Is Fumoto the best option for an oil change where you don't get an oil bukkake?
>10 cents for a pair of gloves>$40 for the cheapest oil valveso 400 oil changes before it pays for itself x 5000 miles per changeyou have to drive 2 million miles for the valve to break evenalso it hangs down further than a drain bolt, raising the chances it is broken off by a rock or stump, draining all your oil without you knowing about itverdict: stupid/10
>>29061971The only situation where they would make sense is if you got a really cunty oil pan that directs the stream of oil onto a crossmember or exhaust pipe. A hose would make that cleaner. Otherwise it's probably better to just learn how to outsmart a stream of oil. Also what's the point when the oil filter still makes the biggest mess?
>>29061983+1Plus every modern car has some gay splash shield that requires removing multiple fasteners. Why add an extra point of potential failure instead of unscrewing one more bolt?
>>29061975Its not about saving money you penny pinching miser. I can attach a piece of tubing to the valve nipple, insert tubing into an empty oil jug, and drain the oil without burning my hand, rapping my knuckles on anything breaking the bolt loose, getting dirt in my eye, or dealing with an oil pan since I do it on my garage floor. The only thing I have to clean now is the tubing if I really feel like re-using it, or I can just toss it in the oil jug as a treat to the recycler. Then on top of that I never have to worry about stripping a drain plug, cracking a plastic oil pan, torque values, copper washer seals, anything. Its just a valve that werks. Thats not to mention the undertray panel I don't specifically have to remove anymore because the hose can be attached through the access hole now. Its a matter of convenience and cleanliness. The first time I used mine I didn't go through a whole can of brake cleaner or simple green cleaning up the tools, oil pan, engine bay, or garage floor. I didn't use 37 blue shop towels, or a couple pairs of gloves. I only needed the filter wrench and a light as the necessary tools.
>>29062320>The musings of a wrenchletlmao
Oil extractor wins on a car that has the filter accessible from the top. No need to lift the car in the air at all.
>>29062333>I do things the hard and messy way because I'M A REAL MECHANIC!Okay jethro
>>29062354Why are you so mad and insecure? Buy the toy if you want it so bad.Most men don't see the need to spend $40 when they can change their oil without spilling it everywhere like a chimpanzee.
>>29062370>Why are you so mad and insecure?You're the one that started name calling because I did something with my vehicle. >most menHow would you know and why are you using woman logic of relying on consensus?
>>29062320>it hangs down further than a drain bolt, raising the chances it is broken offyou didn't address this point, which on its own is enough to make me avoid this productalso it adds complexity and failure points to something that is and should be dead simple. Could a raccoon open it when it grabs for the shiny thing?
If you can't remove your drain plug without covering your hand in oil you're a retard.
>>29061971Do Fumoto even make a 1" 1/2 sump plug?
It only makes sense to me to get one if the vehicle has burly aftermarket skid plates that protect the area much better
>>29062334my engine has a top accessible oil filter and enough ground clearance I can slide underneath and work on it with no lifting
i have skid plates and a fumotoi use the L-shaped valve on the rotatable banjo bolt to ensure good clearance, my car is smashed n' slammed and the front skids get bashed up really good. never had an issue.quite frankly if you are driving a low-enough car hard enough to have to worry about whacking your oil pan, much less its bolt on things you might need to rethink your stance setup, there's definitely some cars it would be bad to even put the l-shaped fumoto on because of where the drain plug is located, but that's not all use cases. for most cars you are going to trash your front subframe and break other parts before there is a clearance issue with a drain valve. at least on my car my power steering rack is in more danger than the fumoto valve is.
>>29062397There are adjustable ones that don't have to extend straight down. A normal drain plug can be improperly tightened and fall out completely, and this is a ball valve like every fluid valve you've ever seen, the drip you have shown here is likely from a freshly shut-off valve that just had some surface tension holding it up. But yeah, let's risk stripping the oil pan threads and have to keep fucking with crush washers. Also, let's drain into a big slop bowl and then have to painstakingly put that into a container so it can be disposed of vs. just running a hose straight to the container.>>29062334I looked into this, but none of my cars have a topside oil filter (until I install a relocation kit to my skyline) and apparently not all dipsticks allow the plastic tube to easily get to the sump if they have lots of bends that the dispstick can snake though.
>>29062397>you didn't address this pointI have a vehicle made this millenia that doesn't stick the drain bolt right there so its not something I had to consider for my specific vehicle or many others. However if I had to hazard a guess thats still above your k-member and you'd have to severely bottom out the vehicle before it became an actual hazard. I can support this rebuttal by the condition of your oil pan in that photo, it doesn't even have a scratch on it suggesting a rock or tow strap has never whipped up and touched it. >also it adds complexity and failure pointsIt doesn't. This is wild speculation because its different from a bolt. How many people on /o/ have stripped out an oil pan bolt thread? How many people on /o/ have lamented the last shop to work on their car or a car they just bought was torqued with far too many uggaduggas? Or permanently sealed with some epoxy or silicone to stop the leak and sell the stupid car? Probably a lot. How many people with newer vehicles fitted with plastic oil pans have cracked them or stripped out the brass insert? A few of the early models at least. >Could a raccoon open it when it grabs for the shiny thing?No, the lever itself has a spring and a shelf. Plus theres a plastic clip that helps keep it in place as a triple failsafe. How many other shiny things do you know of where a racoon is grabbing and wrecking on a vehicle?
>>29062478well argued, whoever pays you to shill is getting their money's worth. I'm stuck on raccoons because I had to work on my mom's storage building roof last weekend and they've been living and shitting up there for years and I can still smell it just thinking about it.
>>29062513>well argued, whoever pays you to shill is getting their money's worthI'll give you a pro tip, not everyone who enjoys something, a product, an idea is a paid shill.
>>29062517and yet this is not a denial
>>29062517And yet you came on here to mention it by the brand name and to argue in favor of it against random indians and bots. As a large language model, I do not understand why you would do this for no monetary compensation.
>>29063078Because Fumoto is a specific type of oil drain valve, I was open to hearing if there were other brands/models/types that do the job better. They seem to run roughly uncompeted, possibly due to extensive patent protection.
>>29063737A lot of rental fleets run these on their 5 ton trucks. They're a lot lower profile and seem better engineered than a fragile external valve.
>>29062407Don't care. Keeping mine old school. Likely flows out better too.
>>29061971Is this really something that enough people have trouble doing that a product exists to "fix" the problem?
>>29061971The main complaint people have with drain valves is that the threads stick out too far, and the residual oil on the bottom is usually the stuff with metal particles in it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kia-AJfUNhw
Lol they sell locking clips to these things as well, talk about reinventing the wheel.
>>29061971Stand/lay behind the drain plug rather than in the direction the oil will flow out of the plug when you remove it. I have never gotten oil on myself doing it that way. I had a coworker who learned the hard way to do that with the nasty sooty black oil from a diesel truck. He got absolutely fucking soaked from his hair to his waist and had to drive home shirtless and go take a shower with lots of vigorous scrubbing to get it all out.
>>29063751Looks cool, but can you also fill the oil pan with it?I have a pressure fillerWould be baller to use it to fill oil up from below.
>>29063850But the normal drain plug threads aren't at the extreme bottom in many cases, either, so it's splitting hairs. That's also what the oil filter is for.
>>29063751But now you have to have a secondary part you have to keep track of, etc.
>>29061971I use these and they're pretty clean. My garage gets hit with leaking hydraulic fluid instead. I just use the bioremediation powder and clean my concrete that way.
>>29063931I don't see why you couldn't. Not too sure why you would though. >>29063941Attach it to your oil filter wrench or something. Worse case you just use it like the normal drain plug.
>>29063781>Likely flows out better too.Oh, fuckin' boy howdy does it.
>>29063989What a fucking mess. Why would I not just pay a wagie to do this shit?
>>29063991Can't you answer your own question or something?
>>29063989this was sloppy technique plus inappropriate oil catch basin. Pressing the drain plug into its hole while unscrewing would have let the person hinge the plug away from the hole at a time of their choosing, and those 1 piece drain pans suck for catching oil in exchange for easy transferring to another container.
>>29061971I use a fumoto and use a length of hose that connects to a pneumatic fluid extractorliterally zero mess, it sucks the oil out in a few mins without even the slightest threat of a drop of oil touching the ground
>>29064043>Pressing the drain plug into its hole while unscrewing would have let the person hinge the plug away from the hole at a time of their choosingWhile that works for more modern plugs that don't need a 2 1/16 inch or 52mm wrench, I can promise you that having tried exactly that on our other flathead, it doesn't really work on these - all it does is leak hot oil over your hand until you yank it out of the splash zone. The bottom of the plug doesn't seal for shit once it's loose of the thread.>those 1 piece drain pans suck for catching oil in exchange for easy transferring to another container.That oil container has been perfectly fine for all of my oil changing needs until that Flathead, the reason it failed here was due to it having a drain hole roughly 1/4 of the size of the sump plug - the sump drained the oil *significantly* faster than the pan could. Next time I'm just gonna put the car on the ramp and use a bucket.
>>29063958Drain and fill on a T56 is annoying.
>>29061971how have they not solved this. literally just a valve before the hole
>>29064065Again. How do you take the filter off a non-Subaru without making a mess?
>>29063989Is it easy to find gaskets to that bigger drain plug version, mine has the earlier smaller one so I wouldn't know.
>>29064756Not that hard, but both our flatty's had copper crush washers, so I just annealed and reused them.
>>29064252take the filter off a toyota instead, and put a little cup under the drain
>>29063078>And yet you came on here to mention it by the brand nameI'm not aware of other oil drain valves. With Fumoto apparently being the most popular and simply working well, why would I mention other (literally who) brands?>As a large language model, IIts alright, you'll never be a woman either.
>>29064915Good. Why would anyone want to be a woman?
>>29064915Apparently there's a few different valves.I'm gonna try this one and see if I can also fill my oil from the drain as well.
>>29065027>OH SEE BUT THE CAP CAN UNSCREW ITSELF WITH VIBRATIONS AND DRAIN YER OILI've never actually heard or looked into other oil drain plug valves/devices.
>>29061971Trusting anyone else to do routine maintenance. It truly is the age of onions. Let me guess, you don't know how to maintain a property either.
>>29065036I see the pool is closed and the plebbits do not want to be called out.
>>29062320>burn my handsWhy would you do that? Are you retarded?
>>29065044Everyone knows you change the oil while the engine is running and at operating temperature.
>>29065032The cap doesn't seal that valve. It's got a ball valve inside.For $45 I'll try it out.
>>29065046That might be neat, how does the ball valve actuate to release the oil?>>29065044Even the grease monkeys at jiffy lube doing 200 oil changes a day will tell you its impossible to not get hot engine oil on your hands while removing a drain bolt.
>>29061971fumoto valves are for ricers who virtue signal about how much they work on their car. every single person i have met who has a fumoto valve has been an immense fag who's never done anything other than basic maintenance.for those who are so intellectually disabled they get covered in oil on all oil changes: break the bolt loose, then press on the oil plug while you undo it by hand.
>>29065081Anon, you have to understand that zoomers are scared of work. It simply comes down to unnaturally low levels of testosterone.
>>29065087anon, i am a zoomer. most of us are too poor to own anything that we can work on.
>>29065091we know, you gotta have that $12 avocado toast every morning and the latest iphone
>>29065094nah thats millenials, most of us just can't find jobs more respectable than burger king.
>>29065051>how does the ball valve actuate to release the oil?A fitting with a 1/2in hose screws into it.That presses the ball and releases oil.Maybe it'll be shit who knows
>>29065094>$12 avocado toast every morning and the latest iphoneWrong generation anon.
>>29065044If you burn your hands it feels like a stranger jerking you off. And you can pop the blisters for lube
>>29065081>Ricers2001 was 37 years ago, unc.>Never some more than basic maintenanceSo by doing the basic maintenance they don't have to do junkyard engine swaps into jalopies to keep them going like your shitbox? Sounds like the calves pay for themselves to keep a car doing instead of your superior advanced repairs
>>29065154phoneposter, kill yourself
>>29065160You've been online too long to recognize swipe autocorrect as phone posting. Take a break, realize there are different opinions you don't need to attack and there are things you don't need that are simply okay. Then get a fumoto to realize they're not that bad.
>>29065036Do you know what a Fumoto is, retard? It's literally something you do to make DIY oil changes easier/cleaner. I would just let the wagie get the oil bukkake if I was going to take it somewhere.
>>29063078I hoover my house and dremel parts when needed. Do you take aspirin for headaches?
>>29064252if anything it's one less mess to deal with if you have a drain valve
>>29061971the convenience is very comfy if you have a pan that doesn't make the valve poke too far out below it. you can use their fancier 360° units if space is tight or you're worried about clearance
>>29065204I vacuum my house and use both in-line and angle die grinders (of which a Dremel is one). I take acetaminophen for headaches because ibuprofen is not recommended when you have just one kidney.
>>29065091If you'd stop spending $50/mo on f1nnster's onlyfans that'd help you get ahead
>>29065051>its impossible to not get hot engine oil on your handsWhy are you doing an oil change (at home) when the engine is hot?
>>29065496oil is supposed to be changed hot, not full operating temp but after 5 or 10 minutes of driving
>>29062320Maybe you should learn to drain your oil properly if you're making such a mess.
>>29065466get the a c e t a m i n o p h e n
>>29064823best answer.
>>29065051>its impossible to not get hot engine oil on your hands while removing a drain bolt.You use a fluid extractor to get 90% of the oil out of the engine from the dipstick tube. Or you put a trash bag or grocery bag on your hand before you take the drain plug off it's last few threads, then use the oily bag when you throw away the used oil filter.I've done plenty of oil changes without making a mess of my hands. Which doesn't matter much anyway as you just need a slop sink and some dish soap available afterwards.
>>29065501What happens if it's not
>>29065988sediment and heavy contaminants stay settled at the bottom, to be stirred up and mixed back in with your fresh oil when you run the engine
>>29065501Hahahahahahahaha>plebbitors actually believe this.What a fucking moron.Who told you this?
Am I the only retard in this thread who feeds a tube down the dipstick and syphons out the oil direct-to-sewer?
>>29066041...it's pretty common knowledge
>>29066041Zoomers grew up without a dad so it's no surprise they will believe anything.
>>29066041Not hot but it should not be "cold", should be warmish.
I bought a valvomax because of this thread. +1 shillcoins to OP, but -2 shillcoins because I bought a different brand of meme valve
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>>29062320This guy gets it. My time is worth $40 through the life of the car easy. I've been wrenching for years. Every car I've installed them on (Subie, Toyota, Mazda) has never had them run lower than anything under the car. They are literally 3/4" at max. If some spike on the road knocks off the fumoto, I am glad its a $40 part and not anything even more expensive, because you're playing with fire if you ride over anything >10" over the pavement in the middle of your car brother.They do not leak and have never leaked. Don't even need to get your bare hand dirty to unlock it. I spent countless times fishing out a nylon washer that came off the drain plug in a shitty oil pan to know I never want to do that again. Fuck that and fuck you. I've fumoto for life.
>>29067401>If some spike on the road knocks off the fumoto, I am glad its a $40 part and not anything even more expensiveLike the engine you just roached because all your oil was dumped in 10 seconds while you were doing 70mph on the freeway and hit a chunk of 4x4 that fell out of Pedro's truck (?)>They do not leakThis is a false statement. The half dozen you've personally bought may not have leaked but they still have a failure rate and other people have had issues. The threads protrude into the oil pan which means you never get the the worst of the heavy particles out (carbon or metal shavings).Its a gimmick for lazy people. Theres a reason no vehicle manufacturer installs them from the factory.
>>29067501>other people have had issues.Who are these "other people" and why aren't they in this thread? Are they also in the thread of their engine seal leaking oil too?
>>29067501>The threads protrude into the oil pan which means you never get the the worst of the heavy particles out (carbon or metal shavings).this is stupid and impossible The half dozen you've personally bought may not have leaked but they still have a failure rate and other people have had issues.Name two.
>>29062320>a whole can of brake cleaner or simple green cleaning up the tools, oil pan, engine bay, or garage floor. I didn't use 37 blue shop towels, or a couple pairs of gloves.>consumables for a simple oil change holy shit. I didn't know someone could be this inept
>>29067511Youre a failure at life
>>29067511Now tell me how thick your oil pan is.
>>29062320ok buy it but it's still stupid, you're an idiot for caring how dirty the bottom of an oil pan gets
>>29067608what kind of horseshit ai garbage is that, look how wrong it is
>>29067611>you're an idiot for caring how dirty the bottom of an oil pan getsI don't care how dirty it gets. I care how dirty it is when I've finished the task and have to store the oil pan somewhere in my garage. I don't need it seeping oil to the floor, I don't want the garage stinking like a jiffy lube, and I don't want it staining something. Not everyone lives in a singlewide with a dirt driveway.
>>29067501Yes. I am aware that all parts have failure rates. I'd wager there are just as many oil pan bolts that get stripped off by wrenchers, and require expensive and PITA tapping. Pedro's 4x4 can just as easily shred your brake line, suspension rod, gas line, radiator, etc. If you're going to make up potential critical car damages, I can do it too buddy. Any 4x4 that will blow offf a 3/4" brass bolt inside a recessed engine cavity, will wreck anything at that point, and be far more expensive than an empty oil pan. Not an argument against fumoto. Plenty of auto manufacturers don't put their oil bolt the way you show in your AI scam pic (Volkswagen / Mazda /etc.) so a fumoto will drain just as well. PIc related. And in the example you show, oil is not being cycled at the rate you think in an oil pan and certainly not firing oil in a dredging motion DIRECTLY at the oil bolt location. Any minor dirt sitting around the bolt is staying there forever. Again, imagining a disaster situation that never exists because a Fumoto salesman fucked your girl back in the day.As a mechancal engineer in the car industry, I can tell you the decision criteria for whether to include something in a car is far, far removed from what you think the decision criteria is. Car makers fought tooth and nail to prevent rear backup camera's being installed even though they literally have hever had a single case of a child backed over by a car with one it. This is a $15 part, and it took the NHTSA FORCING them to do it with a literal gun to their head from now on.
>>29067627>As a mechancal engineerohboyherewego.tiff
>>29067627>As a mechancal engineer in the car industryI'm going to skin you alive and cover you in lemon juice and salt. You're the faggot putting bolts in inaccessible places making jobs take three times as long. Fuck you fuck you fuck you
>>29067627>I can tell you the decision criteria for whether to include something in a car is far, far removed from what you think the decision criteria is.Would you like to tell us what the real decision criteria is? Because if they did the illogical thing of fighting so hard to avoid adding a $15 part and a screen, whats the real logic here?
>>29067608>>29067610that's not what the inside of an oil pan looks like you goddamned monumental fucking dumb ass niggerfaggotyou don't just screw the cunt into bare metal you absolute spackle eating fucking moron there is a bung with threads welded on the other sideholy fuck go to school, turn a wrench, read a book, gain height and have sex.
>>29067608>no threads at all>hole is bigger than the plug>the o-ring is the only thing actually holding the plug into the panan indian detected
>>29067639Your pic shows beautifully why all those idiots are wrong suggesting its adding too much height to drain all the oil and oh god I sound like a bot. Regardless of any slight amount of shit left over in the bottom, theres a reason you start up the engine and get it all hot and cycle the oil passages. Its to help suspend all the bullshit in the oil you're about to drain anyway. It doesn't all fall to the bottom of the oil pan as soon as the engine shuts off and then its trapped inside the engine forever. Similarly, it'd be like lambasing the guys using those oil vacuum devices. >BUT ITS NOT SUCKING UP ALL THE SEDIMENT AT THE BOTTOMYep, because there isn't a flowing current of oil taking it all out of the drain bolt!If OEMs were really focused on boomer oil myths, they could install a resevoir above the engine and include a loud pump that injects oil at 100psi through the engine as the fuel pump engages and cite that annoying startup sound/procedure as a wear preventing feature.
>>29067644wrenchlets make a lot of stupid assumptions because they don't know any better
>>29067629>>29067635>>29067634Jim Carrey meme's notwithstanding, the automotive industry is extremely conservative and risk averse, with changes requiring multiple committees to sign off and implement. Dependent supply chains lobby extremely hard to keep their shit in the car even though its been outclassed or made inferior by technology. Especially when its the same union laborers.We deserve shit for a lot of the decisions in the industry, but poorfag memes asides, I am amazed at how fucking cheap cars are to buy considering the shear number of interdependent and highly reliable systems in them. A commercial boiler in a fucking hotel is literally the same amount of metal as a car, but costs like $500k+ plus tip with zero warranty or support. But thats a side issue.The car backup cam I cited s a perfect example of this. While including a $15 part is not problem, the wiring harness supplier has to now add a two way wire, and the AV unit supplier under contract doesn't want to have to put in a new panel and both will lie through their fucking teeth and exagerrate the actual cost so the middle manager car makers now think a $15 camera costs $1500 even though it doesn't actually. Lawyered up corporations will say the poor kids backed over by cars wasn't THEIR fault and only the drivers. They can drag this shit out for years. Finally, some consumers get together and lobby enough to get the government to implement mandates for these things through NHTSA regulations by using pictures of crying women and photogenic roadkill babies.Not saying its right or wrong, but saying the mechanical engineer designed the oil pan drain location EXPLICITLY to optimize dirt capture and removal is a big fucking assumption with no basis in any fact.Remember gentlemen, we have been using suitcases for over 800+ years, but only 40 years ago somebody said "hey lets put some wheels on these heavy pieces of shit". Assume the people in charge pic related
>>29067681>I am amazed at how fucking cheap cars are to buy considering the shear number of interdependent and highly reliable systems in them.The "computers" inside of them are basically running on 10 year old hardware at the very newest, but commonly 15-20 year old hardware. I've heard quite often it takes about $1billion just to redesign a car. Not an "all new" car, just a full refresh before the all new. And its something like $6billion for an "all new" whenever theres a new chassis. So I do agree with you it is a manufacturing miracle how cheap vehicles are considering the overall expenditure that goes into minor bullshit. HOWEVER, like you said if they're held hostage boy supply chain, unions, and corporate HR bullshit, all they're doing is adding cost for the sake of getting themselves paid. Fuck em. I know its bullshit because china can make aftermarket stuff that 'generally' just fuckin works now for basically 1/4 the cost of OEM. I get it, OEMs have to have engineers make sure it just fuckin works for a decade, but c'mon.
>>29067639>fully machined hex nut with zero welds.What a dumbass.Its like you've never worked.on a car before....
>>29067734it's weirdly hard to find a picture of the bung, with google's enshittification being compounded by ai garbage
>>29067734if you reverse image search this image >>29067739, you find the hex bung you replied to, apparently it's legitpic is a tahoe/yukon
Its funny reading post from faggots who are scared to get dirty or complain about stuff being too tight or not have torque wrenches. Getting dirty is fun, and why dont you have a set of deflecting beam old school style torque wrenches? Granted I obtained mine from a navy calibration lab after new equipment came in, but they're way better than click type wrenches that belong in the fucking garbage.
>>29067754>Granted, I got my tools for free and do my oil changes while on the clock as a welfare recipientOkay, Gomez. Not everyone is from Guatamala.
>>29067501>gimmickI don't think you understand what that word means.
>my idea of owning someone at an argument is to imply that I'm part of an oppressed underclass and foreigners run and make up my military and get free money for life while im a wage cuckYou gonna rant about all the women in your life dating black guys and how its so over and you're the ultimate victim? I don't see how presenting yourself as the world's most extreme loser is an argument, guess it must work well on /pol/
>>29067754Efficiency is king If I can save 5min per oil change I'll do it..t aerospace fag
>>29067707China car industry is going to run into the same problems that SV is running into with regards to data centers. These industries will become so large that they will become impossible to disregard with regards to the blue collar and local interests. Silicon Valley is so arrogant and have never been told "no" ever, that they cannot fathom why there is any resistance to their bullying on data centers. Except unlike a VC snorting coke off an asian hookers ass in Palo Alto, they can't just boss around a local building committee in Lubbock Texas. They actually have to go down there and charm the locals in person, skills upon which they never had to develop. As China gets richer, they will suffer the same problems. Its always easier to be nimble as a startup. The EU and Canada will absolutely horsefuck Chinese nimbleness with overlapping safety and compliance regulations in order to export cars to those markets.
>>29067771>Efficiency is kingThat would be less components with lower failure rate.I.E. a plug instead of an unnecessary valve with minimum 8 parts to it.
>>29064252>How do you take the filter off a non-Subaru without making a mess?Stab a hole through it and let it drain out that new hole first.
>>29068494>That would be less components with lower failure rate.What is the failure rate of a Fumoto valve? If your answer is "I dunno" or "Yeah but there are 8 parts that COULD fail" then its obvious why you simply do not understand.
Even my oil pan has a lot of threads on the bung, so it looks like the 'extends too far in and blocks crud from getting out' argument isn't very valid. I'm still sticking with the 'too easy to break off' argument though. I don't plan on bolting 100 lbs of skidplate onto my daily. Maybe if I ever build up a dedicated offroader.
lmao holy fuck look at all these results, there's even a broken one that drained out all the oilOP picked the wrong product to shill forjust give up dude
>>29068596I'm not here to sell you on one, but how far above is your drain bolt above the frame rail, k-member, or whatever else that'll hit a rock first, and how rarely do you even ever go off roading?
>>29067734that is the inside of a factory pentastar oil pan and i happen to own a pentastar powered automobilenot only do the threads for the pan extend far deeper than a fumoto valve even goes, the drain isn't even at the absolute bottom of the pan, even WITHOUT a fumoto valve there is at least a half pint or less of oil left in the bottom after every change. the fumoto actually makes it easier to evacuate that last bit of leftover crud because you can pour fresh oil in while the valve is open and close it when the flow turns from black to gold.
>>29068615>only broken one is a f*rd you get what you fuckin deserve
>>29068406people seething about data centers but not seething about amazon fulfillment centers or governmnet blacksites or other administrative waste are fucking retarded niggers who should stop holding us back and die or commit acts of terrorism to back up their words.
>>29068640>seething about data centers but not seething about amazon fulfillment centersIts the sifference between a pic&pull and a nuclear waste dump site.
>>29068617same pan seen here >>29062397 and >>29062408, 4runner with the 1gr-fe. I do occasionally drive on fun stuff but I want it to last, so nothing that touches underneath intentionally.
>>29068615>includes one working as intended lole
>>29063991>nuuuu my dainty fingers will get le dirtyyyyyy euuuuuuwAnyway there isn't a single shop around that's gonna be touching a flathead, and if they are you're getting scammed on boomer upcharges or they're going to destroy it because they've never seen one before.
