I'm just a tourist here with a car related questionHow come car tuning fell out of fashion so hard? Is it considered cringe now? is shit like Nos and Neons and Decals illegal now?
>>29059125tuning didn't fall out of fashion, the cosmetic enhancement stuff just got more subdued. It's far more expensive to modify your car these days so most people just get a wrap, a wing, or a carbon fiber hood like your OP. or maybe they just stance the car but leave everything else stock. but you don't see crazy outlandish stuff straight out of need for speed much anymore.
>>29059125>How come car tuning fell out of fashion so hard?It didn't. Do you mean adding big gay spoilers, body kits, and faux-carbon fibre hoods falling out of fashion?>is shit like Nos and Neons and Decals illegal now?No, in some parts of the country underglow is still a thing; typically just super bright lights in wheel wells is what lifted truck/jeep owners do. Once people realized adding a bunch of decals just wrecks the aesthetics of the car and doesn't mean you're sponsored there wasn't a point in putting decals all over your car.
>>29059125>How come car tuning fell out of fashion so hard?The same reason people don't wear Ed Hardy and Hollister anymore - trends move on. People still customize and modify cars, but with overall much better taste than what we saw in the 90s. It's all trucks with the stupid rice now. It's funny, because people were building sick trucks in the 90s. The situation has flipped.
>>29059125>How come car tuning fell out of fashion so hard?there was/is a california apparel company called illest who fucking molested car modification culture with their fashion brand bullshit. They turned modifying cars into accessories similar to how a woman carries a purse. Everything was "follow my insta bro" while they hack the springs off their mint s chassis. Then we got takeover kids, browns, blacks stance and female influencers hopping on the bandwagon. take a look at this photo for example and peep the demographic. >Is it considered cringe now?Any track car can be a show car but not every show car can be a track car. Show cars are gay as fuck and if your mods aren't at least somewhat functional they're gay as fuck. If your mods take away from the function of the vehicle even more so gay as fuck. >is shit like Nos and Neons and Decals illegal now?Decals were never illegal as long as they don't block your sight, NOS was always illegal (provided it was hooked up to your engine) because keeping a flammable liquid under pressure is bad for rescuers pulling your corpse from a flaming wreck. Neons were always illegal because your front lights have to be white, and rear facing lights have to be red, and other colors are reserved for snow removal/emergency vehicles etc. you can actually get away with it you comply with local lighting regulations but it would look stupid.
>>29059144>NOS was always illegalNo it isn't. >because keeping a flammable liquid under pressure is bad for rescuersYou mean like gasoline, propane, hydrogen, and many other things that aren't illegal?illest didn't ruin car modification culture, it just got to be obnoxious when guys were putting the cheapest wheels and suspension on and though "illest" was a funny word to describe their car. Every notice "ill" isn't used to describe something as "sick" or cool anymore? It was just overused and you got upset about ever dickhead on the road having that decal next to their Supreme decal. How do I add a filter for people like you?
>>29059125>How come car tuning fell out of fashion so hard?Simple, there's no new cars to be tuned.The cosmetic shit is still around, just more subtle as others have already said, Rims are still huge business, specially for stancefags, lighting varies, but even back in the early 2000s, it was a thing done by a few people within the community instead of something everyone did.The real issue is that there's no new cars to be tuned. Modern engines are made for smog regulations and gas savings, any sort of stress lead to engines blowing up. The entire point of tuning culture was grabbing a used car that no one really wanted anymore, and turning it into your childhood racecar dream. The only new cars to come out in recent years are the Toyobaru BRZ, and the Elantra N, everything in the last few decades is either 60K for the "enthusiast" version, or 4 cylinder turbo pieces of shit that are weaker than a 90's honda civic with an aftermarket turbo, and all the flash without the muscle under the hood was treated as what it was: Posing.No one wants to be a poser, only rich people can afford the real tunable cars now, so the hobby died out. There's a reason why the only remaining tuners are fucking instagram whores now.
>>29059154I'll admit I was wrong, I thought it was always illegal to have it hooked up to your engine. apparently not. >You mean like gasoline, propane, hydrogen, and many other things that aren't illegal?but this argument is retarded. there's a difference between having engineered gasoline tanks and lines designed by professional engineers and are certified by government bodies vs having joe blow run nos lines to his engine using home depot plumbing. It's also why i said it's illegal to hook it up to your engine vs just transport it.
>>29059125From what I've observed ricing culture never went away. If you go to a ghetto car meet where they all come together, it'll really put into perspective that it's not really dead. Cars are expensive but I've noticed that today's base model Civics and Corollas have basically traded places. Civics now are pretty expensive but Corolla's lower trims are cheaper, and that's why I see so many ghetto clapped out Corollas but not as many Civics. Also this depends on where you live.
>>29059174You're now manually aware nitrous oxide isn't even flammable. It still isn't illegal to install nitrous to passenger vehicles or transport it.
>>29059174Nitrous oxide isnt flammable, sweatheart.
>>29059125most of those cars just look tacky so you'll still see them in low income areas across the world.
>>29059183>manually awareas opposed to automatically aware?
>>29059260Correct. That kid spends hundreds of hours pretending to be a car enthusiast while getting everything wrong about cars. Typically while discussing cars and being exposed to them for years you kinda just automatically pick up certain knowledge. He just doesn't.
>>29059265>getting everything wrong about carsMy car gets the same lap times as cars 2-3x the price, kinda hard to do that while constantly being wrong or a larper. It is however, much easier to be a larper when when all you do is project on 4chan.
>>29059125Police cracked down and murdered it.Cars got more expensivePeople became more risk averseYoung men became more insecure in their masculinity so focus shifted away from trying to look cool in a sports car to trying to look tough in a 4x4.
>>29059317>Doesn't understand why his $30k shitboxe has same lap times as $100k porsches. Keep larping I guess
>>29059125It never went away, things just changed. The thing about tuner culture from back in the day was because there was a time when cars were cheap and left a lot of performance off the table for the sake of reliability. Nowadays cars are optimized to the point you can't really squeeze more performance out of them, especially considering how much more optimized they are, extracting 2% more performance becomes an exercise of diminishing returns and sacrificing reliability in modern cars. To top it all off, cars are regulated and locked down so hard now they might as well be considered appliances. The only people left in the tuning scene are the hardest of hardcore tuners building their own ecms from scratch and building custom fuel and ignition maps and shit. The other people left are influencers pretending to be hardcore just doing bolt ons for video>t. old school 00s tuner
>>29059672Also carbureted boomers still tuning through jets, were still around. Dad taught me carbs and I still tune carbed bikes but I can't say the same for all 00s millennial tuners, most of them were never taught carbs
>>29059125Car tuning went the same place overclocking did.
>>29059713Damn you're right
>>29059713undervolting seems to be the thing now
>>29059174What a retard. Muh authorities. All that shit is repaired by drunks like me, and an lines are used on helicopters. It's not illegal to plumb your own car.
>>29059317>Shitty Trip fag>Shit takes>Shit tires Checks out
>>29060785Appreciate your efforts to shit on tripfags
>>29059154>Every notice "ill" isn't used to describe something as "sick" or cool anymore?that was a thing? wtf lol. was this an american thing? never heard ill be used in this manner in oz
>>29060803It's been around for a long time. Licensed to Ill was in '86.
>>29059125Have you never been to a modern car meet? "Car tuning" aka rice is still in full effect. Lots of people run RGB lights in the wheel wells and under the car and decals are still a thing only they cover the entire vehicle now (a wrap).
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>>29059674In all fairness, what value does that skill have for a car owner these days?
>>29060939i could probably see patience with all the trial and testing, and appreciating the process of elimination, and how long that can take and why it's a good idea to change as few variables as possible so you can really troubleshoot and narrow things down instead of chasing your own tail.
Almost all of the large tuning platforms have stripped away access to stock ecu tuning unless you are a "protuner." The only way to tune your own car these days is to have a car with open source support (evoscan, romraider, atlas, hondata) or you have to go standalone.
Tuning to me is putting on good parts that actually help. Get cool wheels, a spoiler, etc and an actual ecu/tcu tune and you're good. "tuning" doesn't = rice to me.
>>29060969Real answer.Unless you're willing to overhaul the ECU and the potential wiring harness of most vehicles it's pointless to try and do any tuning at all these days. Modern OEM ECUs are really difficult to handshake and get to be writeble with non-manufacturer tools/hardware, and that's not even taking into account that there are cars as far back as the late 90s with ECUs you can't tune due to being OTP ROMs with locked memory, requiring you to modify the physical ECU motherboard itself with a writeble chip unless you want to pay 2k for an aftermarket ECU alongside an adapter for or a totally new bespoke wiring harness. All of that to just make it so your electronics won't push back on hardware modifications through retarding engine perfomance to fall back in line to pre-programmed spec, along with the shit ton of fault codes that get thrown out.I have legimately seen people do carb retrofitting on some SPI/MPI engines just so they can actually tune the engine easily and not go through the hassle of tackling the ECU.
>>29059317Enjoy when your 14 frs gets low oil pressure and nukes itself under the boost you added. No sump, no chance.
>>29059125>How come car tuning fell out of fashion so hard?Tiktok and other social media has rich zoomers buying cars for the sake of trend, buying out old 180SX for 10s of thousands, drift it, and destroy it.
