Do you actually torque everything to spec?
Probably more than absolutely necessary.
No. Anything valve cover bolts or more important, yes. I don’t even check wheels, hand tight, drive 15 min, hand check again.
>>29067881Pretty much this. Only important stuff with a gasket or bearings, and even then last water pump I did was fucking impossible to get tools in so I just gave it the ol’ good’n’tite.
>>29067878Depends. Is is part of or attached to the engine? Yes. Fairings and whatnot? No.
>>29067878I tighten everything to German torque spec.
I would like to have my coffee first before I talk to you.
it depends, you get an autistic feeling at some point where you know what's important to torque and what isn't. and you eventually learn by feel what certain torque specs feel like. and sometimes there's just not a good way to sneak a torque wrench in. blame shitty engineers for building shit without repair in mind.
>>29067911You can’t talk to someone without getting high?Pathetic.
>>29067878I have autism, adhd, ocd, and schizophrenia, of course I fucking torque everything down to spec with a calibrated digital torque wrench, I don't play around and if the service manual doesn't have a written torque spec, I go by bolt grade rating torque spec.
>>29067928I’ve been diagnosed with autism(in the 90s when that was rare), OCD, ADHD, major depression, bipolar disorder, schizophrenic, psychosis, anxiety, sociopathy, and antisocial personality disorder.I’m just a normal dude sad that life wasn’t what I imagined it to be. Diagnoses are mostly bullshit, don’t pin yourself into a corner and pretend you have to act out some exaggerated disorder. You got this, dawg. There’s a whole industry that profits off of telling people they have fake problems. Fuck that industry.
>>29067878Yeah I like hearing the *tick*
>>29067933I use those beam ones with a gauge you measure. I’ve actually never used one where you set it and it clicks after. I’m somewhat jelly, but I’m only a hobbyist.
>>29067878Very rarely. I abuse the fuck out of my cheap ass torque wrenches so they can't be fully trusted. I prefer going by feel and using common sense. Also keep in mind a torque spec is irrelevant if it's wrong.
Of course I do, because I love my shit. Yeah I can and have done torque specs by hand but for my shit. I always do it. Cuz its that good shit that deserves that extra 1% of effort
>>29067937i've got a beam one that clicks. very accurate and you really have to go out of your way to throw off its calibration
>>29067878Most of the time I do, I've been wrenching so long that I just feel how hard it was to break the bolt and tighten it back to however tight that felt. I do calibrate my torque wrenches every couple years.
>>29067878I build aircraft for a living, of course I use a torque wrench.
Wrenchlet here, do I just google torque numbers and trust those or is there a definitive source for it?
>>29068008Look up a factory service manual.
>>29067878No I work on aircraft and don't even do it there
>>29067878I bought a fucking expensive digital torque wrench so I'm gonna use that sumbitch everywhere
>>29068052I like how mine beeps and lights up
>>29068075>bing bing wahoo!shitposting aside it'd be very useful when you're tightening up a bolt blind or in a noisy environment. i don't like that it'd need batteries though.
>>29068052>>29068075I want one of the ones that can measure torque plus x degrees, even if I'd basically never use it
>>29068007What is it like building a jetliner? How streamlined is the process?I've been working on helicopter overhaul/refurbs which doesn't seem that far removed from building a new one from scratch, but it's a very labour intensive process disassembling and then reassembling all the components
>>29067878>Do you actually torque everything to spec?Something that people forget is the DIAGNOSTIC BENEFIT of torquing everything to spec. Therefore, if anything ever becomes loose in the future, you know that there might be a different underlying problem causing that properly torqued item to become loose.
>>29068132>pici feel like the btake bleeder kit could be skipped. makes it convenient, but a gravity bleed combined with some pedal pumping also works well.smol bottle of nail polish is unironically great for quickly painting exposed metal. cheap, dries in just a few mins and the coat is pretty tough.
>>29067878I just keep tightening until the heads shear off usually.
No I just tighten everything to the point that it stops turning
No. As a matter of fact, I have never touched a wrench in my life
>>29067928>>29067931>i have been diagnosed with a, b, c, d, e, f, g and h>that is totally relevant to the op btwkek maybe leddit is more your way if you guys looking for a safe space
>>29067881Big benzes that call for 105-130 lbft of torque do actually need it. A smaller breaker bar or wrench might be unweildy at reaching those numbers.
>>29067878>>29067880Pretty much thisAnything that has a gasket, drivetrain and suspension.
>>29067931Doctor here and some of the pressure is people constantly come to you with problems asking whats wrong and how to help. So you are expected to put a label on it to start a treatment pathway. It takes more experience to be bold and say someone is normal and suck it up and deal with life. You also can sound like an asshole telling someone to just deal with it. And every new patient is a stranger you just met with literally zero vetting and could straight up shank you or shoot you. It happens somewhat often. So the easy thing to do is to give people what they want. Not always as a pill pusher. But give a diagnosis. Recommend something. They need to leave your office with something. Ergo picrelated bullshit diagnosis of bullshit diagnoses.
>>29068332Also yes fuck this industry. It sucks for some patients. It also hollows out hardworking motivated and helpful and empathic people and pushes them to work past their limits to burnout suicide etc.I cannot even wrench anymore. I do not have time. I do not have time to fold my goddamn laundry. I am reachable by my job 24/7/365.
>>29067878Not everything just anything inside the engine (and timing), suspension and wheel related etcDon't even need to do wheel lugs but do anyway because its an excuse to hear the clicks
How do manufacturers/engineers determine the appropriate amount of torque for a given bolt
>>29067878grug no need tork wrenchgrug stronk, grug big stronkgrug make big ugga duggas until bolt not move
>>29068007as an yuropoor, how do I get into building aircraft?
>>29068716grug not even need be strong
>>29067881Wheel nut torque is significantly more important than the valve covers. However i have only ever used a trque wrench on head bolts.
>>29068121Likely the same shit.just the parts I get are 100% new.No removing anything >>29068717Does Europe even build anything?Idk senpai, that place is basically DOA from our prospective.I make $62hr, that's enough to feed like 10 euro families.
>>29067878yes, I know "handtite" is enough for 90% of cases but I do it mostly because ill be constantly thinking "was it tight enough? it might come lose" and that voice will be constantly telling me to just go and tighten it more and then I overdo it and break itSo I just torque to spec and I know im done with it
>>29068717Move to a place that actually makes stuff and doesn't just write bullshit legislation.
>>29067878Only wheel lugs. everything else i just tighten
>>29068238It's not hard to hit 120ftlbs with a normal 1/2 drive bar. The lug nuts on my truck spec at 140ftlbs, I had always just used a 24in breaker bar to do them hand tight, decided to put a torque tester on to check, it read 187ftlbs at the point where rotation began again. I have since started using a torque stick when installing to avoid the extreme overtightening I was doing. 100-120ftlbs is something you can do with a 3/8 drive ratchet and a normal socket. Be careful. It's far easier to overtighten than you'd think.
>>29068717Desult just sold a bunch of Rafeals try France
FT setting motherfucker.
>>29069148what's FT?
>>29067878No they just made the numbers up
>>29068801>Likely the same shit.>just the parts I get are 100% new.>No removing anythingI seeThe process is a little hodge-podge here. It's a 50 year old type and we're the only company still operating significant numbers of them; we just go off the manual/experienceAre you an qualified aircraft mechanic or is it a different pathway?
>>29069173Fucking Tight
>>29069330o rite
>>29068778>Wheel nut torque is significantly more importantlaffs in uggaduggajust don't go full retard using max setting blasting for 10s and know you're tools my 18v makita impact says 300nm for setting 1 so i've been using that + 1 ugga on 2>hurr you're gonna ruin you're wheels0 wheels destroyed
I have calibrated elbows.
>>29068332You’re not a doctor. If you were you’d mention billing codes.
>>29068238>A smaller breaker bar or wrench might be unweildy at reaching those numbersMaybe for you
>>29070125if i loosened that bolt with the torque wrench would it die?
>>29070042I'm a surgical resident I don't get into coding yet unless forced to. But this conversation gets a 22 modifier.
I'm a mechanic and I've literally never used a torque wrench in my life
>>29069148Any respectable mechanic uses the RFT setting
>>29069324I'm not an A&P, not necessary for building aircraft here.Build up experience and get an aerospace job.Eventually secure a union plane gig and enjoy life
>>29067878I went years without a torque wrench and everything was fine.Once I got a torque wrench, I use the proper torque value for everything because it is satisfying and confidence inspiring.
>>29070239>*I'm a lube tech
>>29070448A&P and factory parts assembler are not even remotely the same job position.
>>29067878Are Dodge screws counter-clockwise tightened or is OP using a torque wrench to loosen? Or is OP just pushing on a torque wrench?
>>29070589When you're building aircraft from scratch you're doing the exact same work. I know because a few of our guys on our team have a&p licenses and they joke that they spent all that time and money for nothing.
>>29070665either a screenshot from a video or stock imagewhen i got my classic i fucked off the left handed wheel studs, fuck that shit.
>>29070680When I was in school getting my a&p boeing visited and said it was useless for them and only ended up turning everyone away from them. I make significantly more working line for an airline and hardly do anything compared to assembly.
>>29067878I don't know if people even understand why torque specs are recommended.For one thing, it is to prevent over tightening.Another thing, is to ensure even tightening.Im still suspicious that inconsistent uneven tightening of wheel lug nuts cause more problems than people imagine possible.especialy on the front end
>>29070680If they are a line assembly worker then they did waste their time with that license because that's not what that license is for.Also, the base A&P is literally the lube tech entry level licensing. It's not where you stop, it's where you begin.I know people working at Lufthansa in service positions making fucking bank. As usual the retarded and lazy will fail to do anything of merit with their career (see: the average grease monkey car mechanic)
>>29067878I don't even have a torque wrench.
>>29067878no but i started replacing all the hose clamps when i do work cuz i always overtighten them. i always torque to spec on anything with a seal, suspension/driveline components, or whenever i tighten something down on a bushing. im overly aggressive so ill crush the bushing if i dont torque it.
>>29068332Pornstar hereFucked this guy's wife last nightAlso I do not "torque spec" I go by feel, either I snap a bolt or I have a catastrophic failure at 120mph!
