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>>29048039
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I sprayed wd 40 inside the fuel distributor probably a bad idea I didn't even consult Gemini prior to the act
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>>29048041
18 Years isn't old for an engine?
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why do yuros insist on spaghetti engineering
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>>29048046
>why do yuros insist on spaghetti engineering
Because it keeps engineers in jobs
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>>29048039
Yes, thank you for agreeing.
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>>29048050
Your girthy radiator makes me feel emasculated
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>vacuum operated door locks
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>>29048063
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>>29048064
What the fuck
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>>29048063
that spring perch looks terrible
>>29048064
use case for door locks?
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>>29048039
You cherry picked the worst example. Still better than >>29048041 in any event.
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>>29048080
But it turns out this spaghetti abomination apparently has a some purpose:

"The twin turbo compressors are located centrally between the cylinder heads. This results in a more compact engine, lower weight, and lower pressure losses between the intake and exhaust sides."
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If I recall correctly, Volvo 244 utilized either a vacuum or stored air pressure to move the ventilation blend doors.
I used to play with the switches as a kid.
>**psshhhh*
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>>29048064
The ultimate "soft movement" mechanism.
We should look at their soft-close door mechanisms next.
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>>29048096
my dodge has vacuum controlled blend doors. it took me a hand vac pump to figure out why they weren't moving, because it turns out some numpty at the factory had mixed the line colours up so the actuator side was on the vacuum side and vice versa.
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pre-EFI emissions be like
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>>29048103
>my dodge has vacuum controlled blend doors.
Cools.
What model and year?
Good t-shooting on that!
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>>29048064
a german will tell you this is better because it is silent and doesn't require additional motors
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4U-iQIobcdQ
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>>29048039
>cherry picks the famously shit example


cool thread, retard
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>>29048064
In what world would anyone think this is better than solenoids?
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>>29048175
In german world
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>>29048181
If you can handle this job there isnt really anything on a car that can intimidate you
Its also a job thats been done and documented a million times
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>>29048107
1967 dodge phoenix, just a rhd version of the same year plymouth fury. drove me nuts trying to figure out why the blend doors weren't blending the way they were supposed to
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>>29048064
The 123 vacuum locks aren’t even that bad. I was scared to get into it on mine but it’s actually super straightforward. Wasn’t that bad to diagnose either.
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There was a period between the vacuum hose era and the "chip on everything connected to a complicated bus and sensors everywhere" era. Say, '90-10. They were easier to work on while still having the EFI that you want for reliability.
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>>29048041
this looks ai generated
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>>29049028
It's not.
Twin-turbo V-configuration engines with (specifically) air/water intercoolers and lots of accessory systems tend to look like that.
Meanwhile picrel is a new N/A I-4.
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>>29048039
>Fuel injected
>"Older car"
That bitch ain't an "older car" it has a computer in it to control the injectors. Old carburetors, now we're cooking
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>>29049049
Old cars have mechanical injection
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>>29049031
i really need to sit in an ND and see which seats would work for my shitty back. maybe the recaros + a lumbar support pad.
otherwise i'm spending x2 as much and getting an integra type s
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>>29049058
Recaros are very narrow and firm
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>>29049058
I've had NA/NB for over a decade. I've also had cars with stock recaros. I also had the last gen Integra.
None of this is comfortable. Why would you pay $10k+ more for a shitty new Integra?
How about a used CT5?
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>>29049072
manuals are only the blackwings
used ct4v bw go for $55k. Used ct5v are wayyyy expensive.
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>>29048146
>not wanting to gaze upon and savor your creation before removing it from this world
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>>29048039
My dad used to be a jaguar mechanic, any V12 that had AC never got the cylinder 1 sparkplug changed because it was so damn hard to reach.
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>>29048181
That bank spacing is immaculate
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I want to buy a Triumph 2000, is this a terrible idea or just a bad idea? It will be my daily as well.
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>>29048063
Isn't that actually for a W124? My 300D had the same front springs. Sold the car before I could do the AWD conversion that surely would have been a nightmare to source everything for.
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>>29048050
Just spend $5000 on adaptor plates to have less power than the original but its easier to change the air filter and spark plugs.
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I like my simple vacuum hose routing, peak early 2000nds Japanese engineering
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>>29048039
At least most of those lines are fucking metal instead of cheap plastic like this
>>29048041
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>>29048146
if you have cheap slav labor available german engineering isnt so bad
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>>29049031
>2.0L version banned in EU
I CURSE YOU URSULA
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>>29050710
>Less power
Tuning/skill issue
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>>29048039
No no no no not these ones, you gotta get the slow piece of shit ones that were built by and for union drunkards where it's easy to fix them because they weren't even good in the first place
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I don't get the hate on "newer" engines, most gremlins are not inside the engine. I prefer an engine with OBDII and injection over a mechanical injection system you need to be a german grand wizard to fix.
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>>29048039
>>29048041
WE ARE THE BORG
LOWER YOUR SHIELDS AND SURRENDER YOUR SHIPS
YOUR TECHNOLOGICAL AND BIOLOGICAL DISTINCTIVENESS WILL BE ADDED TO OUR OWN
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>>29050899
>plastic cooling systems
>500 modules just because fuck you
>proprietary tools
>designed to be worked on a lift exclusively nothing less
>no longer able to buy a service repair manual, must subscribe to access
>over stressed low displacement forced induction engines with open alu blocks
>Wanna change your brake pads? Heh, sorry kiddo you'll need a dealership exclusive handheld device to put it into service mode because fuck you
>CVT, designed to never be rebuilt. Only replace
>infinite screens because why buy a replacement button to fix a problem when you can replace your entire dashboard for the price of a fully built gaming pc!
Guys like, I just don't get it! Newer = better so like why do all these smart technicians hate the epic modern car? It's just so much better! Reinventing the wheel with a more complex wheel that's actually a smoothly rotating triangle that you don't notice an issue until it's far too late!

Gosh. I love spending a down payment on a house for a digital rolling washing machine. I'm so smart, these apes just don't get it.
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>>29051137
These are mostly a very recent problem.
>over stressed low displacement forced induction engines with open alu blocks
I'm going to buy one of those and its probably going to run for 300k+ as long as I service it correctly.
The whole not being able to service the car is indeed a dick move but you probably know what you're in for if you buy a car like that.
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>>29051137
100% of those are bullshit you read in here
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>>29051704
>>29051665
Founds a pair of suckers.

Lemme know when you can do more than hold a flashlight for your dad. Dumb fuck suit shills. People like you are a poison for high value goods for the consumer. I genuinely hate you. I wish you could be reminded how heavy a wrench is when thrown across a shop floor. Be sure to smile wide before the impact because 'you know what you're in for when asking for it'
Wrenches? Oh yeah those aren't actually hefty when thrown at your dense skulls I only got that from reading things from here. Wanna test?
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>>29051704
No he's 100% right you're just peak goy cosumer cattle.
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>>29051731
Thus proving my point, wrenchlet
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>>29048039
>it's complicated because I can see everything
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>>29051751
No point was proven because you made none whatsoever. Tell me, if you wrench. What brand is your micrometer?
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>>29051731
I've never bought a new car, so I doubt it has any impact on how car manufactures make cars. If you want to blame someone blame private lease or people who take out loans to buy cars.
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>>29051774
>too retarded to keep up with basic conversation
No wonder you think anything that wasn't built by and for lead poisoned retards is some sort of jewish witchcraft machine
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>>29048181
The irony is this timing job is almost idiot proof when you get to this point. It looks far, far more intimidating than it really is.
With the provided cam/crank locks its literally impossible to fuck up because the timing tools simply will not fit together at the end if you're off even by one tooth.
The pain comes from getting access and realizing which bolts are TTY and which arent. This isnt exactly a spot on the engine where you want to +90 degree the wrong fastener.
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>>29048039
that is easy to work on, you pop that unreliable piece of shit out and install an LS1
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>>29051791
Oh so you go out of your way to shill the nuslop. Dumb fuck suit shills.
>>29051824
Bitch I am the jews and those lead poisoned men were absolutely correct.
Maybe you should soak up some lead in order to activate more neural connections in that stupid head of yours. I didn't engage with your conversation because I do not respect your terrible dogshit opinion pushing objectively inferior chinsy integrity lacking engineering principles.

After 2014, there are no good new cars.
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>>29048106
Delet
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whenever i'm at a car show and the boomers have the hoods popped on their 50s, 60s and 70s cars i wonder how anyone could have been a wrenchlet in those days. everything you need to do (short of advanced stuff like rod bearings or whatever) is just right there in the open
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Trv
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>>29051961
Well they were designed to be worked on by their owners and you had to work on them frequently bc they required constant maintenance to stay running. We've moved very far away from that now.
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>>29052582
this just means 60s and 70s GMs and fords are even better to own; there's such a huge aftermarket and much of it also improves upon the factory designs taking advantage of the knawledge and materials we have now. so you can enjoy the same servicing requirements as a 90s car, but also have the ease of access of a 60s car that required much more maintenance. plus you have a very nice looking car.
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>>29052618
Yeah they're the perfect classic for wrenching on yourself it's just that they are so fucking expensive bc of the boomer tax. Hopefully when they all die prices will drop off.
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>>29051922
>wahwahwah I'm a wrenchlet wahwahwah
God Genxers are pathetic
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>>29052623
yeah you unfortunately gotta look past the halo cars. land yachts like mopar C bodies for example are relatively cheap, but their prices are also slowly going up as more and more people get priced out of the much more well known chargers, roadrunners etc.
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>>29052748
Braindead Comatose response, typical zoomer behavior. I've restored more cars than you've touched women. You useless no tool-chud.
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OP misunderstood, it's more like "older cars did not intentionally impede you from working on them while forcing dealer-only service"
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>>29052964
Sure ya did, and your husband even let you pick the interior color in some of them right?
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>>29052991
Do you always default on gay fantasies? Have you tried hitting the prompt generator with your purse you mindless drone
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>>29053012
Uh oh, the tuff mechanic is having a melty
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I’m certain that people who reject “modern” conveniences in cars are driving 10yo shitboxes.

Ever back into a parking spot with questionable visibility? Cheap cars from 10 years ago didn’t have 360° cameras.

Driving down the interstate with the cruise control set at 75, then some dipshit going 71 gets in front of you. Now you have to turn off the cruise, adjust your speed, turn it back on… just to have that fag speed up. People don’t understand adaptive cruise control because they drive a poor person car from the mid 2010’s.

Backing a boat down a ramp is a tricky thing to do if you don’t have a lot of experience. You can steer Ford trucks from a knob on the dashboard, using a camera to guide you. It’s never been more convenient, but the poors don’t even know this exists.

Hot outside when you leave work? Schedule your remote start so your car is 71° when you get in. Engine is warmed up too. Or, if it’s butt ass cold, the snow and ice are melted from the windows and the heated seats are nice and toasty.

“I don’t like screens” because the screen in our car is fucking tiny and damn near useless. 10” minimum (just like your mom, lol) for visibility and functionality.
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>>29048164
What a pos…
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>>29053029
Very reddit response
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>>29053237
Fitting for a very reddit "mechanic"
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>>29053098
>10yo shitboxes
joke's on you, mine is (nearly) 60 years old and parking is ridiculously easy because you can see exactly where the corners of the car are and there's so much visibility
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>>29053098
It all sounds marginally useful but not worth all the downsides, I've driven modern cars and they're just not as nice for driving, looking at or wrenching.
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>>29053331
>”so many downsides!”
>can’t name a single fucking thing
We’re talking about modern conveniences. You could absolutely have an F100 with the old 300ci straight 6 and no EFI that gets 10mpg if you’re lucky but is still equipped with a 14” infotainment system that jerks you off in traffic.
>b-but muh crank windows!
It’s all so god damn tiring. “I hate new thing” is the worst meme we’ve ever had.
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Old cars didn’t brake on you if you cornered “too hard.”
Old cars have physical braided steel cables linking the throttle to the pedal.
Old cars aren’t totaled from non-structural minor accidents.
Old cars aren’t all automatic and 4,000 lbs.
Old cars don’t have cameras pointed at you.
Old cars don’t try getting you to log in to google or apple accounts to harvest and sell your data.
But if want to feel “rich” for leasing a new F150 then I won’t stop you.
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>>29048198
Yeah but it's still shit. You can adapt to shit and master it, but it's still shit.
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>>29053098
>Ever back into a parking spot with questionable visibility? Cheap cars from 10 years ago didn’t have 360° cameras.
this wasn't as big of a problem because the cars were less "safe" meaning the pillars weren't so fucking big you could actually see where the fuck you were
same with the blind spot indicators, you used to be able to actually see without robot nanny blinking a light at you
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>>29053371
Just a stereo for my music, an AC and heater, thanks fag



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