Anyone here want to ride a motorcycle but they are too afraid due to all the horror stories?
>>29081682lmao keeps the price down for those of us with balls.
>>29081682It's a shame these brainless people on electric scooters don't feel fear at all.And they should.
>>29081682>anybody else here a giant chickenshit bitch like me?Great thread, OP. Congratulations.
Get a smol bike like a grom. They are infinitely more fun than gay ass liter bikes. The only people who need liter bikes are clout kiddies
>>29081682Riding a motorcycle is seriously the most fun thing you can do. But it's also objectively retarded to ride one on public roads. Half the drivers are women. Most commercial vehicles these days are being driven by jeets with fraudulent CDLs, a race known for their poor spatial awareness, constant scheming (they call this 'jugaad'), and complete lack of etiquette and empathy ('izaat' in their culture).So for me, I'm a 98% dirt/trail rider.
>>29081682I read about 1-2 people per week dying on motorcycles in my local area. I have had someone die on a bike leaving a job ive worked at. Ive had coworkers witness guys dying in bike crashes. And in a lot of cases thats actually the merciful outcome. I dont really care how fun they are, its a bit too much for me.
>>29081833I was driving under the speed limit on an empty road late one Saturday night. Going about 40 MPH. Speed limit was 45MPH.Across the way was a drunk Mexican in a shitty sedan from 2005 flying over 100 MPH. The Mexican lost control, swerved left, and hit the concrete middle median like a ramp. He went airborne, flipped, and smashed into the driver’s side of my Ford Fusion hybrid. He crossed 4 lanes to hit me on the other side of the road. I never saw him coming.I was completely fine. Seat belt on. Airbags deployed. Had no injuries. If I had been on a motorcycle, I would have been smashed into a hamburger.Cops showed up, and the Mexican told the cop his name was Gomez or whatever and that he didn’t have a driver’s license, or home address, or registration, or anything. He also didn’t own the car. Cops wrote him a ticket for driving without a driver’s license and let him go. My insurance could never find him. He probably never even paid the ticket cuz what are they gonna do? Go arrest Juan Gomez? His car got towed, but it was totaled and worth nothing anyways, so he probably just bought a new $500 shitbox and left his old car at the tow lot.Anyways, I have decided to never buy a motorcycle, and I also highly recommend Ford Fusion’s. Great fucking car. Ran like a clock, 145k miles, no issues, had another 100k miles left in it. Shame.
>>29081682>due to all the horror storiesIf your IQ is over 115 or so you can look at the figures yourself instead of forming your worldview on facebook anecdotes, and see the majority of motorcycle fatalities are from idiots riding a) without a helmet, or b) under the influence.Single-rider accidents are almost never caused by anything besides excessive speed or riding outside your skill level. Both of which are 100% in your control.Wear your gear and don't ride like a dumbass and you'll be fine barring the 0.01% of cases where you'd be fucked either way (e.g. red light runner going 75 in a 40), in which case a car would be the difference between dying and being paralyzed.
>>29081916>Single-rider accidents are almost never caused by anything besides excessive speed or riding outside your skill level. >Both of which are 100% in your control.Holy shit, how fucking retarded are you?You realize there’s other people on the road, right? And you can’t control their driving behavior at all. Do you really think that every motorcyclist that gets in an accident was the party at fault? What happens when a college bitch in a Jeep Wrangler rear ends you at a stoplight cuz she was scrolling Instagram reels? The same thing can happen to you in a car, but you have a seatbelt and crumple zones and airbags.Holy fuck, the incels on this shit website are so fucking retarded. How did you even learn to read?
>>29081916>>29081926>Wear your gear and don't ride like a dumbass and you'll be fine barring the 0.01% of cases where you'd be fucked either way (e.g. red light runner going 75 in a 40), in which case a car would be the difference between dying and being paralyzed.Continued.Lol, you think the difference between a car and a motorcycle is permanent disability and death? Holy fuck, you ever talked to a paramedic before. More likeCar = Walking homeAndMotorcycle = Closed-Casket FuneralI’m the dude that got hit by a drunk Mexican going 100MPH. My only injury was bruising to my stomach from my seatbelt (aka the force that would have thrown me through the windshield all went into my abdomen). If I was on a motorcycle, I’d have been dead before my mutilated corpse even hit the pavement.Cop drove me home and even offered to pick me up some Taco Bell on the way.If you wanna know the difference between car crashed and motorcycle crashes, ask any cop or paramedic the difference. They’ll tell you lmfao.
>>29081926>You realize there’s other people on the road, right? Do you understand what a SINGLE-rider accident means?Not reading the rest of your schizophrenic reddit retardation
>>29081954>Bro, if you just ignore this super common shit that happens all the time, it’s totally safeYou are the biggest retard on this entire website. Can’t wait till you finally get pancaked on the pavement by some 80 year boomer woman driving an Escalade. You deserve it.
>>29081916most deaths are not due to single-rider accidents you complete retard
>>29081958>Single vehicle accident>Single vehicleDid you have to take remedial reading courses in school?
>>29081916Lol no. One of my old co-workers walks with a permanent limp because one of his legs is shorter than the other one. The cause? A woman changed lanes without checking her mirrors and turned his femur into powder.I love bikes, rode every day for 8 years, but let's not pretend the smallest event can't turn into a life-changing injury very quickly.
>>29081963point to the place in my post where I said most deaths are caused by single-rider accidents.>>29081980oh look it's the facebook anecdote guy I was just talking aboutseriously what the fuck is going on in this thread, it's like every single person who can't read decided to join together today. I haven't gotten a single reply from someone who seems capable of understanding english
>>29081983Because you are using a retarded motte and bailey argument>well I only said single rider accidents so my overall statement about motorcycles being safe is correct You chose to focus on the minority of motorcycle accidents, act like that's all anybody has to worry about and therefore all you have to do is wear gear and you'll be fine. That's obviously nonsense and no one is buying it, you may interpret that as a lack of comprehension all you want but that doesn't change the fact it's retarded.
>29081863
>>29081916After reading this post, this is what I believe this poster is saying.>majority of motorcycle fatalities involve the rider traveling at excess speeds, not wearing a helmet, or being under the influence>accidents that involve a single rider (just the motorcycle and not another vehicle) are usually rider faultThat makes sense.
>>29081690>those of us with balls.Ok Macgruber.pussy
>>29081983>point to the place in my post where I said most deaths are caused by single-rider accidents.Easy, right here.>see the majority of motorcycle fatalities are from idiots riding a) without a helmet, or b) under the influence.Posted here.>>29081916That statement is factually untrue. The majority of motorcycle fatalities are not caused by a lack of helmet or DUI.Only about 25% of motorcycle deaths are caused by drunk motorcycle riders. Only about 30% of fatal motorcycle accidents included a motorcycle rider who was not wearing a helmet. You can’t just add 25% + 30% because many of those fatal motorcycle crashes involved a rider who was both drunk and not wearing a helmet.So no, you’re retarded and factually wrong and can’t even read your own post. I look forward to seeing your crippled at 32 years old.
>>29081992>That makes sense.It doesn’t because he’s wrong. The majority of motorcycle fatalities are not caused by excess speeding, DUI, and/or not wearing a helmet. That doesn’t even account for 50% of fatal motorcycle accidents.His entire premise is wrong, and he’s flailing around like a retard saying>I said single vehicle hurr durrWhen argument is false at its foundational. If every motorcycle rider in the USA did exactly what he says in his post, it would only reduce fatal motorcycle accidents by like 40%.The majority of fatal motorcycle accidents (65%) involve another vehicle. Most commonly, it is the car who is at fault for not seeing nor yielding to the motorcycle.43% of fatal motorcycle accidents involve a car turning left while a motorcycle on the other side of the road is going straight and has the right-of-way. AKA brick-walling the motorcycle. That single scenario accounts for more fatal motorcycle accidents than DUIs, helmetless riding, and speeding combined, and that scenario is also no fault of the motorcycle rider.So actually, the majority of motorcycle fatalities are actually caused by people driving cars and fucking up.Crazy what you can find when you’re not retarded and can read.
>p-point to the place in my post where I said most deaths are caused by single-rider accidents.lmao that retard tried arguing semantics after he lost and then even couldnt do that properlyto reddit u go faggot
>>29082001>>29082020>>29082023>gets btfo>starts hyperventilating, melting down, and samefagging to save facepathetic.
>>29082028>Accuses me of samefagging>Is wrongI look forward to you taking a nap in a black, plastic bag, where all motorcyclefags end up.
>>29082032I'm guessing a motorcycle rider fucked your fat girlfriend and that's why you come on here to seethe and cry that some people aren't pussy faggots like you.
>>29082034I actually knew a motorcyclefag with a fat girlfriend in highschool.He got in an argument with his parents like a month after graduation. He stormed out of his parents’ house huffing and puffing like a queer. He hopped on his big, bad motorcycle to go feel better about his hurt feefees.Then he hit a tree. And he died. His last interaction with his parents was slamming the front door of their house like a pussy faggot.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAlso, I fucked his fat girlfriend. But it was after he wrapped himself around a tree. Lol.
>>29082020I'm not invested, but here are a couple stats I found.>43% of riders who died in single-vehicle crashes in 2017 were alcohol-impaired.>In 2017, 32% of all bikers involved in fatal crashes were speeding.I'm not sure if I can find numbers on the overlap between those.
>>29082039>I'm not sure if I can find numbers on the overlap between those.It’s likely very high overlap. A lot of drunk motorcyclists in fatal accidents are also speeding and not wearing a helmet, since drunk people are more likely to ride recklessly in general.It also doesn’t change the fact that those three criteria combined are not breaking or barely breaking 50% of fatal motorcycle accidents. Which means exactly half, if not the majority of fatal motorcycle accidents, are cause by car drivers not motorcycle riders.
>>29081682That's called having common sense. If you're past a certain age you've probably been in an accident or two in your life. I've been in a couple, neither or which were my fault, which fucked up my cars but caused me no harm at all. If I'd been on a motorcycle for either one, I'd be dead.Intelligently weighing risk vs reward for an activity and deciding against it is not being afraid, it's being smart. We all know you can't control other drivers and you can drive as defensively as you want but sometimes another person is going to find a way to fuck you. We're on 4chan so you've probably seen rekt threads full of motorcycle gopro videos where the rider does absolutely nothing wrong but still gets killed or crippled by other drivers. When Karen or Pedro decide to swerve into your lane at 70mph, whether you're in a car or a motorcycle is the difference between being alive or dead.
>>29082051>If you're past a certain age you've probably been in an accident or two in your lifeMaybe if you're a shit driver. I've been driving longer than most faggots on this board have been alive and I've never been in so much as a parking lot fender bender.
>>29082061>It’s impossible to be involved in an accident that isn’t your fault.Retard.
>>29082061This sort of blind, ignorant arrogance is how you end up dead on your motorcycle, son.
>>29081682It is a lot of fun but you have to do your own calculus of risk. It made sense for me in my late teens and my early twenties when I didn't have a fiancée, a house or any other assets, or a real plan other than 'finish school and then we'll see where that goes'. Now I'm building a future and have things to my same. We might start a family soon enough. Motorcycles aren't as appealing any more, the risk just isn't worth it. It seems self-indulgent and selfish now. I'm probably going to sell it.
>>29082213*to my name
>>29081682nope
I had a cbr250r and dumped it 3 times, the last one scary enough to convince me I simply can't be safe on one.Fun as all fuck though I miss it
>>29082061>oh shit my exit's right here!>geez look at all these idiots behind me swerving all over the place for no reason.
>>29081931Did you kill the Mexican? I concealed carry just for in case of some brown or thirdie crashing into me because they were driving like an asshole
>>29081833>Half the drivers are women. we don't have many jeet truck drivers here yet, but women actively try to hurt me when I'm riding my bike. it's psychopathic.
>>29082517>women actively try to hurt meEither you're under 13 or you have a baby face.
>>29081682Two things, first it's about self control, second, it's the other drivers you need to watch out for, even if you're in a car it just applies 10x more in a bike. Last Friday I witnessed a horrific crash in the city, pickup truck driver hit a Corolla head on and rolled a bunch of times, I saw it on the news the next morning and the Corolla driver died, pickup drive in critical condition. Even in a car or truck, you're at the mercy of momentum, sure the cage will protect your body but those organs are still moving and you still die from internal bleeding. Bikes or cars, you need to stay vigilant, there's more idiots than ever behind the wheel now
>>29081833>I'm a 98% dirt/trail rider.Low izaat, high estro post, liter leaders cut through traffic like they're dropping in from high izaat hyperspace
>>29081806>>29081833>motorcycles are cool but only if you follow my personal take on type of bikes, riding styles, acceptable weather, and degree of recklessnessYou riders piss me off. Just because you ride too doesn't mean you have some nuanced, enlightened, authoritative take on our statistically dangerous hobby. Everyone, rider or not, gets to draw the line on risk wherever the fuck they want. My body my choice. >>29081916They hated him because he spoke the truth. Don't ride drunk, don't ride without a helmet, don't ride recklessly, and survive your first season, and the fatality rate is suddenly wayyyy less. It's still more dangerous than driving, but it's nowhere near as bad as it seems if you have some damn sense. >>29082020>43% of fatal motorcycle accidents involve a car turning left while a motorcycle on the other side of the road is going straight and has the right-of-wayThere's obviously some overlap between speed, alcohol, and no helmet, so trying to get this specific about risk using the available stats is a waste of time. But hey, as long as you desire to be right more than know the truth, you'll have so much fun in internet arguments like this one!
>>29081682If only cagers were as self aware of what risks they face.
>>29081682I am fully aware of the horror stories but most of the times its due to the rider being dumb and aggressive. Since i am composed and unimpulsive i think i will be alright. Yeah i know you cant account for everything on the road but i believe i have good chance of survival.
You accept the risk and train as much as you can to be prepared. This gets you out of 90% of bad situations. You cannot account for someone side swiping you, so there is always a risk, but the truth is I was already half-dead before I got my bike. It actually made me appreciate being alive more because the risk became very real.
You could sit in your bedroom gooning for neetbux and still pop an aneurism taking a shit. The only guarantee in life is dying, make sure you lived before then.
>>29081863>Going about 40 MPH. Speed limit was 45MPH.he would have missed you entirely if you were going the correct speed.
>>29081926>not realising that single-rider accidents are about 90% of motorbike accidents
>>29081682If you are afraid to die that means you aren't dead inside and you shouldn't ride a motorcycle. Personally I have fun while riding and dying doesn't feel such a big deal for me.
>>29082529but your izzat drops to zero if you fall
>>29082564>There's obviously some overlap between speed, alcohol, and no helmet, so trying to get this specific about risk using the available stats is a waste of time. But hey, as long as you desire to be right more than know the truth, you'll have so much fun in internet arguments like this one!I’m glad you finally admitted that you are wrong and retarded. Now please take a bath with a toaster for the good of humanity. Your IQ is too low to live among human beings.
>>29082708>riding like this with no gearI will always judge other riders when they're retarded. You drive my insurance up. >anon, they're jeetsyes the same jeets that come to my country and ride like this so YOU can get your kfc delivered to your door you fat fuck
>>29082709That is my first post ITT. I didn't admit to shit. You're not as smart as you think.
>>29081682yes but only because of the licensing structures and poh-leece despite just wanting one to commute and tour the province at low speeds smelling the flowers and sexually assaulting the cryptids. i know that getting a license will take 9001 years because of protestant nonsense, so i may as well just become a "street takeover" reminiscent illegal amazon dirt bike niglet, at which point i will be bombed from space at the behest of my local karens
>>29082743I’m smarter than you, but, admittedly, that is a very low bar. You are retarded.
>>29081682Exactly, and considering I fell off my bicycle last month, I'm sure I would not be a very skilled motorcycle rider. Still think about getting a license as an in-case precaution.
>>29081916>implies he has an IQ of 115>spouts the most asinine teenage nonsense possible
>>29081690Just like how motorcycles keep the price of donor organs down
>>29081863And if he hit you five feet to the right he would have gone through your windshield and turned you to paste anyway. This type of accident is actually why I feel comfortable riding motorcycles. If something is going to kill me, I'm pretty confident it's a freak accident, and I'm not gonna split hairs on "freak accidents that would be near misses if I was in a car." We're already talking about freak accidents.
>>29081926>Do you really think that every motorcyclist that gets in an accident was the party at fault? I do.
my best friend fell off his bike and died. dont ride.
>waaaah waaaah life is too scawy fow me, I don't wanna weave my bubble :(Imagine being so scared of living your life that you waste it being a shelted baby instead. Pathetic.
>>29085172my best friend crashed his car and died. dont drivemy wrestling partner in high school got clipped by a bus and died. dont walk anywhere
>>29081682I'd fancy a trials bike, but with a trail kit
>>29085221sounds like all your friends are low iq
>>29085195Hit yourself in the balls with a hammer or else you're a pussy
>>29086692I did it and I came. Now what
