Are they as good as the boomers say? Should I buy a car with a v8? Will I cry about the fuel economy? Is the power worth it?
I get about 18-23 mpg out of the old Ford 4.6 2v. It's nice to drive, and smooth as hell. But it only makes about 200hp
>>29001918Differential and driving style make a big difference. In my crown vic I usually got 13 mpg. 3.27 gears, mostly city driving, and a heavy foot.
>>29001900It's worth it for the feel and the sound. The power is nice too even though you can make the same power with a modern turbo 4 banger.
>>29001900v8s are actually overrated.Heavy and weigh the car downbad on gasnot actually very fast. A modern NA v8 will make roughly 400-500hp, older ones made way less.Power is much higher in RPM compared to a turbo or twin turbo car which has instant power even at like 2k rpm (more important in a manual car)Not that easy to work on, hot vee designs are unreliable.A twin turbo I6 is better. Yeah you can turbo or supercharge a V8 but the amount of power you get is excessive for most purposes when you can get 600hp out of a stock 3l TT. And in the performance applications where you might want that much power you want a 6 cylinder for less weight or a diesel for work purposes.
>>29001900>Are they as good as the boomers say?Yes, nothing beats the sound of an NA V8.>Should I buy a car with a v8?Sure>Will I cry about the fuel economy?Depends on which one you get and how much you floor it. Vettes get pretty good mileage on the highway.>Is the power worth it?Get a V8 for the soul and feel. If you just want to go fast in a straight line a faggy BEV will do that until it burst into flames.
>>29002011Cylinderlet cope
>>29002020>>29001934>muh soundboomer detected
Boomershit is all poserism. They think its masculine because its big.Looks pretty gay when you realize all these things make like 50kw with a 10L v8
>>29001900The libruls don't want us to have naturally aspirated V8 engines. Think about why that might be...
VH41 at 9000rpm is nice
>>29002111Now we wait for Anon to post an example of a 10L engine making 50kw. >he won't post one
>>29001900Yes. Naturally aspirated V8 often are most reliable, long lasting engines if you maintain them on time. They can last even above million miles, like the Toyota Tundra 5.7l V8(3UR-FE). though bad engines do exist and the bad engines often have a cylinder deactivation feature, one bad naturally aspirated V8 engine that should be avoided like plague is the GM 6.2liter V8 L87 because this engine does have serious defects and blow's up prematurely.Turbocharged/supercharged gasoline engines are inherently bad reliability engines.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yI8DZ-Xt-chttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYsUVAjeTgMPoor fuel economy can hurt some people minds, but its not really because V8 design itself. Its more often because most V8 are built using older technologies than majority of modern inline4. Also the V8 engines more often are bolted to older technology transmissions unless its muscle or race car. Very small amount of V8 engines have any hybrid systems while most modern inline4's are bolted to hybrid systems.
>>29002011>not actually very fastford made 2 bad v8s in the 2000s and now everyone thinks v8s are slow. v8s gm, dodge and modern ford wise are faster than 80% of cars on the road.
Is the 5.7 hemi good?
>>29002422I personally think it’s one of the best designed, most aesthetic engines ever made since the pre-1999 Porsche flat 6. It’s not the fastest, or the longest lasting or even the most unique. But its whole design philosophy was big, understressed v-aight for Americans. And they made it easy to work on because they made it cheap and parts will fail
euros and non wrenchers talking about v8s is the most infuruating racket of all time
>>29002011A modern aluminum V8 is barely heavier than a turbo 4. A v8 pretty much just adds the weight of the extra head, rods, and cylinders. The crankcase is only marginally larger. A turbo 4 adds a turbo and requires packaging for charge piping and an intercooler. A turbo 6 is actually the worst solution because it adds weight both with turbos, but also the need for a more rigid crankshaft because of torsion. It is also a nightmare to package.
>>29002422>16 spark plugs>terrible fuel economy>hemi tick>no powerThere's a reason why nobody Hemi swaps anything.
>>29002473>wrench-lette>30 mpg highway>solved ten years ago>lolIt’s too large to swap into modern sleepers like the LS can but it’s the go to for classic car mods for a reason
>>29001900NoYesYesMaybe
>>29002480>it’s the go to for classic car mods for a reasonIt's not. What does it take to get it to 1000hp? Exactly.
>>29001900>Are they as good as the boomers say? Yes>Should I buy a car with a v8?Yes>Will I cry about the fuel economy?It's about the weight and shape of the car you put a V8 in. The extra internal engine loses are not that big of a deal.>Is the power worth it?It's the fact that it's the simplest way to make that power. You can have 500hp with engine unstressed and unbothered.
>>29002492>HURRRRR U GOTTA HAVE 1000HP + IN YOUR CLASSIC CAR
>>29002275Its called hyperbole you genuine actual retard.
>>29002499I found a first Gen new charger I like with a hemi. Low miles. I know it will be somewhat quick and comfy but not being a 6.1 or 6.4 kind of a let down?
>>29002011>but the amount of power you get is excessive for most purposes
>>29002011Fag
>much soundAnybody with ears knows that V10s produce the best sound.
>>29002585The only V10 you'll experience is the one in your school bus. They're pointless in the real world.
>>29002535*uneducated parroting
>>29002593>They're pointless in the real world.The same argument can be made for V8s
>>29002630Nah. V8's are the jack of all trades engines. They can reliably power your work van or truck for 500k miles or you can stick one in a good chassis and out-perform hypercars.
>>29002635That was only true about 50 or 60 years ago.Everything that could be done by a V8 back then can easily be accomplished with a modern inline 6.
>>29002660Which turbo i6 is going to make it to 500k miles with an ungodly amount of engine idle hours moving a 7000lb work van on just a handful of oil changes?
>>29002660not everything.
>>29002011let me guess,auto over manual, too?
>>29001900Not stock. Tuned, absolutely.Absolutely.Probably not, actually. If you're just driving normally, your car's mileage is largely dictated by CDa and weight. It only requires a small amount of horsepower to get you down the road, and no matter how powerful your engine is, it takes the same amount of power at the wheels to go a given speed for a given car. If your engine is capable of 2 or 10 times that number, it doesn't matter, cuz that's all you're using at the moment. This is how my 89 C4 vette got an honest 28mpg highway. Of course, if you hammer it a lot, your mileage will suffer. But that's all engines. You just tend to do it more in a v8 because it's so much more fun.Oh yeah. Big time.
>>29002560The vast majority of the time you'll be more than pleased with it. It's only at WOT above 4k where the 5.7 could be said to be disappointing as it just doesn't have that zing for the redline up there that a performance engine would.
>>29001900DOHC v8 like coyote are superior. Push rods are for shit dogs.
>>29002011Time for your sex change
>>29002812You're quite misinformed. Pushrods push Gods.
>>29002814Ok Cletus
>>29002472i6 doesn't need a harmonic balancer doe
>>29002675any diesel 10l litre displacement engine
>>29002812take your ohc niggerdliness and fuckoff as far as your exploding cam phasers and disintigrating chain guides can take you.
>>29002834Which one?
>>29001934i am sorry that you have a micropenis
>>29002886I only ever owned 4 cylinders and I have a massive cock
>>29001900They are more powerful than ever that you don't notice the weight of even really heavy cars and the fuel economy can often stop mid 90's V6 engines and even some 4 bangers. The issue is the car bodys with them are massive, car sizes from the 90's were better for me and older classics were even better.>>29002699very cool, rust is cool because it repels boomers>>29002011In the old days a v8 could 1/3 to 1/4 of the cars weight.
>>29002834it still needs a fat crank pulley to balance out the torsional forces.
> Are they as good as the boomers say?Yes> Should I buy a car with a v8? Yes> Will I cry about the fuel economy? Only if youre poor > Is the power worth it?Yes
>>29002419>v8s gm, dodge and modern ford wise are faster than 80% of cars on the road.and the 20% that are faster are EVs so they don't count lel
>>29002836That's going to fit in a work van? Also what if I don't want to deal with the modern bullshit on a modern diesel?
>>29002605Sorry you lack basic social skills and reading comprehension
>>29002993You can get good fuel economy if you just believe
>>29002960gee bill, three 6 rib serps?engineers living in the fuckin 70s thinking cars still need 3 belts
>>29003047It won't fit. We need to go back to old tech diesels. Stop the whining about a bit of black smoke. When the engine lasts longer, it's better for the environment than only lasting 200,000 miles and requires piss to run
>>29003702The emission bullshit is only part of the issue. Diesel fuel it's self would need to get a fuck of a lot cheaper to make the diesel cost of entry worth it. Modern gassers and 8/10 speed trannies have changed a lot of things and made it so you should only get a diesel is you REALLY need a diesel. An old school fully mechanical diesel will still fuck your wallet when it comes to maintenance and repairs compared to a gasser.
>>29002011Somehow i knew you were gonna be a I6 fag the second you complained about v8 weight despite I6s being heavy and large thanks to no block area shared between cylinders
>>29003260yes sir yes sir three belts soone for the power steeringone for the water pumpand one for the air conditioning that's off to the sideit's a pulley from a 7M so yeah...it's an engine from the 80s. You decide if you want the redundancy of multiple belts, or one belt to rule them all.
>>29002585That's just the LFA. Which sounds amazing, I'll grant you that
>>29002888You're so cool bro will you fuck me
>>29002675
>>29003260>>29003811>ac belt snaps>engine destroyed, car totaledthis is obviously the superior option
>>29001900V8s used to be great.Now they have "cylinder deactivation" and "variable displacement" so they SUCK.Fucking ruined.
>>29002838White nigger cope
>>29004267I am going to fred durst your ass down the stairs and hurl my cast iron cylinder head collection at you from the top.
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