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what do you guys think about the e85/86 bmw z4?
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Hideous clown shoe car
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>>29047684
Looks good, McDonald's struts though I'd just get a s2000.
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>>29047684
Absolutely pretty car shape, horrendously overpriced even today.
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>>29047688
doesn't look as shoey as the other one
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>>29047684
Good cars, look nice, handle well, decent power. Probably the only BMW worth a shit
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>>29047684
Putting a Z in the quarter panel indents is perhaps the most bold and fashionable that BMW ever gets
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I don't think about bmw
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>>29047684
I like mine.
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>>29047684
It's not as raw and manual as the Z3. Everyone who has ever sold a Z3 Coupe has regretted it. The same can't be said for the Z4.
It's fine and it's certainly not soul crushing, but it doesn't beg you to slam your foot down and throw it into corners, and the chassis/suspension doesn't feel as good as a 996.
It feels more like a GT than a sports car.
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>>29047840
z4 is better than the z3 in all aspects. they are pretty much the same weight and power, but with a superior chassis and suspension. feels more raw is cope for tin can strength and wet noodle characteristics.
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>>29047869
>electric power steering
>all engines are drive by wire
>also more pigfat
4 cylinder z3 clears
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>>29047869
memes aside, was the first BMW with electric power steering and it's a real drawback imo
Seating position is much nicer though, and trunk space is pretty decent for a roadster
>>29047738
Only car I can think off that actually looks best in metallic grey or silver because of that
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>>29047880
>>29047921
the electric steering isnt as bad as retarded reviews make it out to be on the better lci models, drive it yourself.

>4 cylinder z3 clears
nah, the z4 also had a 4 cylinder for retarded cucks like you to enjoy.

again, the z4 is just superior to the z3.
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>>29047869
>superior chassis and suspension.
They're both bathtubs on McDonald's struts retard
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>>29048065
and they still out perform their price bracket
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I like the cabrios but I would never get the coupe version
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>>29048054
I had a black 2,2 like this guy>>29047761 for a few months
Didn't like the steering, it's gives zero feedback and sometimes it forgets to self-center itself, but for the money it's a pretty decent car overall. Shame you can't swap in an E46 rack (afaik)
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>>29048054
You actually don’t know why the 4 cylinder z3 is better than(most of the) 6 cylinder ones don’t you?
Yeah next time don’t just look at horsepower numbers because there is more to a car than that
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>>29048109

Literally just buy a miata at that point
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>>29048112
Sure you could. Prices are similar, at least here in Euroland
A z3 drives better however
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>>29048089
Wtf price bracket retard it's a used car lol. You should be doing hardware analysis not price analysis, wrenchlet
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>>29048128
Which is why I think getting 2 extra cylinders would be better
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>>29047715
s2000 are ricetaxed way beyond what they should be worth
can get 2 manual i6 z4s for the price of one s2000
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>>29047684
I don't think about the e85/86 bmw z4
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>>29048316
>get 2 manual i6 z4s for the price of one s2000
No shit, the z4 is a McDonald's strutted bathtub the s2000 is leagues ahead in every way and you have to pay for that
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BMW Z4 M Coupe E86

Values possibly increasing. Its an M3 E46 but lighter and with superior aero profile.
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Top ten best looking beamers of all time.
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>>29048334
a gutless economy engine and cheaper plastics?
you do you hun xx
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>>29048374
>gutless economy engine
>implying
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>>29048316
>>29048334
same price range that gods chariot goes for but you get a far better car.
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>>29048748
>same price range that gods chariot goes for
which is what?
>black tail lights
riced out
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>>29048751
do your own home work
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>>29048131
For 10-100 or so extra horsepower on the z3 you lose the mechanical throttle and the engines become more plasticy
Also the M54(which is the only 6 cylinder that has a real power differential compared to the M44) is a massive oil burner and not it's the piston rings not the valve stem seals
Though the 2.8L(M52TU) came with an LSD
Also finding a 6 cylinder z3(In Europe) is on the impossible side nowdays meanwhile M44 powered ones still exist(careful not to get the 8 valve M43 which makes really low power)
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>>29048766
>8 valve
Kek, what a piece of shit they will do anything to save a dollar on euroshit
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>>29048383
>makes 110lb-ft less torque
>less torque also peaks at 7500rpm vs 4900rpm
>not gutless
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>>29048374
>cheaper plastics?
bmw is the king of cheap plastics stupid ass ricer, wrenchlet. there is literally 0 plastic on a s2000 engine
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>>29048761
i wasn't particularly interested in this car so far in the thread, but this image does catch my eye.
something about it just makes it look good
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>>29048768
I guess so
This engine also came on the e46 and its rather popular here because it lasts and lasts and is easy to work on
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>>29048768
How long did the base model Corolla use a 4spd auto and drum brakes?
>>29049959
>This engine also came on the e46 and its rather popular here
In the U.S. the base engine in the E46 was the 2.5L I6 and we didn't even get the E46 compact after the E36 compact bombed here.
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>>29047684
Had a z4m for a bit. Fun car but felt almost the same as an m3.
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>>29047684
BMW 1 Series M Is the Best BMW of all time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccz8drePBuA
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>>29047684
It's hard to find a z3 in good condition because they rust like hell



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