load things in the trunk is a lot easier in an SUV than a sedan.

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>>28971090
Does i5 not have a liftback like i4 does? If so yeah that's a limiting factor. I only buy sedans as liftbacks now.

I’m tired of waiting for things to get better

How's your charging going?

I'm not using the the Luce general

>>28972395
At 80%

What is the EV version of a new iPhone SE?
I want to buy one for my son as his first car but don't want to spend model 3 money

>>28974132
Chevy Bolt. You used to be able to find them under $15k but EV prices have been going up.

>>28974132
BMW i3.

>>28971074
A colleague test drove a BYD, he was not really convinced - the car is not bad, but the software is crude.

>>28974615
BYD is awful astroturfed brand. Avoid it. It's shit even by chink standards.

>>28972395
idk
I charge at night like I do my phone and my watch

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Anyone else have to spend 10 seconds plugging in their car last night instead of waiting in gas lines?

>>28977001
https://xcancel.com/bayraktar_1love/status/2062790853349855430
Are you Russian?
My condolences.

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Mexico's making an EV. Why do 90% of EV's look like cuckmobile's?
>>28977005
>Bayraktar
That's the name of a Turkish drone

>>28977005
Nope, but I see gas lines every time I go to Costco.

>no powertrain maintenance cost
>no fucking fuel cost LITERALLY running cost of nothing if charging on home solar and producing excess kwh that you would instead push into the grid and get kiked out of your being paid for your produced kwh by the ubercorrupt national power company
>good value most of them
convinced, too bad they're all absolutely uninspiring and with all the modern car stupidities you don't want

>>28971074
europoor (shithole)
rode in a lynk&co z20/02, its ok, softer than an old model 3 by a bit that's good, seems to be well put together, its still a gay cuckover blob thing.

>>28977171
Just get Polestar 2. It has little of that modern EV faggotry with the best reliability ever seen in a car. That Volvo CMA platform is GOAT.

I watched a video where a guy converted an old pickup truck into an EV and it retained the clutch and stick-shift in the operation. That's pretty neat.

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>still no good Toyota EV

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>>28966807
>Year 1: EVs lose 30% to 40% of their original value.
>Years 2–5: The depreciation rate slows down significantly to roughly 10% to 15% per year.

What is stopping me from just renting an EV for like 2-3 years and just getting a new one? Dealerships are always having leasing deals for like 300-400 usd per month.

Am I dumb or is this a good idea?

Model Y owner here. Anyone know what I can do about my walls falling out? He was like a steam train under my little bridge 2 nights ago, but ever since then I've been collapsing in on myself CONSTANTLY with my tighty whities turning beet red every time. I kinda like the feeling of people noticing the little red droplet trails behind me, but I'm afraid my boss's old DEI quota is about to run out. What do I do?

I got my home charger put in today

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> Toyota’s chairman famously said in early 2024 that EVs will never exceed 30 percent of global sales.

AHAHAHAHHA. Is this why I keep hearing this statement? Anti EV fags parroting a chink CEO?

https://www.motor1.com/news/798173/toyota-chairman-reveals-worst-fear/

>>28966851
wrong thread
>>>28978949

My Tesla comes in two weeks :)

>>28978458
Leasing EVs is fairly common but you're still better off buying a 2 year old EV if you can afford it.

I'm getting my EX30 next week, my first EV. Coming from a shitty 2012 yuro diesel. What am I in for ? (except for rage at the not button interior)

>>28979719
>Toyota CEO
>chink
Retard.

>>28980097
Whatever, I can't memorize everyone's pronouns.

>>28980093
I hope you bought the long range RWD version with the small tires. That one is GOAT.

>>28980442
yup long range propulsion, unfortunately with 20 inch wheels so big tires (didn't have a choice).

>>28980461
That's fine, you're still rocking one of the zippiest cars ever made.

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Dealer is practically on their knees begging me to take it off their lot ($400/mo lease, 2k down, 2 years).
I like the hatchback and how solid the car feels in general, but it feels rather claustrophobic inside despite its size and I’ve heard that VAG software is dogshit.
Is it worth it or should I lease a Highland instead?

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The cheapest EV in my are is a 2012 Leaf with 7 out of 12 bars, which means it can go a maximum of 40 miles if the weather is good, 20 miles if it's cold, and the dealership wants $8000 for it.

>>28981267
Is this a joke?

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Looks like September is the date when the shit hits the fan for anyone who didn't get a plug-in EV.

>>28977012
>Why do 90% of EV's look like cuckmobile's?
You and I are not the target audience. Techbros see cars more as an appliance so a sleek, good-looking car would be too far right for their taste

>>28981354
consider posting in all caps at this point

>>28981354
Why are you typing like a third world nigger? Didn't read.

>>28971059
most poor people don't have the money laying around for a sudden $400 expense

>>28981267
>>28981354
Why is anyone supposed to care how long it takes a bicycle to charge an EV?

>>28968402
the batteries degrade pretty badly within ten years, and replacing them isn't cost effective against what the value of the car would be at that point.

>>28981360
hey, it's the dipshit from /out/ forcing his milhouse-tier meme on another board

>>28981504
If you knew what you were talking about then you would know age has nothing to do with it. A battery will still have ≥99% capacity after 10 years, after 20 years. Maybe forever.

>>28981715
>>28981744
Wow this whole time I thought electricity was just magic that came out of the wall
Holy shit you're telling me it actually takes a machine to convert one source of energy into another? And you discovered this secret out all by yourself?

Bros, why do I have to wait for my Musk car?

>>28966807
Man that front end looks so much better than the I have no mouth and I must scream front design they insist on.

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>>28981532
>the only way a battery can degrade is capacity

>>28982066
>the only way a battery can degrade is capacity
You wanna give that sentence another shot, champ? Maybe wanna think a bit more carefully about which words you're using?

>>28981721
Stop generating these pieces of shit

EV = future

maybe the gayest thread in /auto/

>>28982116
Stop acting stupid already

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>>28982073
>You wanna give that sentence another shot, champ? Maybe wanna hurr durr durr durr?

What is it with EVs that provoke certain people so much? So much seething and namecalling. Im looking forward to mine coming in a few weeks. Gonna save a ton of money per year going from my diesel to an EV.

>>28982222
So you really want to double down on "the only way a battery can degrade is capacity"? That was really what you wanted to say?

>>28982334
it's in greentext you shit-eating moron. i said the battery degrades over time, you responded by saying that it doesn't lose it's capacity, as though that was the only way a battery can degrade over time. i used greentext in my reaponse to you, which everybody on this namibian basket weaving forum knows means >implying
you must be here from reddit, or you're retarded. or both.

>>28982373
It's not greentexting if you're not quoting the other person. I never said "the only way a battery can degrade is capacity"
That was your original thought

>>28982325
Poorfag jeets are seething because they love dirty pollutions.

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I ordered a new Tesla Model Y standard. It hasn't arrived yet but I'm kinda getting buyers remorse. It's almost a year's salary that I'm paying.

>>28980097
He's right though...?

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>>28982387
>It's not greentexting if you're not quoting the other person.
It's greentexting if you're making an implication. it has always worked this way. you have to go back, newfriend
>I never said "the only way a battery can degrade is capacity"
you implied it with your wording, hence the greentext. if you didn't mean to, that's your mistake. turns out that it was you that should have worded your post better the entire time. maybe focus less on policing how other people relay information and focus on your own grammar and syntax, sperg.

>>28982895
Just buy used for half the price or lease that shit. New EVs are never worth outright buying.

>>28982929
I don't want to buy a car that has years of someone else's farts ingrained.

>>28982959
Then take the cost and stop being a bitch about it. You can't have it both ways.

>>28978968
>>28976712
>>28967620
>>28967227
How much do you guys actually spend (per mile or per full-charge)?
Some of the public charging stations here do around 50 cents per kWh. Teslafags tell me that's like $50 for a full fast-charge, so same as putting 10 gallons in my shitbox every 2 weeks.
Living in an apartment so I would have to public charge, or steal from random outlets.

>>28982992
A battery pack is generally somewhere between 70-100kWh. For Tesla it's 70.

>>28982906
I most certainly did not imply it with my wording. I couldn't possibly have implied it because I can't even understand what it could even mean
You can argue semantics all day but you're still wrong. Age has a negligible effect on capacity.

>>28982895
I had to take out a loan and go into debt...

I keep my Tesla plugged in when at home, but have the charge limit set to 80% if I am not going on a trip

Bot thread

I like fast charging

y'know it's funny just a few years ago this guy would've had droves of teenagers screencapping every post and making compliations on /b/ and posting to /bestof4chan but these days it gets no attention at all and everyone just assumes it's chatgpt

Tesla won

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teslafags mogged by chinks

>>28986687
The chinks are doing all these crazy tech inventions but can't even sound isolate a car properly. They're complete amateurs.

>>28986695
If only someone could reverse-engineer those chink EVs, and add proper sound isolation.

Next-Gen Corvette is going to be an EV, with the same 24 module battery as the Hummer EV. It will also have half the curb weight of the Hummer EV.

Source: dude, trust me.

>>28986695
>crazy invention
>basic robotics
Go to sleep chang

I have a RWD Y and it's fucking fast, i cant image something like a plaid.

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The GOAT

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I want an ev that is cheap to insure and is not made by nissan or the koreans, is the BZ4X/Solterra my only option?

>>28966807
...thinking about trading my 22 mach e select for a 24 or 25 GT since they're so cheap now, and a lot more fun with some issues worked out. Strictly a commuter vehicle.

I have a truck too but 1000$ a month in gas compared to 60 for electricity has been kind to me.

>>28990478
those are pretty underpowered and once the novelty wears off, you'll wish you had something else. interiors arent terrible though.

>>28990478
Toyota is just boring. Get yourself a nice RWD EV with low ground clearance.

I am charging before bed

why are all these "cars" so god damned UGLY

>>28990884
The Model S unironically looks really good though. Maybe the best looking sedan in the last 10 years.

>>28982992
We charge at home while we sleep and it costs almost nothing when compared to fuel.

>>28990953
It’s painfully ugly

My Tesla Model 3 is Marine Blue.

>>28991631
It's not and you know it's not. Feel free to name 3 sedans made in the last decade you think look better. Bet they're all ugly as shit and you're just a contrarian.

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>>28986687

I don't pay gas taxes anymore

>>28986687
Not really an issue. Oh no I forgot to plug it in one day? I'll just plug it in the next day.

I bought new Model 3 2018 and in two years I am considering getting another one. How retarded am I if I decide to buy another Model 3 at the bare minimum? No accessories and shit.

>>28994130
In case it wasn't obvious:
>I bought a new Model 3 back in 2018

>>28989631
Sexo
>>28992979
Tech heresy

I am charging for work tomorrow :)

>>28994130
Tesla is already outdated compared to BMW, Mercedes, Volvo, Polestar, Hyundai and so on. In two years, nobody will be buying Tesla unless they really want FSD.

Got my EX30. God I love this car so far. Except for some quirks in the software/touchscreen (but it seems like Volvo is constantly fixing those) and the keyless entry tag that has a random range even with a new battery.
Other than that it drives like a video game car and is super comfortable.
Now I just need to buy a dozen more solar panels to charge it for less money.

>>28994507
Outdated how? Some people would say those brands are still playing catch up to Tesla

>>28994741
Slower charging, more prone to failure, less quality materials, will rust, no buttons, Tesla will sell your info to the feds, lagging behind the more premium EVs in range too.

By the way, Tesla sells their cars with zero buffer on the battery, meaning their cars degrade harder in range than the competition.

>>28994641
The EX30 is a real steal right now. I don't like crossovers so I'll never buy one but in the realm of EV crossovers, the EX30 is without a doubt the best buy. There is no other alternative that offers RWD drive with powerful electric motors and an Android/Google OS with zero bullshit.

Gonna start charging soon

Pack your bags, UAW.
You're fucking done.
Get out.
>https://arstechnica.com/ai/2026/06/gm-installs-robots-at-flagship-ev-factory-after-laying-off-1300-workers/

>>28990884
>>28991631
You're not the target audience. Teslas are for Silicon Valley nerds who believe in affirmative action and that diesel power comes from Satan

>>28994931
This would almost be amazing but it has rather slow charging and no buttons on the interior. I want AWD because I do a lot of camping in remote areas, but I'm not gonna buy a car with a tablet and nothing else.

There was also something fishy going on with its range figures. It has 1 kwh less than the bolt EUV. Also has worse MPGe supposedly in both city and highway, and yet it gets a range figure that is somehow better than the EUV. In real world testing from car and driver the EX30 got 83 MPGe and the Bolt EUV got 99 MPGe, which makes sense considering the EX30 has over twice the horsepower. So basically the range figures for this car are a lie. You can expect to get less range and less efficiency than the EUV. Combine that with charging that is barely any faster and this is a rather pathetic road trip vehicle.

Something like an Ioniq 5 mogs it and also has considerably more room and are far cheaper used. Only problem with the Ioniq 5 are the horrendous ground clearance and approach/departure angles. It's even worse for going off road. Sadly there is still no good cheap high clearance AWD or 4x4 EV on the market yet. Gotta wait for the rivians to come down in price. I'm banking on the R2 being the next car I buy used in like 5-6 years from now.

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Oh sisters! I’m scared of my own car now. Article yesterday, you can google it.

>>28996082
>I do a lot of camping in remote areas
And your plan is to bring a 200km-range car into these remote areas? You can't even bring an extra jerry can

btw I just found out you can use arrows keys and spacebar to navigate the "not like the others" captcha, damn that's game changer

>>28996103
The R2 has twice that range

>>28996112
Did you get that number from the brochure?

>>28996083
Literal fake news

>>28996083
she probably ran a stop sign and cut it off in traffic and it remembered. dont drive like a retard and this wont happen you dumb hag

Plugging in

2017 Chevy bolt 136k miles for $9,975

Good deal?

Supposedly had the battery replaced under recall

>>28994507
>>28994929
Thanks anon, I was looking at Polestar and I was never fond of the quality of my Model 3.

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>>28997023
The Polestar 2 is a great EV. If you're not leasing new, get atleast 2024 model with RWD. It's day and night compared to the old FWD ones. Honestly drives better than the AWD drive too. This car is built very old school. It feels like being in a proper car, not just iPhones on wheels. And the liftback trunk makes it way more practical than Model 3.

I’m staying with Tesla

I am rather excited for the BMW i3 or rather what comes out after it. I would like to see an i4 style (or at least the hatch) come to the new platform. Either that or see what the eventual i5 upgrade looks like.

I've been thinking about an mk7 e-golf as my daily driver, they promised ranges between 80 to 170km depending on where it's driven.
How badly have the batteries in these deteriorated during the past decade or so?
I know nissan leafs of similar vintage, 2014 to 16, are pretty much all fucked and can barely do 40km with a full charge on a good day.
My daily commute is approximately 50km total.

Bad news for all people interested in Polestar in the US.
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/us-denies-polestar-authorization-sell-vehicles-latest-strike-against-china-made-2026-06-25/
>BANNED

>>28998338
Get fucked

>>28998338
Yeah bad news for Polestar and Americans alike. The P2 is the best EV you can get that still feels like a "traditional" car and not a UFO with wheels. I think the ban will be short lived, since they didn't ban Volvo which has the same Chinese owners.

>>28998067
Doubt they have degraded as badly as the Leafs. Maybe you can ask for an external battery test? It should be fine for your commute regardless.

Picking up my Tesla MY RWD standard in Euroland next week. Really excited. First factory new car ever and also my first EV.

>>28998402
Enjoy. It's a a car that can be had for a bargain if you also opt for the zero interest option. Especially with government subsidies to factor in. I don't like Tesla for their touch screen shit but the Model Y Standard is unbeatable value right now. Remember to always charge that LFP battery to 100%. It's indestructible.

>>28998490
Thanks. Yeah I can understand why some people might not like it. But as you say, I get a 0% interest loan for 5 years and a government subsidy on around 6660 USD. It's pretty much unbeatable and with homecharging it will hardly cost me anything to charge it.

lexus RZ or audi Q6 etron?

>>28998613
Both are absolutely disgusting

Holy fuck this thread is almost a month old with less than 200 replies. What is it like 3 or 4 gay ass cultists bumping this shit? Or just bots?

Should I trade my 2016 Corolla for a 2018 Model 3? Seems like I could do it without having to pay anything.

What do you guys think?

>>28998652
I have noticed the exact same thing on other boards like /fit/. 4chan is dead.

>>28998649
why

>>28998694
>4chan is dead.
it's actually quite obvsiously alive since nobody with a soul posts in the ev thread

also if you post in a thread you don't like and don't use sage you need to kill yourself immediately and in the most painful and violent way possible.

>>28998709
Who said I didn’t like this thread? Why else would I be posting and reading it?

Sorry, I expected a retarded nigger like you to know how to read, my mistake.

I am charging

>>28998908
your lazor i hope

EV are just getting started

>>28998709
Saar I am posting from New Delhi yes saar!

>>28998709
sage does nothing because someone will always 'gate it
i prefer to derail

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there's no /hvg/ so I guess this is relevant enough?

I drive very little on a day to day basis, but a couple of times a month I need to go either ~250mi or ~700mi

my last vehicle (an 88 nissan pickup) has finally given up the ghost, and with gas proces and political winds being what they are, I am seriously considering a hybrid as my next vehicle - though not a plug-in since I am an apartment dweller

ideally I would like to get a minivan for the cargo space but hybrid minivans are fucking expensive, so a reasonably sized crossover is more likely to be a viable option

I don't really care about appearance, I just want something that works and will continue to work with nothing but basic routine maintenance

I have found a few different decent sounding deals on low mileage recent-year "Kia Niro" vehicles in the area, and wanted a gutcheck on whether they're actual junk that will fall apart or just inexpensive/affordable

not a car guy, if it wasn't obvious

/o/ will need accept EV’s sooner or later

>>28999867
I owned a Kia Niro 2019 PHEV. Very capable car given its relatively low price point. However the engine is weak as shit and driving feels very floaty and there is a ton of road noise on the highway. I sold it after a year but the year I owned it, it was cheap as fuck with low insurance costs and little depreciation.

So buy if you value economy, skip if you value the joy of driving.

>>28966807
If I can't charge an electric car with a built in solar panel I don't want. Why aren't bonnet, roof, and decklid solar panels standard on EVs for passive charging?

>>29000107
Because the benefit of added charge when it's sunny is greatly outweighed by a flimsy and expensive chassi that needs a $10k repair for the smallest rock dent. It's a stupid and ineffective idea.

>>29000103
cheers

I do enjoy driving for driving's sake, but there's no point in trying to get enjoyment out of that without at least a v6 and a manual transmission, so efficiency and cost are currently my main motivators

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wtf why is the fastback $7k more expensive?

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It'll be years before used EV prices go down again.

>>29000360
crossoverfags are willing to pay more for a car that looks even slightly more "sporty" (ev&oe its a shitty ev that probably caps out at 80mph).

>>28967848
I wonder if someone will make a locker kit for the R2

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I'm curious out of how many people who criticize the off road range of EVs have first hand experience off roading with them. I'm guessing very few.

I genuinely want to know, If I took a fully charged Rivian out to oceano dunes, how long could I spend out there before needing to recharge? One hour ? Two hours? More? I'd use half a tank of fuel in my JK Wrangler after a day of off roading.

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>>28996083
Blame the fancy cruise control for your mistakes.

>>29000613
Are they not 50% after 3 years anymore?

>>29000613
The trick is becoming rich. It's too difficult being a smart buyfag these days. You have to join the cabal who rips people off.

>>29000808
The price of used EVs increased after the war in Iran.

Plugging in

>>29000796
would not recommend, range takes a quick dive if you hoon around

>open charge port

>>28998399
The leafs do seem like absolute shitheaps, at least when the battery is concerned. Probably why you can get them for like a grand or two nowadays when the range is like 20km on a good day.

I'm still contemplating an EV as my daily driver, yet everyone I discuss it with just goes YEAH BUT MUH RANGE YOU CAN'T DRIVE IT ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO YOUR SUMMER VILLA WHILE TOWING A BOAT PLUS ELECTRIC CARS ARE GAY.
Sure rhing jimbo, your Kia semen cuckbox with a 1 litre 3 cylinder is such a manly car compared to my V12 BMW.
I just want an el cheapo EV to get me to work, the store and back home, I have like 7 other proper cars with real engines for cruising around.

>>29002014
I'd look into Hyundai Ioniq. Very cheap, reliable and seemingly a very durable battery. It's also a sedan and not a gay cuckbox.

>>29002063
Cheapest one is 10 grand, no fucking way man.
My budget is 5 grand tops.
>Just stop being a poorfag
It's not because of that, it's due to autism and principle.
For 10 grand I'd get some fucked yank barge like a 70s muscle car.
Yes, I know it's not a sensible daily, but the issue is that if my budget allows ne to buy something fun instead of practical and sensible, I will always pick the fun option and then complain that gas is expensive and I don't have a daily driver.
I am not a smart man, that's why I gave the EV budget for my wife to manage specifically so I don't do something dumb with it.

>>29002066
5 grand is very tough budget and will mostly only get you shitheaps like Gen 1 Leafs and early Renault Zoes. Works for some people as secondary cars sure, but very limited vehicles in most aspects. An investment of 10k gets you exponentially more car and one that is likely easier to resell too.

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>>29000808
Even better, they're 25% MSRP after 8 years

>>29002069
I know, that's why I've been eyeballing the VW eUp and egolf because they tend to hover around the 5 to 7 grand range for a 10 year or so old model and they seemed to offer fairly good range when new, like 160km/100 miles so even if it lost some range to the 100km/60 mile range, I wouldn't be too bothered.
Yet even at these prices I am extremely tempted to buy something dumb that realistically I do not need.

>>29001088
>>29002074
There's so much less risk with buying a used EV since you can't really abuse an electric motor and the computers will prevent you from doing anything stupid with the battery. It never made sense to me why there was such a huge gap in price compared to new.

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>>28966830
I wish Tesla had a better looking blue like Honda

Might order an EV soon

>>29002464
Which one?

>>29002485
model Y L

>>29002112
If you treat EVs much like the luxury car market rather than the general market, with some smartphone tech progression obsolescence mentality, it starts make a bit more sense.

>>29000360
Frankly this car is an insult compared the the Chevy bolt. Before they got rid of the subsidies it was going for like 20k starting. And you get an actual infotainment, power windows, speakers, etc. Now the current one is still considerably cheaper than either of the SUV versions of this. Way more range too and the new one is much faster charging. They should have just not made the SUV versions if they were going to price them this shitty. They should have been around the same as the truck.

>>29002613
Lets go

>>28967895
Ioniq 5 is kino too anon
Too bad Ioniqs are ruined by epic ICCU fails
CLA is gay as fuck tho and Mercedes kneecaps their EVs because apparently their entire lineup being gay shit wasn't enough. Rather have a Model 3.

>>28968800

From what I've read their hybrids are shit and older electric SUV's are thirsty. MG4, S5 and S6 are fine.

>>29002618
a lot of used ones getting sold now were made in the aftermath of covid 19 (chip crisis) where manufacturers cobbled togherer new pcb revisions on a monthly basis.
i could buy a 4 year old etron-gt for 40k now, but if the dc charger breaks Audi literally cant sell you one anymore.

>>28982387
>It's not greentexting if you're not quoting the other person
Kek fuck off to reddit you fucking retarded ape. Lurk a bit before making a fool of yourself.
>>28982895
I ordered one back in August and got cold feet and canceled on time to not pay the fine. I really don't need a shiny new car in my life. I prefer something worn down a bit so I don't worry about pebbles hitting my car.

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Anyone else parking on the street right next to their home?
How do you charge it?

>>29003665
It's stupid to own a EV without off-road parking.
Just don't do it.

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When 3000 lb EV coupe

>>29003720
It's called the 500e

>>29003734
Do they make Miata body kit replacements for it

Plug-in hybrid

>>28966830
>appears black in anything but blue skies ans 12pm sunlight

>>28966807
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zsf62rAsSpI

lulz. the future of EVs in europoors,colony of china

>>29004076
Not clicking the link but yeah nobody's chink EVs in Europe. At worst people buy Volvo or Polestar but really they use chink money and then develop cars on their own.

>>29004076
its sad how chund still hasnt conquered the marked despite half a decade wumao shilling

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>>29003968
My gen 1 Volt is still kicking.

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Should I get an Alpine A290

Got my Tesla Model 3 today =)

>>29004827
nice

>>29004682
It's a nice looking car for sure but wait for facelift. Gen 1 EVs become fast outdated.

>>29004076
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8UmkyOXdgk&

so this is le future of EVs... no more investors in "hardware" corpos like xiaomeme cars, all going into AI memes instead. bonus: more assplosions. more death n destruction.

>>29004665
I almost bought this back in 2017, but it had over 100K in a 2years.

>>28966807
The Model S is good looking. The rest are ugly AF

>>29004682
I don't like the small butt.

>>28967227
Americans have no idea how good you have it. My 70L tank costs me € 160, I drive 30 minutes to Belgium where the fuel is 50 cents cheaper per liter. I fucking hate Jews

>>29003665
>>29003672
Unless you have place to charge EV is no-go in Europe.
Public chargers are super expensive to the point that it costs almost the same as driving smaller gas car.
EU is also after those charging at home and bypassing electro-jew, there are now categories of electricity consumption tuned in such a way that if you charge ev at home you come of the normal consumption bracket and kwh automatically gets 50% more expensive for you.
You can still kinda bypass that with solar panels but I have no doubt they'll just introduce solar tax over time, like measure the area of solar panels on your property and tax you by that.

>>29006464
>Americans have no idea how good you have it.
But it got significantly worse for them too. Like 10-15 years ago everything was so much cheaper than in EU, like watching car related youtube videos - car parts, oils, tools everything was 1/3 or 1/4 the price in EU but these days prices are almost the same.

New Tesla just dropped

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>>29003720
McMurtry Automotive
>Curb weight: 2,980 lbs

I'm only charging up to 80%, and I never get close to 15%

>>29006245
The biggest reliability issue with the 2011-2013 seems to be a bearing failure that costs a few hundred to fix. The 2014 and 2015 don't seem to have any major issues. There's one I've seen posted around that allegedly has over 500,000 miles on the original battery.

>>29006971
If they cancel the X to make the YL then they need to make a Model 3 Plaid too. Even if it isn't the full 1000hp just the regular old normal 750 from the S would be good

>>29004682
Pimped up shitboxes look very retarded.
Get the Roland Garros edition of the normal R5 instead. It'll look less silly.

>>29006971
>upsized 3 row Y
>still has the slopping roof line
Is it that hard to take the CT platform and outer form?

would the low center of gravity from a battery help the handling of a hypothetical EV Miata?

>>29007880
That jump in weight is going to mess up a Miata more than any potential benefit that a decrease in center of gravity will achieve.

Charging

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e-golfs should be under 10k. the range sucks and the battery is air cooled.

Once batteries become dense enough to allow light weight cars, the whole world will change.

>>29009301
They were 5-6k eurodollars all day and then one day they all disappeared for that price.

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Two months of ownership, 8000km. Fuck you, I like it. Chinkmobile or not, it doesn't feel like one. It barely feels like an EV.

>>29007883
It's funny how much weight the Miatas weight carries when but no one seems to mind when a BRZ, S2000, or GT4 weighs 700-800lbs more

>>29009461
Low weight is one of the things that makes miata a miata.
For BRZ et al it is not a defining characteristic.

>>29009468
That's putting the cart before the horse. The defining characteristic of a Miata is how it drives, and the weight is part of that. But if you can offset the weight with competent suspension like the other cars, then it's still a good driving car. Or are you going to say driving feel isn't a defining characteristic of a GT4 too

>>29009450
Nice. I was considering it, but decided to skip due to ass interior materials and very harsh suspension, which is no go where I live. Already hate my AR Brera for that.

How do you feel about those?

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>ford making a $30k ev truck

>>28966807
>1/10 EVs from before 2021 required battery replacements over $10k
>1/100 from 2022 onward have

>>29010300
I'd buy it

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>>29009450
The Polestar 2 is the best EV out there. As you say, it not feeling like an EV is what makes it great. My 2026 model is the best car I've ever driven. I like the sportback design a lot too.

>>29009450
>Chinkmobile or not,
It's not a chinkmobile. It's based on the Volvo CMA platform and most of its components are derived from Volvo. I know people that worked on this car.

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When I pull up to a non Tesla family member

>Pffht
>Pffht
>Pffht

>>29010201
The roads here are shit and the suspension is good enough. Pretty comfy even, most of the time.
>>29010433
Built in China so it has a stigma, even when it shouldn't.

Do you guys trust Chevy? There's a EUV in my city at a decent price.

>>29010613
Yeah same way our phones are built in China. The Tesla cars built in China are not worse than the ones built elsewhere. In fact, they're better than the ones built in US. For me it's more important that the actual design, engineering, software and service is done by westerners. The assembly being in China or Berlin matters fuck all to me really.

By the way I think the facelifted Polestar 2 won't be built in China. If they're moving it to Volvo's SPA3 platform, they will probably end up building it in one of their SPA3 factories in Europe.

>>29010726
It seems to be pretty reliable apart from the unintentional hot hatches. People seem to agree it's one of the best EVs for the money.

I need to charge....

>>29011409
Just plug in anywhere

>>28968402
Tech is moving fast, market is being flooded by cheap Chinese cars, very few people are buying electric cars outright, they're getting them on lease or PCPs

>>28968800
I've an MG3+ hybrid

Good:

Insanely good spec for the money. All around cameras, heated seats, remote heating/AC in a car at £20k?
Suprisingly nimble for the class of car.

Bad:
Visibility is pretty poor out the sides and rear (but you get huge amounts of driver aids to help this)
Completely failed an NCAP test due to the seat coming loose and crushing you against the dashboard (apparently fixed with the recall repair)
MPG isn't outstanding for a hybrid
Niggling bugs and issues (mostly software and UI stuff)
£500 service for a car that has done 10K miles. Nearest dealer is an hour drive away after my local dealer dropped the franchse. The 4th year service is over £1k. Generic service garages don't have the parts.

I've a narrow garage, I'd ideally like a car that's 170cm wide or less.

Is there even a remote chance of a 220mile range (winter + motorway speeds) EV that'll do that in the foreseeable future?

>>29012066
I asked ChatGPT and all I got were low range cars below your needs.

https://www.carsized.com/en/

I don't think you have any good EV options for a car that narrow and with that range. You're probably better off getting a tiny ICE car with good MPG. Small cars is the Achilles heel of EVs still.

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>>29012066
The humble Renault Twizy would like your attention

should I avoid french EVs? (I am fr*nch)

>>29013256
Renault Zoe and Twingo yes. The Renault 5 seems like a great car though. I'm not well versed in the ones Citroen are doing.

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>>29013256
Some are great (source I'm french too). Avoid stellantis shit of course (except the fiat 500 which is from a different platform I think ?).

Also, I love my car god damn it <3

>>29014314
The EX30 is awesome. It's a real bargain here. You can get a lease for very cheap. Not many cars that cheap that are also so fun to drive.

>>29014314
what's the issue with stellantis' EVs?

Boomers got mad i pulled 48 amps from their outlet and blew up their breaker box from 1974

>>29013419
Renault 5 is supposedly getting a more efficient upgrade next year which should make it even better. It's just that little bit under the range I need which is frustrating.

>>29014940
Yeah NEVER buy a Gen 1 EV. That's just asking for depreciation and frustration. R5 absolutely needs the extra 100km range to feel as a complete car.

Gonna go plug in

>>29014381
Chinese crap is always cheap

>>28982895
Same anon here. After 2 weeks with my new Tesla, I'm happy with it. It's a nice car. Just too expensive as a europoor.

>>29009450
How much you paid for yours and at what mileage? The pre facelift ones are looking like real bargain deals now

My Tesla won't update, and I have it on my Wi-fi

Charging

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>>29014381
Got it for 30k€ with a 1% credit over 6 years, used but with only 17k km so almost new. I bought 6kwc of solar on top of that to charge for free (already had 3kwc). Super fun to drive and it can tow, the only real problem I see with it is the DOGSHIT keyless entry. It almost never works right, which in many situation is worse than my 15yo car with a simple key fob with buttons on them.

>>29017713
Yeah 1% credit over 6 years basically makes it a 20k purchase with the way our clown economy is doing with record inflation every year. That car is going to save you a lot of money over the years.

If i buy something it will probably be the new Twingo. My commute isnt super long and for any other journey i have a much comfier and better ICE car.

>>29017777
Based. I'll buy one used in a few years for sure.

>>29017777
The Twingo is cheap Chinese crap. Buy a used BMW i3 instead. You get carbon fiber chassi and a very reliable drivetrain.

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Just lived my first week with a Jaguar I-Pace.
I'm never coming back to ICE vehicles. It's even better than I expected, because I'm surprisingly fine with 20-30 minute pit stops

>>29018462
...jfc bro

>>29018462
Once you go electric you never go back.

ICE could never