>/CCG/, thermostat temp is different than coolant temp edition >For Classics made from 1979 or older, with few exceptions.>Everybody has their own taste, but some tastes are wrong. If you aren't sure if your car is classic or not, it's not.>Your Honda Miata doesn't belong here.>US, Euro, Jap, or whatever.>Post your classic, your work on it, your hackery, and get advice.>Any and all discussion about classics welcome, but may not necessarily generate responses; don't get butthurt.>Period correct performance > cosmetics.>Metal > plastic.>Classic shitbox > modern shitbox.>JBweld and RTV can fix anything>If you see rust there is more.>Rust and bodywork are the most difficult thing to repair.>Electrical work is difficult until you stop reading forum posts and buy a multi-meter.>Low oil pressure? Worn mains and rod bearings. Use Lucas and 15W40 until you afford a rebuild.>Do NOT buy a classic and plan to pay someone to work on it. You need to be able to do 90% or more of the work or you will go broke.>You will spend twice your budget, unless you have years of experience. If the salty old hands agree, it's true.>If you can't tune a carb you might literally be retarded>Nothing is as easy as it seemsPrevious thread: >>28981135
>>29007305>Do NOT buy a classic and plan to pay someone to work on it. You need to be able to do 90% or more of the work or you will go brokei wonder how many people that do this are just a different twist on the people that lease new cars for appearance's sake versus those that are actually filthy rich
>>29007324i bought my car from someone that was paying a (shitty) shop to get it on the road he straight up told me he couldn't afford to have someone else work on it anymore
>>29007325There was that one anon ages ago that was paying a shop to work on his leyland or something. Poor dude got taken to the cleaners over some power steering hoses or something iirc. If he’s around he can correct me.
Lmao shiieeetI guess I should've done this way earlier, I'm surprised these brakes were even working.I got the piston out of one of them, but I can't get the other one out, even with an air compressor.These are gonna take a ton of time to clean up.Do I have to use high temp paint? Or can I just getaway with rust converter spray paint?
Also decided to check out the driver seat because some of the power options weren't working.I was hoping it was something simple, but...
>>290073472 of the 3 electromagnet coils had melted and welded themselves, destroying the coils.I don't know how I thought the transmission of these 6-way power seats worked, but I was not expecting this.When I had the seat hooked up to a car battery to test it, the lights on my Milwaukee wrench kept lighting up, I guess because of the coils create an electrical field or something?Anyways this seems to be an impossible part to find. So I guess I'll try and find one at a partyard someday.
>>29007349It's crazy to me how hot these must've gotten.The middle one is blue'd from heat and the other one is cooked.Maybe there was a short or something at some point?
fresh build, running rich overall. jetting it today. these are the plugs as they were in the engine if i were standing in front of the car looking at it. am i right in thinking i should jet up slightly on the driver's side primary and jet down heavily on the passenger side primary?
>>29007774>setting mix/jetting from plugsdon't do this shit.
>>29007835do you have a better idea?
>>29007345Just hit em with a wire wheel and blast them with WD40.
If I paid someone to redo this POS, it'd be a six-figure job.
>>29007774You shouldn't have to cross-stagger jet like that. Something is wrong somewhere and I'm leaning towards somebody overjetting somewhen to try and compensate for a lean condition. Perhaps one booster doesn't flow or something similar.
>>29007930Yard art
>>29007930Since a 100 point restoration is out of the question looks like it's time for an LS swap and rattle cans.
>>29007932i know it shouldn't be like it is but it do. carb is brand new with stock jets. i built the motor, probably 300 miles on it now. i did ever so slightly lower the float level yesterday so i'm gonna clean the plugs and check em again to see if it leaned or evened out at all before i mess with the jets.
>>29007972>carb is brand newNow we know it's fucked lol
>>29007947Don’t forget airbags and mustang 2 front end
>>29007947Needs to be a 454lsx with twin turbos and nitrous, gearstar th400 with a gearvendors od, while it's collecting 7 entire miles in 30 years
Newportbro glad to see you in the mountains of Colorado
>>>29008013>while it's collecting 7 entire miles in 30 yearsKek, many such cases
>>29007875vacuum gauge and wideband o2 sensor with afr gaugelite version of the carb cheater will also work, is pretty much the same but you can upgrade to the full version which has a data logger if you decide you want the extra functions later on
>>29008102>vacuum gauge and wideband o2 sensor with afr gaugei have both, that's how i know its rich overall. WOT is around 11:1. point of my original question was in regards to the lean 1 and 3 cylinders in relation to the rest of them, since i need to jet down but those 2 are already too lean.
>>29008118was it doing that prior to the build? if not maybe need to start an RMA?
>>29007774What intake manifold are we talking about here?
>>29008121it wasn't doing anything prior to the build because it's all brand new.>>29008131single plane edelbrock scorpion, basically a 70s victor jr.
>>29008147o rite. well im not sure then. maybe you got a dodgy carb
https://www.swva.co.uk/vehicle/tfotnx4ulalnnxtaezx0lcxe4Well, this is fucking neat.
>>29007943Believe it or not, the thing is restorable. There's zero rust through on the fenders and the body is aluminum.>>29007947I may do an OM617 swap while rebuilding the engine if it turns into a multi-year project, but that's unlikely. Ideally, I'll tackle the drivetrain, then the body. I may run it as a speedster while redoing the interior.
>>29008147Dude.Its like this?Im going to go slam my head against a brick wall for about an hour while the collective knowledge of /o/ formulates a response to rejetting either primary side differently to compensate for cylinders 1 & 3.
>>29008176>It is MOT’d until May 2027What's that going to take to re-up? Can't imagine it's quick and easy for modded cars with zero emissions equipment left. Still, not like you'll find a better hot rod for the money over there.And I don't care if it's in Ingerland, it needs more fan and a shroud. Wonder what's up with the single red reflector/light slung under the back bumper. I probably would have preferred double back up lights, but hey, it's a lightweight racing XJS lol
>>29008147>single plane edelbrock scorpion, basically a 70s victor jr.Fuckin' knew it.The fuel's not making the turn towards the front. Try a 1 inch spacer first. Whatever you can get your hands on easy to see if that evens things out.Alternatively, you could try to fab a shim that hangs out in the flow path under carb in the front to try and create a spoiler effect that makes the air/fuel mic turn tighter. Ford played that game with the 5.0 CFI LTD LX's after they proved to starve the front cylinders due to poor distribution from a shitty manifold design.
Doesn't Drac have a swapped XJS?
>>29008224>What's that going to take to re-up?Not much, MOT stuff is mostly safety related, and it's really not *that* difficult to pass providing your car isn't an absolute shit heap. Rust is usually the main reason why cars fail, and this looks in good order. Some testers can be a bit cuntish, though, which is why it's always nice to know a tester who'll give you a moody test.>Can't imagine it's quick and easy for modded cars with zero emissions equipment leftBit of a grey area, but our emissions stuff is quite lax for old cars, regardless of swaps and the like. Pic rel is the chart MOT testers are supposed to follow, but with classic stuff most testers just stuff a rag up the exhaust to trick the machine into thinking all is good. As a side note, that Jag will not need an MOT next year, as anything older than 40 years doesn't require an MOT or road tax; it means owning a classic here can be cheaper and easier than running a modern car in some cases.>Wonder what's up with the single red reflector/light slung under the back bumperThat'll be a fog light - by law, cars from 1980 and up need to have a rear fog light by law, and most people who import cars from countries without them are too lazy to blend it in nicely, so they just hang it off the back somewhere. Most of the time you can get away with just wiring up the third brake light as your fog light, which is a rather tidy way of keeping things both legal and clean.
>>29008233Yeah, though I think he has a small block. Could be wrong, though.
>>29008202yup just like that.>>29008227that's an interesting idea. i do have some spare spacers i can try. still seems odd that the other 3 corners are fine as there's nothing particularly unique about the front driver's side corner. unless there's a gasket leak on the underside of the intake.
>>29008013meanwhile my buddy is adamant that once i drive his 500+ hp drag monster i'll want moar power in my dailylike...no thanks, bro. i really am happy with where it's at now. i've already spent enough money just going to a hydraulic roller cam and just want to drive the damn thing till the wheels fall off.
>>29008233Didn't he leave?
>>29008309Hopefully
>>29007774Don't forget ignition
>>29008333It’s obviously the control arm bushings
>>29008347those were the first things i checked, obviously.
This is my black pearl
The local Volvo guy found me and exchanged numbers. Might have a manual swap in the works cheap. >>29008309He never touched any of his big projects and was mostly just trying to flip cars which is... a fruitfull endeavor... Probably homeless
>>29008429i legitimately tried to figure out why this car had such tall smokes stack for no reason. those are unfortunately placed utility poles.
>>29008504Fret not.A 69 Pontiac Abody, powered by primitive dino fumes v8 is my dream
>>29008260Eh. Single planes are known to have ditribution problems. Look up a Brodix Turtle sometime.Did a little memory refreshing and found that people are taking the easy way out of situations like yours now and just cross-stagger jetting lol
>>29008512spacer plants have very consistent growth rates; water them once a day for two weeks and you'll have a 1/2 inch spacer. water them twice a day for the same amount of time and you'll get a 1 inch spacer. The pioneers used to farm these babies for years.
>>29007943This thing probably still starts up
>>29008260>still seems odd that the other 3 corners are fine as there's nothing particularly unique about the front driver's side cornerIts because of the firing order- how the air charge is being pushed through the intake.Think of the carb as the flame and how intake pulses flow in one direction and then another.Single planes suck ass and like >>29008227 mentioned theyre notorious for lean comditions. That thing was designed with a slide rule before computers were available. Its more art than performamce.Theyre good for forced induction but on an N/A build that extra 5hp up top is nothing compared to the overall performance and lack of headache of a good dual plane.
>>29008613the intake was the inspiration for the entire build and car i put it in so i'm going to have to work around it.
>>29008552Drivetrain is still there, motor does turn over by hand, but its missing a couple things. The rest of that poor stude is shot.
>>29008620You can start with a spacer but I see an insert in your future like other anon brought up.Im guessing DT105 is compatible
>>29008509Clip your tail pipes on the 11'8" bridge
>>29007930I'd just put a straight axle and narrowed 8.8 and a 6 cylinder and let it rip as-is
>>29007352Button could've jammed, busted shit up and overheated the rest. Power window motors specifically have mechanical fuses (wax links) to keep the motors from burning out if this happens.
I need that V8 dawg. Sleepy six has gotta go. It's too hot put to start a swap though.
>>29008771>11'8" bridge+8"
>>29009027wait all this time it's had a six? damn, must've been interesting going on the tail of the dragon
>>29009425You've got me mixed up with someone else, I've never driven the Tail.
>>29009893oh, the other anon has a very similar looking car. but i think his was branded ford rather than mercury now that i think about it
You guys get your ride on a rockauto magnet yet?I'm waiting till my car is in peak condition before I submit my picture.https://www.rockauto.com/Newsletter/photoTips.html
>>29010434mine's got paint that looks good 20 ft away so i'll take a photo from there and i'll send my name in as chang lol
>>29010455lmao, what if they want you in their monthly newsletter? Will you stick to the Chang name?
>>29010458kek honestly i dunno. it's really tempting though, especially since i am actually asian too
>>29010478LADIES AND GENTLEMENXI JINPING'S 1969 PONTIAC LEMANS WITH A CUSTOM SMALL BLOCK PONTIAC AND 5 SPEED LIGHTNING SHIFT TRANSMISSION
>>29010481suddenly i'm thinking of the chinese car copypasta but with an american classic instead>presentsing the 1996 pontica lehmons>the big yes
>>29010485it has the large block 455dual carburizers and high flow intake exhaustpleased to notice the 4 speed transition on the floor
>>29011111amazing get.so many boomers need to unlearn their faggot sbc lore and read the manual in regards to this
>>29011113Dude.Youre talking about GM.They L I T E R A L L Y had a service bulletin that told dealer mechanics who encountered new SBCs that were burning oil to dump 20 Mule Team Borax down the carb to scratch up the cylinder walls because they were honed incorrectly at the factory and the oil control ring couldn't do its job.The boomer workarounds are the only reason the SBC is ubiquitous- otherwise the minor details would have killed off the platform.
impromptu wire harness wrapping station, not for my car but for my buddy's impala
>>29011299kek you almost got me
>>29011346Shit.My bad.It was "Bon-Ami", not "20 Mule Team Borax"
>>29011363intradastingbut stop using AI
>>29011427It wouldnt be this way if I still had access to GM's mainframe.But here we are....
hnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng
>>29011755why the fart wide
>>29011363At least post the actual sourceI looked up the same thing and AI's only "source" was boomer hearsay and well-i-remember bullshit on cartalk.comAIfags are so retarded
>>29011842>actual sourceLike the service bulletin that was typed on paper, stuffed into an enevelooe, had a stamp slapped on it and mailed to dealers 70 years ago because computers didnt exist yet?
not the service bulletin, but printed word boomer lore
>>29011921Thanks for the assist bro.
>>29011805wat
>>29011921>>29011927https://autohistory.org/michael-lamm/seems like that guy might know some things
>>29012642>LammYea sure, just keep guzzling up whatever goyslop that (((historian))) says.
Zoomers really are a lost cause.If there isnt a website devoted to it they wont believe it existed.We really are living 1984.
>>29007345That looks like a dead animal in the thumbnail
>>290131121955 isn't ancient history. if it was a common widespread service bulletin, GM fanboys would've found and scanned the doxx
>>29013112Boomers are notorious for beleiveing in old wives tales and offhand unverified comments and stating them as facts. Aka "fudd lore." No shit I won't believe a single "fun fact" they say without documentation
>>29013227>>29013285If it was false then GM would have had an official statement in rebuttal against examples like >>29011921Do you really believe one of the largest corporations on earth would allow slander in print?
>>29013292>Do you really believe one of the largest corporations on earth would allow slander in printNo why would they give a shit
>>29012120exhaust runners are longer width ways which us weird.
>>29013399Air doesnt know the difference.
No lowballs I know what i got
>>29014919>fucking Cletus you dumbshit- I told you to find a a barn to put it in not find a barn to put on it.
>>29014921WELL YEAH BILL IT AINT PRETTY NOW BUT I SEEN SOME OF THESE MUSEUM GRADE BEAUTS MAKIN TEN MILL AT BARRET- JACKSON SO IF SOME CITY SLICKER GIVES ME ONE FAIR MILLION HE CAN KEEP THE OTHER NINE FIXIN HER TOO RICH FOR MY BLOOD I AINT NO COLLEGE BOY. WATCH THESE WORDS SHELL BE AT PEBBLE BEACH NEXT YEAR N ILL BE IN FLOREDA HAHAHA
>>29014927Pic related sold for $1.8 million.
These look expensive
Last pic before the warehouse guy spotted meThere was a blue nissan gtr skyline nimso nt yada yada but I didn't get a pic, not really a nippon enthusiast
>>29014977>KKKarBased
i'd rather have a Pantera than all that stuff
>>29014988Is this "gaem" any good
>>29014997Depends on what you find funny. I found both the 1st and 2nd installment quite entertaining, though I wouldn't bother with "The Flip Side" - it's very short, and doesn't add much.Watch a few clips on YouTube and see if you find it funny, if you do, then give it a shot.
Thoughts on re-lapping valves? I noticed that the valve faces and seats were pretty nasty looking, which included some light pitting, so I figured it would probably be worthwhile re-lapping them. Wasn't until after I did the job that I did some research and discovered that lapping valves seems to be a fucking massive point of contention, and it's got me second guessing.
>>29016714Dangerous game and easy to fuck up
>>29016788n00b
>>29016788I mean, I guess so, but I don't see how it's any more dangerous than other parts of building an engine; people will quite happily hone their own bores, yet somehow that's nowhere near as questionable despite being just as dangerous and easy to fuck up? Seems odd to me.
>>29016714I've always been told to only do enough to clean the seat and move on. Apparently the seats have a very specific cut to them to seal and transfer away heat excess polishing can ruin these aspects so you would have to get a dedicated valve seat cutter to recut the seats if you went the town on the polishing
>>29016900Rings compensate for for the difference in size between the piston and cylinder.They can expand and contract.The seat IS the seal on the valve.If you want to test valve seats, you flip the head upside down and with valves seated you fill the combustion chamber with a thin solvent. There should be zero leakage past the valve/seats.Do you think you polished it without any distortion or variances to have a perfect seal?
>>29017041i've lapped aircraft engine oil control valves and they almost always have a slow leak (within design tolerance of course)
>>29016878>thinks replacing a head gasket once makes him "an engine builder".
>>29017041>you flip the head upside down and with valves seated you fill the combustion chamber with a thin solventI sprayed brake cleaner into the exhaust and intake ports, that good enough? No leaks from any of them. Also held a light to the ports while in pitch darkness, and didn't see a single lux's worth of light around the valve from any angle. Might have been a bit pointless, but I figured better safe than sorry.
>>29017041>They can expand and contract.Sure, but if you fuck up the honing pattern, you can fuck up how well oil can lubricate the cylinder bores.
>>29017046They teach valve lapping in fuckin high school shop class
>cleaning garage >move car and everything else out>go to move it back in>"I'll run it up the road and back">come back and hour laterI take it this happens a lot
>>29017274>tell the wife i'm just gonna test out some new jetting on the carb>"be right back">2 hours and a set of rear tires later
>>29017273Explain the technique to the class.
>>29017297Step 1: send the valves around the trackStep 2: pass them Step 3: without letting them pass you, pass them again
>>29017297Don't you just put them in a drill, mix some soft sand in grease, then smear that mixture between the seat and the valve and let 'er rip for 30 seconds?
1973 Impala tutone
>>29017569I actually have a similar pic of myself as a toddler washing the hubcaps of my dad's '64 falcon half a decade ago.And no.I wont post it.Bur you should focus on capturing these moments from your own world because theyre fleeting and irreplaceable.
>>29017596>myself as a toddler>half a decade agokek, MODS
>>29017418apparently that's how you fuck shit up. From what I've read you're meant to put a bit of lapping compound all around the seat, then turn the valve 1/8 to 1/4 of a turn back and forth until a contact pattern is made, and just spinning the valve won't be as good.
>>29017606Lol.Meant half a century.It was late man
>>29017476Nope 1978
>>29017964>he typed, while sucking on his binky
>Go to fire up Stingray for the first time in a month>Haven't driven it because no stations nearby that have no-ethanol gas, and the last time gas went up, stations were illegally putting 25%+ in some tanks>Takes forever to start>Idle 200 rpm too low>Smells like gas>Running rich as hell out the exhaust>Power brakes don't work at firstLooks like that full vacuum line redo I've been putting off is happening now, as soon as I finish replacing the rear brake cylinders and bleeding and flushing my off road toy today.
>>29017999Advance your base timing by 2-3 degrees.
saw a fully resto'd CC highboy at a local show today
>>29018274>>29018271Christ. Beautiful cars, otherwise spoiled by nigger-tier wheels.
>>29018275at least wheels are easily changed, even if the current owner has poor tastewhat wheels would you choose for the Pantera?
>>29008147>single planeMight be the problem, if there's too much volume in the plenum your fuel may be dropping out of suspension at low revs and giving an uneven mixture at the combustion chamber. You should use dual plane small volume manifolds if you're not racing. You want to aim for better intake charge velocity at low revs.
>>29017968SEXOOOOOO
>>29018286Probably the stock ones, tbf. Either that, or similar-ish ones in an inch larger diameter. Those Panteras really suit a big blocky wheel design.
>>29018286Bathurst Globes or Simmons B45s
>>29018275I was about to say
>>29018286>>29018359>>29018364deep dish basket weaves
>>29018570knuckle dragging nigger detected
>>29018612who doesn't appreciate bespoke 3 piece wheels? wtf?
>>29018617i certainly do
