911s are retard expensive now. Meanwhile a 2020 PDK 4cyl base Cayman is 50k. Should I go for one instead? I'm not a perfectionist. I just want a decently nice car to drive and look at. Is Cayman viable option now that only arab sheiks can afford 911? Also I think the car looks so nice in yellow, it just hits right.
>>29055799Why are you posting this image so much? What am I supposed to look at? Your ESL posts are not easily read.
>>29055793>I just want a decently nice car to drive>mcdonalds strutsid just get a 2003 nissan 350z or a g350, way better equipped than this rental car
>>29055810Ok and you're posting cars ten times above your pay grade. Get the fuck out
>>29055810>stanced vettericer
>>29055817Still costs ten times more than all your savings spic
>>29055817>The C6 Z06 is cheaper than the faggy 4cylinderletNo it's not. And the American crap rusts like mad at 20 years of age.
>>29055810>>29055823you do know that in the real world a ride height like this makes a car borderline unusable, right?
You need a bit of ground clearance if you daily a car. To much shit on the roads.
>>29055793>4cyl "porsche"Lelmao
>>29055831>>29055829The jeet spammer doesn't even own a car. He's just yet another youtube professional
>>29055832>What does the C6 Z06 being cheaper, Faster, Prettier,It's not cheaper or prettier. Also they're old as shit now and buying old American car is like marrying a 40 year old roastie thinking her ovaries still work as they did 20 years ago. Also you can't drive that American crap during the winter, it's a death trap. You can't daily it.
>>29055837>50k for a 2007 rusted out American car that's a death trap to drive the moment roads become the least icy/snowyNo thanks
>>29055839You think there might be a reason why old Corvettes hold their value and people are giving the Gaymans away? I live in Alberta and I see people with winter tires on their C7 ZR1's driving them year round. Sounds like you have some skill issues.
>>29055845A sports car =/= a racing carYou can't be planted to the ground on a daily. You'll fuck the car.
>>29055847>and people are giving the Gaymans away?Those Caymans increase in price year after year.Also America doesn't have real winters.
>>29055793Having the crank face the front like in the Cayman and Boxster makes a lot of physics sense at the cost of backseats, it's why these platforms are considered mid-rear engined, because the mass of the engine is inside the axle. The rearward facing crank of the 911 positions the mass further back than the Cayman and Boxster. You want the flat 6 motor however, imagine paying 50k for a base model 4 banger lol lel lmao
>>29055852It's true. The American sports cars are death traps half the year and they're not made for turning, just doing drag races like Amerimutts are so fond of. They weigh too much too.
>>29055847>people doing the absolutely dumbest nigger shit in canadian winter with their ZR1Just because people do this doesn't mean it's sensible. That being said, OP probably wants a yellow porsche to match his purse, so why all this psychic pain worrying about what that dude isn't even going to buy.
>>29055859are you like a copycat killer version of USG?He wouldn't be caught caught dead in a fucking curvette, UDM ONLYwhy even post that pikachu fucking monstertruck godsDAMN
>>29055859The C6 costs more in Europe and you can't drive it during a European winter and they're all old and rusted to shit anyways. Also the nonexistant ground clearance makes it a pain to daily.
I'm not spending 50k on a 20 year old American car that you can't drive most of the year. End of story.
>>29055874The Cayman you can drive the whole year. Germans build cars to withstand winter roads. Americans don't. Their cars, especially the V8s, are infamous death traps around here.
>>29055873>How come this cute chick is able to drive a Low car in the European snow?The snow looks very light and she probably just drives it to grab groceries 5km away from home. But she's also driving a German car so she's not on a death curse (despite being a 911)
>>29055883>>29055881Yeah that nigga doesn't dare go above 30km/h in those conditions if he's any smart
>>29055888Sounds like you should invest in some driving lessons before buying a sports car. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbL2B-MixsQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-55QUY0bw0
>>29055893>professional rally drivers exploiting the oversteer American cars to maxOk and?
>>29055881>car got stolen and driven at takeoversWowzie sure sounds fun owning an American import car driven by gangbangers!
>>29055793yeah go for it I guess, if that's you thing...
>>29055793 (OP)Do it OP. Maybe get an older one with a 6 cylinder. I test drove a Cayman gts but ultimately went with a 911 for the back seats. My kids love going in the back. Just ignore what most people say here. They're brown, drive a 20 year old bmw, and posts pictures of girls they don't know and cars they'll never own.
I was actually looking at those new A110s. The engine is dull but I am drawn to the 1100kg kerb weight for how useable it is.
Why is a Mexican Schizo crying in here?
>>29056020His sensibilities are so wigger tier it's almost comical. His act is always the same one dimensional shit too.
>>29056168>and what’s a “kerb?”I am unable to provide lessons for ESLs
>>29055823Lol you are a ricer
https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a73403248/3-year-old-used-porsche-911-prices-100000-dollars-more-expensive-since-2019/It's over. Nice cars blow up so hard in value I can't save up.
>>29056180>911Just get a 350z if you're dead set on v6 power, it's way cheaper and same effect plus the z comes with a manual. I think some models had a TV screen too you'd love it
>>29056182>spending more than 10k on a Nissan time bombNo thanks
>>29056184That C6 is wigger'd the fuck out. And what's your car again?
>>29056192Because you display wigger sensibilities so would be fun seeing your cringe ride.
>>29056186>10kyou can get a z for cheaper than that also the vq is known for its reliability, i dont think porsches can make it past 60k without shitting and pissing themselves.
>>29055793Test
>>29056196Another poster living in Middle Earth where V8s cost 500 bucks and you get a free blow job by prime Megan Fox thrown in as courtesy.
>>29056192>ebay wing>carbon fiber B pillar coverlol what a fuckin' ricer
>>29056207>MY FREAKING YOUTUBE CELEBS!!dude what the fuck is wrong with you lol, wrenchlet
>>29056216Riced the fuck out
>>29056203>temu angel eye conversion>ebay 3M glue on lip>>29056192>pep boys extend-o 3" muffler tips >rattle canned green calipersyou are a ricer
>>29055793Here's what you doYou buy a UDMYou LOWER it on KW V3s and DINAN sway barsYou have the engine BUILTAnd you go MOG the FUCK out of GAY as FUCK vagshit
>>29056232>Rattle canned wheelsRicer
>>29055864>UDMUruguayan Domestic Market?
>>29056180Just buy one. It's the cheapest car to own because of the minimal depreciation. It gets good gas mileage and routine maintenance is easy if you want to do it yourself.
>>29055793>a 2020 PDK 4cyl base Cayman is 50kSo if you're poor and already coping, why not just get an older Cayman with a proper flat 6 motor, then? It'll be cheaper and at least make the right noises.
>>29056245Look at that fucking MONSTER TRUCK
>>29056251Shut the fuck up little ricelet, gonna cut the springs on the shitbox that you don't own little faggot? Gonna argue "coils or bags" like some limp wristed spiclet? nocar wrenchlets are so delusional lmaoo
>>29056256Imagine defending putting a "sports car" on STILTS lmbfao
>>29056255>rattle canned wheels>nog tire sizing Ricer, simp
this is one of the worst threads i've read on this board
>>29056265>factory riceI'm talking about you dumbass wrenchlet lol
>>29055793never settle for a cayman. You're just shouting to everyone around you that you're too poor to get a 911.
>>29056289Still on maccas on all 4
>>29056245>Cayman with a proper flat 6 motor, then? It'll be cheaper>it'll be cheaperSure it will....suuuure
>>29056265>>29056281You do realize this Porsche is EV resto and costs like 500k? I like it a lot though but should have been a 10th of the price.
>>29055833Yeah, imagine
>>29055828>>29055843C6 Z06 and ZR1 have aluminum frames and plastic body panels so there's literally nothing to rust
>>29055927If a car was abused and is still driving fine, that only means good things about itEuroshit would blow up from being redlined for 15 seconds if the last oil change was 5003 miles ago
>>29056385This is why I only buy cars restored from car crashes. Survival of the fittest.
>>29056265>>29056281If EVs actually looked like this, people would like them. Now they all look like Chinese space ships with bloated chassi so they can fit in a huge ass battery. People would kill for normal looking cars with electric motors.
>>29056410For that, we have to wait until battery tech gets good enough for battery packs to be shrunk to the size of a fuel tank
>>29056412What's funny is that the 911 EV restoration gives about 200 miles of range on a charge. That's more than enough for a car like the 911. And this is probably not even using the latest cell-to-body technology which increases efficiency by another 30%. I think if Porsche really wanted, they could do it. But the 911 is precious and there's no way in hell they would risk its status as THE petrol enthusiast car. But it's been ruined by hybrid faggotry already anyways so I don't know.
>>29056410People love big tall cars THOUGH
>>29056413Nevermind the chassi is carbon fibre why they were able to make it work.
>>29056413They could just name the hypoythetical electric 911 something else. Like slightly shorten the Taycan and remove the rear doors and call it Taycan Coupe. But they are already making an electric 718 and I don't think there is market for 2 electric sports coupes, with the only difference being one of them being slightly larger and having useless back seats.
>>29056467Do you actually think that dumb Instagram whore is driving that 500k car or just posing for pictures? How stupid are you really?
>>29055793yes, a low spec cayman with PDK an excellent choice if you want to DD a sports carif it's going to be your second car I'd probably just get an ND miata though
>>29056287Porsche owners don't actually care though. I'd say cool car and give a thumbs up still.
>>29056482Do Porsche drivers wave at each other in traffic? I guess the sense of community has been diluted with the arrival of the soccer mom crossovers to the brand.
>>29055793>PDKUgh. No. Unless it's exclusively for track use, get a manual.
>>29056483Yes, but I only wave at the cars
>>29056483>Do Porsche drivers wave at each other in traffic? I guess the sense of community has beenlol theyre bitter little wrenchelts, they probably wouldn't waive at lower trim models and if its higher trim they would do everything in their power not to even look. Fundamentally gay cars though, every single one, automatic, mcdonalds struts and a hidden mystery meat engine.
>>29056245>>29056245Cheaper at entry, but depending on your goals, you're still buying parts and in most cases, paying someone to work on the car. If you're comfortable with DIY, and know how to get cheaper parts via the PCA discount, that's a best case scenario. But even if you bought a base 986 Boxster, it'll add up pretty quickly if you took it to the dealership or most shops for service.I have had my 987.1 Cayman S for over a year now, and it's treated me very well. I also had my oil analysis done with Blackstone, and received a positive analysis, meaning no engine trouble in the foreseeable future. I like it a lot, but also knew to buy it from a single owner, otherwise these can change hands a lot and it becomes a game of hot potato. It does make all the right sounds, and it's not much slower than my buddies in their 997s.
>>29056483Yeah. This guy's my neighbor and has a 991 gt3.
Did that mexican get banned again? lmao
>>29055833>>4cyl "porsche">LelmaoMust bee a Zoomer.One of the finest models of Porsche is the 944 Turbo.A 3 liter inline 4, and masterpiece for its time.
>>29056733>She drove in Le MansLink?
>>29056772Caymans are known to have hugely reliable engines too.
>>29055793I drove a 2018 Caymen S with something called "Sport crono".It was disappointing overall.wThe power is super lacking.Handling was meh.The DCT wasn't smooth.Who pays $40,000+ for these?The GT3s are hella fun.Not these Caymens.
>>29056786>Who pays $40,000+ for these?The people who don't want to pay $140,000+ on a 911.
>>29056786>The GT3s are hella fun.Old ass RS1s with a 5-pot are fun.
>>29055793Just get an rs3 if you want a kraut car, it's the only one that is a decent value proposition and it's not like the cayman is much lighter than it
>>29056786Disappointing compared to what? 2/10, see me after class. >>29057233Show us another picture of a slammed Corvette, even the jannies took out that trash. To answer the OP's question, I would recommend the 981 Cayman. It won't be as expensive as a 718, and you'll still have a flat-6 no matter which option you end up with. The engines from this generation tend to be the most stout of the bunch. 718s tend to not experience engine trouble, but have pretty brittle water pumps. For what it seems you want, that generation is a nice sweet spot.
>>29056786>The GT3s are hella fun.>Not these Caymens.Lol you're lying.As someone who has driven a GT3 RS and Cayman on a track day its actually shocking how well even a basic bitch Cayman handles.Truly under rated cars.
>>29057300981 gts or 718 gts 4.0?
>>29057304I've read the 981 GT4's 3.8 is more reliable than the new 718 GT4's 4.0, but that the 718 has much better suspension feel despite being 200 lbs heavier. Either of those cars will be an excellent driver's car. >>29057301This guy gets it.
>>29057320>>29057329The fetal alcohol syndrome babby doesn't know the thread is about someone looking for an ideal Cayman, and not posting slammed bailout cars with truck engines.
>>29055793
>>29057300>Disappointing compared to what? I drove a newer double wishbone GT3, CaymenS, e36 M3, e46 M3, e92 M3 V8 and a 1991 Camaro to a fun run autocross day.The M cars are fucking amazing.The LS7 swapped 91 Camaro was a bit understeer prone, but super fun. The GT3 was mind boggling in the braking zones. The rear steer is also a game changer in low speed turns.The caymen was kind kinda mid.Even the 91 Camaro was faster, although every car was heavily modified.>>29057301See above
I’m so happy I went with this built by bob mobile over a cayman The 7 speed manual is very good, v8 sounds fucking amazing, the car traps 128ish in the 1/4, and they have been holding their value better than any cayman under a 4.0I would buy a Camaro ss 1le over a cayman all day as well, and you can get a very mint low mileage ss 1le with the masterful 60/60 manual for 45k.
>>29057522>parking lot conefagging
>>29057531It was a track cross.So basically an Autocross setup at a local race track.It's a good balance of fun without needing extra insurance for a full track day.If you exceed 120mph the insurance triples for the day. Makes running the events way more expensive.But anyways, the caymen was MID.
>>29057522>See abovesee what, some guy who drove around a parking lot?
>>29057546Apparently you guys don't know what track cross is.Anyways, post a pic of your car on track.If you cannot provide a picture, your argument is invalid.& I will accept your concession.
>>29057323>>29057301>>29057300>>29057530Finally some good posts from actual drivers ITT
>>29056740SOUL
>>29057300>nooo any car that isn’t on stilts is sLaMmEdKek retarded nocar ricer
>>29057323Both have those are way more than $50k THOUGHAnd why are you posting a fuckin monster truck in a “sports car” thread?
>29056740Obvious ricer slowfaglet boyracelet poser
>>29057530Knower
>>29057304I drove the GTS 4.0 at PECLA and it was fun. Way louder inside than my 992. I'm thinking of going again to drive a GT3 to see if I want to buy one to larp as a race car driver.
>>29055793Of course you should buy a cayman. The cayman has a much better name than 911. Do you want to drive a number or an whole alligator island?If you get an even older one from the first generation you have extra money for aftermarket parts (look for some big swellers, bigger and lower bumpers) and some nice rims. Chances are higher you buy it from an enthusiast who lost all his money to a crypto scam. The car will be cheaper in maintenance. Then you can repaint it with another official Porsche colors, because yellow… it is not a Lamborghini. Unless you live in Miami or next to the Nürnburgring don’t get a yellow Porsche.Moreover you just saved 20k to actually visit the Cayman Islands and rent another Porsche there.
Cayman EV. It actually looks good, its performance will wreck the 2.0L version but of course weight might be a concern. EV coupes are rare.
>>29058086Better shot
>>29058086>>29058087Can't wait for it to sell 36 units
>>29058103Yeah it's going to bomb. The Taycan seems like a better car/EV in every way so only way this sells if it's retard cheap by comparison. But we all know Porsche and that's never going to happen. So it won't find a niche. I am actually fond of the idea of more coupes as EVs. The problem is that we're still 5-10 years away until battery weight and price issues are solved and we can have a true renassaince for affordable coupes again. Oh and Porsche killing the ICE Cayman means used values will continue to rocket upwards!
>>29058086>>29058087>Size of a 911Odd choice. Looking forward to them bringing the real Cayman back next year.
>>29058087>>29058086It's going to have an actual trunk?
>>29055835>The jeet spammerso is /o/ like /fa/ then where its just a handful of annoying spastics making the same spiteful threads over and over?
>>29058589It's just one spastic spamming the same ESL crap with images of women next to Bimmers. Jannies hit him now.
How fucked am I if I buy a 2008 6cyl version for 25-30k? Low mileage ones exist too.
>>29061529>2008M97 time bomb
>>29061547That explains why they're relatively cheap I guess. I guess no shot for 6cyl for me
>>29061529>>29061550You will see stuff like what >>29061547 said all over the internet, but for what it's worth, you can do a bore scope and whatnot prior to the sale. Granted it's not free, but if you want to drive one of these cars, you'll want to protect yourself from the outset. There's about a 10% bore score rate on these engines, but if you get the base model they're relatively worry free. Note that lower mileage cars can still go belly up also. For these types of cars, higher mileage means the internals are good and were used regularly. Fewer owners, service history, and doing a PPI or checking the car yourself is something you can universally recommend, but moreso on cars like these. Know that whenever you're buying a used performance car, you're going to want to refresh the suspension and other parts on the car, so have that budgeted.
>>29055793>voluntarily buying a yellow carYikes>Is Cayman viable option now that only arab sheiks can afford 911?Oh ESL, I get it.
>>29055793>Buying eurotrashThey charge you a monthly fee for auto start and heated seats. Trash cars
>>29055793Go for it OP. Cayman is cool and if you like it that's the most important thing. Bit don't buy new. Depreciation is insane. Get something manual.
>>29061561Both of those are NARP (Not A Real Porsche).
>>29056477Solid take
Cayman's the based option since they're closer to the size of older 911s
>>29061759New cars have gotten fat as fuck.