Was it the baggers or that they discontinued of air cooled engines
>>28994710No fxr. No dyna. Fuck em.
>>28994710Two jews name Harley and Davidson
>>28994811Rubbermounting the swingarm is a dumbass idea that japs stopped doing in the 80s. The dyna is a cool name but the street bob is straight up lighter and stiffer and better handling. Go buy used if you care that much.Or buy a schporty
>>28994710>King of the baggers>"Harley and Indian only"They're scared if Honda and BMW was allowed to play they would get their shit handed to them
>>28994823Gay looking e bike
>>28994710corporate mismanagement insisting on marketing to boomers and only boomers, then trying to get the young in a panic without doing ANY research and making a bunch of gay e-bikes, then spending wads of cash to hostile takeover and dismantle e-moto companies they viewed as threats to their burgeoning e-bike division that had 0 fucking sales and never will
Just have full water cooling jfc.
>>28994710Build an image around "All-American Cool">send bike production out of country>known DEI/Retard company>get rid of the retard running the company>replace with the guy who used to run Pizza Hutsmooth business moves are what killed HD
>>28994893dont forget>build "All-American Cool" image around brutal gangsters>wonder why suburban white people buy Hondas instead
>>28994710In many ways their product range was just bad but at the same time nobody wants Harley when they make not-oversized crusier. They had a chance to get their foot into sportsbikes with buel but decided to drop it, for instance.The dumb part is that they never had to be like this. Resurrected Triumph can have a heritage line and perfectly reasonable offerings in other segments(perfectly good advs, really nice nakeds especially speed triples recently even some offroad machines) while Harley is like, yeah we make big crusiers. If people are currently into them they'll buy them, if they're not, Harley has nothing to offer to them. Lots of people buy something like a honda rebel 500 harley pretends like that money stinks. People buy advs harley only recently jumped on the wagon, before that the adv money stank I guess.
>>28994710Its an expensive toy in an era where middle class disposable income is collapsing. The American mass market consumerism that enabled them is dying and thats 66% of Harley's market. Normal people just don't have the money to spend on things other than essentials and maybe cheap, throwaway hobbies. The generational wealth builder of home ownership is also fundamentally broken. It's the same reason the median car buyer is 53. Half of new cars are bought by people over 55 years old while the 18-35 demographic only accounts for 10%. Same story for riders. In thenUS, there are almost twice as many riders over 60 years old than there are 29 and below. the formative 18-24 demographic only makes up ~6% of riders now. The majority of riders are over 50 years old and the average buyer is 47. In 1990, the average rider was 32. Its all made worse by bikes being pointless vanity purchases with no practicality to justify them. Unless you live in California, that is. But Harley would rather sell of their finance arm and ram the $300 million into stock buybacks instead of doing some long term growth by lobbying major regional states to allow lane splitting. Getting lane splitting in cities would open a massive new market, but as a publically traded company, Harley isn't able to do anything but loot corporate equity and transfer it to day traders who are shorting the company anyways.>inb4 muh culture wars/dei/trannys/electricsNobody actually cares about whatever minority demographic you're currently obsessed with. It's always been about money.
>>28994960Look at the bright side, the US is collapsing so fast bikes will soon go from vanity toys to essential last resort transport for some of those hardest hit by this clown economy
>>28994710HELL YEAH BROTHER
>>28994978>the US is collapsingThat's overly dramatic and not even close to what's happening. Unless something dramatic happens, the US will just slowly slide down in a slow hollowing out. More post-war Britain or Francoist Spain than the USSR in the 90s. Just a gradual decline in living standards and relevance. The US has an exceptionally weak foundation heading into what is going to be a politically, ecomically, and ecologically unstable century.
>>28994978The US is great if you're in the top 5%Stonks and real estate is way up. Tons of disposable income
>>28995003Idk. Im pretty broke and still enjoy the us
6 figure Harley
>killedLooks pretty alive to me, dumbass.Mouth off again.
>>28995101>captions on captions on flashing single-word captionsAnyone who watches and/or uploads this shit deserves cancer.
>>28995101The numbers don't lie. Not as many are into motorcycles like before. Now split that number up based off crusiers and rockets... yeah.. not like the good ol' dayz
>>28994710Boomers
>>28995101>getting spun up because someone in another lane didn't ask to pass youLmao. They claim that they ride apart in a subculture separate from the rest of society but then get panicky and emotional when the rest of society doesn't know their secret rules. They're all like this and I can't take them seriously.
>>28994710They're too expensive. The newer models look fucking gay. Whatever grand-touring cruiser they're making now is as wide as a fucking Corolla. If you're retarded enough to ride a motorcycle, why wouldn't you just get a jap naked bike for 1/3 the price that is way more fun and less cringe?
They are slow, that's itfor a vehicle to be cool, it needs to be fast, or at least powerful like truggsthe cool kids moved on to jap bikes in the 80s and never went backif it wasnt for sons of anarchy romanticizing 60s biker culture, this brand would have died ten years ago, like gibson>how to save it?kill all models except the sons of anarchy one and custom build, make a bike that can do 350 km / h, STOP SELLING TRICYCLES AND WHATEVER THAT TRIANGLE SHIT BOOMERS RIDE IS CALLED
>>28995244I've never ridden a harley, but they do look slow and feel slow. Ive never seen anyone ride fast on a harley. At the end of the day perception becomes reality. To become associated witb boomers is death as a brand.Yes, you can make good music on a gibson guitar. But chances are you are playing faggot zeppelin covers.
>>28995265The difference is, in those decades, working professionals had expendable income. Gen x was the last generation to reach near-universal "boomer wealth".
>>28995316>>28995321I think you're both right to an extent. Different spending habits but also we have more people living paycheck than ever before.
>>28995336Paycheck to paycheck*But still, if millennials really wanted Harleys they'd take out a loan on them I'm sure. Being poor has historically never stopped people from making bad financial decisions.
>>28995244HELL YEAH BROTHER
>>28995316people still have expendable income they just spend it in every direction. stop going to bars and restaurants for one year and oh look at that, money for a fucking bike materializes
>>28995336Millenials have a shit ton of moneyHarleys just aren't cool
>>28995376BROTHER, HELL YEAH
>>28995379You are just poor
>>28995379>>28995382If you cant buy a yacht on a whim you're poor
>>28995379the old ones are, the nu ones aren't
>>28995382Probably but I hit 4 million this year and have a Porsche instead of a donorcycle
>>28995408Larp
>>28994710pricelook at what re is doing and how much they're selling, even though the bikes themselves aren't fast or anything. all people wanted was the image, but the image can't cost more than a used civic
>>28995447Under 4 seconds to 60 is fast enough I think. Ya silly goose
>>28995252>>28995236>>28995379Are y'all not aware young guys have been stunting sportsters and dynas for awhile now??? Harleys aren't fast, but tuned up they're not slow either. Also performance baggers are somehow a thing now. The scene truly is more than oldheads on their full dresser geezerglides, but most of you don't ride so I don't know why you're even in this thread anyway.https://www.instagram.com/_killswitchbikes/reel/BuVLx4ghxiD/
>>28994710>What killed Harleys?They're over priced, boomers are too old to ride them and they're not culturally relevant to younger generations.
>>28995475That explains all the younger people I see on harleys by me and at rallies
>>28994710Its the dealers uninterested in any customer spending less than 30k
>>28995452>tops out at 70they can be quick, but it takes money, yours or the previous owner(s), to go fast
>>28995485You're trying too hard Lil buddy. I cruise at 90 nice n comfy. Try to enjoy life a Lil :)
>>28995483Shiiiit. I got mine under msrp. Feels good man
>>28995101>oh okaylel'd harder than i should have
>>28994710If only you knew how bad things really are
>>28995512What would you rank the family line of fx models.FxrDynaSuper glideWide glideLowrider ??
>>28995101All that tough talk just to get popped by a hayabusa squid with a switch
>>28995535Wdym?
>>28995236>>28995244>>28995252>>28995472>Warped sense of speed.This is why I keep a slow bike or two around. Serves as a palate cleanser.
>Cost as much as a Goldwing with less gizmos and the same outdated techIt's a mystery.
>>28995588So a nightser is the same price as a goldwing?
>>28995244It's not about if you are fast, its about of other people are faster than you. If someone else has a faster bike than you, then they're better than you. The vast majority of people aren't able to separate their egos from their possessions. Their happiness with something isn't based on if they like it, but if other people will like it.>>28995321Some millenials did. In that demographic, there's a huge gulf between doing well and getting by. It warps the mean numbers.>>28995379>not constant dollars>no breakout of the percentilesAggregate data doesn't tell enough of the story here.
>>28994710Yeah the average Harley rider is a boomer but I see tons of 40 and under riders with sporties, dynas and softails. Once they start making money they get a roadglide. I don’t ever think Harley will die, but people just don’t have the disposable income they used to, so it’ll restructure. Also, the Buel Super Cruiser is the bike the lowrider S should have been.
>>28995612Having a bike just to go fast gets boring. Its fun to have different bikes for different occasions
>>28995616Dyna bros are gay as fuck and always sensitive faggots
>>28994710>>28995217Why not just build a chopper you sissies.
>>28995627Because some people like to actually ride instead of sitting on the side of the road broke
>>28995629Sounds like you can't wrench and need a fake excuse to save face
Lol at that hipster ass response
>>28995629You picture the better scenario that will build the greatest moment’s to your life.>(you) and a small group of friends ride cross country and travel American on old piece of shit hand built deathtraps that produce music to the ears.Or >you in a group of 30 something plus other old men in a pack of flamboyant leather stylized motorcycles riding to the nearest ale house or bar just to seek attention and act tough.? Pick wisely.
>>28994901it's the other way around.the cops and your pastor rode Harleys. Honda was for the long haired, unemployed, draft dodgers. until they weren't.ultimately I don't think anything could 'kill' Harley. but the CB750 did at least take a lung.
>>28995620based. the same people who bitch about harleys will never buy one anyway even if they made exactly what they want because its not about the bikes its about hating harleys
>>28995995Yeah. It's just "trendy" to hate them because they're popular
>>28995627I want a bike that's enjoyable to ride and can corner.
HELL YEAH BROTHER
>>28994710Owners turned from drug dealing outlaws to your local dentist and lawyer.
>>28995101WE ARE OUTLAWS HERE ARE OUR RULES!
>>28996263I wish I was balling like that
>>28995379>Note: Millennials defined as those born after 1982Hold up, maybe I am wrong on this but I always considered millenials being born 1990 to 2000. Maaaybe 1988 or 1989. But people born early 80's are supposed to be Gen X and had a totally different life compared to those born in the 90's. Just seems disingenious.
Boomers are dying
>>28996313The standard definition is '82-'96. I think it's stupid too, as an '86. Most of my friends in my late teens and early 20s were Gen X and I feel that I have way more in common with somebody born in 1978 than somebody born in 1994.
>>28994710Their affordable bikes don't look or feel like "real Harleys," turning off younger people who actually like Harleys.They've clung to an image that mostly is only cool to boomers and is just seen as embarrassing by younger people. (Case in point the ubiquitous CRANKIN MAH HAWG memes.)Dealers overinvested in whole walls of Harley-branded clothes that don't sell to younger riders and filled their floors with $30k+ tricked out baggers instead of the sportier options that appeal more to younger people.They've become popular with black guys and anything that becomes popular with blacks ends up losing popularity with everyone else. (Cadillac etc.)
>>28996352Sweet fb meme
>>28996313>>28996335Almost like the "generational divide" is massive bullshit and mostly arbitrary. The only dividing line that will still make sense in 100 years is the people who grew up with the internet and those who didnt
>>28995616There’s a lot of younger Harley riders, but I don’t think Harley knows how to pivot to them. You can still have 50k bikes like the CVO ST, but have somewhat affordable options that still feel like a Harley. The Nightster and Sportster S, feel foreign to me. It doesn’t feel like a Harley.
>>28994710The ultimate boomer bike.They oversold their own meme and now nothing else is left.
>>28996604I agree. I haven't seen many other people point this out, but IMO one of the things that really makes a Harley look like a Harley is that the engine is kinda "naked" and you can see right through the frame around it. The Nightster and Sportster S don't have that and it makes them look like metric bikes.
>>28996665Try harder
I did it.
>>28996651I like the engine in those bikes. Revmax ftw
>>28995112>>28995229>>28995616>>28996317Believe it or not zoomers like myself want pic related we love old school choppers we want to wrench them from time to time.Me personally i like the lowrider but thats about it.
>>28994710Are they dead? From what I've seen they sure as fuck aren't. My insurance broker processes like 10 of these things a day. Is it boomers buying them? No. It's early to mid 30 year olds dropping $40k on these 100hp pieces of shit. To me it still seems like they're printing money.
>>28994710High pricesDeclining number of people going through a midlife crisis who actually like Harley'sBoomers already own one
>>28996651I hate to admit it but Indian is doing a good job of making a modern bike feel like it has heritage. They still have an air cooled bikes and liquid cooled bikes.
>>28997069Yeah, I really like a lot of what they're doing. If I had the money to afford multiple new bikes a Scout would probably be #2 on my list after a midsize ADV.
>>28997069>>28997078Indian motorcycles are trash
>>28997078>>28997069But they killed the ftr ?? Either way i like theyre line up and scouts hold their value.
>>28997200The ftr was such a let down
Dont worry guys Buell will save american cruiser market with the super cruiser.
>>28997206How long until hes closing shop yet again?
>>28997210Its not even Eric this time. Jeets bought the buell so if you want bike from Eric you gotta go with Eric Buell Racing.
>>28994710jews
>>28997214Thats so much worse lol
literally 0 millennials think driving a motorcycle is cool
>>28997493Obvious troll is Obvious
>>28994710 culture makes them allergic to streetbikes
>>28997516But all their bikes are ridden in on the street.
>>28996352HELL YEAH BROTHER I LOVE CRANKIN MAH HAWG,,,,, AND RIDING MY BIKE TOO! :laughing: :laughing: :beer2:--------------------Posted from iPad with TapaTalk
>>28994816there were three davidsons
>>28994710or that they never improved
>>28994868how does this look cool even though it looks garish and tacky?must be the white tires
>>28994710i associate them with fat balding boomers. they're uncool and overpriced.
>>28998196HELL YEAH BROTHER
>>28995236but they didand boomers hate itfirst with vrod then revmaxthey all then bitch about muh ladyboy panam despite non of muh AMERICA will ever buy any of these they all only buy 10 years old used road glide
wait is this a DBT?Because I BAKED one >>28998509
these movies did not help
>>28998512My PanAm was made in MURICA tho.
Some redneck trucker blows these two away.There are no spoilers for 1969 movies.
Same fags who hate Harleys also hate trucksNo one cares about youYou are poorYou irrelevantYou've lost every vote over the past decade
>>28998668Ok nobike
>>28998668You're short, have a small penis, anger issues and unresolved childhood trauma.
>>28998668>You've lost every vote over the past decadeclaiming responsibility for voting in a cabal of pedophile baby raping blood drinking esoteric jewish cultists then trying to pass that off as a good thing is crazy work
>>28998699Wdym
>>28998699The hell are you talking about, I never voted for Biden or Chuck Schumer
>>28998697You argue like a woman, you talk like a fag, and your shit's all retarded.
>>28998512I had a VRod and it was great.I'm thinking about getting a livewire s2.The panam 1250st is a blast but its $20k and i don't wanna finance it
>>28998825>PanAm Fuck yeah
>>28994710I used to think they were a bit lame because of the association with Happy days Fonzie. Now I liked the retro look but the ones you actually want are too expensive. I've been looking into an Indian, a bit cheaper but you get a lot more standard stuff, for example the Harley has a cheap lcd gauge while the Indian has a nice looking classic ones. Went to a bike shop and the guy there said most of the customers are people in their 60's who spend $30k or whatever every 2 or 3 years. So of course they aren't going to give an ish about the guy who can only afford $15k.>>28995252I wanted a big kind of slow comfy bike.
>>28995101Biggest faghots on the road bar none
>>28998870But enough about you
>>28998870Esl?
>>28998865>IndianOof
>>28994710The fxr lowrider was the best motorcycle
I'm a somewhat young person (36) and I've owned three Harleys. I like the classic looks, the feel and sound, and the new ones are plenty fast. I don't care for the baggers much.
>>28998997Ok
>>28998963The fxr was not a lowrider.
>>28994710theyre gay and cobson won
>>28999052Your mother loved my Harley so much she took me to the muffler shop and let me give her the long pipe special.
>>28999057your mother is g.et f.uc.ked by m.a.ny
>>28994710Terminal association with old Nazis and fat ugly women
>>28998956Lol a street shitter bike, nah thats the Royal Enfield, actually a cool looking cheap bike
>>28998953Minor spelling mistake isn't immediately "esl", anon.
>>28998031One with one D, one with two D's, and one with an -ey, right?
>>28994710Harley riders are fags.
>>28999137?
>>28997524 i would say harleys are more like long road bikes but installing smaller tanks is real popular for some reason so they can't even do that
>>28999319You watch too many movies
>>28999020NTA but just search for Harley FXRS and tell me what you find. Actually, ignore that last part. Never talk to me again.
>>28995101Yeah fags like this is what killed harley asspackers.
>>28999432Wdym
>>28999451No one wants to be associated with tiny dick tryhard fags.
>>28999480Idk. All the harkey posters in dbt are super chill
>>28995101boomer unc played too much GTA 4 the lost and damned
>>28995627because choppers (and hot rods) were a fad caused by a generation of men who served in WW2 and got a free fabrication/engineering degree working with tanks and aeroplanes, and then came home and had nothing better to do with their time. meanwhile nobody under the age of 40 even attended shop class in school. the barrier of entry is too high now.
>>28998953
>>29000179So... you're brown
>>28995735Yes I can't wrench thats for the wagies to do
>>28998865The Fonz rode a Triumph, anon.
>>29000670This anon gets it
>>28995627nice build anon
>>28994710>What killed Harleys?
>>28994978you joke but this is like 90% of the reason ebikes became popularthey're cheap, let you commute, and with groceries as expensive as they are, will handily carry 200$ wortheven the bits about not requiring licensing/registration and letting you ride like an asshole are also related to just cost and time. getting a license these days is a time investment a lot of people don't have, and getting a car to practice with (let alone bring to a road test) is expensive and/or impractical for many people
>>28996317>gets up and looks at the car behind him gorilla posed trying to start a fightlmao
>>29000786He rode a 47 Knucklehead Harley first but Winkler didn't like the weight of it and almost crashed a few times so they changed to a Triumph.
>>28996261MF cankles
>>28996317I've seen a few clips of Harleys fishtailing at speed why?
>>29001966rear-biased weight distribution, same reason a trailer with too much weight on the rear becomes uncontrollable.
>>29001981Oh yeah, do goldwings and other baggers get this?
>>29001989do people buy any other baggers? Hardly Ablesons outsell the competition like 30:1, so the overwhelming majority of footage of biker crashes are going to be them simply because of basic statistical probability.
>>29001995No shortage of goldwings and Indians in the world, it's a fair question.
>>29002000and I gave an answer. not enough of them sell for there to be useful data. I have never seen a Goldwing or Chief out in the wild. 60% of bikes I see are Harleys, and the other 40% are Japanese crotch rockets.
>>29002000Polaris Indians are trash
>>29002006Fuck you dickhead.>>29002044And fuck you and the nobike you rolled in on fuckwit.
>>29001966Aspect of the Harley design
>>28999425Thats the superglide.
>>29002153Cry all you want Polaris makes shit bikes
Shovelhead or evo
>>28994710Emissions and noise limits. The emissions limits are so strict that its very hard to legally produce large displacement air/oil cooled engines. Ethanol fuel would be a way to solve this issue but nobody wants it.
>>28995379>>28994710In the 1930s-70s cool people road motorcycles.Then in the 2000s boomers had the disposable income to ride them, and combined with the "motorcycles are for da cool guys" nostalgia a bunch of fat old guys started riding Harleys. Now boomers are geriatric and too old to ride Harleys. But millenials just think of motorcycles as being for fat old dudes and won't touch them.Boomers killed the Harley.
>>28994710Too much rake
>>29002612You're trying too hard
>>28994960I like how your chart pretends that in 1979 the top income earners made the same as the lowest income earners. Really nogs the joggin'.
>>29002274Evo
>>28994710every harley rider is either a wannabe tuff guy boomer, a boomer who is carrying a sawn-off shotgun and too much cocaine, or a fat brown boomer. they literally only appeal to boomerstheir "classic" bikes were cheap milsurp parts with a proper commercial finish, cheap and accessible, but still powerful for the time and place, and had pretty typical (but well-executed) styling. they have become overpriced cariacatures of themselves for people who got lead-related brain damage and have a geometrically inaccurate memory of how things used to be and now demand massive ape hangers on 40 degree rake on a "bike" that's the size of a minivan and only avoids death wobble by having zero ground clearancethey indulge this retardation on purpose because lead-damaged boomers are the only wh*te people with enough disposable income for a bike that costs more than a car
>>29002913U are so dumb fo real.
>>28996352the cheapest softtail is only 14k, how poor are you?
>>29001966its not endemic to the touring bikes, which this does look like, so it was not the cause here, but to the dyna platform, which was vey popularlook up "dyna death wobble"most harley tank slappers are dynas, of course they can happen to all bikes, but harleys being the plurality of registered vehicles we do see a lot of that
>>29003537Sweet fb meme
>>29003744i can understand if you have a duckaty panigalley 10000rrr-ss speciale v4 corsa edition but like you cant do this with a normal bike.
>>29003744HELL YEAH BROTHER
>>29003744>Outlaw demands the law
Was gifted a Harley Softail DeluxNicer than my Kawasaki Vulcan 900 Classic LTLoud as fuck tho
>>28994710The UJM killed Harleys, it wasnt a fast death it was a slow decline when people who ride bikes realised Harleys are retarded.The only people still buying them are boomers.You could have a harley or for less money you could have a superior in every single way UJM.what do you choose anon?
>>29006539Harley, specifically a WL/WLA
>>29003744I would pass your harley with my tomboy wife on the back stay mad brother
>>29006540Okay but make sure you get the right seat for it fag Harleys are the big gay only old boomers like them.
>>29006549>NOOO HOW DARE YOU LIKE SOMETHING I DON'T LIKEAlso why would I put a honda seat on a Harley?
>>29002742It's exactly correct though. Boomers bought them for nostalgia and the brand is uncool and even boomers are too old to ride them anymore. Why buy a beetus chopper?
If anything ever does kill Harley it's going to be the United States becoming a predominately non-white nation.
>>28995772Imagine having freinds....Or caring what others think of your optics
>>28994824doesn't Triumph already do that?
>>28995252Try itPopular for reason
>>28994824king of the bagger engines are air cooled v-twins, which neither of those companies produceif they allowed the r18 in it would be pretty bad since the engine reduces the maximum lean angle you could give the motorcycle while i imagine you could juice the six cyclinders of the gwing above and beyond a v-twin if you also removed the configuration and air cooling requirements, as it stands, comparing output to output at the wheel, the goldwing actually comes in underneath the high output m8 engines
>>29002044>>29002203Polaris sold the name, but do they still make the bikes?
>>29006912>R18Nah man I'm talking K1600GTL. Would be straight up embarrassing for the boomer chariots.
>>28994710Not dead at all. They're in significant financial decline because they can't get away with squeezing boomers for car-priced bikes anymore, but the people running around screaming that Harley is dead are falling victim to the same social trends that they are claiming killed Harley. We're seeing the ebbs and flows of culture and counter-culture everywhere and its no different with bikes. Harleys were the counter-culture for a while, then they became the culture, and we're wrapping back around to where its claim to counter-culture status is legitimate again. The popular opinion is now that Harleys are lame. Harleys are for fags. There's an entire episode of South Park dedicated to taking the piss out of Harley riders specifically and that makes riding one counter-cultural. Modern western society has been carefully crafted to destroy masculinity, masculine iconography and masculine experiences. Men are taught to be weak, vulnerable, dependent, effeminate, and apologetic. This culture naturally breeds counter-culture which means that HD is ripe for a resurgence.
>>29006927>Modern western society has been carefully crafted to destroy masculinity, masculine iconography and masculine experiences. Men are taught to be weak, vulnerable, dependent, effeminate, and apologetic. This culture naturally breeds counter-culture which means that HD is ripe for a resurgenceSo the solution is to dress up in easy rider cosplay and roll around going BRABUBURBABAAABABABABABBRUURBBABABABA?You can't make money off a counterculture, because they're by definition a bunch of broke-ass social left-behinds. This modern myth shit about Harley being for outsiders is fucking stupid. They never were and the company's success has always been tied to how popular they were in the given popular culture. Their customer base has *always* been normal people.>inb4 but they were sold on the dream of counterculutral advertisingNo they weren't.
>>29006927Nigga that SP episode is 17 years old, if Harley were coming back round they would have by now.
>>29006539I wish they still made affordable UJMs
>>29006503Put stock pipes back on it.Your local dealer will have a pile of new take offs in the warehouse for cheap because every dummy buys a new bike and puts some ear-bleed exhaust on it immediately
>>29006918>you can make a six cylinder engine more powerful than a two cylinder engineyou dont say in any case, the k1600gtl makes 147 horses at the wheel. four whole extra cylinders to get 25 more horses than the 131 m8 engine. SAD
>>28998655People used to know how to tale out the trash.
Because they're expensive as dogshit.Only boomers can afford them and fresh out of the military guys blowing a year's salary to LARP as an alcoholic Vietnam Vet.Also sportbikes have been cooler since the late 90's around the time the Hyabusa started taking off.Really its just dangerous as fuck driving at all when your country gets flooded with foreigner and all of the boomers are collectively going senile.No, legitimately over the last 5-10 years the traffic has become so insanely dangerous
>>29006987>550cc deficit>25 more horses>only 10 lb ft lessWtf are Harley even doing with that gas?
>>29007365Exteme amounts of torque.The V twin actually feels incredible
>>29007369Read my post again. It only makes 10 more peak than the BMW. Yeah it makes it lower down but why not buy a Live wire if all you want is instant torque and no top end.
>>29007384The livewire doesn't have a dealer support network anymore.That crap is ancientPeople like them because the engine is extremely torquey and they're heavy.They feel like the trucks of motorcycles.They just feel different from anything else on the market other than some other cruiser companies.
>>29006917Doesn't matter. The new ones are horrible quality
>>29007288>they're expensiveNightster goes for under 10k new btw
>>29006985ThanksIt has some screaming eagle 3 or whatever on it nowI would prefer purring cat 1At 93,000 miles the pipes might be 5he most valuable thing on the bike. Still looks decent tho.
>>29011218Bad larp is bad
>>29006955they literally sold a Confederate Edition bike in the 70s
>>29011286Confederate memorabilia was extremely popular and not in any way demonized until recentlyDukes of Hazzard ran until 85, you can find pictures of progressives posing happily in front of confederate flags into the very early 2010s.
>>29011286that shit was NOT counterculture in the 70s lmao
Lot of mouthy motherfuckers ITT
>>29012079Ok nobike
>>28994710
>>28994710>that front tire
>>29012114It's backwards
>>29012079Callin up the Club to deal with this nonsense... Mommas boys cant deal with real hogs on real bikes...
THESE DAMB CAGERS DON DID GRASS CLIBBINS ON THE ROAD HADDALAYERDOWN HOSS
*rubs Harley-Davidson shaped tummy*idk :)
>>29013481Wdym
Bump
>>28994710Stigma of being exclusively ridden by boomers, as their consumer base slowly dies off there's nobody left to think they're cool motorcycles. Also the logic that if you're gonna put your life out there riding on two wheels might as well go fast. Cafe bikes are still cool among hipsters I think? They aren't common where I live.
>>29016856You sound like a nobike
>>29016867I have one of those $400 mini bikes that tractor supply sells.
So a nobike parroting fb memes
>>29016874You can be as mad as you want, there's still truth behind the memes.
The nobike thinks her opinion matters. Cute!
>>28994710Boomers getting too old to ride and Zillennials not being able to afford them. I just got a Honda 1100.
>>29016891What are these buzzwords?
>>29001848holy projection
>>29016893Zillennials. A word for young millennials (people currently in their early 30s) and old zoomers (people currently in their late 20s). The in-betweeners.
>>29016901Ohhh. Ur a faggot
>>28999076mumma
>>29016903NTA but you're a moron, sorry you had to find out this way>>29016901I call the zilllenial zoomers VHS zoomers because they're the last to know what that is. They're also the last humans in history to experience developing in a world before technology (social media mainly) was mainstream. There was tech, but nothing remotely invasive like today.
>>28995379>millennial wealth quadrupledOr the inflation has tripled-quadrupled since covid and the wealth of the rich has gone up proportionally?
>>28994710South Park killed Harleys for millennials, it made them look gay.
>>29017031I think a lot of people already felt that way by that point, South Park just said it out loud. The whole outlaw biker thing was kinda like emo or something, it was only cool to one pretty narrow generation and seemed really stupid and faggy to everybody outside it.
>>29017051It's because shield chuds were larping as rebels while deep throating boots. It was a performance to hide what sheepdogs they really were They never went across state lines, they just revved in traffic or stared at them in their garage.Inauthentic bad boy attitudes with 0 interest in moving away from the old ways while pushing unfathomable amounts of corpo brand merch is what killed it>tldr HD chudded too close to the sun
>>29017057This, it was performative
Unironically south parkThey still haven't recovered from that one episode.
HELL YEAH MILLENNIAL BROTHERS
>>29017114If I woke up and that was my garage I'd kill myself.
>>29017122Nice
>>28994710idk anon but Harleys make the best looking cruisers
>>28994710Harley shot itself in the foot multiple times. They stuck to the outlaw gang image past its heyday, they refused to innovate and market their innovations, they never diversified, and their prices are way out of 90% of riders' budgets. A base nightster is more than a well spec'd parallel twin naked of any of the big 4 which all offer better performance. Their pricing pushes their bikes into territory with stuff it can't compete with
>>29017488Tldr
Remember the 350cc two stroke racer.Nor me.There were a bunch of small motorcycles from Aermacchi that probably never got to the US.
>>29006979Universal Jap Multi is usually reserved for transverse fours but we get your meaning.
>>29016891you just got a honda 1100? which is 1000 dollars more expensive than a nightster? because you couldnt afford a harley >>29017348the fat boy redesign when it got the m8 engine was a big miss imo
>>29018968Most of these kids are hating on harley because its trendy
