can you possibly post more examples of what these cameras look like?

>>28983886
Property destruction is nigger behavior.

>>28983935
The property of people who actively want you dead and broke? Then paint me black and call me dayquan

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>>28983935
I did not give you niggers the right to collect my information or film me.
I will destroy your equipment if I spot it and have the free time to do so.

>>28983935
Wrinked Reagan loving hands typed this post.

>>28983940
take a stroll around suburbia. they average more than 1 camera per house. nice neighborhoods, poor neighborhoods, anywhere. and those cameras aren't recording on prem. they're sending the feed who knows where. it's far too late. you cannot win

>>28983935
Not when its bathrooms or surveillance tools.
Everyone knows that retard.

>>28983949
I can if I start flashing my penis at ring cameras with regularity.

Its not illegal if no one sees it.

>>28983886
If you have a truck and aren't actively backing into these things when you see them then you're a failed man.

I sure do love having an expectation of privacy in public.

you have no expectation of privacy in public
>>28983886
source on corporations using flock data to track people? as a white, law abiding person that minds his own business, the police being able to track suspects and find them easilyer is a good thing, actually
>>28983935
real and true

>>28983949
i dont give a fuck what private citizens survail on their own property you niggerfaggot, they dont have palantir jeets combing their data.

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>>28984018
He's saying they're NOT local but upload to the cloud where they get scanned by AI or jeets or whatever, just like the ALPR cams.

>>28984013
What i believe to be right trumps any law
Sorry, im still going to vandalize your cameras :^)

>>28984060
You can believe whatever you want from your jail cell. Hope you don't get a horny bunkie

Could one not contend that this amounts to stalking?

>>28983935
nice try, jew. sowing racial divide is your oldest trick

>>28984071
sure, and it's a violation of 4th amendment / 3rd amendment rights as well from a certain angle if youre a burgermutt

should be no surprise really, any state effectively maintains a monopoly on the legal use of violence and stalking to enforce the laws of the land. doesnt make it morally right, of course

>>28984080
It boggles my mind.
Anyone would be upset if every time they left their property a man would follow them, occasionally jotting notes or taking pictures, but a bunch of machines and software does it and no one says much?
We are human beings, there has to be a good balance of this sort of thing.
15-20 years ago we were told China was evil because they had a surveillance system, now we have it and everyone just submits?

>>28984067
Enjoy licking that boot my friend

>>28984087
No one says much because it's awesome. Part of human nature is to learn. There's a natural aversion to anything new being introduced into your environment. The difference between us and apes is we're capable of analyzing the new thing and evaluating it passing educated judgement instead of just instinctively smashing it with a rock.

>>28984071
Police officers have used them to stalk people, exes for example

>>28984087
Out of sight, out of mind

>>28984121
>being constantly watched, eavesdropped, analyzed, and archived is awesome
faggot

>>28984132
That anon is trolling. Anything that people feel strongly about will be rife with trolls trying to bait rageposts.
He even gives himself away, as humans are very literally apes.

>>28984132
>being constantly watched, eavesdropped, analyzed, and archived is awesome
No one said anything about eavesdropping or being "analyzed". But cameras in public, sure. You're in public. If you don't want people seeing you in public then don't be in public.

>>28984258
Bait or retard? These systems log information and create profiles based on it. It's not just a video recording there to be accessed when needed, it's logging data on you specifically and saving a child database on you specifically that can be accessed whenever for whatever. Not even remotely similar to a simple security camera archiving video.

They are already causing problems with circumstantial and/or incorrect "ai" analyzing even in their infancy. Le heckin slippery slope goy

>>28984077
Who founded the NAACP? Who were the presidents of the NAACP? Who wrote the I have a dream speech?

>>28983886
I tell every tweeker I see those cameras are filled with highly valuable parts just waiting to be harvested. Might as well make them useful for something.

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>>28984280
You can't fool me.
The easiest way to win a battle is to divide your enemy or introduce them to a new "other" enemy. You don't have to raise a fist, they'll destroy each other.
That anon was right.

>>28984258
So just hide in your house forever?

>>28984291
Don't you know? You have no currently legal expectation of privacy in your own house if you have internet-connected devices. Cell phone, PC, that little tablet your wife put into the kitchen tied to amazon? Legally they have no expectation of privacy and everything you say can be recorded and AI analyzed.
I agree, that's not okay. The wildest thing, is that they make people pay money to be surveilled. Absolutely wild, yet they still don't solve half of murder cases.

>>28983935
kill yourself, kike

>>28984270
Oh wow. They're creating an evil nefarious profile of all my most personal information like, where I live and where I work. There's no other way the government could ever gain access to that information.

>>28984319
They legally cannot without a warrant. But they can pay for “independent” companies to do the surveillance for them. Much like how Five Eyes countries spy on each other’s citizens and “share” the info to bypass not being legally able to surveillance your own citizens.

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>>28984282
someone leaked a pic of what they look like inside, be sure to pass it on

>>28984319
most retarded goy award

>>28983886
That kinda just looks like someone DUI'd their car into a pole.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5NqO2v_xnY

>>28983935
No real American supports Chinese tier surveillance states.

>>28983886
These are used to catch a lot of criminals. If your house or car gets broken into, police can use it to see what vehicles were in the area. It's led to a lot of suspect leads and arrests in my experience.

I think this is one of those things were you don't even know what they're actually being used for. The government does not care when you go to the grocery store. It's not tracking you, it doesn't have the capacity to track everyone. I'm one guy responsible for securing a beat area of 30,000 people. I can't watch all your property at once. This is a useful tool, though it's up for debate whether it's worth the perceived privacy invasion.

>>28984013
If corporations are legally people, why are they allowed to stalk everyone, but I get a restraining order for following a single person?

>>28984638
The government may not care, but whoever else this information gets sold to does.

>>28984121
Constant, intrusive surveillance is not “awesome”. The US government has a track record of using private companies as shadow agents to violate your rights in ways they cannot do directly. This system will be, and probably already is being, abused.

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>>28983935
Self defense law says I can take whatever steps are necessary to end a threat. If there's a less violent way to end the threat than this I'm happy to listen.

>>28983935
>>28984638
>Convince goyim the incredibly invasive surveillance is for tracking serious law breakers who destroy property, steal, commit violet crime, etc
>Begin enforcing the laws more harshly, even as far as driving 1 mile per hour over the speed limit, jay walking, curfew, etc by issuing fines, deploying LEO, and mailing warnings
>Well shit maybe flock cameras are bad

>>28984659
There's no slippery slope, they aren't going to track everyone [they are], and I trust that no future government will use this against people who disagree with them. That would never happen. No way.

>2001
>"If you're not a terrorist you have nothing to fear."

>2007
>"24/7 tracking is necessary so you can check Facebook on your iphone from the gas station shitter."

>2017
>"Online surveillance of literally everyone is vital because arresting people for tweets is the only way to stop Putin"

>2026
>"We don't have to justify shit anymore, it's been decades since you had any prayer of stopping us."

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found it like this. i swear

>>28984638
>It's not tracking you, it doesn't have the capacity to track everyone.
lol
lmao even
how do you think they have a searchable database of every car that drives past the fucking thing, anon?

That’s white girl behavior

>>28983886
>>28984699
>destroying the $20 steel post that can be replaced in an hour while leaving the electronics totally undamaged

>>28984712
aluminum pole. also this has been down for 6 weeks now. that's 6 weeks flock isn't getting to view the public in that location.

>>28984713
impressively slow response time on them, would've thought them to be quicker to replace destroyed ones

>>28983886
Drove an hour away for a root canal recently, live in a small rural community, and every place I passed through was rural.
Saw quite literally just about a dozen flock cameras over the trip.
I didn't think they were that widespread yet, jesus christ. Why the fuck are they putting them up even in bumfuck nowhere? Who is even paying for this as I know sure as shit the towns and counties I drove through can't afford that shit.

>>28984721
>Who is even paying for this
They will literally just put them up without telling anybody

>>28984721
Is this an everywhere problem or one of those issues that only affects the lefty shithole states? I don't remember ever seeing one but I also wasn't really aware they were a thing until this thread so I could've missed thousands of them.

>>28984732
I live in rural Kentucky, so it's an everywhere problem.

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>>28984721
The cities usually get it for free in a deal with flock or motorola. The financial backer for flock is A16Z, a venture capital firm started by Marc Andreesan and Ben (((Horowitz))).
>(((Founders Fund))) venture capital
>(((Kleiner Perkins))) venture capital
>(((Tiger Global))) venture capital
I only took a few minutes to check, but the four here in the post all have small hats in founder positions. I suspect Meritech Capital's Craig Sherman is too.

>>28984747
>The cities usually get it for free
nvm, they usually pay. An affluent area nearby got theirs for free.

>>28983935
What kind of behaviour is leeching off of everyday citizens?

>>28984647
Big data isn't buying that info, they don't have access to databases to see who those plates are registered to. Only law enforcement agencies have access to see who the plates are actually registered to. Their business model is having private entities host their cameras for a fee paid to them, and then sell subscriptions for the plate hit data to law enforcement agencies. The LEAs then use it to track stolen vehicles and other crime suspects.

The data is limited to plates only for the most part. It uses AI to guess what the make and model of the vehicle are, but it's almost always wrong so that's a useless feature (meaning it can't track vehicles with their plates covered or removed, and even so it just tracks a vague description ie: gray Toyota went southbound on this street at this time, along with a photo). It's honestly pretty shitty and jeet coded. Motorola has their own cameras too, it's not just Flock, there are multiple companies selling that type of service. You also have to consider boycotting the companies that allow them in their parking lots. They're all privately hosted afaik.

This is just to give you a glimpse of what it does on the LE end. I've used it to find home burglary suspects and people with warrants, and not petty misdemeanor shit. If you want them banned in your locality you'd have to petition and bring the issue to your city/county council. Understand a counterargument will be made because they are useful in solving crime. Paranoid schizophrenic delusions of self-importance may not be enough to sway the community.

>>28984701
They are not tracking you specifically, no one is. There's no "list" of 4chan users. There are no lists at all anywhere. There are only active investigations, and you're almost always contacted if you're under one, or would know because you're up to some shady enough shit to attract LE attention in this shithole society where they're so far stretched. I'd be more worried about being a drug dealer and being tracked. You don't have shit to worry about. I've posted borderline terroristic threats on 4chan for decades and have never failed a background check.

So you're not being targeted, they're just recording in public, which is legal. You know all those first amendment auditors that have been screaming that for so long? That was all a setup to get Flock cameras allowed. Now the government has tons of precedent cases to reference when you whine that filming in public shouldn't be allowed.

>>28984768
This will be difficult for a welfare baby cop to understand, but I don't give a fuck about solving petty tweaker crime or catching people driving to work with a suspended in exchange for normalizing a constant gray area warrantless surveillance precedent.

>>28984773
Nailing you for your dumb 4chan posts isn't worth enough to them to expose their power level. Do you understand how cheap it is to store data like this? Why *wouldn't* they keep it all? Then when they do have a reason to fuck you over someday they can run a search on you and instantly have a list of every time you scratched your ass in public in the last ten years.

>>28984775
This
complete mosaic tracking under the digital surveillance panopticon all without a warrant
It's no longer a schizophrenic fever dream.

>>28984775
Data corporations do not have a way of running your plates. If I check a Flock camera hit, it gives me a plate, I then have to run that plate in our separate state DMV database which is only accessible to DMV and law enforcement. I can't even see who's driving the vehicle, the recorded pics are nowhere near that high quality. Big Data might have access to your social media posts to run your face against a database and find out who you are. They do not have access to the DMV database to run your face against those photos and find out who you are. Again, even if the camera captures a smudge of your face, it's not even going to be useful in identifying you. That's how low quality the photos are.

I understand still it's RECORDING YOU IN PUBLIC (which according to 1A auditors e everyone has the right to do) but your concerns are over the top. It's shitty technology that's a one-trick pony. I'd be more concerned with store surveillance cameras which get a good look at your face, which can then be cross referenced with social media pics. They can't get shit from your car or if you have no social media, unless they have access to DMV records, which would be really fucked up and that's what you'd need to make a case against. If private corporations have access to DMV databases, that shit needs to be addressed and stopped. What's currently happening is they're just filming in public which auditors have already won lawsuits confirming it's legal, so they kinda already fucked us...

>>28984768
>The data is limited to plates only for the most part
they store people by their appearance, and people can be searched as well in the database. it tracks everything

>>28984776
Ok but an auditor can stand outside and film people coming and going everyday and use those recordings for whatever purpose? A company is just doing the same thing in a more competent scale, and then if the government requests the data they can have access to it. Just like seizing the auditors camera as evidence if it had useful info on solving a crime.

Schizos already fucked themselves on this one.

>>28984784
It does not do that. I can log onto it right now and it literally only has an option for cars. Both Flock and Motorola MVLS. You're being schizo and making shit up.

>>28984786
Is it possible that you, as a regular cop, don't have full access to all of the search parameters?

>>28984786
You aren't a flock employee, who has been able to access school cameras

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/flock-safety-employees-watched-kids-181539475.html
>On July 23, 2025, Flock's Randy Gluck viewed cameras labeled "Gym Mendel – 1" and "Main Pool Right." On September 30, 2025, Vice President Bob Carter accessed the "Gymnastics" camera.
>These weren't security emergencies or system maintenance. They were sales pitches—Flock showing off their surveillance capabilities to prospective police department clients by streaming live footage of children.

>>28984796
It's literally defined and marketed as an LPR (license plate reader). That is all it does, reads license plates. You're a schizo making shit up while simultaneously carrying the most potent spying device around in your fucking pocket all day.

>>28984800
Ok, that's like any other security camera system anyone can install. We're talking about the LPRs being put in public. I wouldn't have ti be mean if you weren't being retarded. Make a valid argument, you don't even understand the system.

>>28984801
I'm a different anon, and I was politely asking a serious question.
>muh phone
Carrying a phone is a choice.

>>28984773
Every vehicle that passes one of these cameras has its information logged in a searchable database. This includes your plate number, obviously, but also the visual characteristics of your car as determined by a computer vision algorithm. Make, model, body style, color, # of doors, any stickers or markings, etc.

>>28984807
>Make, model, body style, color, # of doors, any stickers or markings, etc

No, just the make and color, and it gets it wrong half the time if not more. Meaning around 50% of the time it gets the MAKE wrong, the big logos on front and back of the cars, and the color which should be easy enough. The program is jeet coded garbage, you're way too paranoid about it when it doesn't do shit. Just get a remote controlled license plate cover, wear a mask. Stop being a pussy. Being tracked is a choice.

>>28984801
How do not know they also are equipped with microphones? Their website even has it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fY7ZKA3Ex0
https://www.flocksafety.com/distress-early-access

For touting being someone with access to flock systems you are very out of touch.

>>28984814
I just don't think a private company should be allowed to push this shit unchecked. Currently, the only thing stopping them from feeding this data into more invasive algorithms, facial/gait recognition etc. is the PR shitstorm that would erupt from it.

>>28984801
>Phones are the most potent spying device
>There's no room for phone-device-spy-equipment in a FLOCK
Do you eat shit from your own asshole?
Insane that you assume everyone carries their phone.

>>28984818
What PR shitstorm?
They literally do not care because the PR shitstorm fallout is *literally* nothing.

Bootlicking welfare baby cop thinks he's "in the know" (he isnt) and that his retarded ideals align with the majority (also wrong)

hiding this retarded thread

>>28984815
>pilot program announcement from a 1 month old news story

Yeah it's not implemented, stop being a lying retard. You're making Flock look like the good guys when you lie.

>>28984854
I've told you how they work, how to avoid them, how to get them banned from your locality, and even which companies to boycott who are putting them up along their parking lots facing the road. The "opposition" is only saying stupid shit that isn't true. At least now you have a better understanding of what they are, imo a lame bullshit business model to get government contracts. I'm not even for them, you're just spouting schizo shit and needed to be educated.

Ur pl8s are in da DATA BASE

>>28984981
POV youre registering your car at the dmv (front for secret government megacorporation tracking and stalking of citizens)

>>28984638
>These are used to catch a lot of criminals. If your house or car gets broken into, police can use it to see what vehicles were in the area. It's led to a lot of suspect leads and arrests in my experience.
max IQ to believe this? police don't give a fuck about property crimes unless you're rich or politically connected.

>>28984773
Why do you think the elites and governments are hedging everything on AI? For generating cat videos? Lol

>>28984732
>only affects the lefty shithole states
opposite, it's red states and areas that love them ("if you have nothing to hide!"), lefty cities are banning them.

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>>28984732
This map is wildly incomplete. For example, the camera in the OP is not included.

>>28984013
Tracking someones every move is stalking. Of course when it is done by a corporation it is "data collection".

>>28984833
People are already pretty pissed about the proliferation of these cameras. Actually flipping the facial recognition switch that 100% already exists in their backend would amplify things quite a bit.

>>28983886
>>28983935
kike property destruction is God's work

>>28983886
Terrible installation, that pole should have been thicker.
Buy cheap, buy twice.

>>28983949
Poor neighborhoods don’t have these

>>28984676
>>And the last guy who tried to stop us is still exiled in Russia

>>28984121
I've evaluated it, passed judgement on flock cameras. My educated opinion is that they need to be smashed with a rock.

>>28983935
This unironically highlights the absurdity of modern white nationalism.
Whites pride themselves on being orderly, rule-following, etc. unlike the "niggers" who kill anyone who dishonors them (savage behavior!), but then are surprised that they get ruthlessly exploited by da joooos or whoever.

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>>28983935
wtf I love niggers now

>>28985608
You're not actually too stupid to see the difference, correct?

>>28983935
Masterfull b8

>>28983935
flock puts their cameras on other people's property without permission

>>28984638
>The government does not care when you go to the grocery store. It's not tracking you, it doesn't have the capacity to track everyone. I'm one guy responsible for securing a beat area of 30,000 people. I can't watch all your property at once.
the whole point of Flock is to eventually train an AI system that actually can "watch" every camera all the time and make decisions on the information without human input

>>28985698
Shhhh... Things never change, what are you talking about? This is clearly as far as anyone will take it.

>>28985698
Yeah but how does it really affect you? Oh no they know when I'm going to the grocery store. Why do you think you're even important enough to be stalked?
Meanwhile the same system is tracking the location of a car being driven by a suspect in a crime, and police are able to safely apprehend him when they can instead of engaging in risky high speed pursuits endangering the lives of innocent civilians.

>>28985746
>Yeah but how does it really affect you?
I disagree with mass surveillance on principle and some psychological studies show that constant surveillance has a negative impact on mental health

>>28985756
>I disagree with mass surveillance on principle
That sounds like a personal problem

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>>28983886
I used to not like flock but now that libtards are crying about it being used to track PoCs and immigrants and people trying to cross state lines for abortions, I don't care anymore
what's funny is once trump is out of office all these libtards will stop talking about flock entirely
I've been talking about flock since 2020, y'all are too slow

>>28985746
>Yeah but how does it really affect you?
Nigga are you really asking how a Chinese social credit system run by foreign nationals at the behest of a foreign government affects people?

>>28986115
Holy tinfoil hats Batman

>>28986120
Palantir's executives have explicitly stated numerous times that a social credit system is their goal. You can call that a conspiracy theory if you want, but don't forget what happens to traitors.

Flock helps catch criminals
Of course /o/ hates them and promotes chimp behavior

>>28986130
street racing is not a crime.

>>28984786
you not having access to the inner workings of the Flock software suite is the same as a bank teller not knowing all the ins and outs of all of the banks dealings. You have no idea what they actually track BUT there are several articles that you can look at that do tell you what they search and store. Recently (as in yesterday) they flagged a guy giving a middle finger for further investigation.

>>28983886
Based

>>28983886
Privacy implications aside, why is it just tilting like that? I'm pretty sure most roadsite installations (excluding power lines) require break away poles. Shit is gonna get someone killed eventually having it be that solid.

>>28987490
the poles are not DOT approved, they are technically not legal to install by the roadway. they get away with it because the DOT turns the other way.

>>28987490
It's clearly broken ... Did you think they designed it so the camera faced straight down at the ground?

>>28987490
It's just aluminum tube >>28984699

>>28984712
>while leaving the electronics totally undamaged
You don't leave them, you take them. They're incredibly easy to hack and are a free way to get solar powered, wireless home security. And a lot of them are only held on by a hose clamp btw.

>>28986122
I 100% support a social credit system.

>>28988228
>the cameras in the street are free, you can take them home

>>28983935
So is stealing, but I don't see you calling insurance companies, hospitals, politicians, government officials, county legal systems, and major corporations niggers.

>>28988356
Those aren't niggers those are jews (and joomers, the idolizers of jews)

>>28983935
Making money at other's people's expense is another.

>>28984747
Glad more people are waking up. But we’re cooked and it’s a false illusion, honestly playing right into their hand.

Honest question fellas, south or Central America a realistic option as a white man with two white children under 2

>>28984018
yeah a company like ring would never partner with a company like flock to expand surveillance. a ring camera would never create a wifi network that constantly pings and tracks any wifi enabled device. ring data is totally privately owned and not immediately submitted to amazon cloud.

>>28983935
good goyim.

>>28990027
>removing jewish trickery is goy behavior
>leaving jewish trickery is goy behavior

>>28983886
Based

>>28989978
seems kinda dumb to worry about when they can already ping your phone with towers, unless you are maybe staring straight at them with your face they probably cannot positively id you.

>>28983949
>take a stroll around suburbia. they average more than 1 camera per house
>>28984018
>i dont give a fuck what private citizens survail on their own property you niggerfaggot, they dont have palantir jeets combing their data.

They literally do. Ring Cameras is owned by Amazon. All that camera data is uploaded to cloud data centers. We already know that they have access to that data and use it, because it has been used in missing person's cases like the Savannah Guthrie's mom case. That's when we learned Amazon holds onto the video footage and can reference it at any time to assist law enforcement.

>>28991807
>seems kinda dumb to worry about when they can already ping your phone with towers

Yeah, why should I care about the Flock Cameras? Can anyone give me a good reason to care?

We all have smartphones in our pockets. Snowden's revelations back in 2013 basically proved that all smartphones are just tracking devices. If you have a smartphone on you, then your location is being tracked. If you are suspected of a serious crime, the police can use your phone number to contact your cell service provider and have them print out your last known locations based on your phone's GPS location. We know that facebook and google and all social media companies actively use your phone's microphone to pick up on what you and those around you are saying in order to better advertise to you. We know they cross reference this with the location data of your phone to better advertise to you.

As much as I dont like the idea of widespread license plate scanners, why should I really care? How is this any worse than the existing level of surveillance we already buy into?

>>28993341
>because it has been used in missing person's cases like the Savannah Guthrie's mom case
That makes me wonder. How, with all the technical surveillance, all the cameras, everything, they still can't solve that disappearance?
Cameras everywhere yet nothing to point to anything helpful. So if they're not helping to combat crime, they're just helping to surveil >you< and you say well.. why should you care? Because the more you give the more they'll take. Every day we get a little bit closer to the complete and utter loss of privacy. For now, you can still de-google, use a dumbphone, hell, not even use a phone at all. But with helpful idiots like (you) there will become a point where there is no escape, there will no longer be a place you can go to without prying eyes.
EVERY attempt to encroach upon people's privacy should be fought tooth and nail, the two major reasons it's already gotten this far is people who either
>don't care, like you
or
>think it's just going to help make us safer!
Both are wrong.

>>28993356
You know, in the whole thread you've never actually given a reason why you think surveillance is bad. You just saying "muh privacy" but it's been repeated numerous times that you don't get privacy in public. Do you even actually have a single thought or reason behind your stance at all? You're passionately argumentative yet never actually say anything.

>>28993563
Nobody cares if you don't think that's a good enough reason. The world doesn't revolve around you.

>>28993564
Okay well then right back at ya pal. It's funny how you've been stewing in this thread for a week now and the first time anyone actually shows interest in why you believe what you believe, you fold with zero hesitation.

>>28993341
>Yeah, why should I care about the Flock Cameras? Can anyone give me a good reason to care?
because they're placed in public, almost exactly like those faggy euro speed trap cameras that we don't need.

>>28993563
Yeah dude fuck privacy who needs it
unless you're low life criminal. Don't break the law and you have zero use for privacy amirite

>>28983949
What is societal collapse?

>>28983949
What do you have to hide so bad?
>muh dont record meeeee
Too bad you're a black criminal

>i have a expectation of privacy in public, the thread

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>>28993563
I don't want faceless corporations storing and collating every last speck of information about me and using it to create an analytical profile that I have no control over.

Also literally any freak can gain access to these cameras and use them to watch your kids play in the park while they beat off from the safety and comfort of their own home.

>>28993563
goy IQ hard at work.

>>28993666
Yeah.
Explain to me how society is benefited from you being able to drive to the grocery store without the government knowing.

>>28993718
Strawman argument. We're not talking about some theoretical conspiritorial Fahrenheit 451 1984 Minority Report world. We're talking about license plate readers.

>>28993732
Nothing theoretical about it.

>>28993732
My town literally uses flock cameras to track people. It costs them 5 minutes on a money to okay thousands of unchecked warrants to track citizens for whatever reason a pig wanted.
And that's just the local not whatever Amazon does with it

>>28993743
>My town literally uses flock cameras to track people
Yeah that's kind of the point...

>>28993563
>it's been repeated numerous times that you don't get privacy in public
It's time for us to start demanding privacy in public

>>28994123
And how do you plan on accomplishing this? How are you going to walk down the sidewalk or through a park and ensure no one looks at you? What should be the punishment for looking at someone?

>>28994167
It’s called stalking.
You have a right not to be stalked in public.

>>28994170
You would have a very hard time convincing a jury that someone sitting on a bench that looked at you as you walked by was "stalking" you

>>28983935
>>28983940
reminder: in civilized cultures (Japan), doing what flock is doing is literally illegal (stalking + invasion of privacy).
It’s also illegal in the US, but for some reason you guys fall for jewish pilpul (“it’s not stalking if a jew does it! photographing your every movement and reporting it directly to the police isn’t a violation of the 4th amendment because there’s a middleman involved!”)

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>>28994193
lmao

>>28994197
NTA I don't care about the specific whatever details.
You can set up cameras in your business or protect gov't infrastructure, but having cameras and scanners that log you every half a mile isn't much different from some stalker following you and photographing you.
Putting in a robot as a middleman doesn't not make it stalking.

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>>28994211
I don't know what to tell you man. The people who make the law and the people who enforce the law disagree with you on the legality of it. It is objectively, factually, demonstrably not illegal. You can believe it to be unethical and perhaps immoral but at the very least it isn't illegal. That part isn't really debatable

>>28994251
Oh I'm quite aware. But, it's our right as citizens of a democratic republic to speak our minds and push back.
If I don't like something that someone else does to me, I don't stand there, take it, and tell others that they should be powerbottoms, too.

>>28994255
Just because you do something doesn't mean something will happen.

>>28994266
sometimes all it takes is a breath to bring about the wind of change

Placing plastic bags over the cameras is a mere littering charge.

>>28994586
What if the bag was already on the ground and I simply moved it?

>>28984638
>It's not tracking you, it doesn't have the capacity
That's what the new AI data centers are for. Every camera on the earth that is not closed circuit will be feeding a database that self-regulates everything.

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>looking at the candidates in the primary to see which ones are the anti flock ones
>tfw there are no anti flock candidates

>>28994167
>being looked at by random human plebs on the street
>having your every movement outdoors filmed and cataloged in a database
these are not the same, anon

>>28993341
Leave your phone at home?

>>28994251
>but at the very least it isn't illegal.
yeah, because it's a new use of technology that previous laws haven't had to cope with previously

If I hired 10,000 people to sit on every street corner in your town and told them to record every detail of every car that passed them
it's not technically illegal
then I sell that information to businesses, or whoever wants it and hey guess what! the cops are really interested in this information too so I partner with your local government who has preferential access to your information and they give me designated spots for my 10k people in exchange for free access to everything they record

so do you want to make eye contact with a person on every corner every time you leave your house who you know is perfectly recording every detail of your vehicle and yourself who then turns around and sells that data to whoever wants it AND makes it available to any government entity who desires it?
also YOU are paying for them to put these recorders in place through your taxes
also all this data is being held by some 3rd party company with no oversight or requirements for security and a whole host of random police who just have free access and have demonstrated many times that they can use it to stalk people

>>28995050
thanks for the essay. flock cameras are good bc it looks for criminals, simple as

>>28994647
kicking a can 3 times makes it possession.

>>28996092
ya if you have nothing to hide then whats the porblem just dont be a niger no issue which is a good thing bc it actually protects us blacks and other such detritus so in fact it makes society better and safer and more effective

>>28983886
the only upside from these cameras is if someone does a hit and run then the cops cause them to get all stirred up and make the news

>>28996092
>Criminals
We have constant regime changes in our government. All it takes is a new administration to sign an executive order saying that what you do, say, or believe in is criminal (that would never happen, totally) because your views don’t align with the political party in power. And you want them to inherit such tech? Now, you’re a criminal.
I don’t think you’re being serious or maybe you hadn’t thought it out long term.

>>28996101
objective criminals that the police are already looking for, zero reason to be this dense making shit up

>>28984364
yoo they have gold bars in them?? shieeet

>>28985815
>I've been talking about flock since 2020, y'all are too slow
All I have ever seen you do is act smug on /o/ and /k/ about how you are so much better than everyone else, also that you are gay. Other than that I have never seen you say anything else, loser.

>>28996456
Juden we can see you just relax rabbi we know you know we know its you

>>28996094
I have nothing to hide, but also nothing to share. I shouldn't have to air out my entire life for everyone to see just because some retarded moderniggers became to complacent with putting their every little thoughts on the shitternet.

>>28996615
youre trying too hard

>>28996660
He seems to be calling the poster out a rather appropriate amount based on their behavior compared with historical data

>>28983935
Have you heard of the Boston Tea Party?

>>28983949
Everyone can just take the cameras down. They were like $50 on Amazon

>>28984013
You do have that. No one is O.K. with the idea of someone going around keeping tabs on someone's whereabouts and tracking them unconcensually, and everyone is really against a corporation and the government doing it even more so than they would be some random weirdo doing it.

The only reason they're even doing this is because Zionists are mad everyone vocally hates antichrists now.

>>28984013
I know you're being a sardonic fag, but wouldn't it be nice to be able to go outside without the threat of being constantly recorded, like people have done for millennia?

>>28996954
It's nicer being able to go outside when criminals are both actively discouraged from committing crimes in view of cameras and also more likely to be captured after committing crimes and therefore less likely to be near me when I'm outside.
This is also hypothetical because, as has been repeated ad naseum in this thread, these are fucking license plate readers you goddamn dipshit.

>>28996954
He's going to keep being a contrarian no matter what. That's the retarded game these niggershelf toiletjockeys like to play with everyone since they have nothing else going for them. This is why I don't bother taking any of them seriously and just call them names instead.

>>28996963
>these are fucking license plate readers you goddamn dipshit
how do they read the license plates, anon?

>>28983935
not when it's surveillance equipment designed to oppress the people

>>28983949
>you cannot win
don't care
still worth the effort

>>28996966
bro actually thinks the purpose of a debate is to convince the other person

>>28996969
I don't know maybe using the gigantic camera attack to them? That's how I would do it. Turns out cameras are great ways of converting visible things into a digital format.

>>28997039
and what do you think the camera is doing if not recording video?

>>28993662
>because they're placed in public, almost exactly like those faggy euro speed trap cameras that we don't need.

so the fuck what? They aren't giving out speeding tickets or being used as red light cameras. They just aggregate data. If you're in public you have no expectation of privacy. Just like you can walk down a street and record people with your phone, you can also be recorded! And they only use it to catch murderers and serious criminals. What's the issue?

>>28995039
>Leave your phone at home?

This isn't a realistic option in 2026. It wasn't even a realistic option in 2016 or 2010. Leaving the house without a phone hasn't been commonplace or rational since the late 90s and very early 2000s

>>28997177
Is it really cheaper to put up all those cameras to catch criminals than it is to just send every negro back to africa?

>>28997177
>bro i cant just not bring my phone everywhere bro I need google maps cuz i have poor navigational skills and i have to be on 4chan 24/7 or else ill be BORED
lmao you sound so pathetic

>>28997036
Then what's the point? If debating is a hobby to you then you need to find something better to do.

>>28997177
Goodest goy, thank you for your complacency

>>28997201
critical thinking skills at an all time low
>what's the point
think about it for 2 seconds. are we the only two people here? have you considered im not actually talking to *you* at all?

>>28984712
It costs local taxpayers hundreds to replace the pole. Which is good. They’re not out there welding the pole you fucking tard. We’re talking goyslaves going out in a van, re-mounting the pole, recalibrating the camera, doing fuck all to take all of their money before driving away.

If you make the contract too expensive for your local council to handle, they’ll be gone in no time

>>28998042
>It costs local taxpayers hundreds to replace the pole.
Flock generally puts these up out of their own pocket then charges municipalities for access to the system.

>>28997177
>If you're in public you have no expectation of privacy. Just like you can walk down a street and record people with your phone, you can also be recorded!
i dont mind being in-frame of someone filmimg but if you get within 20 ft of me and point it at my face like a prick im busting your fuckin camera retard.

>>28998429
Congratulations on your assault and battery charges.

>>28998440
What are they gonna do, call 911 with their broken-in-half phone? Keklmao

>>28983886

I was against them until I found out they're being used to catch illegals. I hope they'll have them at every intersection.

>>28998450
Catch the illegals that (((they))) want here in the first place? Kek. Also ive read your exact words verbatim so many times already. Low effort bait, try to be more convincing

>>28998449
You think that's some kind of expiration date on a crime, like if they don't call 911 within a few seconds of something happening then you just get to go free?
Or, and this is crazy, they have more than just one device.

>>28996486
Ok post your car and your guns

>>28998495
>6 hours later
>hey a white male average height average build broke my phone
>no I didn't get his name
>no I didn't get his plate
Cops will go uh huh yeah alright and do nothing

>>28998517
Yeah if only they had been using some sort of video recording device at the time it happened. Then it would make it much easier to identify the assailant

>>28998527
A broken in half video recording device? The police will not open an investigation and try to recover that data over some pencil neck being shoved around a bit by a john doe

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>>28998538
There's a whole new world of technology waiting for you to discover bro

>>28998517
>white male
Uhhhh, are you sure about that? I think they were black or brown, statistically speaking.

>>28998555
No phone made after like 2014 uses SD cards for storage dude. Besides I'd likely take the fags phone with me and throw it out the window later

>>28998572
Do you think phones are the only things in the world that can record video? Also cloud storage exists. Someone going out and recording video in public is not going to use their one and only personal cellphone to do it. Most of these guys have a camera on a tripod and a body cam at minimum

>>28998587
Even if they did get that, you think they'd put an APB out on me over battery (with no injuries) and a broken cell phone? Dude you're larping worse than I am.

>>28998594
Who said anything about an "APB"?

>>28984659
just don't break the law.
And yes, that includes driving laws.

>>28985815
>I used to not like being raped, but now that I know shitskins are being raped too, I don't mind it anymore
Riveting.

>>28998450
>they're being used to catch illegals.
bull shit. i guarantee this has never happened one time.

>>28997177
The idea is that they want a network of them (with AI btw) so they can tell that there was no way you could've made it from camera A to camera B without going 27 in a 25 for 3 seconds and send you a ticket which the city only gets 10% of anyway because leftoids are retarded and desperate for cash

>>29000150
famous left wing corporation palantir

>>28983935
Well then I just need to make a few TikToks inciting my local niggers to destroy the cameras.

>>28983935
This, sitting in a prison and never rioting is based and trad behavior. doubly so if the make it where you can't buy anything based on where you've been

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>>28983930
Flock Cameras and AIPR (AI plate readers) don't have to look like those, but those are the easiest to set up. So that's what they use the most.

You can take almost any camera and convert it to an AIPR Flock Camera, but Flock sells these cameras as its product, so it tries to onboard the pole types or these types whenever possible. These types that mount on utility poles are harder to install but are less obvious.

>>29000814
Thiel is a massive Democrat onahole

>>29000823
>The only reason you would have to hate mass surveillance
Stopped reading there, you're a mentally ill retard.

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>>28997177
> If you're in public you have no expectation of privacy.
BZZZT-
WRONG.
https://usconstitution.net/reasonable-expectation-of-privacy-and-the-katz-test/

>Largely because of one Supreme Court decision in 1967: Katz v. United States. Katz did not invent the Fourth Amendment. It reframed it. Instead of treating the Amendment as only a rule about physical places, the Court made clear it also reaches government intrusion into people’s private lives, even without a physical break-in.
The only reason these cameras haven't been torn down under this ruling is because Americans are thoroughly uneducated on their own rights, on purpose, thinking Corporations and the Government are a god who can violate them however they want. Midwit shitheads like you simply allow it because you're too retarded to picture the idea that people already had the bright idea to rape you like they're doing now, and brighter men said 'no'.

>The Court’s most famous line comes from Justice Potter Stewart: “the Fourth Amendment protects people, not places.”

>That sentence is quoted so often it can start to sound like a slogan. But it is doing real work. It means Fourth Amendment protection is not limited to locations explicitly named in the text, like “houses.” It can apply anywhere a person has a privacy interest the Constitution recognizes.

>Katz does not require a physical intrusion. Surveillance can be a search even when the government never sets foot on private property.

This also means all of the cameras and AI databases that are tracking how you spend and where? Those are illegal, too. The only reason it's not enforced is because federal judges are on the take. It's no coincidence that all of this sprung up in two years with no federal ruling, just tons of state judges making conflicting rulings. With Flock being illegal in some states but not others.

>>29000864
>Thiel is a massive Democrat onahole
not the guy you quoted, but you're an absolute retard. this is "bix nood" levels of debasement, totally devoid of any intelligence, meaning, or consistency.

>>29000870
ok so do something about it retard

>>29000906
yeah just do something about it. it's impossible to do anything about it. and even if it weren't impossible, why would i want to do anything about it? huh, you expect me to go to jail? and miss niggerball on sunday???? PLUS i got work. i don't want to do anything about it. no one does. it's impossible to get away with it, anyways. they're omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent. it's impossible to get away with anything. you're probably a glownigger. you're entrapping me, you're trying to entrap me. it's impossible to do anything about it. and niggerball tomorrow, remember that? i dont want to miss it.

>>29000908
anon the nfl season doesn't start for months

>>29000908
>its impossible to do anything about it
old man yells at cloud

>>29000870
I've been telling every druggie I know that these cameras are filled with valuable metals an parts. It's partly true but the cameras in my area keep getting cut down by the diversity in the area. Most of them seem to last a single day before being cut down and dragged off, gutted and left in an alley.

>>28983886
If you have good 20-54voltage cordless angle grinder. A Milwaukee SCS 41/125 Pro+ (125x1.5X22.23mm disc) or SCS 41/230 Pro+ (230x1.9X22,23 mm disc) is good cutting disc for cutting down most of camera poles.

Soon the surveillance technology will have the ability to track people by their bluetooth devices(examples your phone, smart watch, wireless headphones). Also RFID tags(examples keycards, asset tags, pet microchips, Wifi sources( example laptop computer) they carry/transport. Thats why luddites will be future winners on protecting their privacy.

I'd enjoy arresting every /o/ nigger I see damaging these cameras.

FAFO

>>29002392
Awww piggy's gettin mad

I reckon an incredibly high power focused laser pointer would be much better for destroying these cameras much more inconspicuously at a distance and without putting yourself at much risk.

>>29002450
you would have to access the feed from the camera to know if it actually works or not, it also requires you to be within line of sight and relatively close to actually aim at the sensor

>>29002450
Doesn't even have to be that powerful, cars' LIDAR is capable of frying security and smartphone camera sensors if it hits it just right.

>>29002392
No ragerts

>>29002801
The camera has to be incredibly close to the lidar for that to happen. Within just a few feet. And I can't imagine that they don't just put a filter on the lens considering the thing they're designed to film is... cars.

>>29002392
you deserve every loud dysgenic mudmix that you are forced to experiance in your shitty occupation retard.

>>29002875
I think they can't filter visible light or near-IR since the camera is meant to record these wavelengths. See the IR strobe in >>28985815

>>29003606
This. Its the jews

>>29003609
This is the worst one in a while.
What is that even supposed to mean, anon?

>>29003612
You don't have any idea what that could mean?

>>29003613
You're gonna have to help me out I guess because it reads as a retarded non-sequitur

>>28985815
cool retard republican thinktank hyperbole but they don't fucking give a shit what niggers do retard.

>>28983886
Private equity in America is a cancer.

These won't be used to catch niggers mugging the elderly or shooting each other, they'll be used to fine you for doing a rolling stop at 2am.

>>28983935
jewish property is not realy property

>>28983886
>>28984043
Nigger

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>>29000906
i will

>>29007767
Cool it with the antisemitism

>>29007813
Don't look at the Team bios of PE firms

>>28985281
Indeed, I never saw a flock or ring camera in any small midwest towns.

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>>29008168
>I never saw a flock or ring camera in any small midwest towns
must not be looking very hard

>>28983935
Typically id agree with you but not in this case.

>>29008256
my map only shows 3 in the surrounding areas (70 mile radius)
on my shitty flyover country area

>>28984013
Privacy is antisemitic

>>29008168
i live in a small midwest town and we have like 20. go to deflock.org for a map.

>>29009812
it is technically possible these haven't been registered since the map still relies on wardriving to gather data. But there are real deadspots too.

>>28994251
>the people who make the laws decide they’re above the laws
shocking revelation

jews gonna jew

>>28984017
No, YOU have no expectation of privacy. We are not the same.

>>28983935
spying, snooping and surveiling OS white and kike behavior

>>29010275
it's whites and kikes
FTFY

>>29010275
Land of ghee FEE. Home of the Slave

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>>28983935
america was founded by niggers then

>>28983935
Good goy.

>>28983886
yes, blame the fall-guy. never question who funded or approved their installation, and who collects and uses the data. kill the manufacturer, that will surely make them go away.

>>28985815
Yea, thats how they get you to give up all your rights they distract you with trannies and whatever ragebait of the week
>>Poc, immigrants, abortion women
You’re a retard, all these people are the least likely to own their own cars and the most likely to hitch a ride with friends/bfs/sugar daddy

Why not just pop them with a suppressed 10/22? Or even unsuppressed

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>>29015016
Wait til you find out about city gunshot detectors!

>>29015018
Brownoids launch fireworks around my city and NOTHING HAPPENS so blow me

You deserve the world you live in

>>29015020
they can tell the difference between fireworks and gunshots, each has a unique signature.

>>29012283
would never happen today with the fully domesticated population

>>29015022
This. We deserve what we tolerate.

>>28985043
This x1000. You cops expect me to believe you will actually do anything against real crimes and not just generate revenue by pulling over middle class white folks? Lol. LMAO even!

>>28998516
Do you really think you're the only person with cars and guns? This is your go to response on basically any subject when someone calls you out as an egomaniac retard...

straight stuntin on these niggas they don't even know

I'm almost pro-Flock cams at this point. Its always the dumbest of freaks who sperg out at whatever the current hot topic is because they heard about it from other people and none of them can give you anything more than the generic baseline reason as to why they're crying about it and its always some bullshit.

The gayest part about them is that they're going to be used as speeding cameras on steroids where if you go from camera A to camera B, C, D, etc (since it'd be a network) too quickly you'd get a ticket. These retards are worried about privacy when they've carried a smart phone in their pocket for the last two decades (which they're carrying when they go up to wreck these cameras lol)

>>29016254
I bet you want a team of armed men watching as you take a shit, just because most people don’t.

Reminder: you had to sign a contract agreeing to the terms and conditions of your spyware phones. No such contract was signed for these stupid cameras.

>>28993341
Eventually you will be debanked, denied public transport or CBDCs for saying the wrong thing

>>29016256
case and point lmao. This is like when leftoids complain about climate change and pollution when India exists. Between your car, your phone and Ring doorbell cameras you're already being tracked six ways from Sunday retard, the only people this hurts is the average citizen with legit plates on their car going 36 in a 25 on a random stretch of road with no cameras and getting a ticket in the mail. THAT is the reason its bad. It'll do fuckall for the Mexicans driving with printer paper MS Word temp tags which the state would get more money from but they're poor and brown so it'd make people feel bad so they don't

>>29016294
>We already have some surveillance so more is totally a-okay!
No, it isn’t.

>>29016294
See >>29016262

>No, that would be a violation of my rights as an American, moreover it makes me uncomfortable.
>[gov’t] Brown people… exist!
>Strip away my rights and surveil me harder! Brown people, jeez, why didn’t you say it before!
It is that easy to strip away American liberties. Sad.

>>29016357
These flock cameras are more hated than Islamig Gommunism.

>>29016362
Good, I hope we can work together as a society to solve the issue. Wouldn’t that be something?

>>29016364
They popped up everywhere to alienate everyone at the height of a retarded tech bubble for the benefit of just a handful. Useless and invasive and doing nothing for me or anyone I know. There are already unified movements to get rid of them.

>>28983886
It's actually amazing to me how much people hate those flock cameras. Makes me proud

>>29016254
>they're going to be used as speeding cameras on steroids where if you go from camera A to camera B, C, D, etc (since it'd be a network) too quickly you'd get a ticket
yes yeah and you're okay with this? are you retar?

>>28993563
>but it's been repeated numerous times that you don't get privacy in public.
You try publishing a website that tracks every federal judge when they're out of the house and see how quickly the assumption of privacy turns out to not just mean "when I'm in my house"

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>>28993563
>you don't get privacy in public
You have the right to not be stalked or have your actions logged by someone just because they have an array of fancy cameras out in public.
Cops used to need a warrant to bug your car with GPS, now they use this on everyone and "it's fine" because they use a middleman? I don't think so.

>>29016802
Stalking implies that it's targeted. If I sit on my porch and take pictures of every person walking by and every car driving by, that's completely fine and legal. If multiple people all did, that's still perfectly fine and legal. If we get together and share our pictures, there's still nothing wrong that's been done. It's only stalking if me and all my friends pick a specific person or group of people and deliberately only track them.

>>29016808
But do you, a human being, want that?
The technology can be scaled up and such a precedent would allow for new future technologies to be used in such a way.
We constantly have regime change, what’s to stop a future one from abusing this or such future technology? They could declare nearly anything illegal. Do you want a curfew at 7pm-5am and only night workers with special, registered tags and IDs are allowed to leave their property? Facial scanning before you go into any public building? I’m serious, things will not end with this current situation.

>>29016811
Sure I don't give a shit. I'm a law abiding citizen so I don't fear the police state. I don't think you're capable of asking yourself how any of this actually affects you. You're already dead set against the idea. I'm not going places that I fear being tracked going to. I'm not doing things that I fear being caught doing. Until the level of surveillance reaches the point that it actually genuinely affects my life, like a little personal drone that follows me around making noise and being in the way, then I don't care. We already know that our phones are listening to us and tracking is even when we think they're off. Guess what. I still have my phone within 10 feet of me all the time anyway.

>>29016822
>I'm a law abiding citizen so I don't fear the police state.
What if someone who doesn't like you changes the laws?

>>29016823
I doubt that will happen. I'm a regular average milquetoast guy. I represent and am represented by the vast majority of Americans. So it's unlikely that anyone who was elected into a position of power to make such decisions would make one that opposed me as that would also oppose all of their constituents as well. And if they were a tyrannical conqueror then we would have much bigger problems

>>29016828
Then what are you doing on 4chan’s board that, traditionally, was about talking about doing crimes with cars?
Curious.

>>29016828
Sorry, the potential for abuse is just too high. Flock's CEO has been caught accessing camera feeds in a youth gymnastics gym. It's fucked and we shouldn't be letting these shitters set up their surveillance infrastructure unopposed.

>>29016836
If he did something illegal then he should be charged and punished for it. That doesn't make the thing he made bad. If the guy who invented the car used his car to run someone over you wouldn't be out here saying there shouldn't be any cars. Bad people will do bad things. And it's better for society if we have ways of catching the bad people doing the bad things so that we can put them away.

>>28984768
Shalom Rabbi

>>29016832
>Then what are you doing on 4chan’s board that, traditionally, was about talking about doing crimes with cars?

Anon of old, share with us your wisdom. What was old /o/ like? Did they really? Was it street racing kind of crimes?

>>29016851
It's not illegal bro it's just a camera looking ain't a crime

>>29016859
Been here 18 years. Yeah. It used to almost entirely be about cheap compacts or muscle cars. Taking cats off, doing stunts, lots of bolt on mods, shit talk, top speed runs, racing. You know, 00s tuner culture stuff. Lots of off-topic, very little politics. Stuff like sharing videos of Australian putting dose pipes and duck calls on their commodores and laughing about it.