What is a coupé?
>>29066024That is a gran coupe anon. Basically just a sedan with a slope rear
>>29066025The tranny of coupes. It will never be a real coupe.
>>29066054looking back was the original cls or the a7 a nicer design?also, will coupe-a-loons ever return?
>>29066054But gran coupes are pretty much the ideal car form. You get a hatchback trunk, lots of interior space and a nice aerodynamic shape.
>>29066066compromised headroom and interior space doe
>>29066066The headroom and interior space in A5 is more than enough.
>>29066080For>>29066068
>>29066066liftbacks are buns tho
>>29066024car with two doors and a trunk
>>29066106must it have a notchback trunk?
>>29066024A miserable pile of metal
>>29066064>>29066066Coupes are two doors.These are not coupes. These are kammbacks.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kammback
>>29066024This is a coupé
>>29066562I wish these would go away.
A dead and irrelevant genre
>>29066567hideous
>>29066064the a7 was the ugliest out of them all1st gen CLS the best lookingeverything else in betweenalso, CLS still exists, Panamera still exists
>>29068288I thought the CLS went away. >suv coupesstobbit's just fastback styling on a 4 door hatchbackcoupe means cut, chopped, shortened, this is the same length
>>29068290>it's just fastback styling on a 4 door hatchbackThis. The term is raped by these snakes.
>>29066025Stop validating retarded german marketersCoupes have 2 doors, period.GranCoupes are coupes with rear leg and headroom, like those American personal luxury cars
>>29068290>>29068301>>29068302Try not to get so mad over naming conventions. Everywhere, whether it's industries or cultures, shit gets misnamed in an etymological sense; and yet it gets picked up and sticks around. It's just the way language works.Everyone knows what you mean by an 'SUV coupe' now. Done.
>>29068304im not made over the name im mad over how ugly and useless "suv coupes" are its just a really transparent way to milk extra money from customers without even making something nice
>>29066024What color is that...?! Any Merc spec sleuths ?
>>29068304>just accept shit down your throatno
>>29066024A coupe with a spoiler
>>29068329check out le edgy stoic over hereno amount of your angry is going to change is going to change anything. end result is just you being angry and nothing else; i'd call that pretty fucking retarded
>>29068302>Coupes have 2 doors, period.>GranCoupes are coupesMake up your mind. If coupes have "2 doors, period" then a Grancoupe isn't a coupe because they have 4 doors. That's their defining characteristic.
>>29066106What about two doors and a hatch?
>>29066024>form purist, door rebel>>29066562>radical coupe anarchy
>>29068403Gran coupes are not coupes no. It's just a shitty name to imply the car has slooping roof line. It's more a fastback or sportback sedan.
What is first gen CLS like to drive and own? I always thought that they looked sick and I recently realized that I can afford (to buy) one
>>29068411thats not a coupe, this is
>>29068302>GranCoupes are coupes>>29068422>Gran coupes are not coupes
>>29066562no Anon that's a minivan>>29068411that would be a hatchback
This is why getting so hung up on labels is such a stupid practice. Just evaluate the thing for what the thing is.Who cares if it's a grancoupe or a sportback or a kammback or a sedan or a hatchback or a wagon end of the day it's a car. Specifically it's a 4 door car.
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>>29068470No it's a liftback, this is a hatchback.
>>29068544hiddy
>>29066025Thats just a liftback. Coupes don't necessarily have sloped rears.
>>29068396You don't know what stoic means you absolute retard.
>>29066024What is a woman?-WNBA
>>29068970An adult human who lacks a y chromosome in a majority of her cells. Jamie Lee Curtis is genetically a man.
>>29066024Originally, it referred to an enclosed 2-seater that was shorter than a comparable 4-seater. A 2-door with space for 4 seats was called a coach.
>>29069021crazy to me they refuse to make a 2 door car or convertible that *actually* can seat 4 adults in comfort I assume the S class coupe/convertible came the closest to that mission
>>29066025>>29066024Coupe is a two door car Sedan is a four door car.Conventionally a sedan is highish off the ground and the seat is high off the floor and upright like a desk chair. It has a rear trunk and roughly 60/40 split in front to rear passenger space.Porsche wanted to make a four door car but they wanted it to be fun to drive and ‘feel’ like a Porsche. Rather than relaunch the 928 two door they extended the wheel base and kept the lower body and more feet out lower seating position and then added doors for the rear seats. This is the start of the Grand Coupe. Usually the recipe is lift back sloped auto dynamic rear hatch. An extra inch of wheel base which is used for the rear passenger and the seating ratio is switched to 65/35. The result is a four door that FEELs like a two door coupe in everyway ergonomic and dynamically given the lower center of gravity. except you have some weight. Lately Toyota has been really fucking with things with the crown which is a grande coupe suv sedan blob. It’s got everything for everyone. Slope back sporty looks, sedan like size and seating and crossover height. Grand coupes are everything a coupe is except it’s not sexy. But it is extremely good at being practical and useful without giving up much fun.
>>29068403are you retarded or something.I literally explain right there what a GranCoupe is.A "grand" coupe, large and in charge so you can seat 2 adults in the rear in full comfort but still have two doors.
>>29069740>>29069746There's no such thing as a "grand coupe". The term is "grancoupe". It's a marketing term used almost exclusively by BMW to refer to 4 door cars.
>>29069828"Gran coupes" are basically BMW sportback cars.
>>29069949*fastbacksportback is audi marketing speak
>>29066024Coupé is French for cut (past participle as in to have been cut), and traditionally refereed to carriages with a cut away roof section compared to the full sized carriage, this lowered the driver to the same sitting level as the passengers but reduced the passenger space. The same concept persisted into the early eras of cars with the term denoting a car with the driver exposed and the passengers enclosed. By the 1920s the term was also used for cars where the driver was in the cab such as the 1921 LaFayetteFor more modern cars a coupé in the 1940s and 50's was simply a shortend roof length. In the 70s SAAB sold the 900 liftback as a coupé in 3 and 5 door forms.
>>29070121You can't even call them fastbacks. Fastbacks have 3 boxes. Some grancoupes are 3 box but some are 2 box. Further illustrating why all these marketing terms are utterly retarded.
>>29070231>Some grancoupes are 3 box but some are 2 box.1 box gran coupe is just a normal coupe
Wouldn’t the coupé of OPs generation just be the CL500?Two doors, no B-column. That’s a coupé.
>>29070339There's no such thing as "1 box". If you want to argue about definitions then at least learn them first
>>29070415I meant to say 2 box
>>29068411>>29068470>>29068544what is the precise rear door angle that divides a liftback from a hatchback?
>>29066024>>29066064>>29066066>>29066562>>29066567>>29068288gay>>29068411>>29068438>>29068544cool
>>29070699And what exactly makes a 2 box gran coupe a "normal coupe" in a way that a 3 box gran coupe isn't?Show me in this comparison between a 2020 BMW 2 Series Gran Coupe and a 2020 BMW 4 Series Gran Coupe, one of which is 2 box and the other one is 3 box.
>>29070727why is the paint such ugly colors
>>29070727The 2-series is NARB (Not A Real BMW).
