>biggest bang for buck tires in the world right nowWhat's stopping /o/ from slapping some linglongs onto the daily drive shitbox?
>>29082943For me, nothing. The US DOT regs stop anyone from selling something actually bad or dangerous. Tires are a mature technology. If you're not racing or seriously offroading or hauling heavy, you don't need expensive tires.
>>29082943They're good if you are hilariously poor and dont care about ride quality or grip in poor (or even ideal) conditions, or if you're someone who intends to burn up tires quickly. For me its dsw06+
>>29082943When I went to Japan they were displayed on every tyre shop. I guess the average driver can't tell the difference between cheap and expensive tyres.
>>29082951People mostly can’t tell the difference between cheap and expensive Goods in general Mostly
>>29082950>grip in poor (or even ideal) conditionsSounds like perfect hooning tires to me
>>29082943>shady chinky maypopsNo
>>29082956>Drilled rotors >Floating caliperShameful display anon.
>>29082943Most of their line is low rolling resistance, which utterly sucks for grip.
>>29082943Some local R35 GTR guy was running those Long long chink tires then hit a curb.Idk why someone dynos $100K on a GTR and puts $1,200 worth of tires on it
>>29082943I'm going to slap you with my ding dong.
The Ling Long Crosswind A/T is the standard pickup tire in my country.
>>29082943CHY-NAH versus MAY-HEE-KOLING LONG versus MUCHO MACHOFIGHT!
>>29083022Just stock ///M5 Competition things
>>29082943I have ling longs on 2 of my 3 cars. They're fine.
>>29082943Chink tires are not even cheap option anymore now when Indian tires are starting to hit the market.
>>29083101i heard those muchomachos are surprisingly good for their price.
>>29082943i have a different chink brand, vitour
>>29083229Fuuck i have some. Vitours on my truck
>>29083229Is that some sort of weird Plymouth Valiant with a body kit?
>>29083306no it's this thing
>>29083316Thanks, Anon.
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophetAll of a sudden, I found myself in love with the worldSo there was only one thing that I could doWas ding a ding dang my dang a long ling long"
I wrap an Asian bitch around my dick like a linglong tire
>>29083316pretty cool
>>29082951>165/65R14whatever car its going isn't going to do enough to really overwhelm them.
>>29082943I only use commercial truck tyres because our gaynigger government allows them to be harder compound and last longer
>>29082943I have self respect. I value my life and my property.
>>29082943Chinese Tyres are just fine
>>29083330>>29083559thanks :Di've said it before, but they were the only tyres i could find that>had 70 profile sidewalls>were reasonably priced>had a H speed ratingi haven't had the chance to max out the speedo yet, but i have taken it up to 100 mph. in a new car 100 feels quite fast, but in this thing where you already feel like you're going much faster than you actually are, at that speed, you truly appreciate that you are well and truly, royally fucked if something bad happens
>>29082943Because the last time I had chink tires in my car I ended up upside down after going the speed limit over some mud
>>29082943Do they come in white walls?
>>29083642Those uhhh vitour galaxies are white walls and if memory serves, they come from the same factory as linglongs
Do they make tires that are good in mud and chunky gravel but are not noisy as hell on highways?
>>29083659The galaxies are raised white lettering, you can choose whether you want the letters on the inside or out. They're initially blue but can either be cleaned to be white, or just let them fade to white over time. They can go brown if you don't clean them after a while though.
>>29082943Didn't pay much attention to tires when I was younger, as long as the held air they were fine. Then I bought a set of Kumhos in the late 90's and they absolutely ruined the driving experience of that car. Noisy as hell from day 1 and harsh riding as well. Kicked them off the car in less than a year.I learned a lesson there about tires from companies with unknown histories so these Linglongs would need to prove themselves to me first and I have no idea how they could do that so I'll be sticking with my Michelins and Continentals.
>>29082943>What's stopping /o/ from slapping some linglongs onto the daily drive shitbox?Well one thing that won't be stopping them is Linglong tires
>>29083679They do have white walls too, but admittedly the white wall isn't that big on them
>>29082951How would they? Cars these days come with cotton candy soft suspensions because avoiding potholes is a forgotten science
>>29083746actually, that clears things up. Only just noticed that the 'galaxy R1 radial GT' that I have are RWL, while the 'galaxy R1' pattern is the WSW
>>29082943Those motherfuckers have no traction in the wet but my god do they last a while, crosswind its pretty much the best shitbox tire if you can find em
>>29083750what? cars ride harder than ever
>>29083542You fuck tires?
>>29083229I have the spec Z on my Z which is craZy haha!
>>29084078carlos i'm going to disembowel you
>>29082943LingLongs and Chinese tires in general make amazing gifts for people you want to see dead.
>>29082948>not old enough to remember westlake
>>29084380>LingLongs and Chinese tires in general make amazing gifts for people you want to see dead.Chinese companies also change quality levels of products to make more product. Once the product introduction is over and the tire (or other product) has been checked by the government, and reviewers have posted their positive reviews of the product, cost-cutting can then start up in order to make the bigger profits. It's a common problem with the chinese way of doing business.
>>29084428The hardware store?
Post unheard of tire brands. Mabor was an actual local mfr, funded in the 50s/60s in partnership with General tires company, but they liquidated and the factory went to Continental. No idea who's behind the name nowadays; Norauto is French parts/service retail chain.
>>29084627People here spend $5k for a lift kit for their truck then put these pieces of shit on. They're always worn badly.
I've seen a lot of Sailun in my area. Crazy thing is mostly seems to be big German SUVs, these people should be able to afford proper tires.Meanwhile grandma in her 15-year old economy hatchback has brand new Continentals or Goodyears.
>>29084627Aren't Nexen Korean?Sava on the other hand is Slovenian and they're actually pretty decent tires for daily driving. Same middle of the road shit as Kormorans (Serbian) and Barums (Czech)
>>29084789Nexen is good, as well as Sava, both are pretty common round where I'm at. Cooper is also a well-known tyre make, not sure what any of them is doing in that pic.
>>29084627I've got some vredsteins A/Ts since they weren't too aggressive for mostly road use. Apparently they're well known among classic car drivers and well liked. I can't complain.
Anyone user Kumho tires? Korean brand. Only one tire shop in my city has them and was curious, as their offerings look decent
>>29084829Very common in Europe. Considered a good, quality upper mid-range brand. In tyre tests I've often seen Kumho brought up as punching above their weight in terms of price.
>>29084557>>29084380>continuing the eternal 'muh china bad quality' shitmost of the shit quality stuff from china doesnt get out of the mainland (most notably third rate cities and below) or ends up in south asian/african shitholes nobody ever heard off other than shitposters on the sharty.the issue is that a lot of stuff is just very dodgy due of incompetent fags that decided to make a factory due of the chinese economic boom and nepotism because their sugar mommies are in the CCP so they get millions in equivalent USD for their bullshit. also same issue as to why there's tofu dregs.while xi jinping tried to tackle the issue, its still present, much less but still.i'd actually trust shit from my country than things made in france car wise, because atleast the bad quality shit from my shithole is leftovers from incompetent retards, made in france bullshit is just genuine malevolence from the french who decided that 'hon hon hon anything sold outside of le héxagone is le dogshit!!!'.
>>29084939JFC Chang shut the fuck up, no one is falling for your bullshit.
>>29082943My daily drive isn't a shitbox.
>>29084939The only good Chinese products are ones manufactured with a non Chinese company overseeing production (Apple, etc).Chinese wholly owned companies?LolLmao evenNo fucking way
Go Korean. Not the best nor the cheapest but good enough and cheap enough.
>>29084965If I wanted to save money I'd go with one of the sub-brands of the big euros. BF Goodrich, Kleber, Barum etcDon't know about the availability of those in other regions though.
>>29082943>cost 3/4 of what a normal tire costs>last half of what a normal tire doesas they say, the cheapskate pays twice
>>29084939This Geely car failed the Latin NCAP with zero stars. Latin NCAP frequently awards 0 stars to entry-level vehicles lacking essential safety features like basic airbags or electronic stability control. What is NCAP? In the USA, the crash test ratings are administered by the NHTSA (National Highway Traffic Safety Administration) which rates cars with 1 to 5 stars. Europe has the Euro NCAP and Latin America has the Latin NCAP which rates from 0 to 5 stars. In 2017, due to the import of cars with excessive failures, Euro NCAP added Zero Stars.So Chinese-made cars can cause NCAP programs to change their rating programs to add Zero Stars as the new lowest possible score.
>>29084627>>29084789None of them, other than Mabor, and more recently Norauto, were ever been around. I knew Barum, but, afaik, never been around either.There's plenty more than those I posted, though, even known brands that weren't at all common here, nor low segment (Falken, Toyo, etc.)>>29084824Vredestein, though I haven't seen them much around, if at all, recently, used to be fairly common decades ago.
>>29085026>Chinese-made cars can cause NCAP programs to change their rating programsReminds me of the SAIC-built MG3 that caused some headaches at the Euro NCAP when the driver's seat came off its mountings in the crash test.They didn't have any rules for the seat rail failure since it's never happened in the history of Euro NCAP, so they just had to note that the driver dummy took some additional damage from its legs hitting the dashboard, with an added contribution by the driver's airbag not inflating fast enough.
>>29085026Fucking kek
>>29084939Biggest retard on o lol
>>29083568those are for the kei-cars, they're basically golf cars. Imagine paying ~$400 for a set of those. Tire shops here are such a scam.
>>29085030>They didn't have any rules for the seat rail failurethis sounds like bullshit and a very basic thing to have on a crash test that everyone would of course pass because it's easy.
>>29085143https://www.euroncap.com/assessments/mg/3/1057/it's not a secret, you can just look these things up
>>29084939>uh, all the shit quality stuff you see are just leftovers and surplus!!!!!!!!!!!!ok chang
>>29084939Wonderful bait, good job anon
>>29085143>Google
>>29085198I can't get over how the Chinese can't even make a fucking seat lmaoRip to that guy's spine
>>29084939>i'd actually trust shit from my country
>cheaping out on the only thing on the vehicle that touches the groundjust shut it down already holy shit. michelin, bf goodrich and nokian are the only things touching my vehicle. maybe Mickey Thompson if the easts winds blow north.
>>29085694Michelin is overpriced bullshit. BFG's are pieces of shit which is not surprising considering who makes them. Nokian makes the benchmark winter tire and their AT shits on the rest.
>>29085706>Michelin is overpriced bullshitThat's like saying Porsche is over priced bullshit.Overpriced? Sure.But if you want the best you gotta pay.
>>29085874Their performance tires might be top notch but their all seasons and AT's are shit.
>>29085706BFG offroad tires are the best
>>29085876What the fuck are you even talking about you dumb nigger the Cross Climate 2 is category defining in AS. Fuck you know nothing busrider
>>29085894They're actually the worst. They have shit traction in too many areas and they have way too many balancing/wear issues. >>29085899All weather tires are mutts and shit in general. CC2's only come in cuck sizes as well.
>>29082943Check out this jewish tricks.ADAC review of summer tiers, Linglong near or at the top in every individual category.Final ranking - at the bottom kek.
>>29085943now post max performance tires
>>29084939They would dare attempt to perform testing fakery with the official tests. They take some other manufacturer's car (such as GM), and then do such things as put their chinese model's skin on it, change over some parts that have USA patent or VIN codes on them to correspond to the chinese manufacturer.
>>29085943>>29085969Forgot linkhttps://www.tyrereviews.com/Tyre-Tests/2026-ADAC-Summer-Tyre-Test.htm
>>29085943>>29085982>worst efficiency>wears out more than twice as fastDid they make those out of winter tire rubber or something? At that wear rate, those are going to be bottom tier within a year.
>>29085982>grocery getter tires
>they fell for the baitje suis tellement intelligent
I need a rubber belt. The rubber belt cannot be sourced locally.>American made rubber belt>$40 for 1 (one) belt>China made rubber belt>$15 for 2 packs of 100 with varying sizes allowing replacement of all 4 belts. I'd also be seething and talking bad about China made stuff if I had to overpay for everything - even simple things such as a small rubber belt.
>>29086209literally me when bf goodrich radial T/As are 300-400 each while the vitours are 680 a set
>>29085918>they are the worstdelulu
>ChinaThe country that couldnt invent the wheel makes a good wheel?? Doubt.
>>29084428I guess not. First time I bought tires for a car was 2018. First time for a bike was 2017. In any case, we're talking about current year. Go ahead and buy the chinkshit tire as long as it's DOT approved. You might be able to skirt the rules and find some fly by night bullshit off of Alibaba that's a trailer tire(allegedly) but you get what I'm saying.
just buy hankook or some shit
>>29085876Cup 2s are decent but there are better options in that segment. PS4S are overrated as fuck
kumho
>>29086006>At that wear rate, those are going to be bottom tier within a year.like every expensive grippy tirecould wear down those soft expensive tires down to wire in one afternoon on rough airport tarmac
>>29084632well it does say venom poner on the side, can you blame them?
>>29085027>None of them, other than Mabor, and more recently Norauto, were ever been aroundYes they were, Barums have been a thing since the 80s in Europe for example, Sava started making tires in the mid 90s if memory serves and they're just rebranded goodyears with slightly tweaked patterns.Barums even got complaints from the brits because the Škoda Typ742s, 180 and 200Rs kept fucking up Escorts and later Capris in circuit racing wearing Barums.
>>29087228I meant around here; there's obviously countless long established local brands everywhere no one else ever heard about (e.g.: mabor started production in the 40s, but doubt anyone here ever heard about them).
>>29083602I AM GOING TO SUCK UNTIL YOU CUM, NO MATTER WHATt. the cumforcer
>>29085198To what does the red arrow point?
>>29082943>slides into stopped car in wet wintergg
Browse on Alibaba if you are simply curious at how low priced car tires can be. $12 each is possible for new tires.https://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?spm=a2700.galleryofferlist.leftFilter.d_filter.2e9d13a0xHtXW9&fsb=y&IndexArea=product_en&categoryId=201730506&has4Tab=true&keywords=Commercial+Wheels+Tires&originKeywords=Commercial+Wheels+Tires&tab=all&>>29087473It's amazing how low-priced tires are in China. As low as $14 each for 100 lot orders for colored tires. While not made by Comforser, these are made by Qingdao Kebek Tire Company. They are a tire export company so it seems the name is one of those front names for the actual factory making the tires.Pictured Product sales page: $14 eachhttps://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Vehicle-Parts-225-50-18-235_1601448693704.html?spm=a2700.find_similar_products.normal_offer.d_image.6c9967afvkqyNx&priceId=a12fcd8b4f82410ea4f1b384b8feba7dBefore you mock all colored tires, there is a legitimate market for WHITE colored tires for forklifts that operate in clean areas where floors are not to be marked.
>you can't drive that forklift in here, this is a clean area>what's wrong with my forklift?>it has black tires, it will leave marks on the floor>what about that forklift in here already?>it has white tires so we can't see the markst. chinkshill
>>29087711I've never seen colored tires on anything that wasn't a bicycle. I wonder who uses them on a car.
>>29082943Tires last about 15000 miles for me no matter what I buy, except for Chinese tires, which last around 3000. I'm not buying 5x sets of tires per year.>>29082959>Sounds like perfect hooning tires to meUsed tires are better for that. Chinese tires just have a weird mix of atrocious performance and lack of longevity.
>>29084769It's just posers by another generation. They borrow money to buy expensive things to look rich, the car impoverishes them, and they wear out the cheapest consumables they can finance or borrow on a credit card.Honestly, if I were faced with that, I'd just buy new old-stock winter tires for the car for cheaper than a new Chinese tire.
>>29089109>I wonder who uses them on a car.If they were made available for purchase using EBT, you would definitely see a lot of them.
>>29082948>he thinks regs do anything in a shrinking economy
>>29082948>The US DOT regs stop anyone from selling something actually bad or dangerous.Only in a high-trust planet can you can say that with some accuracy. The Chinese tend to "bait and switch" where the first few months the product resembles the test items that were submitted for UL or NHTSA or CSA or other testing (depending on product). When the chinese company feels scruitiny and the initial reviews have been published, they then switch to a cost-cutting version so that they make greater profit.
>>29082943I am best tire. Mitchlin... Overpriced.
>>29091117
>>29091117Aut/o/ approvedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONFrQuvw-A4
>>29091095This even occurs in Baltimore where youths run up to you at the traffic light and demand you pay or they poke a hole in your tire.
Where do you even get non-chinkshit tires for 14" and 15" wheels nowadays
>>29091689Vredestein
>>29091689Look up the tires you want and order them at most tire shops. They will order any brand for you. My Sam's Club did that for me for my previous tires. You already know the current tire brand/model from looking at your car. It has a diameter, width, and ratio number.If you are unsure of tire brands/models out there, look thru online sales sites such as Tirerack. Just like amazon, you don't have to use their site to buy, but make use of their large amount of information, images, and review comments.Tirerack 14-inch diameter tires:https://www.tirerack.com/tires/sizes/results.jsp?diameter=14Video: you can see when the car computer decided it was time to fire the airbags.
>>29085982>top in almost every category>worst duration and efficiency (the only two factors that the average buyer is going to look at)how is this possiblem
>>29091774Two things:1. I hope that truck was OK. It looks sick from the rear.2. That news anchor woman personality is beautiful and I want to see her dick drunk on BBC.
>>29082948>The US DOT regs stop anyone from selling something actually bad or dangerousOne of the common wisdoms in Scandinavia is that you can buy winter tires, they perform fantastic, but worn to half thread depth the same synthetic testing is going to yield very very different results. But this is also the region where people make sure their commercial vehicles will have inspection being done on summer tires, so you can drive illegal tires with the wrong load index, since non commercial winter tires generally perform better than the commercial reinforced ones. That said, it doesn't really matter for summer tires. >>29084824Dutch seem to make acceptable studless winter tires.
>>29091913Instead of engineering the tire properly they just make the compound as soft as possible to make it perform well and be quiet. That doesn't bode well for efficiency or longevity.
>>29092234>Linglong Tires>Instead of engineering the tire properly they just make the compound as soft as possible to make it perform well and be quiet.>That doesn't bode well for efficiency or longevity.Picture shows same problem with competing brand Comforser. Perhaps various chinese tire brands use the gimmick approach of soft and fast-wear compounds to hide problems until they can get enough espionage trade secrets from other tire companies that have made successful performance models such as Pilot Sport A/S 4 or ExtremeContact DWS 06 Plus.
>the ride isn't over until you comeCUMFORCER
>>29091934>average toyota owner
Just got some milevers for the pilot, seem fine
>>29082951>413 dollars for linglongsdire
>>29092666>413 dollarsMore like 265 dollars, or 231 €. The yen's not been doing so good recently.Dunno how other prices in Japan have been affected.
>>29092435>the ride isn't over until you come>CUMFORCERSuitable tires for the Cumrolla
>>29093022He moved east last I heard. Saw it in person before it was done. It's pretty neat.
>>29093022Are those 3rd gen Tacoma wheels?
>>29091148Kek. I grew up in the San Gabriel valley and this was literally like a third of all my classmates dads.
>>29082943They fucking suck ASS my god
>>29094865I tried asking Gemini AI the following "How do Linglong passenger tires compare to walmart branded tires in terms of performance and longevity for use in Arizona?". The basic recommendation was Walmart Douglas Touring A/S All-Season Tire over the Linglong Crosswind HP010 Plus 195/55R16 87H tires.
So the current chinese tire hack or manufacturing gimmick is that to get performance, they use soft materials and a lot of silica, but that makes the tires wear fast?
>>29082943This is the second time I've seen someone shilling these circular pieces of black garbage
>>29095225>I tried asking Gemini AI the followingI stopped reading right there
>>29084829In Australia they're a highly recommend mid-range brand. If someone asks me what standard tyres they should get, I usually just say grab a set of Kumho's in the style that suits.
>>29096994Can't pay me all the money in the world to become a cum hoe.
>>29083687VW Tiguan uses Linglong when you buy it >>29084380
>>29082943>pull up to a big truck>its fucking linglongsThey're so fucking cheap but i cannot blame anyone just trying to get down the road
>>29097496I see a lot of heavy trucks running Sailuns or Haidas. They're 1/3 the cost of a Michelin but the Michelin doesn't last 3x as long. If your retarded fleet drivers are going to fuck them anyways it doesn't make much sense to spend 3x as more.
Michelin CrossClimate2 Grand Touring All-Season Tires What's the real difference between these sizes? Also is it correct to assume that more thread means more tire life? I really don't want to buy thinner tires if it means i gotta replace them more often. 205/55R1691H205/60R1692V205/65R1695H215/55R1697H215/60R1695V
>>29097715Only trucks i see on the road with Michelins are hot shot drivers. Maybe they need more grip for uneven loads who knows i bet they just want to ball out on a set for the hell of it.
>>29085599It's not the first time either.https://www.euroncap.com/press-media/mg-3-receives-four-stars-but-suffers-rare-and-serious-seat-failure-in-euro-ncap-crash-test/>>29087484Brakes failed.https://www.autoevolution.com/news/watch-xiaomi-su7-max-racetrack-crash-shows-skimping-on-brakes-can-be-deadly-242120.html
>>29082943>out of nowhere a bunch of social media posts making memes about those tyres>a month later it reaches /o/i wonder if the chinks really tried to shill on /o/ or if /o/tists are just slow on the meme
>>29098925https://tiresize.com/comparison/Here's a little tool that visualizes different tyre sizes.In general, having more sidewall doesn't mean more tread. A wider tyre could "theoretically" last longer because the load is distributed over a wider area, but practically there is no difference, you would need way wider tyres than can fit your car.
>>29099051>brakes fail >start whipping the wheel.and back forth
>>29099053chinks do shill on /o/ and other boardshttps://archive.4plebs.org/o/thread/29078160/
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>>29099135The advantage of having more sidewall is that the sidewall may balloon out to protect the rims from getting curb rash. Typically, the road noise may also be less than from a short sidewall (low profile) tire.
>>29099218That's a method of scrubbing speed.
>>29099577genius
>>29082943>biggest bang for buck tires in the world right nowSome people say the walmart tires are the biggest bang for the buck based upon warranty service wherever you move to.
>>29084627Kek my car has goodride
>>29091774
>>29103200Does it deliver?
I rented a Mustgay GT from Hertz that came with shitty mismatched Chinesium tires. The thing would nearly spin out when trying to accelerate to pass on the freeway. It's fun if you're just trying to do rolling burnouts around town, but not useful for ackthual perfwhoremans driving
>>29084819Those are just some brands I hadn't seen around until very recently.Mabor is local and old (now part of Continental), but only recently reappeared. Norauto (and Feu Vert) are french autoservice chainstores, so probably just oem Michelins.>>29098925>>29099135Everything else equal, wider tires may even give you less grip, specially in wet, since lower surface pressure>>29099577Higher profile = more flex = better damping on bumpy terrainLower profile = less flex = better handling curving
>>2910322014 inch wheel on a car that weighs less than a ton and has 67 hp. It delivers whatever little there is to deliver.
>>29103323>lower surface pressureSurface pressure is just tire pressure. Whatever your tire pressure is, is your surface pressure.
>>29082943yeah they sure do bangusually on the highway or far from home
>>29106276
>>29082943What are some good tires for my 2004 stock WRX that I just use as a daily and drive normal with.Been getting michelin pilot sport 4 and recently pilot sport 5 but man it's getting expensive and less deals these days.Should I start easing back on them and get more "quality daily everyday" type tires you would use on a civic or corolla or something
>>29106834If there was a way to get a bigger contact patch for a given tire pressure and weight, such as mounting wider tires, your car would float off the ground due to unequal forces.Wait that's actually what happens in reality, your car lifts up slightly until the contact patch is the same size again.
>>29106853Physics don't care about mental gymnastics:Bigger contact patch=lower ground pressure, all else equalPut wider tires, get lower ground pressure That simple
>>29106903>Bigger contact patch=lower ground pressure, all else equalYou have it backwards. Lower tire pressure equals bigger contact patch. That's why bigger contact patch equals lower ground pressure. Because tire pressure equals ground pressure.It's physically impossible to increase the contact patch of the tire without reducing tire pressure, if weight remains the same. Assuming you have a properly inflated tire and aren't resting on the rim or sidewall.
>>29106903It's true though, only lowering the tyre pressure will change this, and it will change it lengthways rather than acrossways.
