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File: BMW M4 GT3 demo run.mp4 (1.74 MB, 720x1280)
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Genuine question: What makes it THREE times the price? I know the crash cell means it was never actually an M4 G82 off of the Dingolfing assembly line. I know all GT3s can take hits and jumps that would destroy a real G82. Its built with modularity in mind, to be repaired under stress.

The P58 block is allegedly the same as an S58.
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they're not built to sell in high numbers and racing teams will pay a lot more money for a car than civilians will. race cars are expensive because the manufactures can often charge that much and still have teams lining up to buy them.

Some manufacturers want to be known as the more affordable option. GM reportedly had the cheapest race cars whilst Ferrari had the most expensive.
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>>29048613
you're also paying for the supply chain/support network. while GM had cheaper race cars, GM did not support their cars the same way Porsche, BMW, AMG, and Ferrari does. you're not just getting a car, but also potentially that manufacturer's backing.
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>>29048523
>it was never actually an M4 G82
The chassis is. It's part of the racing homologation that it must be based on a road car. That and the engine are probably the only parts though. Basically everything else has been replaced with racing specific parts. The engine on the M4 GT3 isn't even in the same place, it's been moved backwards for better balance. The transmission, entirety of the suspension, almost everything inside the engine, the entire interior, and all of the body work is completely custom to the race version. As it may surprise you, none of those parts are cheap. For an idea of how much is different, here's a picture of the engine bay. Does anything in there look remotely similar to the road car?

This is totally normal. Honda will sell you a turn-key race car Civic Type R TCR for $172,238. A fair bit more than the $47,395 that they ask for the Type R road car.
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>>29049118
>Civic Type R TCR for $172,238
My bad, I was looking at the HRC news release from 2019. I found the actual Honda listing for the TCR car and it's now $299,999.93. Here's the brochure if you want to see what that gets you.
https://hondaracing-us.honda.com/-/media/TCR_brochure.ashx
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if the race car doesn't fall apart 1m behind finish line, it was built too heavy and remains in a non-optimized casual lifestyle mode. Consequently all "race cars" outside formula one are marketing slop for larpers.
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>>29048523
GT3 regulations changed over the years, started as fairly production based but there is a lot more freedom today.
The current rules which the M4, 992 and 296 were designed to even allow altering the wheelbase
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Manufacturers can charge what they want for competitive cars because racers want to win and they're only buying these cars to launder dirty cash anyway so it doesn't matter what it costs.
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Found another picture of the M4 GT3. What you see in white (along with the major engine components and some other odds and ends) are all that remain from the road car. GT3 cars are like 10% road car and 90% race car. The M4 GT4 is much, much closer to the road car. Goes for around $250,000. Quite the steal compared to the $625,000 that the M4 GT3 would cost you.
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Just buy the M2 racing if you want a race car on a budget
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>>29049140
and yet it dominates the competition. you’re paying for the result not for how they’re achieving it
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>>29049147
you're not dominating shit in the era of BoP
It's much more competitive and a better allrounder than Z4 and M6 though
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>>29049147
What?

You are very much paying for how they achieve it. Race cars are homologated to a specific class (GT3, GT4, etc.) that can be very specific on what is and isn't allowed in the construction. You're buying an M4 GT3 specifically because you want a car that is built to the GT3 rule set. "How they achieve it" is the whole fucking point of a factory, turn-key race car.

>and yet it dominates
Where?

In IMSA BMW is 3rd behind Chevy and Porsche. In DTM they're 5th. The only BMW team in SuperGT is in 23rd. Best I could find is 2nd in the GTWC Europe. Like, it's a fine car, but it's not blowing the doors off the competition. There's also BOP that >>29049152 pointed out.
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>>29049132
>to launder dirty cash anyway so it doesn't matter what it costs.
i hear you, but how does it work exactly? how/why would selling muffins allowe to steal millions from taxman?



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