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So tell me why buying used slicks to fuck around with at the track with isnt the way to go?
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>>29051488
It for sure is. Tons of guys who are serious enough to own purpose built race cars, enclosed trailers, tow rigs and wheel to wheel liscences from multiple sanctioning bodies exclusively use used tires.

The guys with multi million dollar budgets produce a lot of barely used tires
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>>29051488
Well for starters, those particular tires are trash and are only good for display purposes.
Racers arent going to sell good tires.
Thats like someone selling 20 gallons of VP race gas because the 55 gallon drum.isnt full anymore.
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>>29051488
If you're all right with the tires cording after one day sure, go for it.
It's fun, I've done it.

>>29051584
That's probably just pebbles picked up after a track session.
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>>29051584
>only good for display purposes.
Who is displaying a used up tire?
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>>29051584
>Racers arent going to sell good tires.

Ah I see you never had any experience with the Kart Racing community.
>these tyres are one meeting old and new ones a slightly softer so they'll shave 0.001 seconds off my lap time
>better sell them and buy new ones!
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>>29051848
I would assume they would be attached to a car that is also being displayed
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>>29051770
>just pebbles
Its fucking bald spots burned through to the cords because theres no rubber left on them.
>>29051892
Yes.
Although some people will wall mount them- like how Hard Rock has guitars and jackets on the walls.
>>29051854
>thinks heat cycling from one day is going to lose performance on a tire.
You actually showed your own lack of knowledge.
Slightly used tires are actually preferred. Theyre lighter and jave been scuffed for better grip. Its actually common in Nascar to put a used set on near the end of the race when theres not many laps left because they grip better than new.
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>>29051933
>>thinks heat cycling from one day is going to lose performance on a tire.
yeah it does, excess heat can easily permanently fuck em
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>>29051933
Nobody sells corded race tires anon.
I know because I buy used slicks all the time.
For $200-$300 it's a fun way to spend a weekend.
Do a cheap track day or Autocross.
Have fun times with the grip of the gods

>Slightly used tires are actually preferred
Anon, the fastest a racing tire will be is after the 1st heat cycle.
So the 2nd use.
After that, pace falls off.
Some tires that have a slower drop off (RE71RZ)but then there's tires like the cup2R that fall on their face after 2 uses.
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>>29051935
Lol.
So racers flock to buy and run "permanently fucked up" tires?
>>29052074
>Nobody sells corded race tires anon.
How fucking stupid are you that you dont even understand tire construction? But you supposedly race all the time?!
The nylon cords are what some of the belts are made out of dipshit.

Jesus fucking christ this board is pathetic.
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>>29052114
Anon before we continue, please post a pic of your car on any racing slick.
If you cannot provide a picture, you are automatically both fake and gay

I'll be waiting.
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>>29052123
Dude your some poser dipfuck that bought slicks off Craigslist and took his miata to "track day" where anybody with 50 bucks is allowed to run.
You have no knowledge outside of what your buddy Javier told you about tires.

You've already proven the following:
1)
You cant recognize tires that are burned through to the cords.
2)
You dont know how tires are constructed.

What a fucking moron.
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>>29051933
>Slightly used tires are actually preferred

Your own answer proves you wrong lmao
What happens when they get past "SLIGHTLY" used retard-kun?
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>>29052172
I accept your concession.

You will never be a real driver. You have no race car, you have no slicks, no race pads. You are a homosexual man twisted by all season tires and street parts into a crude mockery of racing perfection.
Your parents are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “Car friends” laugh at your all season tires.
You will never be a real driver.
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>>29052215
>Nobody sells corded race tires.
>b-b-but do you have a pic of....
Just take the L and move on.
EVERYBODY sees that youre clueless poser.
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>>29051584
Those are chunks of rubber picked up on the track, not bald spots...
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>>29052224
>nobody sells used race tyres
>race tyres are actually BETTER when they're slightly used!
what happens when they get past slightly retard-kun?
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>>29052228
People rarely sell GOOD used race tires.
The OP is a great example, those tires are actual trash.
Are YOU going to spend 4 grand on a set of tires then sell them for 200 bucks when theres still life left in them?
Anything used for sale is either someone who got out of racing (rare), tires that have heat cycled past their operating life and are worthless (common) or tires that have been ran til they died (OP)
Race tires have a break-in. Nobody wants to run brand new tires every lap.

Go do some research on the subject and educate yourself.
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>>29052227
Youre a dumbass.
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>>29052249
That's a chunk of rubber, I can tell you've never been around race tires
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>>29052264
Thats burned through to the first layer of belt.
Mickey Thompson made a tread pattern just for us.
Youre in way over your head here little kid.
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>>29052269
that's cool lil bro, it's still just a chunk of rubber
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>>29052245
>nobody sells good race tyres
>ok they do but not very often
my my look how the goalposts have already shifted
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>>29052300
>10 square inches of rubber "sticker" on the tire.
You really are a fucking idiot.
If you honestly think thats true then I pity you.
>>29052305
You get like 1 guy a year thats selling out his inventory because hes tired of the money pit.
Hey guess what- people win the lottery too.
So go buy some tickets.

>hey guys I have these drag sticks that cost me $900 a piece but theyre still totally good and you can have 5 of them for 200 bucks...just because im a neat guy.

https://auto.howstuffworks.com/auto-racing/nascar/nascar-basics/nascar-tire5.htm
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>>29052362
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>>29052362
>>29052365
Notice the light color when the wear penetrates the tread to the first underlying layer.
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>>29052362
Or all those other guys who, by your own admission, want to get rid of their tyres once they get past slightly worn because fresh tyres will shave .001 seconds off their lap times.
Yes there are plenty of those guys in all amateur racing.
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Fine for burning them up and not giving a shit. Horrible for performance.
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>>29051497
>Guy who knows nothing speaks, it's time to listen.
No one is using tires like this for anything other than track time, I promise you. No one at a national competition license is using these tires even for testing. They run new slicks every single out, rules permitting. These are junk and priced accordingly. New tires are a second a lap.
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>>29052376
No, fresh tires can be easily a second a lap. They run freshies every single outing on a race weekend within the rules. Outside of the cost of the car it is the single largest expense, besting even travel. The sets get saved for practice, they'd only be sold at their absolute worst.
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>>29052429
>The sets get saved for practice, they'd only be sold at their absolute worst.
[citation needed]

Plenty of guys sell them after 1 meeting
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>>29052430
The citation needed is me, someone with more experience at the highest level of US racing than your entire bloodline will ever have. These are junk for anything practical outside of track time. Cycled sets get wrapped and used for practice, otherwise it's a new set for each timed outing.

>1 meeting
what does this even mean track day paying normie
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>>29052376
>dumbass doesnt know what hes talking about and is trying to decipher previous posts to save his ass and come up with something else to say.

New tires suck.
"Slightly worn" is when they start to hook up. That doesnt just stop a lap later. Manufacturers design tires to grip til the end on race day. Which is why you see tires explode on front runners in NASCAR- the grip was there until the rubber was gone because they were trying to stay in front and didnt pit and they hit belts.
Yes there's overheating issues also where the tires sweat and become "juicy" and thats why there's professionals in the pit crew deciding what compound to run based on weather and track speed / condition / blag blah blah.

If youre in a short-circuit class then you can hit heat cycle issues where theres tread left but the tire has morphed into Lego plastic because you did 10 laps and the race was over.
Repeat x5 weekend warrior on boomer payroll.
Basically did- Warm up > Race > Cool down > Trailer.
Tires still have rubber but are trash.
>do you want to buy tires that a racer is selling because theyre trash?

OP (that this thread is about) are actual wall hangers.
They have no value on track.
Why is there 5?
Because theyre all fucked up trash that hes been storing all season as he burns through them after he ran them to the end of their service life and hes trying to make a buck ($200) off some dumbshit that sees "race tires!!! 200 bucks"
>b-b'but people will swap out tires for that .001 second advantage!!
Not in the real world.
Sure theres always some trustfund douche but youll never see him. And he doesnt care about 200 bucks so those tires are just tossed in the dumpster.
Thats reality.
Everyone else is getting everything they can out of their equipment.

So ya.
Do I know something about racing?
Sure do.
I built about 200 of pic.

Want to talk more shit?
Come prepared.
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>>29052435
Your citation that people don't sell them
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>>29052437
>do you want to buy tires that a racer is selling because theyre trash?

Yes lmao wtf do you think this whole thread is about?
Sure they're """""trash""""" for racing because they've hardened up and they're .001 seconds a lap slower on the circuit, but they're still awesome tyres for someone like OP.
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>>29052438
I'm sure they sell them, that has nothing to do with whether or not they aren't total fucking junk, which they are. You'd legit be better off with an off the shelf chinese semi slick.

These are for ricers and burnouts and shit. I don't pay for track days, I get paid to teach at them, literally. These things are hard as rocks.
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>>29052458
Yeah yeah yeah I know I know buddy
.01 of a second slower is absolute junk in your racer world
but in the world of people like OP who wants to mess around in his miata on a track, those tyres are awesome.
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>>29052469
.3 is the grand canyon, these tires are at least a second slower. These are rock hard man, you've clearly never touched a race tire, they go from play-doh to granite in like 2 legit cycles.

I'm all for grabbing them and testing them out and using whats left but they are no where near good.

A good heat cycled tire has about 10 minutes on it maybe less.
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>>29052445
>they're """""trash""""" for racing because they've hardened up and they're .001 seconds a lap slower
Umm.....
Did you read the part in my post where I mentioned Lego?
That wasnt some cute facetious joke. They actually plastize from heat cycles and turn into a hard plastic compound that is no longer "rubber".
Thats just physics 101.
Chinkshit Linglong tires from walmart actually grip better at that point.
Im not even exaggerating.
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>>29052476
I love old performance tyres, they're goated, the breakaway is the most beautifully predictable thing and they last forever.
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>>29052478
Yes yes I know I know the tyre which still has 90% of it's giganigga grip is absolutely trash to a pay-to-win club racer, but that's still a lot of grip for a humble miata enthusiast
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>>29052481
Nobody is selling their "90%" tires- because that edge was lost when they sneezed during a refuel and "90%" grip is for the majority of the tire's life. If they changed tires during a race...they lost the race because the pit stop was more time than "peak" tire performance gained from new rubber. Which they didnt even push because only a fucktard would assume that they're at some savant level where they know to push that corner because the tire has 3% more grip this time...
>im arguing with an AI that just watched Days of Thunder.
Youre buying 2% life trash because "omg!! race tire"
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>>29052514
Yeah you're right, people are selling their 1 meeting old tyres which still have 90% of their grip, because they're pay to win club racers who need to have 100% grip at all times so they can go 0.001 seconds faster than the other guy who has slightly less money to burn
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>>29052481
Post pics of your miata's rear quarter panels.
$20 says theyre smashed from hitting the wall coming out of the turn because you have shit tires and cant drive.
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>>29052518
Post link to people selling 1 run tires.
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>>29052519
Hello get mogged
Yes I love putting old rock hard performance tyres on my cars

Now show yourself not driving like a scrub (you won't)
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>>29052520
Wow that took me all of 2 seconds
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>>29052527
>tyres
>ebonics
>visible runout

Those tires are trash and you should feel bad.

>good for burnouts
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>>29052537
Yes yes I know I know
They would give you 0.001 seconds slower lap times so they're trash because greg puts all new tyres on his car for every race and you need to keep up with him.
But damn thats a lotta grip for $12.50 for a miats
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It physically wounds me to buy """"performance all seasons""""" that last 30k miles for $1200, I could never pay someone way richer than me a couple hundred bucks for fuck around tires.
Also who are these psychopaths with the patience to sell used tires to retards on facebook for literal pocket change compared to what they spend on their racing hobby
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this whole argument is retarded because the tires OP wanted to buy are obviously fucked
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>>29052616
Are they though? It seems highly unlikely that someone would try to sell tyres for $200 and hope nobody will notice how "obviously fucked" they are.
It's far more likely we lack the appropriate resolution to discern their true condition.
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>>29051584
we go through about 20 sets of hoosiers every weekend, buying and selling used tires is very normal lol. most guys want stickers for race day so they get rid of practice sets.
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>>29052616
there's like 10 sets near me for sale that are between 200-400 loonies, i wasn't going to specifically buy this set.
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>>29052264
That's a corded spot from locking up the brakes you nigger
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>>29052703

You can even see the darkened rubber around it. It could possible some material that they rolled on that has moisture but without better photos one must assume it is a flat spot.
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>>29052635
two of them have clear spots where they're worn through the tread, at best you get 3 tires that are on their last legs
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>>29052794
Once again - are they really worn through spots?
Is the seller really hoping that you'll just pay up your $200 and close your eyes when you come to pick them up?
Or are we simply viewing low resolution photos?
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>>29052796
What do you think they are, anon? People try to sell broken, worthless shit on marketplace all the time.
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>>29052801
Are these spots also worn through?
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>>29052803
You can see how those are not the same as this, can't you?
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>>29052808
No actually, I can't what that blurry mark right on the edge of the tyre that we can only half see is.
But occams razor would tell you that it's probably the same shit as whatever made those other white marks that we CAN more clearly see is.
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>>29052813
You should consider a visit to an optometrist
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>>29052821
shit you're right, I just put on my glasses and the giant squares are much clearer now
if only we could retroactively put some glasses on the camera to get a better resolution photo
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If you cant tell a tire is burned through from a photo or if you think its "a chunk of rubber stuck to it" then this board isnt for you.
>but this guy is selling $1,100 tires for $12.50! What a deal!!!
Theyre no longer "tires".
Theyre "tire shaped scrap".
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>>29052888
>NOOoOOoOOooO YOU CAN"T USE THEM BECAUSE THEY'LL GIVE YOU 0.001 SECONDS SLOWER LAP TIME
>THEY'RE SCRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>29052891
no you cant use them because they're flat spotted and almost worn through and will blow out if you try to push them
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>>29052813
>occams razor would tell you
...that you have never tracked without ABS.
That looks like a flat spot from locking the brakes when the tire was warm to me. They come in various shapes and sizes. Been there, done that.
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>>29053004
>almost worn through
Whatever you cope you have to tell yourself to pretend you're not retarded buddy
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>>29053023
notice how this tire does not have a flat spot with belt showing
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>>29052891
Those tires wont pass tech inspection.
You wont even be allowed on the track.
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>>29053026
Those are the $12.50 tyres you reference in your post
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>>29053039
That wasn't my post and those are not the same tires as the OP
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>>29053039
I guarantee they have issues that arent being shown.
Go buy a set and prove us wrong.
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>>29053047
>that wasn't my post
It's in this very reply chain lmao
Why are you jumping into reply chains if you don't want to continue the conversation being discussed?

>>29053070
>I guarantee
lol
Occam's razor will once again come to my aid here - does anon REALLY have the knowledge to guarantee something he couldn't possibly know? Or is he just some retard who makes retarded assertions baselessly?
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>>29053381
>Proven wrong
>Doubles-down
Never change, humanity.
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>>29053406
>proven
Going to hazard a guess you use this term as liberally as "guarantee"
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>>29053434
The OP pic had flat spots. Posting a pic of one that doesn’t doesn’t negate that.
I’ve bought used race tires before (guy was getting deployed), sold me 2 sets of Miata wheels with decent race tires and a toolbox full of tools for like $150.
I’m not saying OPs premise is fully wrong, but race tires don’t last long. Flatspots of hardening of the rubber.
It would have bee okay if you (and or others) didn’t pretend like flat spots weren’t flat spots - that makes you seem idiotic. All you had to do was say “yeah, it was just a random picture, there are better ones” but nooo you went with “those aren’t flat spots at all!”
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>>29053436
Wait I thought you said people don't sell good tyres, now you're telling me you've personally bought them?
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>>29053440
Youre talking to multiple people here.
We're saying that people arent giving away gofast parts for 1/10th their value.
The OP is 40 bucks a piece. If they were "good" tires he could sell them in the pits to other racers for $200 each and they'd be gone in 5 minutes.
The ones for $12.50 apiece is hilarious.
If you honestly believe those tires are worth a shit then you deserve to get ripped off.
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>>29053467
Yes I know I know, they're completely worthless because they'll lap the track 0.001 seconds slower than Greg's brand new tyres
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it's just bots in this thread at this point. it's hard to tell if those are flat spots or not but i've gotten rid of tires with similar wear. pic related got swapped out for stickers. still those are probably good for a track day if those aren't flat spots. i doubt you'll push hard enough to completely wear them down.
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>>29053506
Those would last 10 track days on a miata
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>>29052803
Those are bits of rubber debris stuck to the tire. Track tires get hot and sticky and will pick shit up like that.



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