I feel like the electric driveline is vastly underutilized for small coupes. The battery would add weight sure but would imitate the mid-engine weight distribution fine. And a car that doesn't need to haul family also has lots of space to pack battery, and the low air resistance also means better range. As a Grand Tourer, a quiet driveline with instant torque is also really nice to have.Why haven't we had a coupe renaissance via electric?
Battery packs that are good enough to last 200+ miles are big. And they need to be shielded. They put them at the bottom of the car so the rest of the car is raised above that. Their motors and cooling systems limit good suspension. Their software somehow sends torque to the wheels that don't have traction. All this shit also gets in the way of a good suspension, they rely on expensive tires for grip. A tesla model y battery pack is over half the weight of an entire miata, over a thousand lbs. And that doesn't factor the driveline, motors, and cooling system. No doubt with coolant the battery pack is even heavier.If you need 1,200 in batteries to compete with a 2,200 lb car, it's not happening.
EVs are for jewish niggerfaggots
>>29063162 >Why haven't we had a coupe renaissance via electric?Hmm yes very hard to say
>>29063162It doesn't work with current technologyEx. A 500e is only ~400lb lighter than a GR Supra, and ~500lb heavier than a top trim Miata.Electric has no place outside cuckwagons, and despite the term that's actually a fine market to deal in.
>>29063162Whoa! No automaker has even thought of this yet you are brilliant. Please stop whatever you're doing right now and file for a patent, RIGHT NOW.Op is gonna be a billionaire!!!!
>>29063181Electric is also great, and perhaps ideal, for medium sized sedans. Lots of space to store battery and low resistance make EV sedans range monsters.
>>29063186If by "range monsters" you mean still short of a petrol (not even diesel) car with an average sized fuel tank then yes.
>>29063190Difference being that electricity is almost free compared to petrol and you can fill up at home.
>muh weight>muh suspensionshttps://youtu.be/kdWhT9mp7zYGo to 5:30. It weighs the same as OG 911
>>29063162This is small and ~2200lbs but it also has like 60 miles of range. The only way you're getting something light with realistic range is by using a multi speed tranny.
>>29063162E85 is carbon neutral.
>>29063244It absolutely is not.
>>29063235>multi speed tranny.Why.(almost) No one uses multi speed transmissions on electric motors.The advantage is negligible.
>>29063272How do we know the advantage is negligible if nobody has tried it? You know ICE's don't need gears either? Even a couple gears would reduce the load on the motor which would let you use a smaller motor and a smaller pack. Why do you think every electric bicycle these days is a mid drive?
>>29063205And has a range of ~15 miles. That 911 is fucking ruined.
>>29063289It has a 300 mile range according to the manufacturer. Which is probably even more than the petrol 911 given its limited ass tank unless you opt for the 64L option.
>>29063162Already exists, it's coming to Europe in RHD for the bongs as well.There's also the new A110, Cayman and Caterham at some point.>>29063275Can't they just use gears like the early Formula E cars?
>>29063388>ChineseBut hey it looks good in green, only weighs 1300kg and packs a punch. Tariffs are going to make it really expensive in mainland EU though.
lol fuck off faggot
>>29063162>catches on fire because 400-800v
>>29063408An EV less less likely to catch on fire than ICE or hybrid.
>>29063388The Asto- Caterham looks interesting with that familiar design and 1100kg of weight.
>>29063275a gearbox gives fuckhueg klosses on efficiencyin the first seasons of formula e some teams tried with 2 or 3 speed and it was worse than direct drive cars so it died downan electric motor doesn't have to worry about power band in any reasonable sense
>>29063275>How do we know the advantage is negligible if nobody has tried it?They use diesel-electric drivetrains on locomotives to avoid having to build a multi speed gearbox, and electric locomotives can pull thousands of tons from standstill and still go 300km/h without ever switiching a gear.
>>29063458That's a lie
>gay faggot shit could save us
>>29063162Batteries are too large and heavy and people have less disposable income for what’s essentially a toy. Maybe we will see a resurgence in lightweight sporty coupes once solid state batteries mature in 5-10 years.
>>29063162Years ago I saw a video about a guy making hub motors for cars. The idea is to replace the brakes with the motors for around town shit, and keep the ICE for longer trips. Seemed like a good middle ground.
>>29063605>Maybe we will see a resurgence in lightweight sporty coupes once solid state batteries mature in 5-10 years.Meanwhile, 9 years ago…
why come the japanese neva copied the 911?
>>29063629Look up the energy density of batteries today compared to 9 years ago. And cell-to-pack allows even more energy for less amount of weight. I don't believe as much in solid state meme as others as I believe NMC batteries are growing ever more energy dense that by the time SS arrives, it will be redundant.
>>29063634Japs are too proud to copypaste. The Chinese don't give a shit. They only care about results.
>>29063635>Two more weeks!
>>29063585For diesel electric it is just as much avoiding the transmission challenge of evenly distributing power between 4, 6, or 8 axles affordably and reliably even with bogies rotating independently on turns.
>>29063642It's already reality though>>29063388Porsche is also turning the Cayman into EV aswell.
>>29063388>>29063699They got around it by putting the battery packs behind the seats instead of under the cabin.I see weight distribution and safety issues with that but I'm interested to see how it turns out, that could be the magic sauce.
>>29063512>an electric motor doesn't have to worry about power band in any reasonable senseYou don't understand how motors work. When you load them up and lug them down they pull extreme amounts of current. >>29063585Diesel-electrics have a 150 liter engine and a massive generator feeding the motors all the current they need. Completely different use cases.
>>29063634911 is a fundamentally retarded design, why would you make the engine completely inaccessible? Also McDonald's struts
>>29063162The configuration of the doors has nothing to do with the power plant under the hood
>>29063722Current EVs don't have a problem with low speed torque. So the batteries seem to be able to provide the necessary current.The few EVs that use 2 speed gears don't use them for low speeds but for high rpm, where some motors become less efficient - but there are other ways to deal with this like electrically excited motors.
>>29063634They had a bunch of beetle clones (rear engined econoboxes) in the 60s. Never a rear engined sports car though.
>>29063711Yes a two-seater coupe brings a lot of space to store battery, and should open up trunk space even more. The limiting factor will be weight. I don't think people should expect 400 mile light EV coupes. 250 mile is probably fine, so long as it can charge decently fast.
>>29063724The struts aren't even that expensive to replace. Irrelevant to cry about considering that.
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>>29063168SPBP
