They used to be good. Then they started catering to the chinks. What now?
NA V8 AMG C63
>>29037162I'm not even going to demand NA. The hot V twin turbo V8 that they used to use would suffice. But nothing less will.
>>29037132>remove screen as instrument cluster>remove cheap hooker interior LEDs>remove gaudy giant mercedes logos, especially gay light up ones on grille>make the exterior design language elegant again and less angry>reintroduce NA V8s
>>29037132Make good reliable cars
>>29037132Erase my memory and invent a time machine to transport me back to the 1960s when they still made among the best cars in the world. That’ll give me about 40 years to experience them at their best before I ultimately keel over and die just in time for the company to go to shit, blissfully ignorant of just how bad things would really get.
>>29037543If they do, will you pay for a new one? The price will be such that their margins don’t decrease from what they are now, and the engine needs to satisfy euro emissions.
>>29037598"no, because new cars are gay and dumb and gay and i only drive 20 year old used cars"
>>29037543this plus a new 6x6
>>29037132Eat shit and go bankrupt is the only thing they can do to make me happy.
boxy styling, naturally aspirated v8 and straight-6 engines, reliability first, manual tranny and limited slip diff available as an option, no spyware or internet connectivity, no screens inside. so never gonna happen in other words
>>29037162>what are emissions laws
>>29037132Why don't I see them anymore? it's only bmw/audi
>>29037132>What can they do to regain y/o/ur trustMake bulletproof tanks again.
>>29037707>The W214 is the first Mercedes-Benz non-EQ vehicle to utilize the MBUX Superscreen, a tri-screen setup which pairs dual-12.3 in (310 mm) screens with a 17.7 in (450 mm) screen to make what looks like a large screen.[18] The Superscreen features a selfie camera and is able to stream third-party apps such as Angry Birds, TikTok, Vivaldi, and Zoom.
>>29037712Yeah but then everyone would just keep their tank forever bc it would never break and the company would go out of business bc nobody would buy a new one. How do we deal with this issue anons?
>>29037689>manual Mercedesretard amerigolem
The demographic that did buy them doesn’t exist anymore so they are targeting new money third worlders. Their cars aren’t designed for Northern Europeans and WASP Americans anymore, they’re designed for someone who has a job running a scam call centre or commits welfare fraud. Because those Europeans and Americans are either in care homes or unemployed, or if they are in a job it’s taxed to oblivion and they have guilt about the environment
>>29037765I'm european and manual swapped my 190E 2.6 back in the day
Die and get purchased by Xpeng or Dongfeng.Most of their designers already work for Chinese firms now.
>>29037773Mercedes-Benz is already majority owned by Geely and the Beijing Automotive Group.
>>29037774Are they being directed to make bad decisions by China to cheapen their overall value to allow for a proper take over?
>>29037132>What can they do to regain y/o/ur trust?Put some new V8 Diesels into production.
>>29037777Yes for that imaginary 1990s market. All of those time travelers have money to spend. Don't forget some lightweight RWD sports cars, those are real money makers.
>>29037132They can't be saved. To go back to when they made quality would be seen as a step backwards, and they can't do that. Also, quality cars don't break which means less income for the service department and you're not replacing it every 2-3 years. Every model needs more technology than the previous one. Bigger screens. Larger badges. Smaller and more complicated (more "advanced") engines. More disposability.
>>29037703>we cant have na engines that we had until 5 years ago because of eurofaggot buttfuckers.>we will only have ev in the future because of eurofaggot no hvac buttfuckersCan someone explain this cope to me?
>>29037778>lightweight rwdK but why aren't these money makers anymore? Why is an m4 a 4300 lb car wtf?Sports cars shouldn't ever weigh more than 3k.
>>29037812Please point out which components you’d like removed from the m4 to reduce weight (plastic engine btw). Bear in mind that people buying these cars new want >more technology than you probably do>awd for launches>safety to survive the crash they get into before selling the car to (((you)))The car that checks these boxes is a high-end Porsche. Those will never be cheap used and buying new require you to have a lot of money and get in line. Even with those prices, Porsches need their suv division for profits.
>>29037132>they started catering to the chinksthey ARE chinks, anon. more than 20% shares owned by chinks. they're the most chink german car manufacturer.
>Mercedes-Benz Group: 19.67%>Mercedes-Benz has substantial Chinese ownership>BMW Group: 0%>There are no major or reportable Chinese shareholders in BMW Group. Control of the company is strictly anchored in Germany.>Porsche AG: 0%>There are no reportable Chinese shareholders in Porsche AG. >Porsche's complex, interlocking corporate hierarchy is entirely governed by European entities.Interesting.
>>29037873Mercedes bros, our answer on the China question?
>>29037132>what can they do to regain y/o/ur trustim poor and won't buy anything newer than MY 2008 even if i had money, why the fuck would they want my trust?
honestly there's nothing they can do without abandoning a lot of regulatory requirements.
>>29038050>nothing they can doThey can get further in bed with China
>If we allow then to control our company, then we can influence them!What is Germany fucking thinking? It didn't work with Russia and the energy infrastructure, what makes them think it will work with China and manufacturing?
>>29038079Not just auto, Germany thinks opening its asshole will make friends. A never ending need to be victimized at both a micro and macro scale.https://finance.yahoo.com/news/over-700-german-funded-enterprises-103200996.html
>>29038094>pragmatic cooperationLOL lmao. Chinese are playing euro arrogance hard.
>>29037132rerelease the 2000 kompressor with celica engine and trans
>>29037737Convince others to dump their old car and get a tank as well
>>29038041New old parts “heritage program” or something
>>29037543You still won't buy it because that'll be 100k+ and you're poor.
>>29037132Nothing because i dont have new Mercedes money. I cope with the old cars.
