I get not liking electric cars on the market right now since a lot of them are locked down spyware, but hating EVs inherently just seems strange to meDo you really like the idea of you and your children just paying a lifelong subscription to big oil?
Yeah I'd rather pay a lifelong subscription to big coal, like your mom.
>he thinks he is not being spied on when flock cameras are getting more popular and he carries a cell phone everywhereIt's like how people with the dirtiest homes force you to take off your shoes before entering.
>>29015819When we'll be able to retrofit old cars with electric drivelines, that's when we will have true freedom. Old chassis, electric driveline. Minimum surveillance, maximum control.
>>29015842You can already, you're just a wrenchlet.
>>29015852Yeah bro let me go fetch my 150Wh electric motor and my 60kWh battery in my backyard and mount it on my old shitbox. Of course, that is after removing the entire engine. This is of course skills that everyone capable of using a wrench in possession of!
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>>29015855I'm sure Ashton did this all on his own, with no financial or mechanical help from his parents!!
Doesn't that new Slate truck not even connect to the internet
>>29015858>no true scotsman fallacy excuses you from being a broke wrenchletgoy
>>29015865NTA but literally every single child prodigy is the parents trying to railroad their kid to live vicariously, it's the same with child beauty pagaents
>>29015865How many ICE cars have you converted to full electric drivelines?
>>29015819The internal combustion engine is tride and true. Very few things in this world are as reliable as an ICE. You can start it up in the cold, you can start it up in insane heat, you can go anywhere you want to without fear of softwares locking you out. The sounds breathes life into a lifeless world. Cheaper to repair, easier to repair, less likely to be totaled when damaged, farther range, already have 100 year old existing infrastructure to fill up at a plethora of gas stations no matter how rural or inner urban you are. ICE is Nice. It's far superior to EVs for the real world. To never be tethered to a fad is true freedom. Pre 2014 cars are peak because the car isn't snitching on you. The skateboard is fragileThe subscription based shit is dystopianThe battery technology is prematureThe features from EVs? A gimmick.To be reliant on charging stations waiting hour(s) for a full charge just to have pathetic range. The lack of repair rights alloted also means you won't have the ability to fix something on the side of the road during a long road trip (which EVs cannot do)I will firmly be against EVs, they are rolling washing machines and are inheritly disposable and forgettable. Akin to the Chinese principal of relying on cheap throwaway shit. People who are actually in the know, know why the wise always picks ICE
The problem is that EVfags want to ban ICE.Duh. They have what they want, and somehow it’s not enough.
>>29015869None, and I don't have to. Just pointing out that your argument is retarded.
>>29015883>Very few things in this world are as reliable as an ICE.One of those things is the electric motor. >You can start it up in the cold, you can start it up in insane heatElectric drivelines start up even easier in extreme conditions>you can go anywhere you want to without fear of softwares locking you out.You're as vulnerable to a functional infrastructure with ICE as an EV. Only that you can also charge your EV at home with solar power energy so you're actually more free than with ICE car.>The sounds breathes life into a lifeless world. Pretty sure that sound is pollution being released into the atmosphere.>Cheaper to repair, easier to repair, less likely to be totaled when damaged, farther range, already have 100 year old existing infrastructure to fill up at a plethora of gas stations no matter how rural or inner urban you are. All fair points. You just forgot, "more likely to be needed to repair">The subscription based shit is dystopianNot exclusive or inherent to an electric driveline>The battery technology is prematureNo, it's just evolving very quickly. But it will never be as energy dense as burning fossil fuel into the atmosphere. >The features from EVs? A gimmick.Such as vehicle to grid? Not at all.>To be reliant on charging stations waiting hour(s) for a full charge just to have pathetic range. You charge at home, therefore you're way less reliant on public infrastructure than with ICE cars.>The lack of repair rights alloted also means you won't have the ability to fix something on the side of the road during a long road trip (which EVs cannot do)This is fair but as I said, electric cars are way less likely to crash down on the side of the road as your ICE car, and modern ICE cars are so convoluted with hybrid solutions, nobody is fixing shit next to the highway on their own>I will firmly be against EVs,That's very ignorant. There are a lot of positive aspects of EVs that you are ignoring.
>>29015888Truke. If EV fags weren't all or nothing cerebral narcissists I wouldn't give a fuck what they drive. However when they start steppin up like this faggot >>29015899And actively attempt to undermine and eliminate the tride and true mode of transportation that's when I sabotage EVs (its super easy btw, no I won't tell my secrets)
>>29015888I don't want a ban on ICE and I'm EV fag. The reason is because ICE is needed competition for the development of EV cars.
>>29015905Oh yeah you're a pernicious little shit, two faced covert typa nigga. Don't worry, you'll get what's coming to ya
>>29015907>>29015903What mental illness is this?
>>29015903>>29015883>engine is tride and true.It's "tried and true", dear ESL bro
>>29015914I think he’s trolling and presenting a strawman opinion, typing like an absolute retard on purpose. He wrote that phrase twice in the thread, seems intentional.Very strange behavior.
>>29015819I don't hate them inherently. They're not hobbyist vehicles though, they're appliances, so they won't get much love on a hobbyist forum.
>>29015819>hating EVstheyre not 'EV's, they're battery cars. The EV part is to totally irrelevant, the being powered only by batteries is the only thing that matters.
>>29015819Big Electricity aint much better
>>29015913>Being too real for the bug people to fathomMany such cases>>29015914Oh ya well if I'm ESL and smart enough not to buy the EV scam what does that make you retardkun?>>29015917Pathologizing anons on a basket weaving website?Very strange behavior. Arm chair shrink.
>>29015819>but hating EVs inherently just seems strange to meIt's not really matured enough to be convenient to live with in my case. I'm also very cost conscious and cheap EVs are bricks, compared to a cheap ICE vehicle where I know how to extract 20 more years out of it.If EV charge points were as ubiquitous as gas stations, I'd be fine with owning one, but they're not.
>>29015932This. big electricity is much worse. Right now is the bait period. Once enough faggots have rejected other traditional energy sources and put themselves on a monopoly of electricity, then comes the switch.... soaring prices and pther fees, grid failures, blaming it on data centers, dead cars during minor gri d emergencies. You wait, it gets much much worse
>>29015932>Big Electricity aint much betterI remember Texas. Holy hell is it expensive.
>>29015957I jack off to the girls on Judge Judy
>>29015956Based knower
>>29015956combined with the big push for solar, it's an infrastructure nightmare >everyone gets home and plugs in their car>just as power generation ebbs for the night
>>29015888>>29015903Modern ICE is gay anyway and should be banned.
>>29015819If I had to buy a new car rn I’d probably buy a Tesla, they’re good cars, but I just enjoy driving older diesel shitboxes
>>29015956you can put solar panels on your roof and charge an electric car with no ones permission, at a cost of roughly $0.00 per kwh, even during a blackout.do you know what ceases to function during a blackout? gas stations.
>>29016023A solar setup and home charger that can charge a BEV is the price of a new car and has to be redone every decade.We’re talking $20-35k even after the 30% tax credit that taxpayers are forced to pay.
>>29015854>Yeah bro let me go fetch my 150Wh electric motorThey're a bit cheaper than equivalent crate engines new. You could also get one from a scrapeyard or salvage vehicle for dirt cheap, and they're pretty bullet proof so you don't have to worry about wear.>and my 60kWh batteryCould also get this from a salvage auction car, though it'd already be degraded and would need to be partially disassembled and reconfigured to fit a different form factor. It's actually not that hard to get individual cells and solder them up, it's tedious work but not difficult, and you could make a 60kWh pack for <$10k. And if that's too daunting there's also pre-made modules, much less work but a bit more expensive.
