The four door mustang Mach 4 will be released in 2029Likely will have the same powertrain options as the base mustang>4 cyl, 10spd auto>8 cyl, 10 spd auto>8 cyl, 6 spd manualIs this the perfect car for when I stop being a KHHV chudcel and finally have a wife and kids? Currently have a Camaro SS (2 doors)
>>29047660Should have just let Lincoln have it, change the face a bit and called it continental. It’s a welcome addition but would better fit there.
>>29047666> Should have just let Lincoln have itWhy not both? Hopefully they come out with a premium option with lincolnJust like chevy seems to be making a 4 door camaro, and potentially a buick with the same powertrain. And of course cadillac gets the blackwing.
>>29047666There's probably going to be a Lincoln version too.Also GM is now making new rear drive gasoline Buick and Camaro sedans built off the CT5 architecture because sedans are cool again now that everyone drives egg shit.
>>29047675>sedans are cool againEhhh let's be honest, these are gonna still sell like shit. But guess what sells even worse than sedans? Coupes.
>>29047660>4 cyl, 10spd auto
yikes
guy who never has and never will ever buy a mustang: i can't believe they're ruining the mustang by making a sedan version
>>29047755guy with a V6 mustang: I am a faggot
>>29047755Ignore those chuds
>>29047660Why would they not just call it the Falcon?
>>29047676>Ehhh let's be honest, these are gonna still sell like shit.Maybe in flyover shit holes. Sedans still outsell trucks and suvs in California.
>>29047789>best selling car in california>Model Y (Crossover)can't wait for californians to keep the sedan alive.
>>29047789California is a shithole though.
>>29047660The battle will be legendary.
Ford really is in its death throes, innit?
>>29047679I have this likely same setup in the ranger for my work truck, basically the first 20% of the gas pedal doesn't move the truck at all, 30% gets you moving like a snail at 2k rpm, then pressing 50% it starts triggering boost and doing something. Absolutely awful to drive compared to my maverick hybrid, if I press the pedal 30% in that thing I'm going faster than everyone in traffic pretty quickly
>>29047660It looks fine but I miss 3 box styling on sedans. It's better for visibility and u get more headroom. Something understated and less try hard about it too than when they try to make it look like a coupe. They could've made it like a homage to the 65 hard top styling that might've worked.
>>29047660Wow the wheels and car looks exactly like every other modern car. So ugly
>>29047660I'm tired of Ford calling everything a Mustang. Call it a Thunderbird or a Falcon or something new, not everything needs to be a Mustang.
>>29047907You get better interior room in smaller sedans with a liftback and fold down seats. It ends up being a hatchback with a lot of slope on the hatch which is handy. Old school 3 box with a trunk is great; but its better for a big full size sedan like a Crown Vic.
>>29047889Ford and GM both.Apparently GM CEO is. woman who seems hell bent on destroying it from the inside
>>29047660Why not call it Falcon?
>>29048000Same reason prices end with .99
>>29048000You want it to be called the Ford Mustang Falcon?
>>29047660This is the new age crown Vic that they really shouldn't have stopped selling. Ford should have killed the taurus, fusion, and fiesta to keep a rwd sedan with multiple engine options while keeping the focus. >>29047679Yeah, it will be the poverty spec like the ecoboost mustang is. They might slightly uptune it to make the power necessary for a sedan>>29047755They already ruined the mustang with the mustang 2 being an actual Ford pinto. At least they actually sell a v8 coupe unlike dodge
>>29048000You have to understand the suits of companies are the most normie of normie who don't understand or like cars. They see a name that sold well before and try to attach it to everything vaguely resembling it.
>>29048262No? Just Ford Falcon. Then make another sedan on the same platform that's a foot longer and call it Taurus.
>>29048298More than 1 sedan is a no go unless they can make it cheaper than Kia. This Mach 4 is going to be the great test to see if the market wants it
>>29048290>>29048298Ford has wanted Mustang to be a subbrand for a very long time. They stopped putting the Ford logos on Mustangs 20 years ago. Part of the plan for the S550 was to introduce other models with the Mustang name. For a very long time they've been planning on a Mustang sedan, an electric Mustang, an offroad Mustang... The Mach E was only the first in the family. So it will be joined by the Mach 4 and the Raptor.
The fact that people are so hung up on names proves that this board is filled with actual broke 80 IQ retards whose mindset consists of just contrarianism and internet memes
>>29048370So true xis, the name woman also doesn't mean XX chromosomes anymore
>>29047666Nobody cares about Lincolns dude
>>29048370>bro everything is meaningless and superficiallibtard apathy will be the end of us all
>>29048370makes sense why you wouldn't be hung up with being called a faggot all the time
>>29047916I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. They had THUNDERBIRD right fucking there unused when they were making an electric sedan and…they just didn’t. Retards. Dodge making an electric Charger made sense in a rare sensible move.
>>29047660Oh look, another Hertz rent-a-car.Trashbin.
>>29047660The ONLY reason we’re getting a 4 door mustang and camaro is because the suits in corporate saw how well the charger did with the melon munchers and couldn’t pass up an opportunity to pander to niggers.
>>29049237If that was the ONLY reason then why didn't they do it 20 years ago? You know Ford used to have a full suite of sedans, right?
>>29049155>>29049157>>29048574You are mexican ricers who come from a long line of ricers >>29049237This. White men buy hybrid crossvers for their fat wives, RWD v8 sedans are for stinky browns.
>>29049293>Believing that a 4 door car derives from a Mustang should be called a Falcon because the original Mustang was derived from the Falcon is being a brownIf car manufacturers don't care about their own heritage they should not be surprised no one cares to stick their wallet out for them.
>>29049320>heritage>should be calledYou have to get your estrogen levels checked, this is genuinely not normal. Put a fucking falcon badge on it if you really wanted. > surprised no one cares to stick their wallet out for themThe car isn't even for sale yet lmaoThe charger went from a 2 door muscle car to a 4 door sedan, and it was one of the best selling cars of the 2010s and 2020s.
>>29049328>shartjakPost discarded
>>29049237The charger's been around for two decades. It's not why both GM and Ford are looking to release four door pony cars at the same time.The real reason here is late Gen Z and Gen Alpha grew up with their parents driving them around in SUVs and CUVs and now associate those cars as mom cars and sedans are the thing that is unique and interesting to them. The market is adjusting to this positioning ahead of when this population represents a meaningful portion of car buyers. If they can bring cool new sedans to market just as this population is hitting 18, then by the time they're 30 and buying cars themselves they'll have a strong market for a wider range of sedans.
>>29047660>>29047887>4-door "sports" carsJust when you thought this world couldn't get any more gayer. I'll just stick to Corvettes.
>>29049270Sedans that don’t get feature in rap music videos>>29049768>The market is adjusting to this positioning ahead of when this population represents a meaningful portion of car buyers.People under the age of 30 make up 6% of new car purchases, they design and build new cars for gen x and millennials, not zoomers
>>29049998>People under the age of 30 make up 6% of new car purchasesYou didn't read anything I said.
>>29050007implying zoomers will have money, let alone interest in these cars is far fetched.
>>29047660Will be getting one a couple years after launch. Been wanting a sporty manual sedan after having kids.
>>29050043If you think pony cars aren't intentionally advertised at teenagers you're an absolute moron. It's not about selling cars, it's about selling brand identity. These cars are loss leaders; their purpose is to cement brand identity on the next generation during their formative years ahead of when they spend their money.This shit is documented fact. Automakers have done this for half a century now. This is just them doing it in a new way.
>>29049293>White men do everything i likeThis is a meme. Be serious.
>>29047666>>29047669>>29048750>Nobody cares about Lincolns dudeYou silly slippery butt-holed faggot. Lincoln will rise again. Just release the Mustang as a Lincoln and call it the Mark IX and call the 4-door one the Mark IX Continental/Town Car. That's all they have to do. They can just put some nicer leather and different interior styling and different exterior lights and charge $15k more for it and people will buy itCan you imagine the joy of being a 60 year old boomer driving your brand new V8 Lincoln Sedan in 2030?
>>29049768You're not wrong but the real reason has to do with the loneliness crisis. SUVs and Crossovers were (and are) super popular because the majority of new car buyers are men and women with families and children. Once you get married and have kids, and thus, combined dual-income household, it's easier to justify buying a big car because ITS SAFE and your wife will demand a safe vehicle to haul the one or two or three children around in. With Gen Z predicted to have less children than any prior generations, there will be no need for most of them to have big SUVs. They won't be driving kids around, and if they do, it won't be til their 40s. The sedan allows you to drive around with friends or your gf but it's also fine for solo driving. That's the big problem with SUVs, if you're driving around a large SUV just by yourself it's absolutely pointless, but a sedan isn't pointless
>>29047660>Mach 4If they are truly going to call it the Mustang Mach 4 then does that imply that someday, there may be a higher tier version called the.. Mach 5?Donald Trump couldn't do it. Shinzo Abe couldn't do it. Shigeru Miyamoto couldn't do it. But will Ford Motor Company, under the leadership of Jim Farley and Bill Ford, Jr., finally MAKE ANIME REAL?THERE HE GOES THERE GOES SPEED RACER!! HE'S A DEMON ON WHEELSThe marketing writes itself, eat your fucking heart out Dodge you bastards of faggotland
>>29050329i'm not sure i trust ford to build a car with saw blades that come out the front
>>29047660why not just call it the falcon?
>>29048298>Taurusthat should stay a mazda based fwd
>>29050344Hell nah
>>29050135Pony cars are not intentionally advertised to a demographic that has no money or much interest for new cars, especially baseddans.It’s incredibly naive to think an international multi billion dollar company is making cars at a loss, you honestly believe shareholders would be happy with that? “Brand identity” doesn’t pay out dividend checks or keep assembly lines running, sold cars do.
>>29047660Ten years ago I would have decried this as super gay, a dilution of the ford brand, and tantamount to heresy against the Mustang name. Now in 2026 I don't give a fuck. When everything else is a boring crossover or EV I'm just happy to see a brand new V8 powered rwd sedan being released. Besides, the "purity" of the Mustang name went out the window when they made a boring commuter EV and called it a Mustang. Ford clearly doesn't care about the sanctity of it's heritage so why should I? At this point I see any new car equipped with a V8 as a win. I don't care what they call it.
>>29047660Why do they put on the largest, most hideous wheels they can possibly find? Might as well just skip the rubber and go full metal.
>>29050471There's also no evidence that they're removing the coupe. Genuinely why the fuck do the names matterAt least for the camaro you can say, because they're ditching the 2 door camaro and making it 4 door, that's diluting the name and making it gayerFor the mustang mach 4 they are literally just adding another option along with the coupe mustang
>New FordThese cars are manufactured for Indian, Chinese, and Arab buyers.
>>29047660>Mustang dressed as a pre-enshittified Nissan MaximaI don't hate it.
>>29050527Big wheels have always been seen as cool. It's why so many cars used to have white wall tires, to make it look like the wheel was bigger than it really was. You look at concept car drawings from the 60s and even back then they were still drawn with tires much thinner than were physically possible at the time.
>>29050544historical white wall tires are actually cool and functional though since they had lots of rubber sidewall mounted on like 15” wheels
>>29050553How are big wheels not functional? It's to fit bigger brakes and improve grip.
>>29050553You're missing the point entirely. >white wall tires are actually cool Yeah they're cool because it makes it look like the wheel is much larger than it actually is>and functional No they're not. There's zero functional benefit to painting a big stripe on your tire. Its purely cosmetic. If you're making a drawing or 3D rendering or scale model of a car, that isn't bound by the physical constrains of real wheels and tires, then you can cut out the middle man entirely and just put 20 series tires on a 26 inch wheel
>>29050559>There's zero functional benefitIt keeps the tires cooler making them last longer
>>29050588No it doesn't.
>>29050558>worsens ride quality due to less cushioning material>increases unsprung weight>reduces mpg>more likely to get damagedthe large wheel trend is retarded
>>29050606You're conflating tire and wheel size.
>>29050619typically these days the larger the wheel the thinner the tire
>>29050606>>worsens ride quality due to less cushioning material>>reduces mpg>>more likely to get damagedUm you do understand that it's a sports car right? >>increases unsprung weightJust have bigger brakes and more power to accelerate and decelerate faster.
>>29049237No, it's because of a goldilocks of rffects>Truck and SUV are too expensive for the average person to justify>regulations are changing to benifits smaller cars>dodge charger showed that their is still a market for American sedans, and nu charger has flopped so hard that their is a giant open spot>coupes dont sell enough, but 4 doors give buyers justification>younger generations wanting more options because they see CUV's, SUV's, and Trucks as mom-mobiles>China has no answer for it
>>29049293i thought you weren't hung up on names though
>>29047796The best selling car in California is back to being the Camry because Californians hate Elon now.
>they killed the falcon in 2016 for this
>>29047773The jews finally snaked their way into Ford despite Henry's efforts. As you know they have to destroy anything culturally held onto. Started with the ev, now this. It's demoralization techniques.
>>29050471>>29051486See. It's worked. Nobody cares anymore and by extention, nobody cares about the actual mustang anymore. It's all just blah.Mix the races, we shouldn't have 7 foot giants dunking on the basketball court, 300 pound viking looking mfers able to lift trucks off their wheels, or blond hair blue eyed beauty queens. That would make everyone special. Better to mix them all up into a singular ugly blob.
>>29051498We should have only 7 foot, 300 lbs, 150 IQ people on this planet.
>>29051498>Ford makes a 4 door Mustang>THE WEST HAS FALLEN
>>29051693This but unironically
>RWD V8 Sedan in 2026Neat
>>29050321>With Gen Z predicted to have less children than any prior generations, there will be no need for most of them to have big SUVs. They won't be driving kids around, and if they do, it won't be til their 40s. The sedan allows you to drive around with friends or your gf but it's also fine for solo driving.if this was actually the case, why wouldn't you just make single or two seat vehicles?
>>29050544Big tires have been cool the whole time This was the thing that made F1 cars look so awesome imoWhen they switched back in 2019 or whenever it was now, I was so disappointed
>>29051498>>29051486Uh oh, chuddy melty
>>29053575No one said fat tires were never ever cool. But concept cars 99% of the time have incredibly thin tires.