how much would you pay for a GR MR2? I can seem them going for $50k, something between the GR corolla and Supra
>>29030021the actual one seen on the track
>>29030023Oh shit this Actually looks kinda cool -the fake vents
>$50k for a 300hp V6 toyota coupe>gets trounced by most other $50,000 cars on the road>CVT onlyThey'll sell dozens of them!
>>29030039>v6Hopefully itll be a 4cyl
>>29030021Who makes it? BMW? SubarU?
>>29030047all bmws are built on the clar architecture from the x7 to the z4. they all have the same engine trans and diff so this mid engngined layout would not work, wrenchlet.
>>29030050Oh BMW can only make a single chassis at a time? fucking classic toyotard , try again
>>29030021GRC is already almost $50k for the top trim, MR2 is probs going to be around $60k. I'd pay that but I don't really have room for a 3rd car and don't wanna give up my GRC or my shitass old Miata >>29030025vents are all real>>29030043the test mule is running the G20E turbo 4>>29030047Toyota
>>29030043>Hopefully itll be a 4cylWhy? RWD rear engine for $50k tracks. RWD rear engine 4cyl is lightly used lotus territory that ALSO uses a Toyota engine. Why wouldn't Toyota just buy Lotus chassis' in bulk and put new body panels on them at that rate?
>>29030051>Oh BMW can only make a single chassis at a time?no thats the idea, you have one platform, that you can turn into a "sports car" or a luxury suv. wrenchlet. >>29030058>buying usedi have no idea what wrenchlet bullshit youre talking about
>>29030057yeah they'll probably use that engine
>>29030062>i have no idea what wrenchlet bullshit youre talking aboutSince you're apparently too stupid to understand how OEMs operate: Just because a used lotus is $50k, doesn't mean a new one at $80k wouldn't be purchasable -in bulk- for bare chassis' in the white (that means before paint, body panels, electrics, engine, anything) for significantly cheaper. Essentially Toyota could approach Lotus and ask to buy aforementioned chassis in the white, and suspension for relatively cheap and sidestep setting up their own assembly lines and R&D for a likely new platform. This would enable Toyota to use their manufacturing capability to make electrics, body panels, interior ancillaries, and drivetrain only.
It sounds amazing. I swear I just wrote that I "would never have a Toyota" but a new MR2/MR-S would make me consider it....but some googling tells me it's probably going to be AWD with the same system as the GR Yaris and Corolla. I guess RR is "too dangerous" in 2012+14 but that's what made the old cars what they are. And it'll probably be upwards of $55k.Oh well, there's always the miata. I still hope they make this.
>>29030062>world class sutomaker>single platformshut the fuck up toyotard
>>29030071>world classyou are indian
>>29030073>literal world class, international automaker, like BY DEFINITIONGod dayum these corolla pansies are such spectacular colossal idiots
>>29030021I was already dumb enough to buy the 86, OP. Looks cool, though. That mule seen at Fuji over the weekend'll look pretty gud after some of those edges get rounded out for the production model.
>>29030077stamped it for you, jeethttps://youtu.be/92ydUdqWE1g?si=PxoSuch81oWHomMc&t=25
>>29030080>loses argument>no case>looks stupid>start obsessing about jeetsWtf are you doing
>>29030082man what the fuck are YOU doing? over here talking about bmw being world class lol. whats world class, mcdonalds struts? the same slushbox in every car? a fuckign crystal shift knob? exacty what the fuck i thought you dumbass lower caste rice jeet.
BRO MY FREAKING WORLD CLASS SHIFT KNOB LEDS AND ITS MADE OUT OF CRYSTALS WOW https://youtu.be/XXMu_YgGgPM?si=vjRpawJxR8EjyxDP
>>29030083Nigger youre dancing bhangra around the point to try and safe face. First fuck off. Second, I could have chosen anything to represent BMWs size like their revenue or valuation, just to embarrass your black ass about trying to say they can only make a single platform at a time. Whata stupid thing to try and argue, Like, fuck you. Oh yeah, and you argue modularity but can't defend different drivetrain configurations. What a moron.Anyway, Does anyone know how actually makes this? I don't care personally, I just want to embarrass toyota for being massive, faggot enabling frauds.
>>29030086>indian dirka dirka babbleyou are a ricer and you have never turned a wrench.
>>29030088>devolves into complete irrelevance I accept your concession.
>>29030086Bad day?Wanna… talk about it?
>>29030090Do you know who makes it?
>>29030090Motherfucker wants to talk about how his rental spec bmw with a plastic engine is world class kek
>>29030086>dancing bhangraYou have to go back.
>hybrid 2.0 4 cylInto the trash
>>29030093...It's obviously Toyota dumbass wrenchlet
>>29030098>possible 1.6 hybridNope nope nope directly to the landfill
>>29030098That's literally perfect, you get a turbo ready 4cyl and a integrated high voltage easily swappable battery pack for instant torque. The only people against this are scared wrenchlets.
>>29030103>but hybrid sports cars, no hear me out>heavy batteries are actually a good thing definitely someshit a ricer wrenchlet nevertracked cantdrive would say.
>>29030098might be automatic-only too
>>29030106Man shut the fuck up you faggot ricer, don't ever use my keywords. You put that shit into your reddit filter and block it out deluded tranny freak
>>29030111caaaannnnntttdriiiiveee lolol hahaahahh fucking no talent nerd
>>29030023here's your mr2
>>29030136its ugly but i like how small it is.
>>29030111Seething mexican schizo
another car i cant afford, its cool tho. guess i'll go back to looking at clapped out 90s jdm
>>29030150No one cares what tripfag trannies have to say
>>29030023sweet. can't wait to have a bunch of yanks smug bellyaching because their commie gubberment taxed it into the same price bracket as a Corvette.
>>29030110100%
>>29030153you care enough to feed me attention if you really didnt care you'd just not respond.
>>29030070>I guess RR is "too dangerous" in 2012+14 but that's what made the old cars what they are.>RRWhat do you think the M in MR2 stands for?
>>29030176nobody, not even porsche gives a fuck about true RR so as long as the engine is behind the driver its "rear engined". good luck little turbo autistic freak. youre the type of faggot to call engines with the engine up front and behind the front axles (as god intended) mid engined too fucking retard
>>29030180tomorrow will be a better day, anon
>>29030164Im not feeding you ahitYou are a nigger and im letting you know how worthless you are
>>29030176Picrel is MR. The MR2’s engine is behind the cabin and directly between the rear strut towers. It’s rear-engined.
>>29030193Well technically it’s MAWD in that pic, but there is an MR version of that Previa. Just preempting the inevitable spergout.
>>29030190luv u 2 <3.
>>29030193i for one do not appreciate the revisionism going on before my very eyes here
>>29030197Pray tell, would you consider this Camaro to be MR because most of the engine is behind the front axle?
>>29030200I'd consider it FMR, because the engine being behind the front axle is a uniquely different layout compared to the majority of shitboxes with the engine completely in front of the front axle (less common now that regular cars are pushing the wheels out to the corners, but still a thing), but would still call that splitting hairs and would just call the Camaro FR. I'd consider the MR2 mid engined because the engine is just in front of the rear axle, like a Fiero, or like any of the Italian wedges with the whole V12 stuck in between. I just feel that calling an MR2 rear engined only causes confusion and downplays actual rear-engine cars like classic Porsches or Beetles where the whole-ass engine and all the associated weight is fully behind the rear axle. Just because something isn't made anymore doesn't mean we have to fuck up all the designations.
>>29030136So it's a gayer Scion tC
>>29030210>FMRhow about kys?
>>29030221>but would still call that splitting hairs and would just call the Camaro FR
>>29030210I hate these made up termsFMR no oneLiterally no one says thatBecause it doesnt matterNo one caresFront engine (normal)Mid engineMiddle of the car/engine in the rearThats itRear engine is also retarded because just picture the cars engine hanging off its ass
>>29030224>Rear engine is also retarded because just picture the cars engine hanging off its assyes that is exactly what that picture depicts, you are very smart anon
>>29030023Slightly disappointed they just took a GR Yaris design and stretched it long
>>29030039>>29030043you don't have to hope, it's using the new G20E
>>29030047Toyota only needed BMW and Subaru to help get their first couple GR cars off the ground
>>29030023The actual car would look only vaguely like this. Which is a shame because i like the boxy design. Also this car is a liftback which makes me wonder if its actually an mr2.
>>29030246Its pretty obvious toyota is getting ready to bring back a range of their own sports cars by seperating GR into its own brand with the GT as the flagship. The collaborations were essentially a proof of concept which was very successful.
>>29030234Why thank you anon glad you noticedNow back to coloring my doodles
>>29030110Auto only isnt really a jap thing
>>29030155only europe does that shit. americans can get foreign cars cheaper than they would be in their own country.
>>29030250it could also be a Celica or maybe it's gonna be a new name that's a mix of both being mid engine and AWD
>>290300433-cyl out of GR Yaris
>>29030021gott dayum dat look seggzeymid-engina is the fyoocher, C8, MR-Dos
>>29030308>the nightmare keeps getting worseoof I hope not
>>29030278>chicken tax>1980's heavy motorcycle tax>25 year rule>the MIGA taffifsThe point is I'm going to have to hide a fresh batch of hurr durr mah Corvette mah Camaro threads because the American big whatever has a lobby group on par with the farmers.
>>29030066lotus can't manufacture in builk and as a small manufacturer doesn't have to meet the same crash standards that toyota does. this is one of the dumbest ideas i've heard on 4chan in a long time.
>$50k Thats fucking retarded. Stop paying literal Jew car prices
>>29030352>>chicken taxtoothless joke that everyone skirted.>1980's heavy motorcycle taxwho gives a shit about bikes? this thread is about cars.>25 year rulenot relevant to anything actually being sold here like the MR2 supposedly will.>the MIGA taffifsIs this even doing fuck all to any car?The american car market absolutely shits on europe no questions. You'll have to hide mah corvette and mah camaro thread for the same reasons you have to hide any mention of the Mustang GTD. because the MR2 will be shit on by a 4 cylinder camaro and won't be able to actually compete.
>>29030111>my keywordslmaobut seriously this retard sees the same anon everywhere he goes. did he fuck your wife or something
>>29030066Was your father in charge of the Cadillac Allante project?
>>29030224>Rear engine is also retarded because just picture the cars engine hanging off its assRENAULT 8 MA GUEULE
>>29030851No, I was. I got a nice bonus and bought a bass boat with it.
I want a mid engine car with a stick this thing better not suck dick
>>29030083>>29030086every board is infested with jeets now. how do we get good at identifying them?
>>29030021Garbage.A 40 year old Celica Alltrac turbo looks 10 times better than this shit.
>>29030936The cellica looks like a vacuum nozzle attachment
>>29030948You're an idiot, objectively.This was a very comfortable and well-equipped car, especially for the 80's.Stick to your $80,000 half tons retard.
A MAN IN DANDISM NEW RICH AND SPORTSPOWERED MIDSHIP SPECIALTY
>>29030625The MR2 was sold for $23k in 1995 which is $50k adjusted for inflation. Which makes me think the car will cost much more than that
>>29031059A Toyota Supra in 1995 sold for $49,900 for a turbo version. Inflation calculator tells us that should be a $110,872 car. The highest trim level (MSRP) Starts at $69,300. What the fuck does 1995 pricing have to do with anything?
>>2903107090s was the peak era for japanese sports cars so I'm curious what they cost back then compared to now, considering how many options you had. But when you put it that way current prices aren't even bad
>>29031059basically the same price as my old celica but they are radically different in price now lol thank god the celica is so cheap to buy used.
>>29030311crazy the time its out a c8 will be less
they actually did itthe absolute madmenthey made the klr 330 real
this sumbitch better be FOUR WHEEL DRIVE and go FULLY SIDEWAYS and be able to tank a motherfucking CORKSCREW JUMP at 160 MILES AN HOUR and the WARRANTY BETTER NOT VOID or i will NUKE GUNMA PREFECTURE
>>29030256
>>29030936>ST165Now that's a Toyota I can appreciate.Cool story: when I was a teenager in the mid-00s I worked at the BX on base, there was a guy who stored his ST185 next to the base auto hobby shop on the road I went by to get to work. I somehow got the guy working there to give me the owner's number. Clearly a giant black guy. I tried asking to buy it 3 times over like 8 years, he refused to sell it. It was there for at least 5 years ree. Of all the cars I pursued and couldn't get, that's the only one I get all emotional about.
>>29030193I have no idea about the new one but the Mk1's engine was distinctly ahead of the strut towers and rear axle, far enough forward to have a whole decent size trunk behind the engine bay.
>>29031353I guess the AW11 is slightly more midship.In SW20s, most of the engine proper is in front of the axle but some is right above it. I'd call it RR personally, but I wouldn't be offended if you called it MR or came up with some crazy name like hybrid-midhip front-bias rear-wheel-drive (HMFBR).
>>29030021It's going to be trash like Yaris and Corolla, and Toyota will refuse to do recalls again. They'll cram in 3-banger with big ass turbo and that shit will tear itself apart as it will age because it's overengineered as fuck, just like most cars made over last 10 years. Calling it now.
>>29031059Imagine falling for the inflation meme. Yeah you go ahead and pay whatever price they charge
>>29031388>the problem is overengineeringOh, that's most certainly not it
>>29031410spoken like a true bus rider
>>29030299Honestly whats the point of that? Cool thing about the sw20 is that it has a FWD setup but is RWD.
>>29030628Nta but people are hiding your threads because you're an obnoxious, insecure sperg who is obsessed with bench racing.
>>29031388You've never driven either car
>>29031412It is though, because overengineered cars have dogshit tier longevity so you keep buying new shit. Old cars were built to last and their engines were bulletproof, and would still have room for improvement (tuning), current day ones come pre-tuned right out of factory and are calculated to run autistically efficiently for limited amount of time until they break down by design.>>29031458I drive cars unlike some of you bus riders, I refuse to touch humiliation ritual that is current day Toyota cars. If you like humiliation, go ahead and drive that piece of shit, but don't act surprised when they start breaking down faster than older cars.
>>29031454I didn't make any threads. there is more than one person, you know.
>>29031462So i was correct, lel.
Looks good but i wish mid engine cars were roomier for lanklets like myself. can’t slouch in them to cope for the lack of headroom
>>29031472>heh, you think the ford pinto is a piece of shit? you've never driven one.
>>29031443No i buy used cars you indian buzzword user
>>29031515ooooooh wooooow he buys used
>>29031476the original mr2 is comfy inside. was surpised how easy it could fit my 6'3 350lb friend. unfortunately at that point we might as well walk.
>>29030021if it's manual AWD <3500lbs with a 4cyl version of the GR corolla engine I'd pay 50k easilything will be an absolute rocket
>>29031596How old are you because you sound like a little kid
>>29031348Yeah, I too wish that I would have acquired one of these, during the 80's.
>>29031596>3500lbsOh boy.>>29031596>a 4cyl version of the GR corolla engineKeep that warranty paperwork handyAn absolute TURD
>>29030021Is this real? Wtf am I seeing? McDonald's status?
>>29031596Yea I'm interested
>>29031348Too round for the 80s. Shoulve been more angular then it wouldve been sex. Oh well looks like shit but not as bad as the 4 bug eye celica
>>29031640>McDonald's status?Mr2yota was always a McValue menu car, every generation was McDonalds front and rear, the new Mr2yota will be McDonald's value menu special
>>29031646Maybe it'll be different, either way maccas are based if it's maccas japan
>>29031646Who cares. No one thats who. AW11 still feels good to drive
hilarious back vent like it's a supercar and not a budget penalty shitbox
>>29031717Do you know what the vent is for champ?
>>29030256i want an actual toyota supra. not a bmw supra.also one of those v8 models the aussies get.
>>29030110GR doesn't really do that.
>>29031348I got smoked by one of those in my SW20. The dude was chill though.>>29031364Are those support beams aftermarket?
>>29031733>champNothing, champ.That's not even an accurate rendering of the vehicle, which has had some 20 prototypes, per Car and Driver.VAPORWARE.
>>29032021Do you know the mr2 has an engine in the rear retard? How else is it going to get airflow dumbass?
>>29030021Mid engined goodness or nu-miata 2027 is gonna be a tough choice!
>>29030224>just picture the cars engine hanging off its ass
>>29032553>How else is it going to get airflow dumbass?We'll know once they have settled on the design.OP picrel is not the final design, as I said to youretard
>>29030224It's simple. The Cayman and the 911 both have the engine in the rear, but the Cayman is mid-engine and the 911 is rear engine. The difference is that the Cayman engine faces towards the front, so it sits between the axles, whereas the 911 engine faces towards the rear, sitting behind the rear axle.
>>29032591>Desperate backpeddlingLel
>>29030071>>29030086poojeet will always be lower than single cell organisms TID is nonnegotiable
>>29031968You had the same but a better engine and lost. How
>>29033086Can't shift
>>29030136Everyone is going to know that I'm having a midlife crisis if (when) I buy one of these (I know this specific image is AI, but you know what I mean)... Shit.t. 40 year old virgin
>>29030023>generic angry nucar with gigantic grille
>>29033102Understandble.
>>29033633is this your preferred grill size?
>>29034283Yes, unironically would prefer this
>thread full of window lickers critiquing the design of AI slop and a test mule cobbled together from yaris partspremium content
>>29034993>AI slopcan someone pill me, like i saw the video of the black one on the track with te37s, what the fuck is the red thing its not real right?
>>29030021Would unironically buy with the Toyota 2.5 PHEV drivetrain.Maximum reliability with decent acceleration (5.7sec 0-60mph)
>>29034283>>29034295>i can't breathe
>>29034993>implying it will look any better later onPot meet kettle
>>29035625It's a mid engined car, it doesn't breathe from the front
>>29035682lots of mid engine cars breathe from the front. even the 911 still breathes from the front and has massive intakes/radiators.
>>29035682>anon learns something new today
>>29035774Yeah TIL this car is a maccas POS snap oversteering slop-mobile
>>29033086His was a turbo, and I had an NA version. Also I admit I didn't know that street and was scared there'd be a speed camera.>>29033102While you're technically not wrong, fuck you anyway.
>>29030039So basically every Japanese throwback since the CB1100. Heavy, slow, overpriced, missing some buttfuckingly obvious point that'll piss off everyone.
>>29035774that's the cooling system, not the intake
>>29035975Yeah its a little odd; Its like they saw Ford have great success with the Mustang and Bronco (marginal success with the Thunderbird). Dodge's success with the Charger and Challenger. Jeep's continued success with not touching the overall styling of wranglers. Chevy's success with the Camaro over the years and occasional retro styling. Its like the American brands know how to do retro throwbacks and usually have success. Then the Japanese give it a shot and we end up with the Eclipse Cross. Nobody holding their breath for Mitsubishi's return to fun cars. A Honda Prelude at $50,000 with a CVT. Honda Rebel 250 that exclusively sells to MSF classes. Subaru abandoning the STi for decades. Honda Civic Si being a bloated slow overpriced sedan. The Nissan 400z thats priced like a Porsche but performs like a 20 year old Nissan. Japanese can't seem to do retro, and every time they iterate it feels like they give a 2% gain for a 10% price bump.
>>29036020Imagine being a fordfag
>>29036025Imagine wanting a manual V8 only to realize you have exactly 1 choice. The bronco looks cool as shit but of course the engine and transmission is made of glass. I forgot Mazda's honorable mention of the Miata that largely hasn't changed other than price and weight over the years. But remember when they made a 323 or a 626 as a "zoom zoom" car? Something that was actually fun and sporty and not just labeled as such by the marketing team to impress middle class white women?
>>29036020>The Nissan 400z thats priced like a Porsche but performs like a 20 year old Nissan400z is cheaper than a mustang GT albeit
>>29036025Bro didn't even make it to the end of the first sentence.
>>29036082That must be why I see mustangs daily and more Ferrari's than I do 400Z's.
>>29030021Maybe would. This is a bit tangential but is GR ever going to make Lexus-esque premium models? Or is Lexus going to do it but it looks like Lexus F Sport has been practically killed off for GR.
>>29036082but if u want LSD shit start at FIDDY FY GAY
>>29036333you can put an LSD in for less than 2k if you're not a wrenchlet
>>29036333Osgiken diff 1,300 bucks shipped or your door but you're a nu-male financing wrenchlet kek
>>29036516Based knower
