Toyota's 2.5 liter engine is GARBAGE in both naturally and artificially aspirated variants, rough, not great on fuel, not especially powerful but it looks like a wholly new 2 liter engine - first mentioned I wanna say about a year ago by Car Magazine as part of the new GR Yaris racing program, will come to non-race-cars, but the question is if the whole lineup will get it (as it should) and if it will be hybridized (as it should for some apps). Hopefully they can offer a nice spread from 250-350hp for various things. https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a71578920/toyota-mr2-m-concept-prototype-drive/If only they fix the interiors (they won't, they wouldn't make as much money by not fleecing their customers with the worst plastics made).
>>28987772it will probably end up in the new MR2 and Celica (if it indeed exists) and the Corolla and Yaris will be stuck with the 3cyl
>>28987810It indeed exists. The person in the article drove a working protoype, Toyota is, on some level, aware of how shitty and unloved the 2.5 is (it gets criticized in almost every review, surely they would notice at some point). and at least 2 different magazines have mentioned this new 2 liter engine.
>>28987810>and the Corolla and Yaris will be stuck with the 3cylIs that actually a bad thing? It seems perfectly adequate for the cars they are, especially the Yaris.
>>28987888while it is indeed perfectly adequate and 100hp per cylinder is indeed a very admirable feat the engine seems to have largely hit its ceiling in capabilityI'd like to see if they could actually put out a GR Corolla that could actually go toe to toe with the Golf R if its highest trim is nearly going for Golf R prices and it may need an extra cylinder for that
>>28987888It's a bad thing if you care about longevity. high output 3 cylinder will not last. these cars will all end up on facebook market place with blown engines in 10 years.
>>28987772We have a disagreement. The Toyota 2.5liter naturally aspirated version is pretty decent on performance, fuel economy. The bigger problem is that Toyota mainly puts the 2.5liter into heavier weight cars than lower weight cars. Then second problem is the 8-speed automatic transmission that is too much factory programmed to favor fuel economy over performance so it up shifts gears too early, not allowing the engine to really rev up to its maximum power band properly.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOHxMMwQMQwThe same transmission also ruined the performance from the 2GR-FKS 3.5liter V6 engine, making it accelerate slower than the previous 2GR-FE V6.
>Toyota is GARBAGEftfy
>>28988175jeet cope
>>28987916don't they have a hybrid version that's just like ~100hp total?
>>2898817896 in just the 1.8L 4cyl138hp combined between the gas and electric motors
>>28987888yes, it's a tiny engine and the boost is really high so it probably won't last more than 150k milesthe 1.6 is also not very smooththey badly need a smoother engine for multi-purpose aims >The Toyota 2.5liter naturally aspirated version is pretty decent on performanceit's not that great, and the bigger issue is how rough it is, even just as a passenger you can hear how noisy and unrefined it is>fuel economyit gets like 17 mpg in the land cruiser, it's not good
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Garbage performance wise but isn't the yaris engine pretty damn durable? That's all I care about.
>>28988637my main complaint is how crude and rough the engine is, so the 1.6 engine doesn't fix thattoyota sells cushy granny-mobilesit's a pox on them to sell Lexuses with a rough 4banger engine
>>28988008That purely depends if Americans fell for ,,free oil service'' and brought their car into the dealer's hands. Which in that case, your G16E and the clutch were already marked for death.
>>28988637the gr yaris i3 has been on market for like 5 years, we dont really know
>>28988177I’m pretty sure jeets love Toyoda
>>28987772Just put the turbo triple in the 86 chassis and it'll be an instant hit
1.6-2.0 4 cyl N/A or turbo would have done the job. Why complicate themselfs?
>>28988687Emissions.
>Some mules have widened, engine-bearing hips with swollen quarter-panels to feed radiators for additional cooling.
>WELL COMPETITOR CAR HAS MORE POWER SO EVERY CAR IN THAT SEGMENT NEEDS MORE POWER!!!!sick of this shit bring back the 150hp NA hot hatches
