You need more?
>>28993433can i get a new intake manifold, boss
I wish I had one. They're very expensive in the 3rd world shithole I'm from.
>>28993433When I was 12 I loved my grandma's Grand Marquis so much I asked her if I could buy it from her. I don't need more.
>>28993433>You want moreOf course, wouldn't have it any other way
>>28993433I can't describe just how badly I want one but can't get one in my country. We almost had the Crown Vic in the late 90s but they went for another domestic designed Ford instead.
>>28994624ye m8yneed one
I can get a CVPI in my country for around 7000-10000€. Although with gas at over 2€ per liter driving one gets very expensive very fast.
>>28994624We can though, I have a friend who imported one, and he had two friends who also imported ones, and I know of several more kicking about.25 year rule, so you can get a 98 to 01 model.
>>28993433I've owned about 15 Panthers over my lifetime. They're great cars, ever generation is good. However, I'm looking for a good donor car to swap an OM606 or VW diesel into..I have a theory that these cars can be just as fun with a fuel efficient turbo diesel.
>>28993433You can suck my Crown Dic
>>28994693Plus importing a piece of shit overrated american pigmobile would be the stupidest thing you could do out of all that
>>28994841>just as funFun? A goddamn crown vic is what you think is fun? At least you have the sense to consider ditching the crude piece of shit ford motor probably got tired of helicoils
>>28993433I need a manual transmission and also not a dogshit modular engine
>>28993433Good ones are drying up fast. I looked at a 99 civilian one awhile ago, two owner 85k on it. dealership wanted five grand and it was rusty as hell underneath, valve cover gasket (I think) leaking, rear struts were blown, rear end leaking, and probably the rear main seal too but i don't know if that was from the existing oil leak. Too bad, the body and interior were in pretty good shape
>>28994846The 5.4 3 valves in the trucks were more likely to blow their sparkplugs. Never had that issue with any of the 4.6 2 valves. I've even put over 300k on one of them. They're fun to me because you can break traction and whip them around. I've gotten away doing shit in crown vics with wide wheels on that most people still don't believe>Gripped a 35mph off ramp at 110
>>28993435Just put a windsor in it
>>28994624meanwhile I could get any Panther body I wanted but always wanted a FG Falcon that I couldn't getthe grass is always greener, I guess
>>28993433as a matter of fact yeah, I do need more
>>28994844>overratedexplain
>>28995130People only glaze this shit because they're cop cars and taxis that litter american roads. It's a basic american piece of archaic junk that was gradually forced to become reliable (by ford standards) due to being overproduced and dumped in various agency fleets. It does not a thing better than other cars in it's class, except being oversupported
>>28995036>Just put a Massey Ferguson Tractor engine in itthe fucking state
>>28995140they're better than your shitty faves by far
>>28995140none of that explains why its overrated though, all youve done is testify they're cheap, plentiful and reliable
>>28993433Absolutely, I don't have any to begin with.
>>28995140>they're cop cars and taxis that litter american roadsthey haven't been on the roads like that in almost 20 years, anon.>It's a basic american piece of archaic junkit's the LAST OF THE SOLID-FRAME V8 INTERCEPTORS you HEATHEN.>gradually forced to become reliable it was MORE reliable in the past, stuff like the shitty plastic intakes or blow-your-own PCMs came later.>overproduced and dumped in various agency fleets.okay you don't know how production works, got it> It does not a thing better than other cars in it's class,it's simple, reliable, and sensible, and the only competitor in its class was the b-body caprice, which was better on paper but had 1990s GM build quality control in practice (plus corporate that was DYING to kill off anything RWD, because GM)>except being oversupportedeven this is wrong, it's undersupported as hell. OEM parts for most anything other than spark plugs and window motors don't fucking exist anymore. even the infamous intake manifold no longer exists as new old stock, ford spun up production again but it isn't the same model, it's basically the Dorman one with FOMOCO stamped on the side, totally different runners and you're looking at a 15hp loss in a car that's already underpowered to start with. and it's a mustang part too. how the FUCK DOES FORD STOP MAKING A V8 MUSTANG PART, AND HOW ARE MORE PEOPLE NOT IRATE OVER THIS
>>28995451>they haven't been on the roads like that in almost 20 years,More like 10 years. They were still real common in 2016.
>>28995425being overproduced isnt a merit>>28995451>muh ford v8 is unsupportedholy shit you bitch cry harder in no world is a ford v8 "unsupported" fuck you
>>28994696>2001 was 25 years agoI can't believe we're at that point. How much total including import and where did they get them from? I have no idea who to trust with vehicle importing, a lot of sites selling cars and doing the import shit seem like total scams.
>>28995741If you do it yourself you should get change from $20k.Expect about $5k for the car, $10k for shipping/transport/customs/taxes/bullshit/etcThey just find them on ebay, marketplace, etc.Finding a decent one over 25 years old is the hard part, plenty of good 2010-ish models floating around, but that's no good for us.There's a film car guy in NSW who brings over a few every now and then and sells them for like $25k a piece, so he's obviously making several grand a pop, but the trade off is you don't have to deal with any of the bullshit, just show up with a trailer and there you go. Still need to compliance and register, but that's pretty straight forward. Although the quality of his cars could be questioned. I think he's just grabbing whatever clean-ish looking cars he can find, so you could still end up needing to fork out for major mechanical work.
>>28995568>being overproduced isnt a meritYes it is. Its makes parts availability easier and cheaper and last for longer after the car leave's production.
>>28995797>$20k.Even in Oz dollarydoos, that's fucked yo.
>>28995797Able to recommend any specific places that do it all? From buying all the way to getting it to my door or at least to a depot in a major city? I can see plenty for sale at least but I'd like to just pick a place and have them do the whole thing since I know the process is hell for just one guy.>Finding a decent one over 25 years old is the hard part, plenty of good 2010-ish models floating around, but that's no good for us.I'm cool with a shittier one desu, I see a lot of old Polce Interceptor models in varying condition for about $3k AUD and I wouldn't mind something that's just a little roughed up. I'd probably teardown the whole backseat and super clean that area though, one thing I know about old cop cars is people piss and vomit in them all the time.>There's a film car guy in NSW who brings over a few every now and then and sells them for like $25k a pieceMy total budget including car would probably be more like 10k. I'd even import one of the early 90s models honestly since I like those too. I don't plan on it being a show car or anything like that, I'd be pretty much daily driving this thing to work.
>>28993433These don't really exist anymore here and even if they were more plentiful I still really hate sedans. A Tahoe or Suburban is just as if not more comfy and they're 500x more practical.
>>28995804I don't have any experience with importers, so can't really recommend any.Yeah you can get a cheap shitty one, but consider you're spending more on the import costs than the car, so might as well get a good one.Your best bet is to bookmark searches on local ebay/marketplace/gumtree etc, and check every couple of days for cheap-ish ones to show up already in the country. I've been doing this for probably a decade at this point. But with the going price being $20k+ plus, you're not really going to find a cheap one anymore. There were a couple of older (aero body) ones that were floating around under $10k, but they were real fucking heaps.10+ years ago I could have bought a pair of them, ex-film use for like $5k, one was decent (and a P71) and one was a parts car. The parts get ended up getting wrecked in the movie "2:22" years later, but it's still kicking around as a cut up wreck for parts.For $10k your best bet to get into American(ish) cop cars would be to get a normal VE Caprice, and do a US undercover style build. So all white, black rims, Chev badges, maybe a nudge bar and a spotlight if your budget allows.
>>28995822>For $10k your best bet to get into American(ish) cop cars would be to get a normal VE Caprice, and do a US undercover style build. So all white, black rims, Chev badges, maybe a nudge bar and a spotlight if your budget allows.I'd been considering that for a while, but seeing this thread and poking around a little had me find some really cheap ex-cop cars for only a few grand, so I'd really like to get one of those instead. I'd always wanted a Crown Vic and I got to ride in a few Crow Vic taxis when I visited NYC, and some of those were in rough shape and I still didn't care.
>>28993433Crown vics are cool especially the v8 ones, but gas is expensive here and they were mostly fleet vehicles so they are all automatics. I heard some guys swap 5 speed tremec trannies into them, so they can be amazing. >t. europoor
>>28995827I guess just search around for importers, maybe join some car club facebooks/forums and see who people there used to find a reputable/cheap-ish one.But keep in mind customs can fuck you over at any moment and you could be out extra thousands for a bunch of bullshit if they decide it needs to be fumigated, or they find a twig in the engine bay, or think there could be asbestos in it, etc.
>>28995834>Crown vics are cool especially the v8 onesThey're all V8s chief.
>>28993433yeah, its called a cadillac
>>28994844even more stupid than the front wheel drive slop that europeans think americans are so jealous of not having?
>>28995804I don't understand an Aussie wanting a Crown Vic when he could have a WM/WN Caprice that is better in every way.
>>28995879Ev&oe Cadillac couldn't stop shitting the bed from 1995-2005
>>28996227You got mogged by them in 1993-1996 tho>Impala ss VS Maurader was the first efi muscle sedan war>The Fleetwood was a SS in a suit
>>28996319the marauder didn't even come out until after all the B-bodies had stopped production
>>28996319True... thankfully they got spared from the Northwood shitshow.
>>28996327They may have released in 03' but they were fiercely intertwined with the B/D bodies. Back in the day man, shit was so cool.>>28996367Northwood? Oh the Northstar... yeah.. its LT1 or bust mane.. I have heard good things about those 4.9 devilles even if they're wrong wheel drive
>>28996214It'd be too plain here, the WN Caprice is everywhere but a Crown Vic is basically unseen (I only ever saw one and it was on a film set in Queensland).
>>28996485i always heard the best (only good?) northstar was the one in the Aurora that Oldsmobile had worked over since olds was known for giving stuff the magic touch when their engineers were allowed, but of course the aurora was also only wrong wheel drive
>>28996319based
>>28994844Dubs of truth
>>28994844crown vic? crown sickwould absolutely import a clapped/10
>>28993433>You need more?Less, actually. I'd rather have the mark viii since I don't have any use for the rear seats & doors.
>>28993433>those thick tyresGod I love these old barges
>>28993433it's caprice for me, especially older skirted ones.will never understand burgers having access to all those affordable sedans and I would even put teslas in that category as nice daily and then they drive idk 4cyl honda or golf or something european.
>>28996681They finally fixed the Northstar in 2005 with LS6 head bolts, so cars like the DeVille finally got a good engine by the end. Ours has done well with nothing but basic maintenance and new valve cover gaskets for over 20 years now.
>>28998234Fucking right. B body mogs whatever faggot cougar chassis Shit ford had. Better V8 better BoF no dumb ford faggotry
>>28995142Ok just put in a manifold off of a 91-95
>>28998381Way more of those turned into big rim purple nigmobiles or are 200% more expensive simply because of the bowtie
>>28995451It pisses me off how undersupported full size fords are. You basically cant get new body panels or floor pans for anything after fucking 1972
>>28999856Yeah because crown vics never ever ever ever ever ever get turned into donks (crown nigs)A FWB sold for 6 figures btw, lemme know when those ovals get anywhere near that
>>28993433I put those wheels on my volvo, they look good and they're cheap
>>28999865In my personal experience I see more ebonized chevys Idk what fwb is, besides that's my point, chevys are needlessly expensive
>>28999885Fleetwood broughamTheir values go up because demand is high. I see far more clapped out ex cop cars.
>>28999846Doesn't fit if you've got PI heads.
>>28994846you can still have fun in something other than a small sports car>>28993433I have an '85 and it's awesome
>>28993433How good is the previous Crown Vic model? The late 80s one
>>28993433Not really for a daily driver. They are smooth, comfy ride, not too tough to wrench on & not fuckhuge like some trucks/SUVs.
>>29000643One of these with a manual and a diesel would be nice for 30-40mpg cruising around in comfort, shit if I find a nice clean example I’ll drop one of my 10 spare TDIs into one
>>29000604I fuckin love my 1990, they got facelifted in 1988 (externally) and 1989 (internally) just before turning all fat in 1992 and the taillights look WAY better than the 80s ones but it keeps that beautful squariness... and I like my interior better, too, even found one of the police speedos for it.
>>29000856I like the upper positioning of the HVAC too, but the controls were SHIT due to the way they designed the levers, thankfully you can just swap in levers from one of the 80s control units and then it's all good
>>28999882That looks perfectvery nice
>>29000859also (cannot for the life of me find a proper photo of the engine bay on this thing) it's nice having the metal 302 intake considering all the issues the guys have with the newer ones nd their plastic intakesof course there's old ass interior plastics that I have to deal with, like all of the door lock and window switch panels disintegrating, but at least those are mostly cosmetic?
>>29000880good enough
>>29000856one more
>>29000892best pone
>>28999865You don't see CV's with a donk bubble toy line either
>>28995799>Yes it isSo you'd say that plastic waterbottles and fidget spinners have merit because they're overproduced as well?
>>29000880That intake is nice for longevity but it sucks since it covers up your valve covers and injectors and shit Got done doing the all the intake and valve cover gaskets on my 91 GM, along with replacing a few vacuum hoses. Went from about 18mpg to 20ish lol. Although functioning overdrive would help more. But i don't feel like dropping the tranny rite now
>>29001187BTW those niggers at ford were still using fukken cork valve cover, front and rear intake gaskets, in 199fucking1. the source of my massive vaccuum and oil leak
>>29001187my valve covers be pissing oil, and the bolts (that I could reach) were finger tight last time I checked :(I'll try replacing them one of these days...
should i fucking do it? cad$
>>29000856How much are they going for? Total budget for me would be about 4kUSD
i could use a good crashed 2004+ donor at a local salvage yard. i have a 1996 mustang gt 5spd and it has the early non PI 4.6 2v. According to the ford camp, putting the later PI heads intake and cams on an early motor will yield bolt on 40+hp and no drivability impact. add in some longtubes and an offroad x-pipe i figure itll be like a completly different car. probably add 60whp in total if dyno tuned for preemo fuel, likely coast about 2 grand if done resourcefully.
>>29001486If you're going through all the work of a PI swap you might as well try to track down some used trickflow heads.
>>29000984Everyone's hatin till it floods, then they understand
>>29000652I've seen manual swapped panthers but never a diesel one, if you have the means to TDI swap one do it (for research purposes of course).
>>28995801saw one on gumtree a few years ago, i think it was used for movies etc. because it was still in police livery. 2011 model iirc, guy wanted like 40k for it...
>>29001447Nta, I bought mine for $1500 usd, faded clearcoat, peeling vinyl top, rotten exhaust, and no overdrive I would say a car without any of those issues would be worth 4k
>>29001711I wouldn't mind it being a little shitty, I'd be daily driving this thing. How's the reliability?
>>29001716I mean, I have to replace parts as they fail. The worst thing was the AC system, and brake booster and master cylinder, all tough for me to find. I had to get a NOS compressor but the rest was from napa. Otherwise its just been little knick knack stuff, egr valve, throttle position sensor, idler pulley. Don't expect to have zero issues is all im saying
>>29001716Oh yeah I did also have to change the water pump but that only took me a couple hours to do
>>29001131Your analogy is trash.I said.>Overproduction is a merit>Its makes parts availability easier and cheaper and last for longerYou said.>So you'd say that plastic waterbottles and fidget spinners have merit because they're overproduced as well?Is "Parts Availability" something people value in plastic water bottles or fidget spinners? No, water bottles are disposable and fidget spinners are simply replaced when they break.Thus your analogy sucks ass.
>>29001447I bought mine for 1200 but it needed the oil pan gasket done to pass inspection and that's an engiine-out job, then new tires, the vinyl roof ripped off and painted, and so on... so yeah 4-5k sounds about right
>>28995066I don't know the full story, but I think you guys nearly got these to replace your police Crown Vics, but went with the Taurus instead.Heard it was a similar case like with the US Army adopting the M14 over the FAL, with the main reason being because it wasn't made in America.
>>29001424How many KM?
>>29002251175k. can prob talk him down to $12k
>>28999882Throw an lq4 and ar5 transmission in that Scandinavian work of art and you will move into top 10 coolest cars in that shithoke state . Nice car
>>28993433About 6 months ago a latina zoomer took my order in the drive-thru at Raising Cane's and told me I was driving her dream car. She said that she's currently saving up to buy a Lincoln Town Car of her own. I told her she should and that they're great cars. She was pretty cute and awkwardly stuck her head inside to compliment my cassette player. I told her that I hated the stereo (not true, it's alright) and she finished taking my order, seemingly embarrassed. Since then, I have probably masturbated at least 50 times to the thought of fucking her.
Crown vics are too over priced now. Was a good car to have 15 years ago. I don't know about today. If you can find own, sure. The cheapest one I can find locally is an old cop car and it's completely clapped and they want 3500 for it these things don't die, it's true. Great cars
>>29005078You're better off getting a Town Car at this point. They're almost always better cared for and they're better cars anyway. Grand Marquis can be a good bargain too, they also tend to be better cared for and can be had cheaper than a Town Car; but they have less power and less features than the Lincoln.
>>29005064You should have offered her to take it for a spin.
>>29005064>her dream carshe's a keeper
>>29005064This >>29005256. At least it might have gone like this>This is your dream car huh? Want to go for a drive with me later today?>Oh, I can't I have a boyfriend>Does your boyfriend own a Town Car? Just a drive around the city. I can pick you up when your shift ends>proceed to pick her up and woo her>she fucks you in the backseat
>>29005269>This is your dream car huh? Want to go for a drive with me later today?Nah my creepy man, key if offering HER to drive.This is basically how I met my current gf, she drove my landcruiser through some tall grass, she was so happy and excited, still remember the smile and it was years ago.
>>29000859Can you go into more detail about the hvac levers, mine are fucked up and difficult to move
>>29005297Ford did this retarded thing in the 1990/1991 interior where you're not actually operating the HVAC lever like in the older cars, you're moving a sliding piece of plastic that is attached to the end of the actual lever. Problem is, this design fucking sucks, and I can't imagine it was much better 30 years ago.If it helps, this was what I had in my HVAC before I got my hands on a set of levers from an 80s vic...
>>29006177ackshually they were from an 80s Grand Marquis :)
>>29005253I miss the town car. They were kinda dog shit in the day, but nothing said class like being picked up in a town car. The seats were like a couch. But overall pretty boring. Though compared to today, I am nostalgic for a town car
>>29006227I like cruising around in mine. Its comfy and quiet and the V8 and RWD is enough to keep it from being boring if you put your foot down.
>>28993433Sadly, I'm from Argentina so I can't dream with a Crown Victoria or any of the other two, but it's such a cool car, so I'm drawing one for funs. Still WIP, etc.
>>29007868>H A T Ewhy so angy
>>28993433>You need more?Nope
My dad had this when I was a kid. and he would listen to this songhttps://youtu.be/3T3MgIRUwj0
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>>29001799Your dumb graphic just means you're an argumentative internet faggot. In reality you just get shoved in a garbage can and high fived over.
>>29012014Dude that's the sticky picture from /pol/. Don't even waste time replying to that guy.
>>29011556Mercs and Lincolns are good by CVPIs are notoriously beat to shit and most of the good surviving examples have been driven into ditches by shitheads.
>>29005064Not that uncommon in LA. There are still a lot of Mexicans driving panther platforms in good condition. B-Body GM equivalents too. I think it's because a lot of migrated here when those were cars that middle class families bought and now a lot of Latinos from that migrant wave are second or third generation and have disposable income so they have a fascination with them and baby them or restore them once they finally have made it. Body on frame American V8s have achieved some sort of folklore status with Mexicans. They write songs about them and everything. My home town is Hispanic plurality suburb of Los Angeles and our city still has about a dozen 94-96 Caprices being actively used as city employee cars. They're not even in bad condition. Paint and trim even still look good. I looked into one parked at the library a few years and it had 504,000 miles on the odometer and I still see it driving around. They also still run ex patrol Crown Victorias in use as secondary code enforcement vehicles but those are newer from like 08-11 I think. They look like they were FCVPIs restomodded back to civilian cars. I work with some chuddy Mexican-Americans and they're bigly into Town Cars and Roadmasters specifically in addition to Mustangs, Corvettes, Firebirds, Silverados & Esuper Duties etc. Hopefully they overpower the fuckboy retard types who cut lanes in shitbox Inifnitis and Hondas. It all depends on which side the pro VW/BMW beaners side with.
>>29012166>Mercs and Lincolns are good by CVPIs are notoriously beat to shitYeah, true. When I was looking to buy my first panther like five years ago I checked out at least 10 different Crown Vics and all of them had been treated like shit by their previous owner. I ended up deciding on a Lincoln Town Car and I'm very happy with it.
>>29014338>Body on frame American V8s have achieved some sort of folklore status with Mexicans. They write songs about them and everything.Maybe they’re not so different after all…
>>29014545>Maybe we aren't so different afterallThats always been the case anon, afterall we are all human.
my stupid idiot panther in her favorite position once again
>>29002059At least GM were willing to bring the Caprice over, but of course they fucked it with the DoD bullshit.
>>29016287wat happened this time...
>>29016354she absolutely refuses to be a part of my trip to new jersey next week so she decided to kill the 10 month old fuel pump somehowI hoped it would be relays or something, but there's 12v at both sides of the fuel pump cutoff in the trunk, and that's the last place the power gets to before the pump itself
>>28994844Your subhuman hands are unworthy of touching American goods.
>>28995140>It does not a thing better than other cars in it's class, except being oversupportedThat is literally the one thing that makes a car last 30-40 years on the road. If you want a forever car, that is the number one metric you want.I own the 4-cylinder variant of that oversupported Ford Modular V8, which is the Duratec/MZR. That engine is so ubiquitous that junkyards will still somehow have them well into the 2040s and parts will be made for them long after the fleet mpg exceeds 34 mpg.
>>28994624>there's a timeline where RHD Vics exist but the AU Falcon does notIt's honestly a hard decision, I like both.
>>29001799>>29012014>>29012039Yeah, see that's not justifying your analogy which is still trash. That's just an ad hominem.On a side note calling me an argumentative internet faggot is fucking hysterical since you're on 4chan which is the ancestral homeland of the argumentative internet faggot.
>>29016380eventually you'll ship of theseus it into becoming a deadset reliable daily cuz that's pretty much what i'm doing with mine>>29016580i still like the crown vic over the au because of the styling. au just looks too weird for me
>>29016602hell yeah brotherit already has, by far, the best headlights and sound system out of my whole fleet, and that includes the 2019 and its stupid projector LED thingiesshe's got zero rust, so why shouldn't I keep fixing?
Watched a review video of a Marauder a bit ago and decided that after having driven a car with a ZF8 I just can't go back to any 4 speed automatic. Especially if it has something like a 32 valve in front of it.
>>28993433An Excursion is better in every way.
>>29016669yeah sure if you wanna donate half your monthly salary to the local gas station
>>28993433I love seeing panthers on the road
>>29016669Unless you want to park it or go around a corner.
