How old were you when you realized that car enthusiasts are the biggest enemy of car enthusiasts?>Don't buy new, discouraging cool new cars being built>Eat up all the cool used car inventory, often owning more than one at a time>Never take care of them>Muh mods! (Aftermarket downpipe without a tune, cut springs, chinese blowoff valve)>8% 72 month loan for massive amountFuck car enthusiasts, and fuck (YOU)
>>29020361>>Don't buy new, discouraging cool new cars being builtBut manufacturers used to make cool cars, otherwise we wouldn't have older cars that we think are cool. And obviously people bought them because we have them. But they stopped making them anyway.
If someone want to mods cars but are incapable of having an autistic level of knowledge about what you are doing I don't even want to talk to them.>Meet a group of small bore riders (scooters, groms, etc.)>We get to talking about our stuff>"So who built your engine for you"?>...I did.>They all look in amazmentWhat's the point of getting into the fucking hobby if you have someone else do it for you?
>>29020368That example might be extremely frustrating because the Grom is a new engine with tons of documentation, parts availability, and it's small,portable, and relatively easy to work on.
>>29020364>Nissan Z has entered the chatYoure just broke and a blight on this hobby
>>29020371And mine is a 2 stroke lol. People are easy to impress.
>>29020361Low quality bait
>>29020361the box doesn't even bother me, what gets me is the T-handle stuck through the sway bar, like do you really disconnect your sway bar so often you'd need a T-handle instead of a bolt and nut, and furthermore the end link would drag on the pavement if you didn't unbolt that as well, so you might as well leave the links hanging off the sway bar if you remove it, meaning the T-handle is in the joint you're least likely to disconnect.
>>29020383>Just assume its a permanent mod>Not noting the other actual issue hereI hate car enthusiasts so much its unreal
I think if you arent modding your can then your enthusiast level is pretty low
>>29020409Youre just jealous you cant create builds like me
The situation is dire, but nobody owes you their car.>Don't buy new, discouraging cool new cars being built"Cool new cars?" Huh? You think new cars are cool but are bitching about the used market?
>>29020361>mcdonald’s struts>solid rear axle>racing slicks, racing gas tank, retarded swaybar setuppottery
>>29020445>>29020383Notice how these two dont post their cars? This implies they are busriders / 4 cylinder owners.
>>29020364>Car company tries making a cool wcar>Nuh uh I won't ever ever ever buy that because it doesn't have the ass umiscratch feature and weighs more than 5oz>Car company returns to making to commuter cars exclusively
>>29020364Cope seethe dilate
>>29020445>solid rear axlelol
>>29020474next excuse?
>>29020445dumb nigger be quiet soon.
>>29020361>Never take care of them>Muh mods! (Aftermarket downpipe without a tune, cut springs, chinese blowoff valve)So true, car enthusiast larpers will be like aww man why's there no clean g coupes anywhere in the future, meanwhile they wanted one to cut the exhaust apart and blow the motherfucker up in an intersection takeover.
>>29020624>Used (5 years? Minimum 3.) 4 cylinder sedanShowed me!(I actually really love these cars but you better have the lsd)
>Don't buy new, discouraging cool new cars being builtyeah I saved like $10000 fucking dollars buying used for $25k with less than 25k miles odo>Eat up all the cool used car inventory, often owning more than one at a timeI only have the one "enthusiast" car>Never take care of themI'm lazy and literally take it to the dealer>Muh mods! (Aftermarket downpipe without a tune, cut springs, chinese blowoff valve)The previous owner put a k&n air intake on it, I'm fine with that.>8% 72 month loan for massive amountyeah we took a fat ass loan for 72 months on my wife's expedition. What do you think your money could be doing in the market for 72 months instead of some retard's/the dealership's pocket today.
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>>29020361>Don't buy new, discouraging cool new cars being builtNo I do buy new, when there is something worth buying. (BRZ was the last new car, almost got the Supra but it was auto only at launch)>Eat up all the cool used car inventory, often owning more than one at a timeGuilty, I currently have over 10 cars most older than me,>Never take care of themServiced every year>Muh mods! (Aftermarket downpipe without a tune, cut springs, chinese blowoff valve)No, only proper mods, KW coilovers, custom flowed supercharger and head, pipper cams with custom maps, short throw gear linkages with solid bushes.>8% 72 month loan for massive amountCash up front but I'm not an Ameripoor.
>>29020361I knew it when all of /o/ said i would never get my vy ss ute back on the road after hitting an immovable object known as a wombat then it was confirmed when i became one of the most hated people on /o/ for buying a 10 year old mustang as the nocars seethed like it is some kinda luxury item. The real reality is poor "car enthusiasts" are a problem.
>>29020361But Porsche sells more and more 911s each year
>>29020612right? fuckin retards here are unbelievable
>Don't buy new, discouraging cool new cars being builtThere is nothing cool to buy being made. That's the problem with the free market: it's pointless if all products are identical.
>>29021125They look identical because they need to follow fuel economy standards and their egg shape is best for regular car aerodynamics. Naturally the companies are going to do what works best.
>>29021328You really believe that garbage? They can make a car with 100mpg but it gets shut down by fuel economy and emission standards. Those only exist to drive profit and stifle competition
>>29020372>Youre just broke and a blight on this hobby>This hobby is only for people willing to spend tens of thousands of dollars on a depreciating asset OR hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars on an appreciating asset.So its a fake hobby for consoooooomers.
>>29020361when I was in grade schooleveryone in my class that liked wrenching on stuff were some of the dumbest motherfuckers I've ever metlike, functionally illiterateits what gave me the confidence to teach myself how to work on cars
>>29020361The market of today is not like it was in Y2K.The only enemy of car enthusiasts are bean counting suits and malicious engineering integrity. If you think otherwise then you're going to bat for the suits that hold you down.Never buy new until they learn their lesson.
>>29021330All hobbies are expensive. Car buying is no exception.>Videogames? spend 4-5K every 5 years or so to play at the top tier, or you can just play a console where you own nothing.>Guns, spend thousands on guns only to shoot at the range, literally burning money in bullets.>Tabletop games? Spend tons of money on books and figurines to play on the weekends with discord mods.>Legos? being fair, the stuff that's exepnsive is the branded stuff, but that's the stuff legofags want, no one is buying the unbranded bricks at 1000 pieces for $40>Vinyl? the supply is dying day by day since no one is making new vinyl, getting more expensive by the day, and the people are insufferable.>Collecting? spends tons of money on shit no one cares about, even more expensive if you collect actual valuable things, unlike pokemon cards or funko pops.>Photography? lenses alone are above 1K.>Cooking? will literally ruin food for you, you either end up becoming a gourmand spending thousands in imported oils and cheeses, or you despair.>Horses or any animal beyond a common household pet? the vet bills alone will bankrupt you.>"Extreme" hobbies (Skydiving, snowboarding, scuba diving, etc.) are all expensive as fuck in terms of equipment, safety, training, travel, and lodging>Music instruments take years to master and are costly in upkeep once you get good, cause the newbie shit that's only $200 sucks balls once you git gud.>Any crafting (woodworking, glassmaking, etc.) requires, equipment, safety, tools, and the stuff you're working with gets massively expensive the better materials are.>Sports? the only cheap sport is soccer, because all it requires is the ball and a couple of stones to make a goal (this is why it's popular all over the world) everything else is expensive.>Outdoors (Camping, rock climbing, kayaks, etc) are relatively cheap in getting the gear, it's the traveling where to do it that gets expensive.You either put your wallet where your mouth is, or shut up.
>>29021387All of those hobbies are cheaper by a factor of 10x outside of horses, "extreme" and maybe outdoors which is all travel expenses. Have we already arrived at the state of intentionally misunderstanding the point?
>>29021352same>watch youtube video about EPIC car build>they are swapping an engine on some jdm>everyone in the video has subnormal iqi figure if these retards can do it anyone can, no respect for mechanics at all
>>29021125>>29021328>>29021329Poor fags coping is hilarious.ND3 Miata chads riseup!
>>29021358Actually the biggest enemy of car enthusiasts is Europeans and their gay ass bored fascism.The take rate for manual transmission Z4 M40i was 75%. The Golf R was more than half. Neither exist now because of Euro 7 regulations that just kicked in.
>>29020893Why is Taycan dying? It's called the best EV ever.
>>29021522The only people who bought it, did so they could get a high spec 911 allotment lolIts way better to move it to entry level via 718
>>29021533>>29021522This.It was a gamble that also helped with fleet regulations and credits. IE if people buy one it becomes cheaper to sell a street legal race car that farts in the face of European regulators.It looks cool but it was priced out of normie space.With the new 911 featuring hybrid and ev powertrains its not needed.If they can move an ev to normie space like 80k or whatever it will be a better move. Thats where the 718 comes in.
>>29020372Nissan Z is ugly and the interior is shit. Id rather get a 350z
>>29021461>PoorDo you know how much I spend in fuel? (It's why I'm poor)
>>29020361Enthusiasts are boomers, boomer cock suckers, and retards that own x new sports car (not enthusiasts). I'd love to go transplant that Nissan 1.8 and cvt into something else, but no one cares to figure out how it works electronically or how to fix cvts in general. Very very very few people do ev conversions, I'm interested in doing a hybrid, 0 information. Edison motors is cool but they're going to be prohibitively expensive and deboss garage is insufferable. Everyone else is just regurgitating old shit and I'm not interested.
>>29020368i ride a moped made from one of those chink kits and whenever anyone asks me if i "did it myself" i still feel weird saying so. i literally just put it together and bolted it on, i didnt really "build" it, it was more an assembly process
>>29020361You have causes and effects all mixed up. Back in the 80s - early 2000s, car enthusiasm was a relatively mainstream hobby. Lots of guys were running around spending money on new cars and motorcycles. Today it's a niche hobby because most young men now spend their time playing video games and gooning. It's not that car enthusiasts are acting wrong, it's just that there's a lot fewer of them and the ones there are are also poor due to globalization.
>>29021461I love my nd3 miat. I'm going to be buried in it.
>>29020680I do, it’s still sitting in my garage waiting to be installed though lol.
>>29020368I enjoy riding my bike even I I didn't built it myself.
>>29021329>They can make a car with 100mpg but it gets shut down by fuel economy standardsHow do fuel economy standards shut down the 100 mpg car?
>>29021971>and emissions standards
>>29021868If it is anything bigger than an air cooled small engine then I understand. I admit I don't have the patience or facilities to be working on anything larger than that.
