are electric cars a meme bros
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>>29033217I thought so, but if you need a second car and you don't plan to make long road trips, the Tesla's make sense financially. My electric company dropped my rate from .20 to .16 for off peak charging
>>29033217In the city? No. Across most of North America? Yes until solid state batteries arrive.
>>29033217>are electric cars a meme brosConsidering they've been around in one form or another since the auto was invented, not really.What is retarded, is considering them a universal replacement for all other methods of moving a vehicle.
>>29033227you will never claim the reigns of the golden age of the automobile chang.it will never belong to you, also you will die from consuming gutter oil.
is the slate good and easy to fix?
>>29033228It's cool for the wife. I prefer something more fun for myself.
>>29033241They are. Gas vehicles require way too much dedicated infrastructure that can't be sustained when most people switch to electric.
Electric cars are just hitting 270+ miles as standard for the general auto brands. In three+ years they'll have far more. The only issue is refueling vs recharging time, charging infrastructure and auto brands not wanting to develop EVs because they rather not work on something thats constantly innovating.
>>29034804cool story bro my 10 year old dodge challenger goes 500 miles on one tank of gas and looks 99999x cooler than any evshit
>>29034808you're not the target consumer of EVs, we're talking about everyone else that just wants an appliance to get around with. Your opinion does not matter
>>29034804>two more weeksSure thing batteryboi
>>29033227Of course an ox farmer would seethe over laughing at EVsGo back to making my I-phone. It's the only thing your kind is good at making. The Chinese are so pathetic, that's why they put on such a silly overcompensating performance. To distract them from how shitty their country is.
>>29034470If you quit trying to cope and change "gas" to "battery operated" your redundant retort becomes factual since that's the primary reason why electric cars only continue to go backwards. They're merely niche products with very limited efficient applications that were pushed as a must have fad on the LGBT+P lames with lies about they're saving the planet.
>>29034885You don't have to switch to battery electric in order to give up on ICE. You could also ride the bus or get a bicycle.
I find electric far more feasible if you have a good charging network between home and your final destination. I have solar at my place and a level 2 charging so charging at home while I sleep is quite negligible. At my office they have chargers too but I rarely find myself using them it. Car is a 2024 BMW Ix btw
>>29034926I'm well aware that those are the only truly effective modes of electric vehicles and have been advocating for more of their use for the past few years but cars are and shall be the primary form of transportation until personal vehicles are outlawed. I'm not against electric vehicles I'm against the shoddy overpriced products that haven't improved and only gotten worse over the past 30 years.
>>29033227>65% stock dropWonder how many china men died because of that.
>>29034885>BEVs are a nicheLmao, based on what? They currently serve 98% of the populations needs. China, the industrial powerhouse of the planet, is going full in on them.
its incredible to watch the skepticism around EVs shift from their genuine shortfalls as a product in the 2000s from absolute garbage range, super compact cars, to today where people are nitpicking about road trips and charge times faster than 30 minutes.
>>29034978But anon you dont understand. I NEED 400+ miles of range because I travel that much every single day and sitting for 30 minutes on a road trip would drive me insane instead of the usual 10 to fill up my Dodge Charger.
>>29034812Do you people ever make up your fucking minds? "EV's are at the point where they can take over for ICE vehicles" "EV's aren't for everybody". Which fucking one is it?
>>29035003taking over ICE vehicles means they replace the camry, not your muscle car retard
>>29035005There isn't a single EV on the market that can do what a Camry can do.
>>29034969>98%5 X (pronounced ex, not times) more environment99.9% carbon pollution 1000% renewable
>>29035007You mean be overpriced, overhyped and overvalued? Think again
>>29035010A Camry is all of those, you're right about that. However a Camry will go 500+ miles in -40 temps on a tank of fuel that takes less than a minute to refill. I can leave a Camry parked in front of my house for a month, jump in it and go. I can also drive it for a month while parking it in front of my house. Can't do either of those things with a EV.
>>29035007lucid air can go 512 miles in the best case scenario, give it another 10 years and every electric shitbox will be able to do that
>>29035029The best case scenario is irrelevant. ICE's lose little to no range in the the worst case scenario therefor a EV should be compared in the worst conditions possible as well. Do that and the range is always half or less of the predicted range.
>>29035031>halfmore like 4/5, newer EVs come with a cooling/heating system to keep the battery temps stable
>>29035032Where does the energy to heat the pack come from? I don't think you realize how shitty EV's are in the winter.
>>29035035at first it comes from a heat pump, after you drive a couple miles it comes from a heat exchanger hooked to your electric motors
>>29035042ICE engines become efficient cogenerators in the winter while the battery car steals range mimic the comfort of an ICE vehicle
>>29035042How much heat do you think is coming off those motors when it's -20 or below? The heat pump is still going to pull several kw's to keep the pack conditioned in these temp. This is why your range goes to shit in the winter and also why you can't just leave a EV parked outside unplugged without losing serious range. Oh but let me guess... People should just not live where it's cold? People should have or build garages just to use fossil fuels to keep their cars usable in the winter? Gee EV's really sound like they're ready.
>>29035054>-20do you live in alaska? I live a few hours from canada and never experienced that kind of temperature. unless you live in the dakotas or montana is this really an issue?
>>29035064I live in Alberta where it gets a lot colder than that. Pretty much all the provinces and a lot of the more northern states can and do see -20f temps. Even at warmer and more common -5f temps your range is still extremely bad. So yes cold range issue is still a major issue for a fair number of people. Maybe not as many as people who don't see those temps but a EV needs to be able to fully replicate what a ICE can do.
>>29035077ok then congrats you are one of the few people where ICEs are a better choice
>>29033217E-waste
>>29035035Seems to work for Norway.
>>29035407Norway is tiny, not that cold and most people live in densely populated cities. They also have access to actually green geothermal energy.
>>29035434>most people live in densely populated cities.How is that different in Canada?
>>29035437Look up the population densities between the two countries... Only about a third of Canada's population lives in the overpopulated cesspools like Vancouver and Toronto. The rest of the population is pretty spread out along the vast expense. The US is pretty much the same. Why do you think passenger rail transportation doesn't work in North America?
>>29035440> The rest of the population is pretty spread out along the vast expenseSeems centred around the provincial capitals. When do you ever drive distances greater than Edmonton-Calgary? Literally nobody lives in the territories.>Why do you think passenger rail transportation doesn't work in North America?Competition from freight companies and airlines.
>>29035456>When do you ever drive distances greater than Edmonton-Calgary?Pretty much every weekend? That's pretty normal for anybody that's into mountain activities. >Competition from freight companies and airlines.lol okay.
>>29035054>This is why your range goes to shit in the winterLowest full charge range I got in winter this past year was 170 miles, and that was after 3 weeks of -20F. Summer maximum range has been 240 miles.I don't need to drive 170 miles in one day and it wasn't an issue. And I didn't need to change anything about my driving habits or my charging schedule to "adjust" to having "lost" 70 miles of range. Even if I charge at peak hours I'm still only spending $0.06 per mile for "fuel".The only thing my current BEV cannot do is let me conveniently take a weekend road trip. But given the fuel savings over just a few months I could rent any car I want or would prefer for that with the money I'm saving in fuel.I don't care about pollution, or "saving the planet", or any other nebulous bullshit ego-stroking reasons for owning an EV. I bought a very basic EV and enjoy not having the pay so much for fuel/taxes.I am burning the shit out of tires in a hurry though because of how many miles I'm putting on this thing though. EVs are very hard on tires due to their weight and low center of gravity.
>>29035440Canada doesn't have overpopulated cess pools.
>>29035854Okay and you're just leaving your EV outside without being plugged in? You sound pretty retarded.
>>29036120What do you think Hongcouver and Toronto are?
>>29036313Cities.
>>29036326Yes, that are overpopulated shitholes.
>>29034978I don't think there's ever going to be a good EV given how new cars are becoming more and more enshittified every year.Too bad the battery tech wasn't around back in 90s and earlier. What could have been...
>>29036330No they aren't.
>>29035440Oslo is nowhere near as dense as Toronto or Vancouver. It's closer to Halifax or Quebec City.
>>29036356They are by first world standards. >>29036483City density is irrelevant. Very few people live outside of the big cities there. Where are you even supposed to go in Norway? Lots of people live rural or semi rural in North America. There are also places to go.
>>29036498Norwegians take trips to remote places or visit Sweden, Finland or Denmark.>Very few people live outside of the big cities there.What's a big city by your standards? Norway has many rural areas with agriculture
>>29036527A trip for them is just a commute for a lot of North Americans. You people struggle to comprehend the size of North America. A big city to me is a million plus.
>>29036559There's exactly one city in Norway with more than a million and that's only if you include the whole metropolitan area.The Mercator Projection makes Svalbard look bigger than the mainland and Ellesmere dwarf Baffin island.
>>29036559that comparison is a bit misleading. Norway and the rest of Scandinavia are the only countries in Europe with population densities similar to the US. The fjord geography also makes roads much longer than you would expect. A drive between two relatively close Norwegian cities like Bergen and Trondheim takes ten hours which is more time than it takes me to drive to texas. Similar routes might require time consuming ferries, and much more distance city pairs exist within Norwegian borders. In practice Norway's overall remoteness factor is often similar or higher than than you'd expect to see in the US outside of Alaska.
>>29036571How many people are doing these "10 hour trips" in the dead of winter with EV's? I bet it's slim to none. An EV might get you from home to the mosque and back in Norway but things are different in NA.
>>29036575Canada doesn't even have real winter outside of the territories. You still get several hours of daylight, it's more like a cold autumn.
>>29036580Alberta is routinely one of the coldest places on earth. Sask and Manitoba get cold as fuck too.
>>29036498What first world standard?
>>29036584As I said, it's cold but it doesn't get truly dark.
>>29036584>-40°FNow imagine if it was -40°C instead.
Double the range of the VW ID Buzz and I'd live in it forever.
