In what YEAR do you estimate Mercedes will stop producing shitty interiors?>why did this happenwell, adjusted for inflation Mercedes are actually cheaper than before by a significant margin, especially the volume upper models like e and s class, but that's only in Europe and North America. I think in the Middle East, Asia and Africa there are zany tariffs and other fees that can tack on 50k+ to the price of these cars so the real price is much higher and presumably such customers are more concerned about a flashy badge and exterior than a classy interior which nobody poor will ever see anyways except to clean or service. pic related - 220k Maybach S-class interiorthey plum gave up they had really interesting seats with classy contrast piping and trim in the 90s and early 2000s and sort of stopped caring once the cars became oligarch-mobiles
>>29011227The people who buy Mercedes love these types of interiors. They're targeting footballers and wannabe footballers. Clearly it works, so they're not going to stop any time soon.
>>29011232I didn't ask that. I asked when.
>>29011235>I asked whenNever, because footballers and wannabe footballers outnumber you a hundred million to one. They're not going to get classier, they're just going to get louder.
>>29011227Never. Like you said about pricing, these cars are no longer 'luxury' but just 'premium'. They are more of a vanity brand than actually providing an experience that's a step up from the lower rung of the pyramid. The true luxury segment is near dead. No one is impressed when rappers are driving Bentleys, no one cares when some rich suburban kid drives a gwagon, when actual billionaires rarely drive. Women don't care if you drive a mercedes, they'd prefer if you can hail them a Waymo. Unless it's hypercar or a fucking private jet, no one cares about true luxury quality except for small segment of peeps.
>>29011240maybe true luxury will return someday 20-30 years later
when they go bankrupt which I think they are inching closer every year reflected by their sale numbers
>>29011232Its beautiful
>>29011327In 20-30 years private car ownership will be dead. You'll summon an autonomous soulless electric transport appliance to take you where you want to go and be thankful for it, since classic cars capable of manual driving will be illegal to use on public roads. This is the future we chose, there is no turning back.
>>29011232"Footballers" uh huh yeah I call them something else
>>29011405Basically correct. In the US though there's a long history of grandfathering every car in. Manual car driving won't be unheard of or illegal in 2060 but there will be few people still licensed for it.I suspect private car ownership will still largely be a thing in the suburbs and with children because people want their shit to stay in the car. It'll be increasingly popular in cities though.Having put in for a Tesla just for FSD the whole connection thing is definitely less relevant. If I'm mostly just punching in a destination and kicking back the rest of that shit barely matters.
>>29011227>In what YEAR do you estimate Mercedes will stop producing shitty interiors?2078, after a total buyout by Fuzhou Hongxing automotive, petrochemical & baby food industry corporation. But Xa-976sb-420g Musk will lobby president Rubio VII to block their import. They're built in New Old Baja New Mexico anyway.
>>29011462>after a total buyout by Fuzhou Hongxing automotiveAre you joking? China is 90% of the reason they make the interiors they do. China loves this shit.
My dad drives a GLA and the interior quality is the one good thing going for it
>reflections on every surface
>>29013806What, you ugly or something?
>>29011227I got to ride in a eqs. The interior was hilarious, I've seen AMCs with better build quality. There was cheap hard 90's toyota plastic everywhere but without the fit and finish. And the tilted mega screen looks way cheaper and shittier in real life than I thought it would. And to add insult, while messing with the cupholder cover it fucking BROKE and wouldn't stay open anymore.The other mercedes I semi regularly ride in is actually passable; the screen is up ahead and can be navigated via a track pad, the hard plastic is mostly out of sight, the wood is nice etc. ...But actually it's not passable because the a-pillar trim is falling down. Both sides. Apparently it's been to the dealer for it twice and it just keeps falling back down kek.
>>29013850the cupholder extender thingy in my kia is very annoying but its not flimsy the whole interior is just plastic except the actual shift lever even the steering wheel is urethane wrapped hell maybe I should get a cover for it I hate the stitching and the feel of the plasticthere's no natural materials and some of the exterior trim is cheap and feels barely on but nothing has broken off yetI think the EQS spent so much on batteries they cheaped out on the rest, complain what you will, nobody says the range was too short so they probably are spending 10-20k just on batteries per car
>>29013850>But actually it's not passable because the a-pillar trim is falling downis it one of the nog-built SUVs made in the deep south?
>>29013861It didn't feel flimsy, actually had some nice weight to it, but the plastic toggle mechanism inside just gave up.>>29013864GLE series.>Built in alabama
>>29014087>>Built in alabamafound the problem Germans realized they could build "german" cars for cheaper int he us by utilizing niggers who were not unionized (vs all european car plants being unionized labor even the ones made outside germany)but DAMN the quality took a nosedive
>>29014094Oh, and the dash pad doesn't line up with the metal grille piece embedded in it. It's very obviously wavy, like the dash alignment in a 70's AMC.
>>29014125this can’t be real
>>29014100The worst in mine is there's like some plastic trim attached to the trunk and its like barely attached and I could probably get it off with my fingers. It's not misaligned or anything it's just gimmicky cheap plastic for style where it doesn't need to be. I'm pretty sure my cuckover was made in the south too so I can't really complain. >>29014125Their wood trim looked so nice in the 90s and now it does not. Did u at least get the v8?
I like this ngl but i’d get the napa leather seats, and the textured metal on the center thingie
>>29014129pic related was just a crop of OP’s pic
>>29014130Piano black is an abomination. It looks good for about 30 seconds after being detailed, and then it looks terrible.
>>29014132well I just mean in general that style of wood trim is kinda shitty looking >>29014130yeah this looks ugly to me it's very cheap and shiny all over
>>29014151i haven’t lived with it, no idea >>29014153it’s a new car, with plastic still on some of the bits making it much more glossy than it would be otherwise it’s not my favourite, but i do like it
>>29014174>touchscreen steering controls
>>29014179i haven’t lived with no physical buttons life but who knows it might not be so bad remember when all the blackberry boomers thought the iphone’s lack of buttons was the end of the world and would never work?
>>29014189most of the time its still real buttons behind the black plastic cover. cant tell for merc, but most of the time people yapp about "touch steering controlls" they never sat in the car and and are literally spewing false facts out of ignorance
>>29014189>>29016601afaik the new 2027+ cars have physical steering controls back but it probably varies by modelI was reading a CLA review and it said the production model will have physical steering buttons, but the pre-production model they tested still had the old touch steering and it was too easy to accidentally activate with your forearm or wrist while steering. I have physical buttons on my steering wheel and I don't get why there aren't more. All buttons should live on the steering wheel as its where your hands are. I think the bigger issue is touch-buttons speak to tone-deaf manufacturers producing what is cheap, not what is functional.
>>29016606>I think the bigger issue is touch-buttons speak to tone-deaf manufacturers producing what is cheap, not what is functional.the large black surface may look ugly and is cheap, but it was indeed more functional of a design. Just imagine the amount of grime that collects between a dozen spaced buttons, impossible to fully clean like a notebook keyboard. especially on a pool car, rental or second hand
>>29011232No, I fucking don't. I refuse to buy any newer than 2019 for that matter, I want fucking analogue gauges not that stupid touchscreen everywhere.
>>29016712>2019>analogue gaugesanalogue gagues died out in the 90s with canbus
American builds mercs are so shit
>>29014189touchscreen phones work because you can look right at themcapacitive touch buttons or screens in a car take your attention away from the road in a way that a physical control does not.
>>29011232I feel the only Merc drivers in current year are footballers who love touchshit and geezers who bought their W140 new and put 5+ million kilometres on it. Probably the biggest fall off of any German brand. VAG at least has the Piech Game of Thrones shitshow to blame, Mercedes has no excuse.
>>29016607they could make buttons in colorsnobody is stopping them
>>29014151Cheaper to make and it doesn't hold up nearly as well as the old lacquered woods did. A lot of these are looking clapped at just a few years old too now
>>29017448You're honestly better off picking up a scuff pad and trying for an even distribution of fine scratches. At least those won't show fingerprints immediately.
>>29017448This is a premium feature kek
>>29017448Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't piano black (the one used in actual pianos) also lacquered wood? Using plastic piano black in a flagship luxury car is ridiculous.
>>29017446rgb buttons in cars are way overdue. the current trend with white iluminated buttons and rgb interior lighting is eye cancer, the early 2000s with red / amber combined with incadecent were the last soulfull cars
>>29017516piano black is shellac dyed black and the actual application of such a finish takes weeks and dozens of coats. Real piano black as a finish has died out.these car trim pieces are colored acrylic and cost like 30$ to replace for genuine parts. some people apply ceramic coating making them scratch resistant
>>29017448>every modern car has gloss black plastic>perforated pleather instead of real leather>hard plastics everywhere else>buttons, if they exist at all, are capacitive>huge screens for both infotainment and gauge clusters that will be non-functional in 5 yearsI fucking hate modern interior design.
>>29017847>that will be non-functional in 5 yearsHoly fud
>>29017875The average lifespan of an OLED display is 5 years.
>>29017886That was the lifespan of panels produced ~5 years ago, retard kun. The majority of screenshit is still lcd too
>>29017886Also, panels age with on time and most cars are lucky to reach 5000 engine hours equal to like 300k miles
Audi > BMW > Merc
