Don’t mind me, I’m just charging my car.
>>28975855Seeing as you never walk anywhere or use a sidewalk and only drive your 440 Challenger to get places I guess it's OK.
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>>28975855Thanks for the copper, sucker! I just hope the recycling place gives me enough money for it so I can get my next high!
>>28975855if i trip on that can i take them to court so they have to drive an automatic chevy cavalier?
>>28975913Worse. They'll have to trade in their soulless electric transport appliance and be forced to learn to drive stick.Still in a Chevy Cavalier is fine though.
>>28975855This shit is why EVs don't make sense.You need a dedicated charging location.No extension cords. >>28975913Homeowners insurance would cover it unfortunately.
>>28975855Something needs to be worked out for EV owners. That inlaid box near the rear wheel would make a handy charge port.
>>28976440It's illegal to have any cords on, above or below the sidewalk in most cities. The little box is probably a water shutoff. Adding charging ports to the existing above and below ground power lines would cost billions.
>>28976442They would have to draw from the homeowners own supply though. IDK how it can be worked out though. Just thinking out loud.
>>28976440Why, so we can accelerate the forced march to soulless electronic transport appliances that very few people actually want? Why should anyone work anything out for the small number of retards that willingly buy them?
>>28976443That would require fuckload of coring, trenching and extremely expensive thick wire. Plus most people's breaker panels can't even handle charging an EV. You would need to be pulling power directly from the power lines. Even most modern neighbourhoods being built can't handle a 100% EV adoption rate capacity wise.
>>28976444I don't own an EV and nor do I plan to buy one anytime soon. I'm just trying to be practical about it. Here's a setup they install in Suffolk England. It's just a gully strip.
boggles the mind people are buying these without a garage to charge them in
>>28975867>gets electrocuted
>>28976446Imagine the rage when that exact parking spot isn't available.>NOOOOOOO it's MY parking spot! MINE! I need it to charge my car MAN!
>>28975855I've seen an electric car be charged with a cable from the 10th floor of an apartment building.
>>28975855>ayo [smacks lips] gif me dat copper *snip*Did the car owners think this through?
>he bought an EV without a garage Do poors really?
>>28976458>puts on rubber high insulation gloves
>>28975867You will be filmed by the car. Enjoy the prison time Pedro.
>>28976564100%On-road parking fucking sucks, imagine coming back from work and being unable to park outside your own home. A driveway is non-negotiable must when buying a house.
>>28975855>unplugs your carSorry, it's not whether or not you're using someone else's power, or because I find electric cars negative in some way, it is just because I am inherently possessed by a trickster spirit and am forced to perform any hi-jinx, chicanery, ne'er-do-welling, pranking, tomfoolery, shenanigans or monkeyshine that I happen upon in order to satisfy the fay spirit's will.Fare thee well.
>>28976458>>28976697Don't worry about getting shocked if the handle is insulated and you aren't touching the metal. Worry about the explosion you cause when you cut multiple live conductors at the same time.
>>28975867mestizo Mexican fingers typed this
>>28975855Fucking amateur
>>28976743Don't the handles lock into the port specifically to prevent this?
>>28976673>he bought an EVHaving more money than brains isn't a flex.
>>28976445>most people's breaker panels can't even handle charging an EVyou can charge an EV off 15A 120V just fineit will just take a long time
>>28976392You need a dedicated refueling location for ICE. It's the same thing.
>>28976764Chinese EV shill hands typed this>Scrapping forever has been and forever will be a white man's sport>t. White trash sawzall enjoyer
>>28976743dis cracka kinda funny doe
>>28975855ahahah holy fuckin izzat sinkhole. shit looks so thirdie.
>>28975867ZAP!
>>28977028The scissors are plastic mongoloid.
>>28976806That doesn't work in the winter. All that power goes into conditioning the pack.
>>28977053maybe if it's -40 degreesJust the act of charging alone generates some heat.
The real point here that everyone is missing is that street parking is inhumane and uncivilized
>>28975867>creating problems for random strangers unprovokedyep youre brown
>>28977053do you really think you need 1.8kw to warm up a battery pack with nothing left over to charge?
>>28976764he didn't type anything
>>28976802They do. Though they have varying degrees of robustness. Type 2 and CCS are solidly locked (multiple lugs), NACS less so.
>>28976764>typed
>>28976564In some places, roadside parking isn't free-use. It's "public" only between something like 7 a.m. and 7 p.m. If it's 7:30 p.m. and the guy who lives at that street number comes home, you gotta move or the council will tow away your car.
>>28978180>Honey! Its 7:30pm! Go find and nag the man that parked in front of our house until he leaves so we can finally charge the car. Yeah. Much better.
>>28978316>Go find and nag the manor just have them towed at their expense?tow truck drivers LOVE fucking people over, it's their whole business model
>>28978326I don't know in what country you live in but in most cases to have vehicle towed you have to first report it to the traffic police, who then must come to the scene and verify that yes, that car needs to be towed and then for them to call whatever towing service they work with to come and tow the vehicle. This whole procedure can take hours and in the meantime the offending vehicle is free to leave the scene. All of this just so you can park two meters closer to your house so you can charge your car.This is a self inflicted humiliation ritual. I don't judge, people have their kinks.
>>28978180your mouth is free use.
>>28977917Try charging one at -40. >>289780881.8kw "isn't enough to run a kettle properly". You actually need more than that to warm a cold pack up enough to safely take a charge. Plugging into a 120v outlet to charge will actually drain your battery in some cases.
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>>28976800I've done the math and you can fully charge an EV with 1.5 to 2 gallons of gas, meaning it's more efficient than a gas engine at using gas as fuel. It would just take like 24 hours though to get a full charge.Those things run around 8 hours on 1 gallon of gas, then look up the amount of amps they give off per hour plus how much amps an EV needs to charge. Since I know someone will call BS but it's true.
>>28978957You know fuck all about generators or electricity. Let me guess... You're an engineer?
>>28978961I did the math and I'm not gonna do it again. Do the math retard. Gas can produce more electricity than motion in a combustion engine.
>>28978961gas/diesel electric is the most efficient way to use a combustion engine, its why they use it on ships, trains, and heavy machinery. The only downside is weight, which is why hybrid passenger cars are still somewhat niche, even then they're becoming more and more common.
>>28978965Go fucking buy one and try running it at full load for 8 hours. I have to camp with fucks running shitty cheap generators and they're refueling those things every hour and they're only running a couple TV's and some lights. >Gas can produce more electricity than motion in a combustion engine.Not on a small scale...>>28978976There's a reason why it's only used on big ass shit and that's because it's easier than doing shit fully mechanically. Yeah it's more efficient at that level but it never will be in anything realistically sized. Don't get series and parallel hybrids confused.
>>28978981>There's a reason why it's only used on big ass shitEREVs are a thing. Stellantis, VAG, Hyundai, and Ford all have new ones in the works.
>>28978987Ahh the Volt, the raging success. The piece of shit that needed premium and couldn't go up hills all for some mediocre fuel economy. j-just 2 more weeks! Lets see some real world results.
Owning an EV without a heated garage, at least in Canada is pants on head retarded
>>28978957If you count the raw (heating) energy content in gasoline this is true.But there is no way (and never will be because it's a thermodynamic principle) to get all of this out as mechanical or electrical energy.The best achievable with today's technology is around 40%.
>>28978993>Canada is pants on head retardedI agree.
>>28979026Look up the output of some top gas to electricity generators and how long they run on how many gallons. Look up the required input for a common EV. You can charge one with 1-2 gallons and I forget the amount of hours, but it's a lot. Easier obviously to plug it in, because you'd need to charge it while it's parked because of how long it'll take. I posted the math here a while ago and you retards claimed the same shit. You won't believe it unless you see it yourself I guess so I'm not doing it for you.
>>28979077Your math is broken somewhere or more likely you have overestimated the efficiency of the portable gas generators. You would need about 12 gallons and 12+ hours to fully charge an EV(lets say a model 3) with a portable generator assuming its about 20% efficient(and this is closer to a best case scenario). We will also assume that the generator can run without problems that long at a pretty high load, and the vast majority of them can't. Which means that:>Gas can produce more electricity than motion in a combustion engine.is obviously wrong in this scenario. (and generally. EREVs aren't as efficient as HEVs and sometimes are less efficient than turbo mhevs)Still an EV will get 17 to 22 mpg from those 13 gallons of gas and a relatively modern average gas car would get about 32 mpg. Which is still very impressive if you think about it.
>>28979194Even Chatgpt gave the same estimate, I was only wrong that a high output can sip a gallon per hour. Still more efficient than a gas engine. You're not acknowledging that these are two different methods of powering a car, the electric motor is not the same as an ICE. Yes a battery can be charged with less gas than an ICE uses, and that charge can go a longer distance than the ICE would go. The math is there, 5-8 gallons and 6.5-8 hours for a full charge. Really not even that bad.>How long would it take a DuroMax XP11000iHT to fully charge a Tesla model 3?>For a Tesla Model 3 RWD (roughly 57–60 kWh usable battery) powered from a DuroMax XP11000iHT running on gasoline, a realistic estimate is:>From nearly empty to 100%: about 6.5–8 hours>From 20% to 80%: about 4–5 hours>From 50% to 80%: about 2–2.5 hours>This assumes:>You're using the generator's 240 V output with a compatible Tesla charging setup.>The generator can continuously supply around 7–9 kW to the car.>The Tesla's onboard charger is not being limited by the EVSE or generator settings.>Fuel consumption estimate>The battery will need roughly 60–65 kWh from the generator once charging losses are included. A gasoline generator producing 7–9 kW for 7–8 hours typically burns on the order of 5–8 gallons of gasoline, depending on load, temperature, and operating conditions.I don't even like EVs, but the concept of a multifuel engine intrigues me. A generator attached to the back can take gas, propane, or natural gas. I'd still rather have a PHEV which is essentially an EV and gas car at the same time.
>>28979228>the concept of a multifuel engine intrigues me. Get a renault then. Bi-fuel engines are their signature move.>A generator attached to the back can take gas, propane, or natural gas.EREVs don't work(that well). They cost more and are less efficient than HEVs. All you get in return is that they feel more like an EV to drive. A better compromise would be Hondas e:HEV system, although listening to a civic make vroom vroom noises from the speakers and pretending to change gears from a CVT is one of the most cringe experiences I ever had in a car.> PHEV which is essentially an EV and gas car at the same time.Yes, and they are literally worse than both. They manage to combine a pitiful EV range with some of the less efficient and worse handling gas driving in the last 20 years. They depreciate as much as EVs do and are less reliable than ICEV. The only reason they exist besides midwits with range anxiety that can't afford a second car is because they can claim 300mpg and thus be exempt of a lot of environmental taxes.
>>28978976It’s not at all an efficient process, it’s only done on ships and trains because of the torque needed to move them. Converting between energy types is always going to be less efficient.
>>28979228This is a very stupid way of approaching the problem, except that it gives a reasonable estimate.Consider: https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=65kWh%2F%28%28%28%28gasoline+hhv%29*%28gasoline+density%29%29*0.3%29+*+1+gallon%29Returns 6 gallons to charge your 65kWh Tesla at 30% efficiency. At a more realistic 23.5% efficiency, it'd be 7.7 gallons. Based on edmunds reported ~4mi/kWh for the RWD Model 3, you'd be getting ~34 mpg which is pretty good but also a long way off from say a plug-in Prius at 57+
>>28978884struck a nerve?
>>28979699YEP
>>28976751stinku a shit
>>28978993Owing any car, anywhere, without a garage id
