>miata be kidding me editionpost miats, talk about miats, tell me how nice my miats burgundy softtop looks, etcPrev: >>29032077
Here she is today, in the summertime.the top is from robbins, they didnt do the exact soft top I wanted (burgundy w/glass heated rear window) but if you email them they are happy to do one-off special orders for no additional cost - nice!
I do oddly like that top color on there. It's not perfect, it might look better on a dark grey, but it still looks good enough and is interesting.Pic, my old one so I don't spam my new NB too much.
Give me one reason not to debtmaxx a ND right now
>>29043090>debitmaxxbecause you can be like me and pick up a 100k mile nd1 for <$15k and other than being down 25hp and a lsd it'll be close enough :v
>>29043099Aren't the transmissions bad in those?
>>29043113i mean yeah but how hard are you beating on ita lot of them were replaced...nd2 isnt a bad idea either but those are still $18-25k in my market at least
>>29042991I like the burgundy on gray too actually. Looks classy
>>29042991Cute!
Does anyone wanna talk about Miata AC with me or nah?
>>29043349Any Miata besides the ND3 is like someone smashed their buttcheeks against your face and let it rip.ND3 or nothing.
>>29043352>ND3 or nothing>can't take a pound of boostEhh, I can't get into them. They look too different from the other miatas they fell for the angry headlights meem to make zoomer sales. Also fake back window on the RF, 1st instance of anything fake on a Miata and is a sign of things to come.>inb4 FOPG
>>29043113>Aren't the transmissions bad in those?its honestly insane to release a car with a manual trans and warranty to the public these days considering the fatherless epidemic. mazda basically sacrificed an entire generation of NDs to teach zoomers how to drive a manual transmission. keep in mind this is the only reason ND prices are a bit high when new compared to something like a brz, you dont get a lot of metal but you inadvertently pay for all the trannies they had to replace under warranty since zoomers cant shift.
>>29043445I love miatas, owned them 12+ years. But the ND1 transmission issues were Mazda's fault 100%. You can attribute it to whatever sociological or political ideas, but the reality is that people learn manual on lots of cars and this doesn't happen. And I doubt it was true noobs dealing with this, because it seems like it happened to people who know about cars, at least a little.To me, Mazda fucked that up hard and it's 100% their fault.This is a 2WD car (with AWD the transmission eats excess power because it can't spin the wheels, RWD can just spin the tires) with less than 200hp. There's no excuse for that shit.
>>29043445nd prices are in line with every other miata when they were new because miatas were always expensive mazda knows its a luxury product meant for boomers with disposable income buying it as a toy/2nd carback in the 1990s they still cost the equivalent of $30-35k when adjusted for inflation
>>29043452>Mazda fucked that up hard and it's 100% their fault.dont forget the nd was running around laguna seca for an entire year before it was released to the public, these drivers were dogging the fuck out of the tranny but somehow, magically, and for no reason at all, these tranneis are put into normid hands and start grenading themselves with the lower output motor. the manual transmission hasnt changed fundamentally for decades, mazda must have just forgot how to build them. >>29043453im saying the nd would be cheaper if they diddnt make buyers subsidize zoomies first manual transmission learner car.
>>29043456>the nd was running around laguna seca for an entire year before it was released to the public, these drivers were dogging the fuck out of the tranny but somehow, magically, and for no reason at all, these tranneis are put into normid hands and start grenading themselves with the lower output motor.So... why don't other mid-10s manual cars have those issues. And why did the issue go away when they updated it?It was Mazda's fault. I'm one of the biggest Miataposters on this board, but I'm not going to make shit up - they fucked up then they corrected it.
>>29043456They sacrificed durability on the tranny for weight savings, they shouldn't have done that. Simple as
>>29043457>why don't other mid-10s manual cars have those issues.if you can run 10s with a manual you can assume that they know how to shift gears.>>29043458lol what was the repair? also consider how it would look if they called their customers a bunch of fatherless niggers instead of saying they beefed up some bracket or something.
>>29043458It was cost, not weight savings. Stronger M/T components don't weigh much more than weak ones. We're talking in terms of grams or ounces.
>>29043459You know I meant mid-2010s you cheeky bastard you.
>>29043461>It was costyea they shoudl have made it more expensive, that way everyone grinding their gears to dust would uhh....uhhhhhhhhhhhh......something something warranty repair manual transmission learner car.
>>290434622010s had no issues because the target buyer was boomers and that generation knew how to operate a manual transmission. The target demographic for the ND was zoomer anime kids hence the lamborghini headlights and giant fast and furious grille
>>29043457>And why did the issue go away when they updated it?it took an entire year of production runs to teach non knowers how to drive a manual. they literally did NOTHING to fix the issue lol it was all publicity control
>>29043456>im saying the nd would be cheaper if they diddnt make buyers subsidize zoomies first manual transmission learner car.naw just look up how much na/nbs cost new when adjusted for inflationmazda knows its all boomers, the original NA 1.6s had waiting lists by rabid boomers paying over MSRP for one. same story with the ND. if anything the ND is the last call for boomers before they're too old to drive. >dont forget the nd was running around laguna seca for an entire year before it was released to the public, these drivers were dogging the fuck out of the tranny but somehow,to mazdas credit no other car company does this except maybe porsche where they actively try to make their cars stand up to motorsports useif it was toyota or honda they would tell you to fuck off for abusing the car
>>29043469>to mazdas credit no other car company does thisexactly, its a good company, they never really made a bad manual transmission, they only had bad buyers/owners.
>>29043468>The 2016-2018 Miata is the only car anyone has ever learned manual on because I don't like it.You drive automatic, don't you?
>>29043464Stronger gears wouldn't grind you retard
>>29043475yea just make the gears stronger, forget about the synchros! >>29043474Yea for me its the formula 1 paddle shifters, they shift so fast wow amazing its just like my video games
>>29043352retard>>29043360schizo>>29043458correct>>29043468incorrectjudgement rendered, carry on
when the haynes manual says "final drive" does it mean the diff?
anyone going to the gap? my miata isnt running good enough for a 12 hour drive so maybe next year
>>29043541Wrenchlet
>>29044327He's still wrong and seething a whole day later, wow
>>29044330Kys
>>29043697It should.What page are you seeing it on? I'm holding the Haynes in my hand right now. I scanned through the specs and the driveline chapter (ch 8) and saw no mention of final drive.
>>29043099This is my $8000 ND1I cope by telling myself if this was a NA/NB or literally any other car it would be good but its p. bad on the ND scale.
>>29044477Also sad I didn't notice this on the test drive. Its a recently replaced windshield too. Its exactly the size of a dime. Hoping its fixable if I go to safelite or an actual glass shop. I'm going to work on selling my 2016 STi before I give it any attention so I put it in the back of my gfs parents driveway so I can ignore it for a few weeks. I have too many cars between this, a 2004 350Z w/47k miles, and a 2016 STi with 78k miles (I'm listing for $20k)
>>29042983Would you rather have an NC miata with a RHT or the PRHT with all other things like condition, price etc etc being equal between the two.
>>29044552The PRHT is actually really nice, only problem is the added weight. Considering that the NC is already the heaviest of the Miats, I'd just lean into it.
>>29044477>>29044479This is literally nothing man, you got a steal >>29044552Take the prht and just lose some weight if you're not twinkmaxxing. But seriously the convenience of the prht is unparalleled. Yeah it's the "heaviest" but you're not gonna notice the extra 100 lbs realistically
>>29044338chapter 0•17 and 1•2 both say "final drive"
Do NAs or NBs drive better? Is it noticeable?
>>29044822Take this with a pinch of salt as I've only owned an NA, but I would assume the differences are almost negligible for 95% of owners. NA and NB are essentially the same car underneath, with the biggest difference being that the NB has a slightly stiffer chassis and marginally improved suspension geometry.NB's supposedly better build quality, which may fool your brain into thinking they drive better, but unless you're an extremely experienced competition driver pushing the car to the limit, I doubt you'd ever feel any notable difference in the two from a chassis perspective - the condition of the car in question will make a far larger difference. A freshly restored NA will drive *significantly* better than an NB on dry rotted bushes and blown out shocks, and vice versa.
>>29044552Soft top.Okay, okay... PRHT. I had a hardtop for my E30, and it took up a shit loads of room and was an absolute ball ache to put on and take off.
>>29044878>NB's supposedly better build quality>doubt.the very first NA produced, not the first VIN, like the very first NA ever made on the production line as a test of the line, was perfect and they didnt need to make any changed to their tooling. the 2nd NA produced was the first production car. shit was right from the first day.
I have a question for fellow ND owners. Did you let the dealership talk you into getting an extended warranty? One of the reasons I bought the car was that it's supposed to be an easier car to wrench on than most, and Mazda is one of the more reliable brands nowadays.I know the ND trannies have a bad reputation but I turned down the warranty because I heard it was limited to ND1 trannies and any issues would become apparent within the included 36k mile warranty anyway. But I am a little worried that I'll have problems with the electronic bullshit that I can't solve on my own one day. I wish the sport trim still came without the modern infotainment like in 2016. Look at this beauty. Supposedly it had a CD player where the glovebox is. >>29043090I debtmaxxed and have no regrets so far. I had excellent credit and put down a $7k down payment. They approved me for the 36 month/0% rate even though they weren't offering it on Miatas at the time. Also negotiated a -$2.5k discount after making them take off the bullshit ceramic coating charge. This was in 2024 so I just have a little over a year left until it's fully paid off. I think they were desperate to sell it to meet their monthly quota or because the car had been sitting on the lot for months.The car has a manufacture date in April and I purchased it in November. It's the Sport (base) trim and I think most people buying a new Miata are boomers willing to pay an extra $5k-$10k for the Club or GT trims. Anyway, if the dealer acts like your demands are insane, just walk out and find another dealership. You just need to find one place that's willing to take a loss on a car because they're desperate to get their monthly incentive from Mazda.
Speaking of ND trims, I used to be a little jealous of club/GT owners who got this cool interior door trim matching the exterior paint, but lately I've been thinking it must be too hot in the summer.
>>29044986Extended warranties are a scam
>>29045032That has generally been my mindset, but I wonder sometimes if the average modern car has become unreliable enough that this isn't true anymore.
>>29045046Cars are more reliable than they have ever been and do not let anyone tell you otherwise
>>29044820It looks like there's a difference between the UK and US Haynes.Picrel, mine calls it differential.The "final drive" in yours is the diff. Yours says final drive - 1.0L of gear oil.Mine says differential - 2.1 pints of gear oil.1 liter is 2.1 pints.Also, the way they're designed, you fill the diff (on level ground) to where the oil is level with the bottom of the fill hole, then you have the correct amount so you technically don't need to know the amount other than making sure you bought enough.
>>29044940gonna need a citation on that. not that I dont believe you, i just think thats cool.
>>29044878It is the small things that make the biggest difference though. The NB has the cabin reinforcement plate on the tunnel/back panel shelf area, I think only the late NAs got them. Plus VVT. Bigger brakes. A lot of the stuff transfers too.
>>29045109>It is the small things that make the biggest difference though.I agree to a point, but I really think it depends on your use case. The plate isn't going to change the basic fundamental driving characteristics of the car during a commute or even for your average driver on "muh twisties", even if it does decrease chassis deflection by a few percent, and the same goes for bigger brakes - nothing but a good thing in reality, but unless you're doing laps at a track or are pushing hard on a fairly steep mountain pass, you're probably not going to reach the thermal threshold of even 1.6 brakes; in fact, I'd argue that proper pad material is more important than a slightly larger caliper and disc. VVT is the only thing there that I'd say makes a *noticeable* difference, even in regular driving, as it gives a not insignificant bump in power below the curve over the non-VVT cars and could potentially be felt when joining traffic and pulling off from a stop or out of corners.All of this is not to say that the NB isn't overall better, because it objectively is better in almost every way from an engineering stand point, but if the question is "Like for like, is an NB worth choosing over the NA for those differences alone"? For the extra second or so those differences might net you on a track, no, I don't see that they are. The price, condition, and personal opinion on aesthetics hold far more weight when choosing NA or NB than the driving dynamics of the two.
>>29044822I've had both and honestly, at first I thought "it's the same car, NB is just an NA without popups" It's somewhat true but not really, steering and suspension geometry was definitely improved, it's much more stable at highway speeds and but still playful on normal roads. My NB was much more worn out than my NA too, so it's definitely a chassis thing.I went from NB1 to NA8 and I miss the NB at times. It just felt more grown up. I want to drive an NA6 at some point because I'm convinced the 1.8 was an afterthought.
>>29044327you should stick to tranny, it's a better catch-all to express your profound mental retardation and lack of a meaningful rebuttal
>>29045096>up to 2.1 pintscheers US haynes, i will!
>>29045213I must regretfully inform you that you need to pour some of your chosen beverage away, as a US pint is larger than a UK pint...
>>29045227>you need to pour some of your chosen beverage awayalready there!!!
>>29045198>lack of a meaningful rebuttalThe fuck do you want me to say, I already made my point.Mazda nd1 trannies for some reason exploded on contact when handled by fatherless auto-only faggots. Somehow, magically and for no reason at all after 1 year of not selling to the public and exclusively to spec Miata race teams who did the durability testing for them. Somehow after a century of manual trannies existing. Somehow after mating a in-house tranny to the weakest modern 2 liter the planet has ever seen.Somehow, after manufacturing one million+ trannies, miraculously they messed something up but the only people who were bitching were fatherless zoomer trans gender wrenchlet twinks with no father. So what did Mazda do, did they "beef" the gears up lol? They did something, I'll tell you what they didn't do, they didn't call their customers a bunch of fatherless wrenchlets, they did something. One little thing and it magically fixed everything. They overlooked this one fucking issue, but after the transgender kids noticed the problem they fixed it. What did they do?? It must have been a little bracket or something. Gram strategy isn't actually good at all! Kys btw.
>>29043090NE is about to come out and mog it to fuck and back with ev torque and a high rev 1.5 liter. Just wait, or maybe buy it to support mazda and then trader in for the NE.
>>29045306Holy fuck he's still seething
>>29045328Oh but dude 5 mis ago you were saying>>29045198>lack of a meaningful rebuttalI just gave you one and you're sticking to zingy 1 liners stinky little troll, you do have a dad right?
>>29044993It’s plastic, it doesn’t get hot it just scratches the second you forget to take off your watch when you get in the car.
>>29045096Cute post
>>29045335That wasn't me pal
>>29043466as one of the older gen zs, i couldnt afford an nd miata until recently. in 2016 i was a 17 year old in high school. kek
>>29043937i waited too long to decide and now i'm too lazy to figure out how far i have to go for lodging. my dad wants to go with me so i'm thinking of taking some time off in october to take him.
>>29045306I'm not that anon but this is pretty weak logic that depends on you not knowing how the world works. I mean, if you were right then Mazda would not accept the blame because taking that many warranty claims is costly. You also haven't really explained why ND1 Miatas specifically fell victim to fatherless wrenchlets. I know you think it's the target audience being younger, but why didn't this happen with zoomers buying the ND2 or ND3 as their first manual transmission?Do you think people stopped learning to drive manual since then? What about other manual cars with younger fans like the GT86/FRS/GR86/BRZ? I'm willing to bet that GR86 owners skew much younger than ND Miatas.
>>29045408Insurance rates along prove your last sentence correct
>>29045306mazda tech here, believe me or don't believe me but transmission failures still come in on nd2/nd3 albeit at a reduced rate because of a dual mass flywheel and some it's just not a solid transmission to abuse like all the other NC/NB/NA boxes. mazda knew something wasn't right because it's undergone 5 revisions until they finally just left it alone because the dual mass flywheel fixes most of the shock sent to the trans>Version 2:- 1ST GEAR (Only for 2.0 litre engine), M602-17-271, used from SEPTEMBER 5th, 2016 Production.- 2ND - 3RD GEAR, M601-17-305A, from July 6th to Sept 6th, M601-17-305B, used from SEPTEMBER 6th 2016.- 3RD GEAR, M601-17-230A, from July 6th to Sept 6th, M601-17-230B, used from SEPTEMBER 6th 2016.- GEAR REVERSE (Only for 2.0 litre), M602-17-281, used from SEPTEMBER 5th, 2016 Production.- GEAR REVERSE IDLE (Only for 2.0 litre), M602-17-310 , used from SEPTEMBER 5th, 2016 Production.- COUNTERSHAFT GEAR (A.K.A CLUSTER GEAR), M601-17-301C, used from August 1st, 2016 UP TO April 3rd, 2017 Production.>Version 3: INSTALLED FROM April 3rd, 2017 VEHICLE PRODUCTION LINE.- SECOND GEAR, M601-17-251A, used from April 3rd, 2017 Production.- COUNTERSHAFT GEAR (A.K.A CLUSTER GEAR), M601-17-301D, used from April 3rd, 2017.>Version 4: INSTALLED FROM November 1st, 2017 VEHICLE PRODUCTION LINE.- CLUTCH HUB SET 1ST AND 2ND GEAR, M601-17-260A, used from November 1st, 2017.- SLEEVE CLUTCH HUB SET 1ST AND 2ND GEAR, M601-17-262A, used from November 1st 2017>Version 5: INSTALLED FROM June 18, 2018 VEHICLE PRODUCTION LINE.3RD GEAR, M601-17-230B supersedes to M601-17-230C, used from June 18, 2018
>>29045494and some engine calibration stuff*forgot to finish my thoughts
>>29045408>I mean, if you were right then Mazda would not accept the blame because taking that many warranty claims is costly.You're doubly right there, if you actually read the TSB for the transmission issues in 2016 cars, the fix is an entirely new/remanned transmission (plus a small ECU change). They change the configuration of 2nd and 3rd, so it's not a quick bracket or shim or anything like that. There's no way in hell Mazda would pay for thousands of transmissions if there wasn't a real problem.
>new super troopers movieRadio, we're in high-speed pursuit of a white Miata heading southbound on 294
>>29045520There's only one thing that can catch a runaway Miata
do you guys ever feel like going for a drive but nothing is open because it's really late and you feel silly driving aimlessly
>>29045494how do i find out which one is in my 2016 nd it was replaced in october 2018 @ 29k miles according to the carfax
>>29045610Yeah every night, sometimes I stare at google maps hoping I'll find somewhere interesting to go in my gay soulless linkedin city that wasn't there before
>>29045617Hey me too. Anything fun is an hour away so I'm cursed and just stay home
>>29045617>gay soulless linkedin citykek. that's a good way to put it.
>>29045494This is the post I was kinda looking for >>29045408>weak logic that depends on you not knowing how the world works.You can't operate a manual transmission, you never will be able to because Dad wasn't around. Thank Mazda for sacrificing an entire generation of NDs to train you dweebs.
>>29045679
>>29045679I think a zoomer fucked this guy's wife or something
>>29045684>>29045685Im just sayin'
>>29045685I think he's just a new resident /mg/ schizo along with the RF fake window guy
>>29045885Don't forget about the FOPG!
I hope to become a notorious schizo on a 4chan general one day. There are people who haven't posted on /vg/ in several years that people still talk about like they're trading ghost stories. One day I will die and nobody will remember me, but stories of those schizos will live on forever.
>>29045885I come from Mt.net before they got bought out by internet brands or whatever the fuck that company is
>>29046104I wont, I couldn't
>>29046162>I hope to become a notorious schizo on a 4chan general one day.Good luck, let me know if I can help
In the previous thread I mentioned that my Miata runs rich. Someone said "CIA"I don't have one, only air box delete. What do I look at?
>>29046363What year? It it has EGR it could have an EGR valve stuck open.Intake wouldn't cause rich anyway. Unless... When you did your airbox delete, you left the MAF sensor in the intake piping and unmodified, right?Any check engine light codes?
>>290463751.8 swapNa6No egr.Intake unmodified otherwise.Working on standalone ecu this fall, that'll probably solve it. Seeing what I can do before that
>>29046380I'm guessing the primary O2 sensor is dying but I don't know the history of the car and swap.How do you know it's running rich, btw? A gauge? If so did you just install the gauge or has it been fine and only recently started going rich?
>>29046363>runs rich.I doubt you have any idea what your afrs are since you don't have a gauge you're just going by what some boomer told you
>Be me>skeletal broke poorfag>fram goes out of business so no more wal mart oil filtersI can't keep this up bros
Any of you fags go to miatas at the gap? this old japaneese MF with a ND i know went there but i was working and i couldnt come does anyone have pics? i just want to see miata frens
>>29046415If you're paying $9 / filter, you might as well go with the best one. Bosch 3323 .
>>29046425which cunt is it made in though? these cans are made in japan theres japaneese scripture all over the box and a seal around the face of the filter. ive never really given a fuck about the oil filter till i opened these.
>>29046444Well well, it turns out Bosch switched to Mexico for oil filters in the last few years. Good to know, bad to hear. And it looks like quality has decreased according to some random net posters. Bummer, I'll have to look up more recent comparisons and find a new winner.I'm a weeb but kana and kanji all over an oil filter does nothing for me.
>>29046469>I'm a weeb but kana and kanji all over an oil filter does nothing for me.what about the seal on the face?
>>29046395no gaugegetting 20mpglots of pops on decel. didnt look at plugs yetidk if i ever replaced the o2 sensor, i'll run it through a sonic bath, that helped 0420 codes in the past
Anon that was looking to buy a blue NA, if you recall from last thread. I've been to see 4 miatas over the past 2 weeks now. All of them have been utterly boned.>blue NA hard top - wrecked body/suspension by 45 y/o hooner>black NB - seller used old pictures and never said so, actual car had awful curb rash on all wheels and had been in a rear end collision>red NA - sparkles in oil, rusted out rockers that weren't disclosed>white NA - no papersI don't mind fixing up a old car but holy fuck, why do people just lie on car listings now? You really think I'm not going to notice the obvious damage you never mentioned, and pay you the full asking price?I kinda regret selling my old red 91, still keeping an eye out on the market but I'm looking at other vehicles like Corvettes too. Almost at the point of debtmaxxing a ND.
do the club seats have good lumbar support?what bout the gt?this affects my decision on whether ill ever buy an nd :(
>>29046752Not really, the seat design is pretty much a hammock on the GT. Comfy, but no lumbar support. Surely you could just buy one of those little Velcro pillows or something right?
>>29046751NAs are way overvalued for what they are. I'd try to find a nice NC or cheaper ND, they're both great cars.
>>29046886I'm only really in to neo classic and classics for a summer car. I know NAs especially are highly over valued, which is why I'm broadening my horizons a bit. I really shouldn't have sold my old NA, shit was clean as fuck.
>>29046415Are there not a few different filter brands where you live? I'm an ausfag and I can go down to the local Supercheap Auto and pick from five different filters that they'll have on the shelf, not even talking about ordered in.
>>29046444I love OEM/Made in Japan as much as the next guy but oil filters are pretty basic engineering and I doubt that one paper filter is dramatically different from the other (except shorter length of filter paper in the budget category). Synth media is a different discussion, OEM doesn't use synthetic though right?
>>29046751Was the oil so bedazzled it showed on the dipstick?
>>29046751>>blue NA hard top - wrecked body/suspension by 45 y/o hoonerShould have been able to tell from pics and language used. >>black NB - seller used old pictures and never said so, actual car had awful curb rash on all wheels and had been in a rear end collisionStandard>>red NA - sparkles in oil, rusted out rockers that weren't disclosedStandard>>white NA - no papersShould have confirmed he has a title before leaving the house.
>>29047023I dont think you understand my post. Each seller actively lied about the condition. Like for the blue hard top NA, it was lowered in the pics. Upon arrival he had installed 2 inch spacers sticking the wheels out far beyond the body that had wrecked the fenders.>>29046961Yup. Ive gone to see cars and bikes where you can feel grit inbetween your fingers but this shit was like a glitter gel pen. Comically bad.
>>29047067Not that anon but just a word of warning a clean NA/NB is gonna be at least 5-6k nowadays3-4k for higher mileage but reasonably straight, 1-3k for a turd
>>29046417Invasion! Miatas at the Geso.
did my first mod to my miata today, feels good
>>29046885damn, the GT's are a hammock as well? At least the club is recaros, right?and yea...those pillows are OK...but I've found integrated lumbar support to be a tad better. those things are so hit or miss. some people add a balloon with a pump into the seat and it looks super easy but still a minor pain.
>>29047790What was it
>>29043461the NC transmission, which is much more robust than the ND's, is 21kg heavier. Mazda never really fixed the ND transmission, they just put a bandaid on it in the form of the dual mass flywheel and called it a day, when they should have just reverted to the NC tranny. But then they would have had to deal with retards screaming that the car is pigfat. Can't win
>>29047826LED dome light
>>29047830I... I really don't want to shit on your parade, but is changing a light bulb really a "mod"...?
>>29048042Its a big deal, I can see really well in the car now. Ppl should care.
Any other miata tuners (people who mod miatas) in this thread?
>>29048055
Does anyone wanna talk about having good AC?
What do you guys make of this car history?https://www.carfax.com/vehiclehistory/ar20/2KVa1H8k29hIYYQ5jEwmGRRhaWOghS91p9ftqdYSOEXvibvow7UuR_CWHlcfIcZCPT-lj39qNb7RcyXMNXUSJ9j_Lnl-oZbZ_wE
i'm at MATG and it's official, women have infected this hobby tenfold men can't even have cars as a hobby anymore anons
>>29048130Try some pussy for once anon. It’s pretty nice.
>>29048081None of that shit means anything, go over there, do a compression test, and feel out the tranny by shifting really fast when it's warmed up. If it puts out low numbers and grinds gears it's a 1,000$ offer. If it's shiny and shifts good with good numbers, give the man full asking price since it'll be worth it.
>>29048130Pretty sure women are the main buyers of new miatas in the US, post pics of the Miatas! I wanna seee
>>29048134
>>29048133It’s at a dealership so compression test isn’t going to happen. I will be lucky to get photos of the underbody to look for corrosion. Luckily I will be about an hour drive from that dealership on Monday so I plan on going to see it in person assuming it hasn’t sold. These cars don’t last more than a few days.
>>29048130Man I should've gone but I'm not confident in my driving yet
>>29048138>miata frenslooks fun id shit myself if i saw that many maits
>>29048130>women are buying the car that was designed to appeal to womenWoe is us...
>>29048138Lmk if you find any Limited Editions with a red interior. Take pics of the seatbelt mount. I'm missing the covers on mine. Curisie what they look like
>Miatas within 300 miles of you>15k nb in mid condition>ran through 1.6 na for 7k>riced and trashed nb for 5kIt's over
>>29048350NB fags becoming more delusional every day, don't they know nbs suck!?
>>29048352I’ve been waiting for people to realize that the NC is actually the best Miata and the NB is the worst.
>>29048379That's already have thoughbeit clean NCs are the same as a nd1
>>29048352NB is a better car in terms of handling and power. They're cheaper for nice examples too, no meme headlight tax.
went crazy at aliexpress with chinkshit for the new nd1 not shown are $15 poly door bushings (pqy from amazon)
>>29046417make a facebook account and join the miata groupspeople always post lots of pics there>>29047830>>29048055it was probably the 2nd or 3rd thing i did but mine burnt out like a year after i bought it new. >>29048074i've only done basic bitch mods
>The drift king himself did a stock drift car comparison in the '00s.NC, NB, S2000, MR-S, and RX-8.NB got the best rating of all, 9.5.He gave the NC a 3 lol, worst rating of the group.
>>29048496Link:https://youtu.be/c8BTTwsodZ0?si=i57YjI5wuhX5cORV
>>29048130the women at MATG are cool, it's the casual owners I have a problem with. they don't even wave back. but at the end of the day I know I'm being unreasonable because it's just a cute car and normal people don't make their car their personality. i'm happy that they help keep it financially viable for mazda to continue producing in this shitty auto market.
>>29048141>It’s at a dealership so compression test isn’t going to happenyou can ask them to let you take it to an independent mechanic for a pre-purchase inspection. then pay extra for them to do a compression test or just do it yourself before returning it kek. >>29048428post reviews of everything plsi wish i had the NC/ND1 car keys. i fucking hate that they put the buttons on the sides now. dumbest thing i've ever seen in my life.
re: ND1 trannyIs it only the US market that had issues? I read a theory on an old thread that the US market ND1 having a 2.0L engine is the reason there were problems, because the light-weight tranny was designed to support the original 1.5L engine.
>>29048138>normies, zoomers, and social media hypebeastsI'd immediately talk to the guy on the far right in that pic. Burn one up before hitting the corners blasting Slayer!
>>29048141>I will be lucky to get photos of the underbody to look for corrosion.they can put it on a lift but i wouldnt put it past them telling you to fuck off for a compression test (unnecessary its a 60k mile 2013 miata)corrosion is a bigger issue than anything engine related all that carfax tells me is whoever owned it DIY'd everything or had a private shop do it when it was in ND
>>29048513>ND1 tranny>Is it only the US market that had issues? IYea but it had nothing to do with he 150hp 2.0 liter being installed, we found out the issue was a bunch of fatherless wrenchlets not knowing how to shift. This is why people overseas didn't have any issues..
>>29048513Ignore the schizo. For the most part it is only the US that had issues, exactly for that reason. The trans wasn't designed to handle much more than 150hp, which the 2.0l has by default. That also means that anybody tuning the 1.5 would have ran into the same issues, so euro market still had some problems, just not as many.
>>29048615rude!
>>29048379how is the NB worse than the NA? don't say headlights or style because you know that's subjective
>>29048636>how is the NB worse than the NA?VVT cam phaser engines are ugly as fuck
>>29048234Which mount?
>>29048730Take more pics of everything!!!
>>29048636>how is the NB worse than the NA?Door handles are all wrong, to appease normie women they got ride of the CUTE 1 finger door handles that were metal and replaced it with a boring regular handle. At least its not as bad as NC or and where they used fridge door handles.
>>29048730seatbelts by the shoulder area
>>29048736NC or ND
Cant wait for the new high revving 1.3 liter (4cyl) miata to come out with hybrid monster torque assist. It will be the first car i buy new. Cant wait to shift at 8k and get great MPG.
>>29048641My NB doesn't have vvt. '99-00 have the BP-4W which is the "ideal" NA/NB engine for race builds. Solid liters too, so no annoying HLA tick.Also that's a strange reason to give.
>>29048744>Also that's a strange reason to give.you dont just pop the hood and look at the motor?
>>29048636For me, it's the lack of airbags. RHD NA's didn't have them, so it allows me to swap in a sports wheel. See:>>29048730
>>29048745Oh, I do. On my NA I removed the carbon canister, cruise control, and windshield spray system just to make the bay look nicer. I cleaned it meticulously with household disinfecting wipes, picrel best res pic of it I could find quickly.I wouldn't let some minor detail about under-hood appearance determine which car I buy, that's just silly.
>>29048730>spherical shift knob
>>29048752>I wouldn't let some minor detail about under-hood appearance determine which car I buy, that's just silly.hahah yea thats just crazy
>>29048752Oh yeah, polished the heatshield for like 3 hours with picrel.It was a flood damaged hurricane Katrina car and the bottom half of the engine was caked in southern clay when I got it. Had to chisel the mud out to see the crank pulley, you wouldn't have known it just 2 years later.I always polish exhaust tips and heat shields with this stuff, brown with a layer of corrosion to shiny chrome finish makes a difference.
>>29048757based miata rescuer and healer
>>29048730Jesus, it's like being assaulted by a retro future 1950's diner.
>waiting on ETFE zip ties so i can secure my fuel pump to the metal bracketfrustrating how every little thing delays finishing a job.
>>29048762Thanks, it was fun. Other than the underside and engine being caked in mud and some interior mold... it really just needed a water pump.It's >>29042983 , that pic was probably '13-'15Had it '07-'19, 280+k miles. All it takes is one Stacey on her cell phone and... it's gone. It lived a good life.
>>29048770>It's >>29042983 (OP) , that pic was probably '13-'15Meant to reference, >>29042992 clearly. Fuck I miss that car. My NB is definitely faster at least and sounds better.
>>29048641Sounds like a load of cope from someone who makes less power
>>29048774That's what it looked like to me.It is slightly uglier (picrel), but not a big deal.
>>29048775I, for one, like my power bulge
Was hoping to pick up a FM turbo kit but they're perpetually out of stock. Any other kits worth snagging? In NA.
>>29048777Can you find the piping and intercooler used somewhere and put on a new wu-tang war-whistle?People used to sell used FM kits now and then on the miata forum classifieds.Might be better than going with a random chinese ebay kit or something that's $15k.
>>29048776I don't blame you. More power is more power. >VVT just kicked in, yo.
>>29048738Mine just has the black cover.
>>29048770>All it takes is one Stacey on her cell phone and... it's gone. It lived a good life.delete this
>>29048806Only got $900 too, despite full coverage. I had spent so much time and money on it, had it 11 years and actually didn't plan to sell it. Happened to my last car, too, uninsured 16 year old. Now when I'm at red lights and a car is approaching too quickly I shiver a little.Yeah, life is cruel sometimes, but miata smile live forever.
>>29048818>Only got $900 tooJfc I can't wait to take this loss I deserve it
>>29048797Ah I'm missing the wrap around and the black cover
>>29048777kraken sells a decent kit that's everything but the ecu and o2-meter. theyre known to have the best manifolds as well.
Real Miata nigga hours
>>29048833Appears the American version had the black caps too.
>>29048074Just tuned my AC. Shit is so cash.
>>29048933upgraded to a ND condenser???
Any ideas what the smallest wheels I can fit on an ND2 are? It's a GT if it matters. I feel like the stock wheels are way too big, and stock tires don't have nearly enough sidewall.
>>29048767Just go stainless like I did.
>>29048969I'm reading that only some 15"s work if you have the smallest ND brakes but most 16"s work. There's width and offset it take into consideration. 4x100 isn't very common anymore, find a wheel you want and look it up to see if others have it fit without modification.It's only an inch diameter down (I assume you have 17"s), it won't make a huge difference. You'd best be rolling in money for that to be worth your while.
>>2904896915" on the 1.5, 16" on the 2.0. You may be able to go smaller by trimming the caliper, like on this big brake NB on 14".
>>29043090It's a car you can buy brand new for like 30k Euro. How the fuck are you going into debt for that?
Used prices for semi recent MX-5 are fucked in my country. Buying brand new for a little more is a better deal here. Is the 2.0L version no longer on sale?
>>29049189What's chump change to you may not apply to everyone equally.
>>29049193If 30k wasn't chump change for me, I wouldn't bother with enthusiast cars. I would stick to some cheap diesel that does all my chores for me.
>>29049191GOD I FUCKING HATE EU SO MUCH. They banned the 2.0L engine here. It's either buying used or buying the less performant 1.5L version. Looks like I'm going to have to pay like a pig for a used car anyways. Likely these will not depreciate anyways since any more powerful engine will most likely be a cucked hybrid version with fake performance.
>>29048636NB interior is surprisingly worse. >fabric not as nice>carpet isn't the nice loop pile>awful cup holder arrangement, inside center console... why even have one at all>thicker door cards dig into your cabin spaceNB is a better handling car tho, even if minor
>>29049240NB2 center console says hello.
Anyone ever got quick jacks for working under their miat? It seems like a good idea but then I see the pics and it looks hardly better/higher than jacking up the car and putting it on stands. And it costs as much as an atlas overhead lift.
Missed someone selling the clubsport nc suspension yesterday for $1300 on Facebook kms
I put my deposit down. Picking it up next weekend
>>29049296
>>29049300
>>29049296Beautiful
>>29049303
>>29049240Don't say anything bad about nbs, final warning
>>29049303Wow there's so much room for activities
>>29049364Seriously, I wonder if they had an NC Mazdaspeed in mind during development and left all that space for their turbo and just didn't end up doing one.
>>29049378they must have considered it since that engine came turbo in ford focus and i think the mondeo/fusion. only shit that looks like a bit of a pain is the ABS module and the lines but you could probably relocate it with some new custom hardlines.
>>29049296>>29049303supremely based, get a proper one piece tower brace in there tho
>>29049453>get a proper one piece tower brace in there thoThere's no point, better to do basic maintenance like replacing that coolant reservoir
>>29049458I have budget for both.
>>29049453It won't do anything
After over 2 months of searching, I found the one, and bought my second Miata. The good>1 owner>10th anniversary wheels (is not a anniversary car sadly, has black interior)>paint matched hard top>low-ish miles>mechanically and electrically perfect, tested engine/electrics, inspected everything else>$4k usd>mint interior, minus some expected wear on drivers seat and shift knobThe bad>no AC>rockers had rust at some point, and whoever fixed it did a poor fix, friend owns a body shop and will repair properly over the winter>rock chips on front bumper>small exhaust leak by the catThey're still out there, lads. I got so worn down seeing all of these hooned and over priced examples. Going to enjoy her for the summer and make her sparkle over the winter.
>>29049644>>no ACeasy fix, we have MAITA AC DAD here to help us all the time. t. NB ac enjoyer thanks to MIATA AC DAD
>>29049644>>$4k usdCars are basically free in the US. This kind of money might get you a bike in Europe.
>>29049644What a steal, honestly a little jealous. If that's a mousetrap bar, take it off before you drive the car another inch.
>>29049647Except NA/NB Miatas and their hardtops, you can hardly give them away in the UK/Europe meanwhile US prices are rising. That 4k NB2 is definitely the exception and not the rule.
>>29049647He found a really rare deal, the fucking roof itself goes for 2k here
>>29049651>Except NA/NB Miatas and their hardtops, you can hardly give them away in the UK/Europe
>>29049644Oh I forgot, the antenna doesn't extend but idgaf about that.>>29049646I'm debating between between installing AC or just not running the hard top. My first miata was a NA6 without AC but no hard top and that was fine. On the drive home I quickly realized that no ac + hard top is a wful combo.>>29049647I am in leaf land, I merely translated the price to USD cus it's mostly americans here.>>29049649It was listed for 14 whole hours. I jumped on that shit quick lmao. Boomers respond very well to "I will show up with a wad of cash">>29049651>>29049653Don't I know it. I am tempted to sell the hard top, but breaking up a factory pair does seem like a sin to me.
>>29049669>but breaking up a factory pair does seem like a sin to me.dont do that, replace the condenser with a condenser off a ND and just charge it back up its all it needs probably.
>>29049669>original radioIf you take that out, I will skull fuck you and call you naughty names.
>>29049671It's not a AC car. No button.
>>29049674CUTE HOT BOXX
>>29049189Debtmaxxing implies taking on debt even if you could pay it off.
>>29049673I would never.
>>29049644>>29049669Nice dude, I just got an NB for the same price this January (also no A/C and antenna doesn't work).Sounds like it's in decent shape, is in a cool color, and it's got a nice hardtop.I notice some minor things, but hey, it's a 4k miata! Definitely take the style bar off if it's not a real welded-in race-approved bar. Depending on where the exhaust leak is you can patch it yourself for like $10.Congrats.
>>29049651I have enough credit card points to fly to UK for free.It's $100 to fly back with freight size luggage.Any good deals on hardtops?
>>29050028nta, but it depends. You can get a ropey one for a round 3 to 400, with nicer ones starting at roughly 6 to 700-ish.
>>29050036Why the hell are they hovering around 2k all day in muttlantis then?
>>29050037Because fuck you
>>29050038God's divine punishment against the amerisharts
>>29050040And yet, if you moved here you would never go back.
>>29050044Yeah hard to move away when you've been shot to death
>>29045032Basically this. Actuaries have a good estimate of the failure rates and associated costs, then price the warranty at a profit. There is a chance you come out ahead in a specific case, but on average they're a bad deal.
>>29050061based and true, I was shot to death before I could finish writi
Why should I have a Miata over a Cappuccino anons? (part availability isn't a concern)
>>29051638>what is this, a car for ants?
>>29051638Miatas are overpriced for what they are, kei cars are ludicrously overpriced for what they are (in NA at least). Also wheels on the wrong side.
>>29051642NTA but shifting with the left hand is infinitely superior to shifting with the right, I went out of my way to import just for the RHD.
>>29051642>Miatas are overpriced for what they areWhat would be more fitting with value then? Bearing in mind the Cappuccinos charm is priceless
>>29051638>Why should I have a Miata over a CappuccinoWhen both cars are arguably toys, the only reason you should choose X over Y is personal preference - drive both and choose whichever makes you smile more.
>>29043360>fake window>sign of things to comeThey can't work magic, they had to hide the roof mechanism somehow.
>>29051659People are listing NAs for 10k when they're 30 year old entry level cars made in the millions. Still believe anything above 5k for a nice one is nuts
>>29051642>Miatas are overpriced for what they areJust say that you dont like it. What kind of car enthusiast thinks like an accountant.
>>29051855I am on my 3rd miata bro lol
>>29051855While I don't agree completely , some miatas are overpriced, (nc, nd) the na is for sure overpriced and the na is getting there.Also as someone looking for a Honda fit, those are very overpriced online. Should be cheaper than what I'm seeing
>>29052048Honda fits are overpriced? What they going for? I've been driving a 2015 one I bought new
>>29052053I'm seeing second generation honda fits with near 200,000 miles going for $6,000 to $7,000
>>29052061bro wtf? why? they're not even particuarly fun to drive, absolute appliance car
>>29052061>>29052063The miata is cheap because people don't want to be seen by randos driving a car that's considered "gay" by normies.Fits are more overpriced. It's a FWD ecobox with maccas and torsion beam rear. But people pay out the ass for them. Parts for them are more expensive, too. Same with a lot of Hondas for some reason.Miatas are dbl-wishbone on all 4 and RWD, but I got a 100% rust-free 130k mile one for $4k flat this year. A lot of people really don't want to be seen in a miata, it keeps prices relatively low for what it is.
>>29052063>>29052069They have an enthusiast following, people say they're "basically go karts", and memes for how much stuff they can carry.I'm in it for the practically and because of its size to fitting stuff ratio. At this point I'm considering getting a crv/hrv with awd (for way cheaper) because while I'll miss out on slightly better city mpg and smallness for the city parking, it is absolutely not worth paying a big fucking tax on something like that especially when it's going to be my beater
>>29052072Also I'm considering a Toyota matrix/Pontiac vibe maybe
>>29052072Don't get me wrong, I like the Fit. It's a solid, reliable everyman's car but is also light and simple enough to be a little fun (and it was a common car for engine swaps for a while). They are fairly expensive for what they are. Everyone from grandmas to weebs want them.But, it's FWD. The whole reason the miata is so good is based around the rwd, suspension, and weight. If you wanted a miata, a fit will not suffice.
>>29052072>like go kartsFuck no. They're very top heavy with small wheels, immense feeling of tipping over if you dare take a corner at speed like in a miata. You get blown across the road in high winds too.>memes for how much stuff they can carryThis is true. I've moved a lot of furniture in my fit.They're cheap on gas though, or at least mine is. Nothing wrong with it in 80k apart from a paint recall that got fixed for free.>t. 2015 honda fit owner since brand new
>>29052075>>29052076Yeah I absolutely never bought into the go kart stuff, I have a Miata anyway so it won't compare. I like the fit as well but would like the market to reflect the reality like you guys are describing.
>>29052079I love when people describe an understeery FWD as "driving like a go-kart." That really does it for me xD.Yeah the Fit's great for a commuter box. Probably does better than the 17-22 mpg I get in my NB. I'm kind of a loner so a miata holds all I ever have needed it to in my 12 years of having them. But I do understand people need to carry passengers and stuff on occasion, the Fit is good for that. You can fit more in a fit than you can in the back seat of a big cab truck.
>>29052061Damn I got one with 120k for $5k in 2018. Manual Sport first gen
>see s2000 fag>"hey nice miata!"
>>29052143
>>29052147i have a miata
>>29052155sure thing, frogposter
Anyone else ITT cute and shiny?
>nobody cares HATE IT!
>>29051642>Also wheels on the wrong side.if the mailman can do it why can't i
>>29051855>What kind of car enthusiast thinks like an accountanttbf if you can't pick between multiple cars it helps to figure out which would be the most fiscally responsibile option
>>29050028what credit card do you use? I've been thinking of getting a new card for travel points because I don't like my amex. >>29051642>>29051659>>29051733>>29051855>>29052048>>29052053>>29052061>>29052069>>29052117basically every used car in the US has been overpriced since the chip shortage inflated things ~2020. cars don't depreciate like they used to and this is the new normal for the foreseeable future. if you're in the market for a car right now you're unironically better off just taking your budget and using it as the down payment on a new car (assuming you have good credit).
>>29052662>if you're in the market for a car right now you're unironically better off just taking your budget and using it as the down payment on a new car (assuming you have good credit).But I can't buy a brand new 1996 Mazda Miata M-Edition
>>29052664if you're after something specific like that you'll have to deal with current prices or wait forever for a unicorn deal
>>29052554That is quite nice. I've always thought those wheels are too big, but they are a key part of the Mazdaspeed version.
>>29052554Me!
>>29052996Thanks for replying to me anon, feels good. Yea the wheels are bad but they're special so I have to keep them on there. This Miata has to last untill I die.>>29053030>transformers roof and big block 2000cc editonWow very shiny
I wonder if the cd palyer works in my 20 year old NB, i dont want to hurt the radio by trying to shove a cd in there but i really wanna basically travel back in time and relive my childhood by utilizing CDs instead of youtube and aux cord hacks.
>>29053425Dude that’s bullshit. Just stick a CD in there, if it’s broken, it’s broken - if it works, it works.Also, I was driving in the early 00s and I would have loved an AUX option.I bought a CD DVD burner earlier this year because I feel like they won’t be around much longer. Still haven’t used it, only 1 of 6 speakers works in my car so I uh.. live without. At least the head unit works fully. Some dipshit previous owner fucked the wiring behind the dash and I can’t be assed to fix it.
>>29053432rate my playlist bro
>>29053472As an Alabama man I am not allowed to utter a bad word about Hank Williams. I used to live within 5 miles of his old lake house and there’s a restaurant there named Kowaliga after Hank’s song, wooden Indian and all. I’ve been to his museum.I’m more into his son’s junk but he’s alright with me. Anyway I’m on the way to getting whiskey bent and he’ll bound.
>>29053478>Anyway I’m on the way to getting whiskey bent and he’ll bound.im going back in time rn
Look at this Honda fit fuck up
>>29053478it ate my cd and shit itself, i am not having fun
>>29053511Well, you're no worse off than you were before. Now you know.
