It used to be something simple and pure.
>>29011525The whole appeal of the civic was being cheap
Personally I think it's ugly as fuck, every generation of Civic starting with the space egg is varying degrees of ugly.
>>29011536the original type Rs weren't cheap
It's the most expensive shitbox, and it's only marginally better than all the other shitboxes
My freind and arguably the best mechanic in the area is finally selling his. Spent more time broke than driving, down entire year from a fucked ECM
>>29011525Why the type r used to be good:-cheap-lightweight-simple, na, easy to work on. -high revving na 4 banger engine-honda reliability meant something.-great driver feedback-parts were plenty and easy to getNow:-50 grand starting price-3200lbs-turbo spaghetti and mess of hoses and wiring-na enjoyment gone, 7000rpm cucked redline-no longer "honda reliable". Lumped in with the rest of the turbo 4 banger crowd. -wide ass front tires needed to put the power down because its not got to drag 3200lbs behind the front wheels. Meaning you lose a ton of steering feel. -parts are now more scarce due to these costing 50 grand. Tldr: honda just made a lap time machine. Not a driving enjoyment machine for enthusiasts. a lap time producer. Fuck every car that has sacrificed driving enjoyment for lap times.
>>29011540Thi, people have this idea that DC Integras and Prelides were cheap or something, hondas were more expensive back than compared to now, even on the pedestrian stuff a civic or accord are such nice cars for the money
>>29011658The type r in 1997 was 35k adjusting for inflation. Its 50 grand now. And yes im fully aware youre getting "more" for you money, but it is objectively significantly more expensive now.
>>29011525>6.5k redline turbo 4whats the point if it doesnt rev high, no different from a GTI or Hyundai N/Turbo modelonly the GR Corolla has an engine that's noticeably different
>>29011525Hondas shouldn't have turbos, every factory turbo'd Honda is an affront to John Honda
I hate that it comes standard with all the track bullshit. If someone wants to buy all the track bullshit, fine. But it should come standard with no aero and normal suspension and tires and then you can pay for the track pack if you want. Imagine if the only way you could get a V8 mustang was to buy the dark horse. That would be so stupid
>>29011525Poor wheel drive
>>29011685>The type r in 1997 was 35k adjusting for inflation.Where are you even getting that figure if the EK9 was only sold in Japan? I know its not a direct comparison, but the Integra Type R was literally the equivalent to a $50k car back then.
because it's not a non-ST Ford Fiesta
>>29011525We do?
>>29011688Emissions faggotry ruined Honda.
>>29011538it's this for me. everything else about the car is good or great but it's just so unforgivably ugly/stupid looking that i'd never buy one
>>29011525I just wish they made an Si without a sunroofLiterally the only reason I would want an R over an Si is the sunroof delete
>>29011864>>29011864just dont use it retard
>>29011654>honda just made a lap time machine. Not a driving enjoyment machine for enthusiasts. a lap time producer. Fuck every car that has sacrificed driving enjoyment for lap timesToyota literally made a car specifically with this in mind but /o/ has rejected it everytime due to internet hysteria and baseless assumptions
>>29011895>extra weight up high>reduces headroom>literal hole in the roof that can leak>still requires maintenance to clear the sunroof drains so they don't clog and let water back up into the interior Ew
>>29011948>not as much weight as your fat ass adds>no it doesn't>garagelet problem >garagelet problem again
>>29011956So it needs to be a garage queen to prevent the sunroof from leaking? kwab
>>29011960it's not gonna leak any faster than the weatherstripping on your windows dipshit. And if you care at all about your cars, it should be garaged when not in use
>>29011947>Toyota literally made a car specifically with this in mind but /o/ has rejected it everytime due to internet hysteria and baseless assumptionsI'm a huge fan of the gr yaris/corolla. I almost bought one instead of my mach e but I needed the gas savings. I would take one of these any day of the week over a type R. Seething poorfags complaining about sour grapes and all that.
I purchased an Integra Type R new in 1998 for somewhere around $25 or $26,000 ( I still have the window sticker I can check when I get home). I plugged that number into an inflation calculator and it's now $51-$53,000
>>29011956>resorts to insults and "lol no" with no supporting evidence I accept your concession. Fuck sunroofs.
>>29011964it's a lot easier for water to seep in from the top of your car than the sides
>>29011956The type r has 2 extra inches of headroom vs the SII thought it would be more, but if you're close to maxing it every bit counts
>>29011972All the inflation over the last 6 years is fake and gay, what you paid in 98 has no reliable relationship to your money today thanks to (((them))).
>>29011981wrong
If Honda made a rwd civic for just a couple of years they would rake in gajillions of money and dominate the street race scene.
>>29011531and far more important… *fun
>>29011990what's so hard to understand?
>>29011996
>>29011997yes, that would be the part of the body that's designed to let water roll over the door instead of having a path to seep in through the sealsit's solid metal and the door sits underneath it when closedhave you ever looked at or thought about the way a car is constructed before?
>>29011895It's the fact it's a literal hole in your roof that can leak water and needs its own maintenance Not to mention the weight
it insists upon itself
Who cares if /o/ hates it. I enjoy it's obscene looks and I get people turning their heads at it. If they're negative, I don't give a fuck.
superior and cheaper
>>29011993dumbass frogposter
>>29011993they’re making a new Prelude this would have been an ideal candidate BUT i think the civic should remain true to it’s roots
>>29012071idk if i understand this memei was getting the most pussy in my mk1 cabriolet all the smol peen copers will tell you is gay actually come to think of it i may have got laid more when i was bicycle only
>>29012080
>>29011761it turns out you can adjust yen values to be dollar values after inflation
>>29012085not a meme nigga this is my lifebut lowkey got the most pussy when i drove a civic kek
>$50,000 for fwd honda junklmfao
>>29012001there is weatherstripping there and it's prone to leaks retard
>>29011761>what are currency conversion ratessummer fatigue is already setting in
>>29011969>i wanted to save on fuel so I got an EV with the aerodynamics of a toaster ovenThis has to be some of the worst bait I've seen in years. Please do better, this is a shameful display.
>>29011525it's the new golf.mc donalds front, live axle rear yet expensive.it also doesn't look good.
It's a hideous gookbox meant for weeblet subhumans.
>>29011641>down entire year from a fucked ECM>best mechanic I knowYea checks you, little wrenchlet ricer
>>29011525I feel embarrassed for the people who drive them.
>>29012100why are you posting it here then…
>>29012349initial D was right about civic drivers
>>29012248>so I got an EV with the aerodynamics of a toaster ovenNigga what? it has a cd of 0.285. My frs is 0.27. Even if it didn't, who cares, it costs me like a dollar per 100km in electricity. Since January I've put like 33000km on it and it's cost me $248 in electricity.
>>29011947I do not reject it because of thatI respect Toyota for being able to squeeze 100hp per cylinder out of its engineI just believe the ceiling for its power has been reached and it's not enough to outdo its competitors and I'm still skeptical of the longevity of a 3 cylinder with enough stress being put through it to get 300hp per cylindernow if Toyota puts their shiny new 4cyl into it I'll get one within the hour (well not really, I don't like buying first model years) unless VW puts the DAZA in the Golf R firstunfortunately either are equally unlikely
It’s front wheel drive.What else is there to say? FWD - it’s dead to me.
>>29011531Do people actually miss small and light 3door hatches? They are engaging cars to drive, sure, but thats the exact reason people ditched them as soon as they could.
>>29013145Pipe down, fatty.
>>29012085The meme is, he bought an ugly car no one likes and is trying desperately to look cool with it
>>29011525The only thing it has going for itself is the manual transmission, which I thought /o/ would've been all over. At a ~$50k price range, the CTR gets slapped by everything from a Mustang GT, CT4-V (non-BW), M240i, Giulia Veloce, G70 3.3T, S3 and so on. Whether it's two doors, four doors, American, Euro and so on, there's a better choice out there than the CTR unless you're buying a used one for a bargain (doubt) or unless you just HAVE to have a manual (in which case, buy an actual old JDM Type R for less).Considering how fat they've made it without increasing the power at all, and how much time has passed, you'd think the Civic SI would be a 300HP model priced reasonably in the $30-35k range (like the WRX is now) instead of the SI making the same power it did 20 years ago
I would rather buy a Mazda3 Turbo.
>>290135481. It's also more reliable and easier to maintain than every single one of those cars.2. They are very close on a track despite AWD and the power difference.3. The Si would be far more expensive to maintain with fat tires and flaring which is needed to (barely) put down 315 to the front wheels.
They just threw a big turbo on an economy engine and called it a day. If it was a lightweight high revving NA 4 banger everyone would have loved it. Doesn’t help that it sounds like a vacuum cleaner either.
>>29011525All the fake vents maccas and egg shape, fake engine noisemaker too fucking ricer
>>29011525its a type r why does it have to have seating for bringing the family? those rear doors are heinous
>>29012071someone made this lmbo
>>29011947GR corolla is probably more fun and really is a special car, but at it's price point it doesn't even compare to its competitors like a Type R or Golf R; I would say it barely competes with a VA STI. It is a tier below in almost all other categories, but what killed it for me was how shit of a daily it is.
>>29011525I really want the FL5 Type R, but having seen other people's cars in person around town, I can confidently say the Championship White is the best choice. The blue and grey variants look really lame in real life.
>>29018983As someone who generally despises white on vehicles I unfortunately agree. It looks best with white.
>>29017002I have been fine with you going your tirades about mcdonalds and plastic engines and ricers but I draw the line at criticizing EGG
