When you break it down, it really is the truth of the arguement.
A hero isn't a man who crushes others with overwhelming power.A hero is a man who has the confidence in himself to face overwhelming power.
>>29049243>A hero is a man who has the confidence in himself to face overwhelming powerA hero knows when to fight his battles in the name of good, not to kill himself for the sheer sake of principle. Same applies to vehicles. There is no point trying to overpower a vehicle you know is far more powerfull than your own, you must instead take yourself out of such a situation. Whether it's the track or the highway, it's a fools errand to challenge some LS swapped monster in a wee miata with nothing but hopes and dreams
winning what? driving your yaris to work everyday isnt a grand prix
>>29049248The original mini embarrassed a lot of v8s on tight courses in the 60s.
>>29049275It would have been more humiliating if the minis had V8s
>>29049275no it didn't.
>>29049248Sounds like you just need to git gud, it's a known phenomenon at track days that miatas tend to actually be faster IRL than muh Porsche 911s and similar because the miata tards aren't afraid to actually throw their car around as it didn't cost them a gorillion dollars.
>>29049384miatas aren't even faster than 4 cylinder camaros on all seasons. post actual lap times.
>>29049384>actually if you put a handicap on drivers agility wins with less powerful carsYou're still supporting my argument. If those 911s had actual drivers behind them and not guys scared of scratching their toys they would be raping the twinks driving the miatas at the track
>>29049392>muh benchracing No thanks, I'm over 12 years old>>29049393Yeah but that doesn't happen IRL soooooooo
>Yeah butlmao
>trust me bro, miatas are killing machines!For a shitpost OP was right, Weight to Ratio fags are delusional
>I'm over 12 years old>ignores evidence and lives in his Initial D fantasy insteadlmfao
>>29049384>>29049396
>>29049393its also because a fast car takes more skill/talent to masterwhich is why when miatafags finally give up the miata handicap and get into a corvette/m3/porsche they're actually fast
>keyboard warriors who haven't been to a track day once in their life immediately seethelmao
the fastest cars at track days aren't miatas, though.
>>29049428how much do you want to bet he owned a miata
>>29049429how much do you want to bet the seethers in this thread ride the bus
>>29049429a lot of camaro guys have owned miatas. they switched because the camaro handles better. there are people on this very board who have owned miatas and switched to camaros for that exact reason.noodle chassis from mazda vs precision engineering from Formula One builder Cadillac just doesn't compare.
>>29049229one thing darkies will never understand is rooting for the underdog. jeets and nogs only care about the biggest and baddest since they have nothing.
>>29049431seems like the only people seething are the miata cucks simply because people post evidence that contradicts them.
>>29049433when will you drive a miata then before going onto a camaro/corvettethe miata does not hide bad driving like those cars, you are a bad driver you need to fix it now
>>29049441the miata does hide bad driving. it's the whole point of "driving a slow car fast". if your car is slow, you're less likely to crash by being a shit driver.
>>29049441>when will you drive a miata then before going onto a camaro/corvetteLol what?
>>29049444you dont crash every time you go out on a track if you're a shit driveroften you simply overdrive your car which feels faster than it actually is or you're too scared to actually throttle out of corners or dive into a turn camaronigger has never actually driven a car in anger outside of forza
>>29049444not surprised a busrider completely misunderstands, a fast car hides bad driving because you can just mash the throttle to use its acceleration in the straights to make up for your lack of cornering skill.
>>29049451Isn't this literally the gt40 gif, the ford takes the line and the miata guy throws it in way too much entry speed slides and loses a ton of time if he just hit the apex normally lolz so yeah little underpowered car can also hide bad driving because you won't crash the ford guy would crash if he did that constantly
>>29049451You're right. the cars that ironically do the most crashing are cars like the miata. they're cheaper, attract less experienced drivers, and they, like the butthurt fags ITT believe they're some underdog until they reach the limit of their noodle chassis and crash. the more expensive cars are gonna be driven by older, more experienced drivers who respect the limits of their own vehicles and will drive more conservatively.>>29049452>you can just mash the throttle No you can't, doing that in a faster car increases your chances of wrecking. throttle discipline is a part of good driving, something you don't need to worry about as much in a slow car. the slow car hides bad driving for this very reason. imagine calling someone else a busrider and your dumb ass doesn't even know how driving a car at the limit actually works lmao.
>>29049451What does driving in anger have to do with driving on a track?>>29049452Not surprised the busracing benchricing boyrider doesn’t understand that you can just fucking FULL THROTTLE a low hp car like a miata around EVERYWHERE without fear of losing control due to oversteer because it’s so fucking slow that only the nubbiest nubs wouldn’t be able to catch a slide
>>29049464>you wont crashyeah you'll just lose a ton of time that's not hiding bad drivingthis is exactly why its harder to be a fast driver in a fast car btw the fast car will have you sliding at a lot faster speed = less likely to recover or will be snappier/less predictable at the limit it makes a lot of sense if you think about it, if you're coming up to a corner at 150mph you have less time to react and predict and move than if you come up to it at 100mph = faster car more difficult to drive fast = you will never match the magazine time set by a professional
>FUCK MIATAS I FUCKING HATE MIATAS AND MIATA DRIVERS I ONLY LIKE GOOD CARS AND CAR COMPANIES
>>29049472What are you on about, I slide my Miata fucking everywhere. That's the whole fucking point of one. Don't talk out your ass about shit you don't know shit about, shithead.
>>29049477>replying to stance ricerNewfag
>>29049477Kek that’s the point retarded shitheadYou can slide around on cheap fuckin tires with a low hp car like a miata without fear of losing control from oversteer because it’s slow as fuckKek cry pussy miatas are gay as fuck
>>29049470The faster car skillless plebs are entirely saved by modern driver AIDS like traction an stability control, it's why you see retards crash immediately after turning it off.
>>29049476I don't hate miatas, I just hate that they attract low IQ individuals who think they're driving gods.
>>29049486the "slow" car has these things, too. and they also crash when turning them off.
In this thread:its small, light, and WEAK.yes, WEAK.in the context of cars you drive in the real world, and not in a track, that is a GOOD thing.if you own a REAL sports car, you can NEVER really drive it hard. EVER.step on the throttle for a couple seconds, you're breaking the speed limit.keep stepping on it for a couple more, you're probably gonna die. unless you're on a highway, in which case you're looking at your license being taken away plus maybe some jail time.in a miata, you can actually drive that thing HARD. you can launch it, rev out 1st/2nd to the limiter, and you're still not breaking the law. or, if you are, its not by a lot, you're still within the realm of just getting a ticket.in the twisties? yea you can put your foot down hard after every turn, and keep it down for a while, and you'll still have time to break for the next turn. in a REAL sports car you're going off the road if you try that shit.so yea, its fun because unlike "real" sports cars, you can actually drive it hard.also its actually affordable, unlike a REAL sports car!!!not like you’re old enough to understand!!!
>>29049486Delusions of a slowfaglet
>>29049493Mine sure doesn't. I don't even have ABS. It remains uncrashed.
>>29049496Delusions of a retarded badgewhore
>>29049513file did not upload reeeeee
>>29049499can't say the same for the rest that did crash.
>>29049513>nooo every fast car is a BMW!!!Kek cry pussy slowfaglet
>>29049518You could say that about literally fucking anything
>>29049487the miata will turn you into a driving god after a few years of racing onethat is why the next step up is an actual fast car like a corvette or a koenigsegg
I love how we wen't from:>MX5s counter OPs arguementto>Real drivers start off in an MX5 to practice for a big engined carIt's just gone full circle to the original point. All else being equal power to weight ratio can't make up the perfomance difference when up against a car with a more powerfull engine. It's not that MX5s are even bad, they're great, but the level of cope going on around them when facing off against more powerfull drivetrains is fucking bonkers.
>>29049523>the miata will turn you into a driving god after a few years of racing oneNO IT WONT YOU HAVE TO BUY A 4CYL AUTOMATIC CAMARO
>>29049527also missing the other point>slow cars are easier to drive fast than a fast car
>>29049527
>>29049523Kek it won’t it’s too fucking slow>>29049527No, now we’re at:>miatas are too slow to learn how to drive an actually fast car in one, and that’s somehow a GOOD thing!!!>also, Corvettes and Mercedes are both BMWs; did you know that?
>>29049523so why have all the fastest F1 and nascar drivers never driven miatas?
>>29049535Should have got 4cyl Camaros
>>29049537someone really got buck broken over this>>29049392
>>29049537Too ugly slow n ghetto
This thread is like an advertisement as to why you shouldn't buy a miata with the amount of faggotry going on
>>29049547YEA THEYRE SUCH STUPID BAD CARS OMG I HATE MIATAS AND MIATA DRIVERS, THEY WOULD BE MUCH BETTER OFF WITH A BMW OR A CAMARO
>>29049547indeed. they can't actually address anything, so they're just throwing a tantrum. truly the lowest IQ """enthusiast""".
This thread is like an advertisement as to why you shouldn't buy a BMW with the amount of faggotry going on
>>29049550YEA THEYRE SUCH STUPID BAD CARS OMG I HATE BMWS AND BMW DRIVERS, THEY WOULD BE MUCH BETTER OFF WITH A MIATA
>>29049548Yes Miatas are really bad cars you shouldn't want one so prices stay lower
>>29049553YOURE SO STUPID BMWS ARE THE BEST CARS SO ARE CAMAROS
>>29049560YOURE SO STUPID MIATAS ARE THE BEST CARS SO ARE MX-5s
>>29049393>If those 911s had actual drivers behind them...So what you're saying is it's not the car, it's the driver. That means OP's fagpost is subjective to the individuals and not the truth of the argument.
>>29049522your dumbass is the one who brought up people crashing without driver aids to suggest some cuck in a slow car was somehow a better driver.
>>29049535>nascar drivers never driven miatasabout that
>>29049563If you put clones with equal ability in miatas and 911s, the 911 clones would win. That's the objective truth
>>29049548>>29049550No one but you even mentioned BMWs lol
>>29049535>f1 drivers never driven miatasyeeeeahhhhh
>>29049566NASCAR is actually really stupid just like maiats, they should have started with a bmw or a camaro then they would win more in NASCAR
>>29049569Your existence in this thread did, schizo-kun. Go shit up /ck/ instead for a little while while the big boys talk about cars, buddy.
>>29049570Nooo that car is LOWERED!!!Now try driving this on the street!!You’ll be oh so disappointed when your precious matsuda scrapes on every small bump in the roadNot like you’re old enough to understand!!!
>>29049565Because by far and away the largest percentage of Miatas don't have any driver AIDS whatsoever.
>>29049571well the 2025 nascar rookie of the year started out in spec miatas maybe one day camaronigger will make his nascar debut after benchracing in spec camaro on the 4chan track
>>29049566did any of them win a single nascar championship?
>>29049570>Championships 0>Wins 0>Podiums 0>Career points 0>Pole positions 0>Fastest laps 0where are the fastest F1 drivers?
>>29049573>nooo only praising slow faggy bullshits is talking about cars!!!Kel I cook Better than everyone on /ck/ without it even being a hobby I spent time on And I’m talking about FAST cars being Better than slow bullshits right now, son
>>29049592>Kel I cook Better than everyone on /ck/ without it even being a hobby I spent time on [X] Doubt
>>29049580Because they’re too slow to lose controlUnless you’re a terrible driver
>>29049596See>>29049477
>>29049581See >>29049578
>>29049566Oh my HECK!!!Is his miata le heckin LOWERED?!?!?Nooo HOW DID HE GET IT THERE?!???You can’t drive a LOWERED car on the street!!!!Surely he scraped on every small bump in the road!!!Not like he’s old enough to understand!!!
>>29049601See >>29049484 again
3/4 of the thread is one retard lol
>>29049568What if they have to race through a tunnel 49 inches high?
>>29049580they also have been wrecked far more which is why it's now harder to find older ones despite how many were initially built.
Ok just to recap, miatas are bad, Camaros and bmws are good, am I missing anything?
>>29049616Yeah, Miata owners are based. BMW and Cameros are cucks.
>>29049595It’s REAL easy to seeThey literally only talk about fast food thereGo check it out yourself
>>29049248>A hero knows not to kill himself for the sheer sake of principle.Rorschach disagrees.
>>29049616miatas are ugly slow and gaycamaros are ugly, mostly slow, and ghettoMostlyAnd the only person that mentioned BMW are the slowfaglets who are seemingly angry at the mere existence of the company kek
>>29049615Attrition happens to everything and isn't exactly a fair comparison either as NA/NB have also simply had more time to be wrecked or be mechanically totalled, regardless of whether lack of driver AIDS and skill caused it to be taken off the road.
Best combination of power and handling?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOdu77vzzCU
>>29049657BMWs are amazing; we get itBut only C5 and C6 The C1 and C3 sure are pretty THOUGH
>>29049657Miata with a Camaro V6 swap
>>29049229Miatafags gonna kill themselves after this one
>>29049668Why’s it slower than a fuckin full size family sedan still lol
>>29049631Rorschach was literally written to be someone you shouldn't follow in the footsteps of.
>>29049634there are more corvettes of same era generation on the road than miatas despite there having been more miatas built.
>>29049672I'm not aware of a 500E even setting a hurrdurrring time. What's the brown dog yapping about?
>>29049687>there are more of a more expensive car boomers mothball as garage queen weekend toys than a cheap car people actually drove every day Wow it's fucking nothing
>>29049229Road and Track did an article called Sibling Rivalry back in the day where they did a huge comparison of performance cars from marques against each other and hired a professional driver (Steve Millen IIRC).SLK Vs SL500Boxster vs 911 Camaro vs CorvetteS2000 vs NSXZ3M vs Z8360 Modena vs 550 MaranelloThe 4th gen Camaro ended up lapping Thunderhill raceway faster than the S2000.
>>29049693the cope is off the fucking charts lmao.
>>29049697>why didn't cars that don't leave their garage get wrecked as oftenI can't imagine why anon
>>29049690Huh?Why is the V8 swapped miata STILL slower than these full-size family BMW sedans?
>>29049696s2gays are slow as fuck 4cylinderlets so this shouldn’t be a surprise at all
>>29049705>posts a 500E>a-actually I meant these other cars I didn't mention!!retard
>>29049705>V8 swappedCan you not read you dumb nigger? >>29049668>Camaro V6 swapAs in the 3.6 high feature engine. Not a LS/LT.
>>29049696>The 4th gen Camaro ended up lapping Thunderhill raceway faster than the S2000.Isnt that a 5.7 liter v8 vs a 2.0 kek
>>29049709>nooo your picture NEEDS to be related to the facts you post because I can’t look ANYTHING up myself!!!Kek cry fuckin pussy nocar
>>29049708>>29049711Now go look at the image in the OP.
>>29049710Kek v6lets are mostly gay as fuckMostlyAnd if it has the best power:weight ratio, why is it slower than a various BMW full-size family sedans?
>>29049714Why would anyone assume you meant some other cars you didn't mention or post a picture of you retarded glue eater? Not that I had high expectations from you but dude the bar is in hell and you still tripped over it.
>>29049698but they did leave their garage.
>>29049726Cool anecdote of literally one car, anon
>>29049724I don’t know, perhaps for the same reason that you think every fast car is a BMW
>>29049730Not an argument and whoever you think said that wasn't me. Try again, sweaty.
>>29049737I’m not arguing anything lolYou asked why someone would assume I meant a different car than the one I postedThe answer is I assumed that for the same reason that you assume every fast car I talk about is a BMW Which is hilariously unTrue
>>29049741>I'm not arguing>proceeds to argueYou're hopeless
>>29049743>nooo answering a question is actually arguing!!!Kek you’re a fucking retard and you have no cars
>>29049717>And if it has the best power:weight ratio, why is it slower than a various BMW full-size family sedans?>E39 M5 - 8:20>E60 M5 - 8:13>F10 M5 - 7:55>F90 M5 - 7:38>V6 swapped Miata - 7:33
>>29049749That is literally arguing you fucking moron
>>29049751And yet all have these BMW sedans are faster>>29049705Also LOL @ comparing stock car times to MODIFIED car timesNice try sweatie
>>29049752She literally asked me lol
>>29049756>>29049753>ai sloppa as evidenceKill yourself
>>29049716theres no comparison though, the s2000 is built by japaneese men, wtf is a camaro?
>>29049757>not an argument>nooo actually you’re still arguingKek cry pussy
>>29049433>Formula One builder CadillaWhere is the Cadillac F1 car?
>>29049761>ARGH ChatGPT HELP ME I'm getting btfo on 4chan!
>>29049764>nooo every fast car is ai!!!Kek cry pussy
>>29049762LMAO
>>29049229>>29049716450hp Scania R series vs. 180hp MiataWhose your money on?
>>29049753Neat, you posted one that's faster than a Miata. Quite the achievement.
>>29049776>180hp MiataThats a lot
>>29049777Than a HIGHly MODIFIED miata with a v6let swapI posted a bunch have BMWs that are faster here >>29049705
>29049392>na vs turbo
>>29049776>miata vs detuned scaniaWhat? V8 Scania's have 530-770hp stock.
>>29049785You shouldn't get chat-gpt to fight your battles for you. >The Scania R-series is designed for long-distance transport, offering a wide range of engine options from 280 to 770 hp.>https://www.scania.com/uk/en/home/products/trucks/r-series/r-series-specifications.html
>>29049791>280Medium rigid?
>>29049791>You shouldn't get chat-gpt to fight your battles for you. The projection is off the charts. Now specify V8 stupid. https://www.scania.com/group/en/home/products-and-services/trucks/v8.html
>>29049801Nowhere did I specify a V8, that's your cope. There's no replacement for displacement...
>>29049795oh for the sake of saving anon some time a medium rigid is unlimited weight two axles in Australia.Axle weight limits end up with the trucks only grossing 13.5t though
>>29049813>Nowhere did I specify a V8I pointed out that stock V8 scanias make more than the 450hp you were allowing in your retarded comparison. You then tried to "gotcha" with a chat gpt response with the 280hp I5 third world market engine. Nowhere did I specify that some scanias don't make less than 530-770hp, that's your cope.
this is about the performance of street cars so none of this matters since most of you specimens cant drive for shit >muh handling>muh powerstfu. you retards cant drive for shit so in practice all street cars have the same performance
>>29049762https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadillac_MAC-26
>>29049728>Cool anecdote of literally one car,isn't that what you did here>>29049499
>>29049823I said:>450hp Scania R seriesAnd your cope projected a new set of goalposts:>>29049785>What? V8 Scania's have 530-770hp stock.And it happened again....>>29049823>with the 280hp I5Was I talking about the i5? You strike me as a confused individual, you should seek therapy before you remove your genitals...
>>29049229Light cars are just more fun
>>29049547All i see is camarofag sperging out
>>29049568Because the power to weight ratio is higher on the 911..
>>29049863>Was I talking about the i5?You're the only one who copy pasta'd a chat gpt response mentioning it Anon. >>29049791
>>29049860>>29049580
>>29049892>>29049615
>>29049908We can go in circles like this forever faggot, try actually making a new point besides ones I already btfo.
>>29049910coping isn't btfo someone else's point.
Isn't the big block molester just using higher horsepower = higher power to weight ratio
>>29049917higher horsepower doesn't always translate to higher ratio, it becomes the difference between speed mogging vs acceleration bullying
>>29049409That anon ain't lying.Lots of ppl show up with M4s or GT3s and drive 60% pace.Not everyone is comfortable with driving 10/10s
>>29049229
>>29049248what if it's some ls swapped monster against a wee bmw
>>29049911>projection
>>29049955I mean if it's LS swapped the normally raped would become the rapist at that point
