They made better engines 30 years ago, hur-dur, fuck you stupid boomers. You had 2 litres engines with 100 horse powers, now 2 litres engines have 250 horse powers. Yeah, fuck you, stupid shits. No, cars were not better 30 years ago
>>29068380Kill yourself busriding zoomer
>>29068380Those 250 hp engines are in front wheel drive crossovers and you can't even buy a normal car anymore
>>29068380My car has 200 hp from 4 L and fuck you, I like it.Guarantee you this 30 year old shit has better chances of running another 30 years more, than that 2.0 turbo-diesel or whatever has of lasting 30 at all.
>>29068380Then look at Puretech engine which breaks down before 100k km
>>2906838015 years old appears to be around the sweet spot desu.
>>29068380>They made better engines 30 years agoNobody is saying this. They made engines a decade ago because regulations weren't as strict. Naturally aspirated engines are a rarity.
>>29068408>They made engines a decade*better engines
>>29068380Sure. That's why DCI, HDI, and TDI are still a thing?Meanwhile VTI, CDTI, Puretech, Ingenium shit and new TSI break down left and right before 200k
the 2 liter 100hp engine from 30 years ago will last 400,000km with only basic maintenance while the modern 2 liter 250hp engine will explode instantly when the warranty ends
>op's plastic engine dies after 3 years
>>29068380Some brand new direct-injected turbocharged 2.0T making ~300hp that gets 35mpg is not going to last nearly as long as a 30 year old, port injected, n/a 2.0L making ~120hp that gets 25mpg.You'll learn this eventually.
>>29068528Fuel efficient engines are turbo cancer
>>29068380I have a 30 year old 2 litre that makes 250 horsepower.
>>29068380Boomers don’t understand this. They just parked the car under a tree and let it rot once it started burning a quart of oil every 100 miles.
>>29068451Who said he's driving a bmw?
>>29068387SPBPOP BTFO
>>29068720I just have a feeling
>>29068380100hp/liter was standard for cars 20 years ago. 50 years ago it became standard for motorcycles. I am not aware of any car from the era you specified other than a Geo Metro that only made a ratio of 100hp out of an approximate 2 liter displacement (the Geo made 72hp on 1 liter, so about 1.5 times the ratio you suggested). It was also specifically detuned for fuel economy.
>>29068755That tonight's gonna be a good night?
I'm completely off the "this engine last long time!" train. I think we inherited that type of thinking and its destructive. You will die, I will die, and so will our cars. The need to preserve the car and never drive it is almost like an effigy for the inability to accept an eventual death. If you get a dog or a horse, they will not outlive any car today, no matter how high strung they are. That's okay. Don't preserve your car, drive it hard, floor it, break it, fix it. It should die when you're still able to push it to death and have fun and not be falling apart yourself. After that, get another one or keep the memories. Also, better is subjective, it could be anything, but mostly its what excites you. If you like boosted to high heaven exploding FA20's or pushrod V8s, just get what you want. You are going to die in a few decades. t. midlife crisis anon
>>29068941As with any point or topic, any extreme is pointless.Your car is not a top fuel dragster, nor is it the pyramids
>>29068380Car reliability peaked in the 90's. It's been downhill since. Now with the ever increasing pressure for economy yet consumers still wanting "fast" cars engines are being pushed way too far stock and die quickly.
>>29068941Insanely stupid comment.
>>29068956Engines being "better" is being framed here as longer lived. I'd argue having a more fun engine that blows up at 100k is well worth it instead.
Who unironically drives a car to 200k miles lmaoHow fucking poor or boring do you have to be Reliability doesnt matter, I ain't keepin a car past the warranty period
>>29068941I'd rather have things that last. Its not like i'm not going to live another 30 years.
>>29069029some people just drive
>>29069050Who says you have to drive less? You can drive a variety of cars
>>29068380Jeez, a chud pepe, that's a new one
>>29069063but i really like my car
Obsessed with paper stats again are we chuddy?
>>29068380You only need all that horsepower because cars today are heavier than your mum. Back in the day, cars weighed less than a ton and were closer to the ground, so 100hp was all you needed.
>>29068380>now 2 litres engines have 250 horse powers.you dont know shit and are wrongpic, literally a 2.0 from 30 years ago that makes 250 hp and is better than modern counterparts
>overstressed piddly plastic garbage that rattles itself to death one second after warranty expires
>>29068380And how much did cars weigh back then?Did you know that a VW Golf mk1 weighed only 790 kg?
>>29069472and it was cramped, uncomfortable, and made of tinfoil
>>29068380You need at least 1 turbo for every cylinder. Only good things will happen once you achieve this.
>>29069387Bro, 1.5 pic is a better illustration. 1.5l 1500hp for a lap and a half.
>>29068380If I wanted more horsepower I'd buy something with more displacement.More power per liter means less reliable
>>29069599Modern cars are cramped because of all the fucking hollow panels and plastic
>>29068380>No, cars were not better 30 years agoYes they were. Modern cars are garbage.
Boomers make 300whp from a 6 liter engine and try to tell me about how good it is lmfao even modern usdm ohv scrap is abysmal
>ricer zoomers think a stock red top sr20det with 250,000 miles from 1992 makes 250hplol! ricers are spiritual boomers>nah man its good all you gotta do is change every single thing about it heh
>>29069864>out lap>hot lap>in lap>pit crew has to replace white hot melted turbo with asbestos gloves for next lap attempt>engines ran on octane-boosting paint stripper (toluene)>600kg and >1400hpThe first turbo era was so based, how can the second have been so gay?
>>29071639IIrc the bmw engines used old taxi engine blocks
>>29071640dumb boomer lore
>>29071643It's very long lived boomer lore. If it's not true prove it.
>>29071646burden of proof is on you redditor
>>29068380A 4 liter engine making 250 hp is superior to a 2 liter engine making 250 hp.
>>29071647It's been F1 lore since long before reddit or the internet. I vaguely remember some books claiming that the bmw workers used to piss on the blocks for some reason.
>>29068380>No, cars were not better 30 years agoRetard.1. Nissan Sentra (B13) mogs the FUCK out of any current Nissan subcompact options2. Honda Civic (EG) mogs the FUCK out of any current Honda subcompact options3. Toyota Camry (XV10) mogs the FUCK out of any current Toyota midsize options
>>29071651no, it was one guy pissing on them and it was a pile of them sitting out in the rain behind the machine shop. its a very boomer coded heckin smokey yunick comic book fantasy.
>>29071662>I can't readgreat post
>>29071664You seem far too sure it's not real for a guy with no proof
>>29071668>It's up to YOU to prove my idiot story isn't real!Nah
>>29071640define "taxi engine blocks"
>>29071650No it isnt
>>29071666What makes you say he can't read, he quoted directly from the OP. He's not wrong either.
>>290716391980s turbo era was peak F1 for mehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFZzxkIVwzE
>>29071800Yes it is
>>29068931Here's one. 210 hp on 4L (53 hp/L). Also, shitty fuel economy.But it's torquey and can out-last Toyotas.
Engines from that era are still running whereas a modern engine is already burning a quart of oil when it comes out of the factory
>>29071673The lore was that bmw bought engines out of high mileage taxis, like 1 million miles to use the blocks in their F1 engines.
