should I do it bros? good deal or no?
N G M I GMI
>>29030297lol no retard but i know you're gonna anyway
Funny how somebody will spend $50k on one of these appliances but they think it's insane spending $50k on a pickup truck.
>>29030297>elected optionsthat's a lot of money for nitrogen in your tires
>Paper literally has a disclaimer on it that says "we didn't have to add this charge but we did anyways because fuck you"
>>29030297>$700 doc fees>$800 fuck-you chargeyou got raped bro
>50k for a rav fucking 4
>>29030342because the equivalent pickup truck is $60-70k and will either spin a bearing, blow a turbo, rust out in <10 years, or need cam phasers once the warranty ends
>MSRP on these cars is ~40k>sodomized with 2.5k fuckyou feeGreat deal, sign it up!
It's a bad deal, you're not paying enough.Anything bellow 70k is pitiable poorfag territory, you're just some pinko commie faggot ripping off honest good working people. Fuck you.
>>29031685You can get a really nice new truck for $50k. You're delusional if you think a new Toyota will make it to 10 years without any serious issues when they already have issues across the board.
>>29030342>My soulless, boring appliance is better than your soulless boring appliance
>>29031814What's boring about a 400hp V8? What's boring about being able to drift in the winter? What's boring about exploring the winderness?
The fuck are you buying? Can't you get a rav4 le hybrid awd for like $32k before tax? Nearly the same shit without your gay heated seats
>>29031685"Equivalent pickup truck" is a fuckin $32k ford Maverick
wouldnt pay 5k for a rav4 what the fuck are you doing
>>29030297>Rav4Try Reddit bro
>>29030297>vin: 2Stopped reading there, the answer is no.
>>29031821You're not going to find a brand new rav4 listed for under $40k, upper trim ones are going for over $50k. Yet they continue to sell nearly half a million every year, its insane.
>>29031809>a really nice truck the rav4 is toyotas bread and butter and the hybrids all have 10 year/150k mile epa mandated powertrain warranties>>29031821>>29032185they sell so well toyota dealers all mark their suvs up honestly the dealer experience is why i tell everyone to just buy a mazda instead
>>29032200>$100,000 msrp
>>29032205>just buy the diesel bro
>>29032208>just go buy a ford bro stop buying chevy junk
Why the fuck are people still buying American after all these years? They never improved their products even after the Japs stole their market share back in the 80s and 90s.
>>29030297RETARD.
Your typical Toyotard, everybody >>29030297
>>29032263t. driver of the chebby in >>29032208
>>29032242
>>29032287>just buy a jeep bro these new cars are so god damn bad lol i think everything else got so bad while the germans stayed the same b58 is okay but not sure if i would trust the rest of the car around it
>tipping the dealership $3000+ for selling u a car
>>29032200>>29032205>>29032208>>29032213Same slop different badge...https://motorillustrated.com/toyota-rav4-fifth-generation-2019-2025-problems-and-reliability-report/183727/
>>29032287I wouldn't by German either.
>>29032327did you read it, its nowhere nearly as bad >carbon deposits/oil consumption (its running 0w16...go up to 0w20 and its probably gonna go 100% to normal)>warranty on the hv cable extended >jerky transmission in some casesyeah i'd take that over https://www.torquenews.com/1084/why-ram-1500-hurricane-engine-electrical-demands-are-causing-total-instrument-cluster>ford cam phasers/timing chains and soon wet oil pump belts>gms with spun bearings worse than the tundras imo>stellantis continuing their italian american dodge/fiat heritage as pic rel just having the whole fucking truck being a problem toyota/mazda is the least-slop of the nu-car companies which is sad because as bad as they can be in 2026 everyone else is worse just dont buy a tundra everything else will probably be okay
>>29032338Did you read it? You seemed to have skipped over the cracking engine blocks, the fire risks and the multiple issues that can cause a loss of power situation. It's overpriced slop just like all new Toyota products.
>>29032351yeah, for 8200 units narrowed down to a specific vin range. honestly a non-issue considering they build literal millions of them a year. im skipping over it because toyota is actually covering it.
>>29032356The big 3 shit out millions of trucks a year. Do you think every single one of them is going to blow up? It's still a gamble whether it's Toyota or the big 3 these days so what's the point of paying the Goyota tax for something so valueless? Also it's irrelevant if Toyota "covers" it or not. The fact that those potentially dangerous things could happen is the problem.
>>29032367teslas will lock you in the car during a car accident and plenty of other cars can try to kill you >potentially dangerousford is recalling 741,000 f150s and explorers because it wont stay in park, i'd argue a car that rolls into you is pretty dangerous https://www.torquenews.com/1/ford-transmission-park-issue-really-parking-lock-damage-issue-causing-recall-741000-f-150the gm recall was actually 782,000 truckshttps://www.caranddriver.com/news/a64611938/chevy-silverado-tahoe-cadillac-escalade-defective-v8-recall/i would argue 8,241 is a smaller number than 741,000 or 782,000. the only goyim are the dumb dumbs still buying amerislop $50-80,000 half ton pickups that look like pic rel after a year
>>29030297>a goy sees this and thinks, "hell yeah."
>>29032395lgtss >ford130,000 is still a smaller number than 782,000, don't buy a tundra
>tfw paid msrp sticker price (and not a cent more) in cash for my J vin corolla last year
Yet another notch in the new bad, old good column.
>>29032385that's worse than my 11 year old f150 in the rust belt. why is GM so shitting at rust proofing? they joke in new york is that a chevy will only last 3 years here.
>>29030297>$50k into debt for a mom-mobile what they've done to our society is unreal if you really think about it
Why is one guy spamming all these screencaps against American cars?
>>29032404This would be a deal breaker for me.None of that is being put back together properly - for both the motor and panels.Imagine your new car with scuffed up panels and hood with new panel gaps, cause no one is careful.
>>29032580this>brand new car needs whole engine out>under WARRANTY those teenagers are rushing the fuck out of the entire job
Why not get a cool sports car for that money or less?
>>29032722Can't use a sportscar to drive uber/lyft, which is probably how OP is planning on paying his $700/month payments
>>29032492>he's too poor to have 50k to pay in cash
>>29030297>DARCARS AssuranceWalk away, you fucked up and it's too late
>>29031685me when I get all my opinions from the internet
>>29032338>toyota/mazda is the least-slop of the nu-car companies>which is sadNo, what is sad is you will write this in complete seriousness.
>>29032570Reddit convinced a bunch of trannies that toyota makes the only worthwhile cars, and now if you drive anything else one of those troons will go into a TDS frenzy about your truck
>>29030297Never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever buy a car from fucking DARCARS.
>>29032205would, even tho she stoopid
>>29030297Get a used GX460. Port injection v8. 4lo, center locking diff, terrain select, adjustable ride height. You can get clean examples with lowish miles for 36-40k.
>>29033015reddit is when the nhtsa forces my car company to recall a million cars in a year because they forgot how to make a good car >$4800 with $7000 core charge engine for a gm l87 6.2>no assembly lube on a new enginethis is reddits fault. >>29033012what are you going to do about itall new cars suck just some suck more than others; eventually all the used cars will end up in a junkyard >>29033006im educating the masses
>>29033358forgot my pic lolinsane the shit people will excuse i remember 15 years ago people were dragging toyota for the tundra frame twerk
>>29033360>reddit is when my car turns into carbeque gm unironically should've gone bankrupt it died after 2011 at least pre-bankruptcy gm just looked and felt like shit but wouldn't try to kill you or kill itself (to be fair gen 1 canyons/colorados were setting themselves on fire from the blower resistors)
>>29033367honestly man i dont even want to post stellantis content its like kicking someone when theyre down its just sad at this point...i know a few cdjr techs and they're busy on the plus side if you want to be a cdjr tech dealers will give you big sign up bonuses in busy regions
>>29033360Those marks on the bearing are just from finishing the coating, not wear. And 2 thou is a totally normal clearance. .025 mm (less than a thou) would be ridiculously tight.
>>29033376still no assembly lubehttps://www.fb.com/groups/1861051404429711/permalink/2208575173010664/imagine spending $100k to import a 2024 escalade to poland and the engine blows 15k miles in like the op in that link now playing doctor with his engine, looking through his post history he used ACL bearings on the new 0mi engine
>>29033377I don't make a habit of imagining the absurd and your ESL is giving me a headache. I'm gonna go mow my large beautiful mature red oak shaded yard in front of my large beautiful American brick home.
>>29033388>imagining the absurdabsurd is giving gm/ford/cdjr a $1000 payment every month, glad you agree
>>29033397160k on mine, runs great never had a single problem, head and bores look new. Must be a skill issue.
>>29033358Raped n Gaped
>>29033400NTA but I have a 2.7L nanoboost in my truck and I love it dearly. Built like a rock, actually.
>>29030297Bought my 2018 Rav 4 (1 owner 40k mi) in 2021 for $25,000 now I have over 130k mi on it. No issues and I’ve done all the maintenance myself. $50k for a rav4 is stupid.
>>290335031st gen f150? i have a 2015 from new with 160k miles. engine is still rock solid. 6r80 is fine. frame rotted out since lol ny. i'm in the process of welding it back together. zero problems with the drivetrain though, without seeing an DI gremlins. i'd probably put a catch can on a newer DI engine if it didn't do port injection too.
>>29033496thanks for saving my post now it will be on your computer and you will see it a few weeks from now reminding you of my messagei am glad i made a small impact on you :) >>29033503those have wet oil pump belts, lifespan of 120-200k miles; i'd imagine 10-15 years. >>29033400survivorship bias >4 timing chain sets in 100k miles>3rd oil pan>needs a 10r80 sooninsane
>>29033523makuloco hates fords since his lightning. ford does GM tier rust proofing though.
Look he gave me even more (You)sI don't need em though. Do you mind if I just not read your posts
>>29033524i mean they put his kids through collegei find it amusing he made a whole business and following documenting it.to ford's credit their trucks dont rust out nearly as bad as gm; gm is going to ecoat their frames after 2027im not even telling people to buy a tundra buy something >15 years old or a 3/4 ton gasser if you want a truck...maybe a nissan titan >>29033565nope, rent free, that's how this works
You need to buy an overpriced toyota shitbox that ages faster than a white woman in a sunbelt state or you bought the wrong car, ok?
>>29033573>ages fasteryeah dude you need to buy a $60,000 chevy that rusts out before you finish paying it off like a real murrican patriot ready to die for judeochristian values. LIKE A ROCK
>>29033579Err. Rust depends on where you live. Brainlet moment
This dude is too easy. Hungry ghost for real! KWAB
>>29033588yeah. GM's only lasting 3 years in the rust belt is normal. MAGA! ISRAEL FIRST!
>>29033602I think you're getting a little off topic there, my ally.
>>29033523So what causes all this? Bad engineering where even after they fix it, it still shits the bed time and time again?
>>29033841Not to give too much credit to that Raped n' Gaped bitch that's scared of trucks, but yes a big part of truck shopping is picking the right motor. I would avoid the 3.5L and there's a reason Ford don't offer them anymore.
>>29033957How are we still making such shit motors? This should have stopped back in the 1980s or 90s already.
>buying a new car at msrpKek
>>29033602would literally kms if i was forced to live in the midwest.
Wow. These failures make the DCT automatic in the Focus and Fiesta seem like peanuts. You can always replace the transmission with the manual equivalent pretty easily and still have a reliable little beater. I would like to buy a newer car eventually but just seems like it's over for the industry. Can't go past 2016 in most cases.
>>29034524Yeah>>29034005
