I don't understand what what this retard was trying to do but I don't have time for bullshit
Just some guy trying to be the road janny because "nuh-uh, you can't cut in line, *I* know the rules!" While simultaneously reducing the throughput of the road and trying to start a fight.
So many retards don't understand how a zipper merge works
>>29019314his thought process probably went like this:>NOOOOOOOOOOO HOW DARE YOU PASS ME WHEN THE SIGN TELLS YOU TO MERGE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEalso what >>29019337 said
>>29019314I do this all the time.
retards do not understand what zipper merge isstupid sheep trying to save face
>>29019337>>29019415zipper merging will never be viable in real life. it only works on paper in a perfect world. this is an irrefutable fact. Just get over when you can and stop trying to a leet smarty pants driver your not cool
>>29019314bunch of lane switching insectoid NPCs without insurance in their gay ass auto only carmax cars
>>29019447drown in boulders you subhuman
>>29019314You're a piece of shit.
>>29019455They both are. Eat a dick, special boy.
>>29019337I've given up arguing for it. It's simply incompatible with human nature. It's like watching a rolling varient of the Prisoner's Dilemma occur in real time.We get the society we deserve.
>>29019468Wrong, I get the society you deserve.
>>29019455If you leave room to pass, don't be surprised if people take the opportunity to use it
>>29019477You don't pass into a fucking lane that's about to end...
>>29019481all lanes come to an end
>>29019447seems to work just fine where i live. you occasionally get an uptight retard that gets assblasted and ruins a perfectly fine zipper merge but otherwise people just zipper merge no problem
>>29019337>>29019415>>29019447>>29019453>>29019502Imagine if you were in a cafeteria and there were two lines to get food, but the one you were in closed.They didn't just close it suddenly, they put signs out that your line was closing in 10 minutes, then 5 minutes, and finally 1 minute. Most everyone in front of you moved over as the time ticked down and a spot was open, but you stayed in place knowing your line was going to close and you would have to move over anyways.Then when your line finally closed and you had no choice but to move over, you try forcing your way in and get angry when the people who moved over earlier don't want to let you cut. You act like it's some huge societal problem and start screaming and crying and stamping your feet that you did the right thing and it's everyone else who was wrong.That's what you look like when you zipper merge.
>>29019739In this scenario you have to wait longer to get your food. When someone merges in front of you you don't actually lose any time unless you're acting like a retard.
>>29019739no one with the wherewithal to operate a web browser can be this retarded. 0/10 bait
>>29019447It works in white countries
>>29019739Imagine you got so assblasted about zipper merging that you made a fantastically retarded analogy attempting to argue how bad zipper merging is.Oh wait you don't need to because you just did
>zipper lane
>>29019750Yes you do. A road lane has a maximum stable throughput of one car every two seconds. Every car that inserts itself in front of you consumes one of those two-second slots, so you pass the obstruction two seconds later.When an entire closing lane waits until the barricade and then demands alternating admission, the continuing lane is forced to surrender every other slot. Zipper-merge advocates pretend two streams at normal following distance can magically become one stream at half that distance without anyone braking, hesitating, or opening a gap.They can't. Early merging gives drivers a mile to establish the required spacing smoothly. Zipper merging postpones the exact same adjustment until everyone has only a few metres to negotiate it under pressure.At best, the bottleneck still clears one car every two seconds and nobody gets there faster. In reality, the last-second braking and conflict make the discharge less stable and probably slower. All the zipper merge accomplishes is rewarding the people who drove past the queue and forced themselves in at the front.
>>29019876>All the zipper merge accomplishes is rewarding the people who drove past the queue and forced themselves in at the front.you forget it eases congestion in situations where cars would've otherwise blocked an intersection somewhere behind them can simply just wait in the lane merging into the other instead
>>29019884That's true, but that's a city street issue, not a big highway thing. People do tend to zipper on crowded city streets. What you're seeing in the video in OP is not a case where zipper merging is justified.
>>29019892IMO this is the exact case for the zipper merge.Logically, I know zipper merge works in theory, but I merge early. Zipper is not safe in practice IMO unless everyone is taught to do so at a young age and will allow others to merge.
>>29019739>cafeteriabrown hands typed this
>>29019984There is nothing racial about the word "cafeteria." You're reaching really deep just to find things to complain about, apparently you have nothing to say of your own.
>>29019991thank you for pointing it out.in America, the only people who use "cafeterias" are high school students, university students, prisoners, and workers who are too poor to go elsewhere.A better analogy would be a checkout line at a grocery store.But alas, try again thirdie.
>>29019993You're digging really deep. You just off-topic replied to a post saying "cafeteria" is a racially-loaded word because you wanted to massage your ego...
>>29019876>oh fuck oh god oh fuck i'm going to be two heckin seconds late oh god oh fuckyou're retarded
>>29019991there are MULTIPLE browns in this very image! That man is wearing a TURBAN!!!!!
>>29019876ignore the communists, they know you're right
>>29019876>nobody gets there faster>probably slowerIf only nearly every state in the country could found a traffic research organization to study this very phenomenon, and then come up with a technique to maximize throughput. And then, if they all seem to align, maybe they could even give it a name that uses a catchy metaphor as a name.Alas, even then, someone would just say that the idea was bullshit, and people should just go back to the way we've always done it.
>>29019876Early merging causes a backup of cars riding bumper to bumper and making complete stops to let cars in to merge. If they simply stayed in their lanes and had appropriate following distances then bith lanes could zipper merge. I have seen it with my own eyes when we has 3 bridges being done on the highway. The state made everyone learn how zipper merge by paining a solid white line miles ahead of the merge and posting signs saying to stay in your lane to keep early merging retards from all piling into one lane and then had a dashed section at the merge with a sign stating to take turns.
>>29020308>a sign stating to take turns.i think this alone would improve things a lot. especially if it had alternating flashing lights to draw attention to it, kinda like signs that warn of a red light right past a crest that'd otherwise not be seen till the last second. it won't stop the most assblasted drivers from fucking up a good zipper but it'd make a lot more people understanding of it
There will always be some asshole who thinks that starting a fight is better than letting someone merge. America has more registered guns than people, zipper merge isn't worth it here.https://youtube.com/watch/ttwex_QppWk
>>29020837What's the deal with embedding shorts here? I tried "embed" and "watch."
>>29019314>My gay Puerto Rican boyfriend took a dick pill and it ONLY lasts 4 hours. MOVE OVER -- I DON'T HAVE TIME FOR THIS SHIT!!!!
>>29019750>When someone merges in front of you you don't actually lose any timeHuh. Why don't we make all roads one-lane with zipper merge entries? Nobody would lose any time.
>>29021097Because you can fit twice as many cars in two lanes, and if you let people merge properly nobody has to slow down at the merge point?
>>29019884This is the only reason to zipper merge and it doesn't really apply to the interstate with miles between off-ramps.The maximum flow rate through a one-lane roadway will be achieved when everyone is up to speed and properly spaced. In a proper zipper merge part of the one-lane section (the very beginning, the first few feet) is moved through at a speed and spacing other than optimal, because people have to slow down to make space and slow down to merge, then accelerate again. That's why as soon as you're through the merge it often feels like the road is mostly empty again and you can do 70 in a marked-for-50 construction zone.Optimal flow through the one-lane constriction would be achieved by getting up to good speed and spacing prior to the constriction. But then one guy drives down the closing lane and dives in resulting in an accordion all down the line.
>>29021103Why don't we just fit more cars in one lane by letting them merge properly? Nobody would even have to slow down.
>>29020035This. Fuckem
>>29021109If everyone camps in one lane you end up with a line of cars twice as long and it ends up blocking intersections
>>29021114But if everybody merges properly nobody has to slow down, so how does it block lanes?
>>29021123Are you arguing for or against zipper merging?
>>29019472>I get the society you deserve.I want this on a t-shirt.
The math on road capacity is brutal. If the road is mostly empty it doesn't matter if people wait until the end or go early, nobody will have to slow down. If the road is full everybody will be crawling no matter what. In the end the only difference is how long the line is stretching down the road, and how angry people get. That's why zipper merge is recommended.
>>29019481Show me where it says this in any driver's handbook. I'll wait.
>>29019447funfact:In White country like Poland zipper merging works perfectly fine 99 out of 100 times.Also when you enter a shop, like drug store or bank with multiple cash registers open, the people stand in one queue. We are not told to, we just do it by ourselves. When any shop assistant is ready for next customer, the first person fron queue comes up. This way we avoid a problem when there are multiple queues and one is faster than another.
