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Are hydrogen engines the next big thing?
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They seem interesting. Haven't checked how they compare to normal ICE but on paper it looks clever.
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>>29019824
Not for normal consumer cars. They'll most likely stay BEVs as gasoline/diesel gets slowly phased out. We'll probably see hydrogen more on heavy or weight sensitive vehicles, like trucks, trains and aeroplanes.
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>>29019824
>bro just roll around with a 2500psi tank of compressed hydrogen on public streets with niggers
You're out of your mind dumbass little wrenchlet cyber-ricer.
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>>29019824
Hydrogen combustion is less efficient than hydrogen fuel cell but it doesn't matter because the core problem of hydrogen is the energy required to split hydrogen out of water. We're going to need nuclear fission or fusion or a shit load of solar cells and wind farms or all of the combined to fuel an economy powered by hydrogen
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Also I forgot to mention the absolute shit power density of hydrogen, we're going to need a lot of fuckhuge tanks for hydrogen fuel
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>>29019865
> Hydrogen combustion is less efficient than hydrogen fuel cell but it doesn't matter because the core problem of hydrogen is the energy required to split hydrogen out of water.
Most is actually made from taking the carbon out of natural gas at ~1,000C driven by a natural gas flame. Blue and turquoise in picrel. Doesn’t seem efficient at all to me but I haven’t looked into it enough to be confident yet.
Why do alt-fuel weirdos always try to ignore where their electricity or alt-fuel comes from, man? Very disingenuous of them.
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>>29019874
It still wastes power to process that natural gas into hydrogen, we really need a clean way to produce bulk power. It was supposed to be fusion
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>>29019824
What makes you think something as inefficient as hydrogen will become a big thing?
They attempted to push this novelty into children's minds, in the 2000s, claiming it will be the future – I'm pushing 40 and I still haven't seen much regarding the hydrogen fuel infrastructure.
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>>29019877
Unfortunately, fusion isn’t happening either in our lifetimes. If you factor in the energy used by the laser array in humanity’s best fusion attempt, it’s less than 2% efficient lol.
I’m not even joking, they ignore the biggest energy cost on the news. 1-2%
I like fission and hydroelectric + gas cars, personally.
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>>29019882
The target decade for commercialization of nuclear fusion is supposed to be the 2040s.
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>>29019883
The target date for me banging 500 different women is 2030.
Similar likelihoods.
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>>29019885
Are you planning on moving to a country where prostitution is legal?
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hydrogen doesnt "burn very fast" like petrol it fucking explodes
an explosion hitting the top of a piston is really really bad for the engine
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>>29019824
Sounds like more liberal propaganda, no thanks
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>>29019920
What do you think happens inside the combustion chamber, anon?
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>>29019936
keyword being combustion
ie not explosion
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>Lust provoking image
>Irrelevant time wasting question
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>>29019883
>fusion is just 2 decades away trust the process bro!
They've been saying that since the 80s
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>>29019874
Burning CNG to crack CNG.
Yep, it's a big fucking grift.

Just cut to the chase and use propane.
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>>29019936
oh the humanity!
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>>29019936
>What do you think happens inside the combustion chamber, anon?
Combustion. It's conflagration, not an explosion.
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>>29019972
>conflagration
I miss chilling in the conflag station and shitposting on /o/ or playing emulators on my phone.
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hydrogen has a pretty low energy density and tanks to store hydrogen are expensive

also much like evs boomers will never buy them because >MUH FIRES (ignoring thta ICE cars catch fire and explode in crashes all the time too)
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>>29019824
Hydrogen engines are the oldest thing.

t, hydrogen is in the oil
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It's hard to overstate just how much of a pain in the ass it is to store hydrogen gas.
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>>29019836
Trucks are also going battery electric, hydrogen simply isn't price competitive and the electric charging infrastructure is far more advances and expanding whereas hydrogen is actively shrinking. Don't see why trains should be different since they're already electrified.
Aeroplanes are going to stick to liquid hydrocarbons. Hydrogen has terrible energy per volume and you need a lot of extra mass for the pressure tank.
It might work for ships but that will remain to be seen.
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>>29019972
Hydrogen doesn't explode either. Even the famous Hindenburg slowly burned to the ground.
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>>29020339
>Hydrogen doesn't explode
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>>29019856
>living in an area with bl*cks
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>>29020074
this, even without boomer psyops about it exploding (as if normal gasoline doesnt) if its not a specialty glass lined tank n sheeit all your hydrogen just fucking leaves
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>>29021084
Gasoline doesnt explode, retard
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>>29020339
Put your car battery on a charger then light a match by the vent.
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The only way hydrogen could have taken off is if gasoline was banned. It is just worse at everything. Even EVs had a niche they could fill. Hydrogen is just worse gas.



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