Would you ever consider buying a car that's 5+ years old nowadays?
No. 17 years old minimum, not any younger
Go ten or more years old. They will pre date most of the safety nazis meddling.
>>29074933to be fair there's a lot of "convenience" features in newer car. for some people it makes sense to go newer
>>29074935the hard cut off date is whenever a model is transitioned to token locked controllers. safety nannys dont matter when a simple eeprom write gets rid of them
>>29074935Zoomers are so braindead they think alp the invasive gimmicks are brand new.Meanwhile, ancient ass shit has all of those features without the Chinese tier surveillance fuckery
>>29074944Gonna need some explanation on this one as a knowledgeable 4channer is hard to find anyways.Do go on?
>>29074935Are any of those new convenience features useful enough? You might make an argument for adaptive cruise control and a big screen for navigation, but they don't seem worth all the other bullshit to me.The actual conveniences have been around for quite some time.
>>29074971ACC and a bigass waze screen are useful, but shit like youtube and rgb lighting and scent emitters are not
>>29074924yes, preferably a bit older.better reliability, less chinky bullshit 'futurist' nonsense>>29074977if you want a touch screen (okay i get it) after market head units with apple car play or android audio aren't too expensive (esp in comparison to a newer vehicle) and depending on the make/model you're getting, look pretty close to what you'd get from the factory.my 2010 mustang has wireless apple car play in a modest, inoffensive screen in the center console. I absolutely LOATHE ipad's glued to the dash, but for whatever reason one that's well below the sight-line of the dash is fine -- probably because of driving a 2014 fusion for 10 god damn years it seems normal, compared to these abominations with a tacky big screen jutting up into your field of view.
Sure but here in Northern Europe you have the following issues> Post 2016 diesels have adblue that will break in winter weather, making them no-go> Used PHEVs are a no-go entirely> Used EVs are mostly technologically obsolete in just five years> There's a lot of entirely no-go engines/transmissions: VAG 1.4, PSA 1.2, Ford 1.0, Ford Powershift, early DSGs, Nissan CVTs
>>29074935>convenience" featuresLike what?I can see mayve adaptive cruise control.But those systems are kinda sketchy since the can can apply brakes by itself.
>>29074961have you ever heared of the fear of a car getting hacked and the autopilot steering it into oncomming traffic?Its not actually hard to imagine, in old cars every retard with a chink CAN adapter and counterfeit software can manipulate the cars computer systems with questionable outcome.Enter the age of cars where controllers have control authority over the car (emergency brake assist, lane hold, fsd, etc)Car manufacturers selling in EU and NA agreed on protecting the firmware of all the controllers inside a car. On a protected car every unathorised config write is logged (forever), insepction or an insurance appraiser can trivialy detect any current or previous manipulation.
>>29075003Map infotainment, carplay, ACC, HUD, electric seat adjustment, blind spot sensors, parking camera/360 camera and wireless charging are something I could see people appreciating.
>>29075021At this rate autonomous self-driving should be considered a convenience feature. What's more convenient than that?
>>29075045If I could feasibly retrofit it to my car I would. You need a nucar with lane assist at least so it can turn the wheel via software though.
>>29075021I do not want any of those in any level anon.What you listed disgusts me..t make $134,000 a year
>>2907493017 years 364 days 23 hours and 59 minutes old
>>29074977If ACC stands for automatic climate control, then I am pleased to inform you that my 1997 audi has it.
>>29075021>Map infotainment, carplay, ACC, HUDAll easy to add to an older vehicle. Literally costs fuck all.>electric seat adjustmentHow often do you adjust your seat? It doesnt matter>blind spot sensorsOlder cars solved this by just not having giant blind spots>parking cameraEasily added to older car>wireless chargingGimmick as fuck.Only thing you miss in an old car is adaptive cruise, and that's only if you're driving an auto.
Yes, I own a 16 year old car. Cars over 5 years old appeal more than cars under 5 years old.
>>29074971Adaptive Cruise Control is amazing, especially for stop-and-go traffic. I used to get so annoyed because the retards in front of me would drive 75 MPH and then randomly drop to 55 MPH and then back to 65 MPH. Now I don’t have to constantly fiddle with cruise control and change my speed.
My current car is 42 years old. I'd buy it again or something similar.
>>29075478>Stop being gay>needs ACCKill yourself.
>>29074924>5+Sure, my most recent car purchases over the last 5 years have been at least 25 years old. Neither Have cruise. One has manual windows and a 5-speed.
>>29074924My garage is a 40 year old, 49 year old, 5 year old, and 1 year old. You need the wisdom of the elder cars so your young cars don't develop bad habits.
>>29074933My car is new and doesn't have any of this meddling. Just Android Auto / Apple Car play and climate control. There are still cars that are non-invasive out there.https://mezha.ua/en/articles/test-drayv-suzuki-vitara-2025-bez-gibrida-ale-z-korisnimi-onovlennyami-304654/
>>29075162>How often do you adjust your seat? It doesnt mattereven though i legitimately agree with you 100% (t. my car does not have electric seat adjustment and i have managed not to kill myself over this) i can see it being convenient if you share your car with another driver *very* frequently. press 1 button and it's back to your settings.
>>29075052there are solutions for cars with nothing but electric steering. i wouldn't trust open source selfdriving though
>>29075840You'll easily be able to afford 2 cars if you're not buying new garbage.
>>29075842Apparently it's pretty good. I wouldn't take a nap behind the wheel or anything, but it can handle most trips alright.>there are solutions for cars with nothing but electric steeringDoes it require sticking cameras all over your car?It'd be cool if someone could come up with a method for mechanical steering but I get why it's not really feasible.
>>29075878>Does it require sticking cameras all over your car?yeahyou CAN do it for older cars as well, but you'll need more hardware which is way more involved and not really easily doable for wrenchlets
