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Had a friend try to tell me that a porsche with McDonald’s has superior suspension to my bones. Only thing I can find that’s better is PDCC.
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>>29017330
>electronic sway bar
Yea that shit is riced the fuck out
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>putting an electronic on essentially a toob of metal
Yeah, that's a good marketing gimmick to sell to suckers
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>>29017338
supposedly it hydraulically disconnects the swaybars when going straight and reconnects them when going around bends.
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>>29017358
but why?
I would think it's so you can change the stiffness on the fly
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>>29017366
so that you get less interference between the wheels when going over bumps with one wheel (downside to swaybars). I think also dynamically controlling stiffness/load balance.
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>>29017371
So, it adds complexity and weight for NVH.
Got it.
That’s gay as hell.
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>>29017330
every single car this gets put on will be autoamtic
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>>29017403
So when you add a swaybar you get less body roll as an advantage but the disadvantage is your previously independent suspension now becomes interdependent (bump on one wheel transmits to the opposite wheel, meaning less good suspension performance). This hydraulic system supposedly gives you the benefit of a traditional swaybar without the drawbacks.
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>>29017405
I’m quite aware. That’s exactly how I understood it.
I stand by what I said. Adding cost, weight, and complexity to dampen straight line vibrations is idiotic. I feel like it would make turn in and transitions between turns feel weird as it connects and disconnects. What happens when it fails?
All this to “reduce straight line vibrations?” Mega gay.
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>>29017413
It's not a binary connect/disconnect, its varying levels of stiffness based on what pressure the system is at
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>>29017529
Don't care. Driving in a straight line doesn't bother me at all. I've upgraded to stronger sway bars on most of my cars, I do not care.
This is actual shit for old ladies or sensitive homos, it's looking for a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.
K.I.S.S.
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I had my 4runner's sway bar out for a bit, wheelin feels a lot better, too floppy cornering on the street though. I guess toyota's newest offroady vehicles all come with the option for electronic sway bar disconnect: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C-f1T3JOZ7N/

couple extra inches of flex, not bad for the small to medium stuff you can do with IFS. I hope someone finds a way to retrofit the system into older vehicles, the only electric disconnect on the market right now controls the end links, not the bar's center.
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>>29017632
Yeah, off-roading you want to disconnect the sway bars. But this appears to be for straight line highway stuff in German executive cars.
Quite frankly, I’m not sure if disconnecting the sway bars in my dbl-bones car would actually make it feel better over bumps in a straight line. I feel like it would bounce around on uneven bumps but I’m not going to try. And I don’t care, my 30 yo dbl-wishbone hard sway bars shitbox feels more planted over uneven bumps than new luxury SUVs.
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>>29017745
NVH was a mistake.
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We aren't your friends buddy
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>>29017787
I’m not your buddy, guy.
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>>29017330
Disconnecting a sway bar improves ride quality drastically.
But then you don't have a bar when turning.
So the electronic ones give you both.
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KDSS does work
>>29017632
5y no sway bars in my GX470 and no problems. Wife drives it but the guy at the Toyota dealer refused to even drive it around the lot, pussy
>>29017745
You actually want just front removed for max articulation overall.
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>>29018483
no sway bar is no big deal until there's a highway-speed avoidance event, plus I have a couple inches of suspension lift to make it even floppier. A switched electric decoupler would be ideal.



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