Is he gonna save $32,000 now that diesel prices are double?
>>29099223I’m gonna be real I’m not gonna switch out to a CT and have to stop every 200 miles. Plus no gooseneck
>>29099228> have to stop every 200 milesUh, every car you stop more often than that. That's 3+ hours of driving.
>>29099232Why would I stop?
>>29099223I'd rather take the bus than drive a cybertruck.
>>29099232I drive 650 miles one way pretty regularly, I only stop once per trip to top off the tank. Bladderlet
And paid $15,000 in electricity costs. Cybertrucks are pigs, they burn through electricity extremely quickly compared to other electric cars.
Why didn't he get a Ram EV?
>>29099223>Buy a six figure electric truck to save $16000 in gasHe's lost more than $16000 depreciationAnd its not like electricity is free, he's still paying for that
>>29099267>And its not like electricity is freeWith solar it kind of is when you normally produce more than you consume. If he has a lot of land and lives in tornado alley he may also own a wind turbine for similar effect.
>>29099242>>29099252These people wear diapers when they drive.
>>29099254Electricity is cheap. He prolly spend $2000.>>29099267No longer six figures if you include savings.
>>29099272You can’t hold a bladder for 5 hours? Are you a woman?
>>29099223You already own a diesel truck, buying a cyber Truck is going to take you 10+ years to break even on gas
>>290992711.) He'd have to own a lot of land to put in enough solar panels and or windmills to produce enough electricity to reliably charge a cybertruck regularly2.) He has to buy all those solar panels and windmills which is also expensiveHe just bought the cybertruck, which means he would have had to bought the solar panels/windmills in the last year, very expensive.>>29099274>No longer six figures if you include savings.He lost money buying a cybertruck because of depreciation.$16000 is no where near enough to flip the depreciation costs.>Tesla Cybertrucks have experienced aggressive, rapid depreciation, dropping roughly 35% to 45% in value in just their first year of ownership. This decline is exceptionally steep compared to traditional pickup trucks, which historically lose only about 20% of their value in the first year.>Owners requesting trade-in quotes directly through Tesla or major appraisal platforms have reported receiving offers between $61,000 and $73,500 for vehicles that originally cost $100,000 to $120,000.He lost WAY more than the savings he got from gas vs electricity.And again, he still has to pay for the electricity through the city or buying expensive solar panels/windmills.So he saved $16000 MINUS the cost of the electricity.
>>29099276You're chronically dehydrated and falsely equate it to masculinity. You are a fragile shell of a human being destined to suffer eternal inadequacy.
>>29099288Whatever you think buddy
>>29099290Yes. Drink water bitch.
>>29099294I drink plenty. I keep a cooler in the back full of it on drives.
>>29099287Solar panels aren't expensive and the roof area should already cover the normal needs.
>>29099232My car holds 400 miles worth of fuel.
>>29099287>Diesel savings double to $32,000 per year>after 4 years he's saved over $100,000
>>29099304>Poking holes if your roof for solar panels.Just put it on the ground like a smart person.
>>29099304>Installing a home solar system has a high upfront cost averaging around $31,100, but the physical panels themselves make up only a small part of that total price.>The Panels (12%): The actual photovoltaic panels cost around $3,700 of a standard system.>The Rest of the Bill (88%): Most of your money pays for inverters, electrical wiring, mounting racks, installation labor, local permits, and company sales or overhead costsYour dumb or just trying to be deceptive.Yes panels aren't that bad, but it's everything else that actually make them usable that's expensive.And those numbers are only for a house, the anon was talking about putting large amounts of them on a large open land.Plus now you have to maintain that system which also cost money.Its not just installing the system and forgetting about it for 30 years.It needs regular maintenance and repair.
>>29099316anon basically everything is solid state unless you get physical breakers. cables last decades as long as they're in a conduit and not directly exposed to UV (then they still last years)aluminum extrusion isn't ruinous, inverters get cheaper every day, sub-1500 for 12kw is typical on Amazon now, the main cost will be installation which is far easier and cheaper on the ground than on a roof, and permits can usually be circumvented entirely by treating the mounting solution as "temporary" with specific frame designs.
>>29099316Everyone who gets solar panels has saved money in the long money.
Meanwhile a 20 year old cummins ram is still worth most of its new price and a 20 year old cyber truck won't exist
>>29099223>giving up a kino ram for a literal fagmobile>he's lost more on depreciation than he saved in diesel>in ten years his old ram will be worth morePretty retarded move.
>>29099320>>29099321This has gone way off what was the original topic was about.Yes over time like 30 years you can save money by installing solar panels but it's still expensive when first installed.But this thread isn't about solar panels, it's about how the guy bought a cybertruck to save money.And with shit like depreciation and still having to pay for electricity (yes even with solar panels) it did not save him money.Also, a cybertruck is still a truck.EV's aren't an appliance like a microwave just because it uses electricity.It has cooling systems, electric motors, advance computer systems, shocks, tires, wheels, brakes etc. etc.A Cybertruck doesn't need an oil change but tires are expensive, suspension is expensive, replacing computers is expensive etc. etc.>While normal truck tires last 50,000 miles, many Cybertruck owners report needing replacements anywhere between 6,000 and 25,000 miles depending on how aggressively they drive.>A full set, including installation, taxes, and a necessary alignment, routinely runs $2,000 to $2,600.>Component Costs: An individual OEM replacement air strut alone costs $900 to $2,500+ before labor. If the air compressor pump fails out of warranty, expect a bill between $1,500 and $5,000.>Based on similar premium Tesla models, replacing a primary media or driving computer unit out of pocket will likely cost $2,000 to $3,500.You don't buy a cybertruck to save money.It costs a lot of money to buy, run and maintain.
>>290992231. I've seen one, maybe two of those "cyber trucks" in my neighborhood. Very stupid, I thought it was a joke.2. I saved $160,000 by "not purchasing bullshit" too! I'm 10x better!!
i ride an ebike
>>29099316>the anon was talking about putting large amounts of them on a large open land.Youre both retarded apartment dwellers.
>>29099271>if>may
>>29099331>Yes over time like 30 years you can save money by installing solar panels but it's still expensive when first installed.No, it's savings immediately. Maybe a few years. You can get a loan where the payments are equivalent to your electric bill savings. And the loans are 7 years, so after that it's pure savings.
>>29099380>You can get a loan where the payments are equivalent to your electric bill savingsShow me
>>29099381https://www.starone.org/resources/calculators/solar-loan-calculator
>I paid 100k+ for a new vehicle to save 16k on gas :)These people can't be real.
>>29099388Per year. And now it's $32,000 per year due to Trump.
>>29099381Bro! My state electric plant PAYS ME to just ASK PERMISSION to put electric panels on my roof! In ONE day!!They gave me $40,000 for my permission and THEN PAID ME $400,000 when they were finished!AND gave me a blowjob!!!WOW!Owning an electric car is making me a millionaire! Immediately!
>>29099380>>29099384>You can get a loan where the payments are equivalent to your electric bill savings>$583 monthly loan payment>Average energy bill without solar: $325>Have to pay over $5000 in interestThat's even if you can get 100% of your electricity from the panels which is nearly impossible because of shit like weather and location.Let alone trying to power a whole house PLUS a huge EV truck regularly on a tiny setup a 30k loan would cover.You didn't even read your own link or just are just straight up lying.I'm tired of talking with you EV faggots.Im done.Fuck you and fuck off.
>>29099395It's fine bro, you sound like a woman when it comes to economics. In the end, all that matters is money out, and with solar less money goes out overall. You can either get a long term loan and get immediate savings, or a short term loan and reap the rewards sooner.
>>29099316>now you have to maintain that system which also cost money.No, you're stupid. There is no maintenance.t. solar panel owner>>29099331>a cybertruck needs tires and shocks, so it's expensive to own>but I'll conveniently forget that the ram does too>and oil changes>and coolant>and transmission fluid>and spark plugs>and O2 sensors>etc.
>>29099392>I have to pay whatever the gas station charges me>and I am happy about it!
>>29099418>Yes, home solar systems do need some repairs and maintenance over time, though the panels themselves are quite tough and rarely break down.>While salespeople often call solar a "set-and-forget" technology because panels have no moving parts, the wider system includes wiring, mounting hardware, and inverters that do require occasional attention.>the national average for a solar repair visit typically falls between $250 and $1,500, with most standard fixes averaging around $850>The hidden financial trap many homeowners overlook is roof repair. If your roof leaks or needs to be completely replaced after the solar panels are installed, you cannot simply patch around them.>A solar company must come out, disconnect the system, remove all the panels, store them, wait for the roofers to finish, and then reinstall everything. This process generally costs $2,000 to $5,000+ strictly in solar labor before the roofing company even charges a single dollar for their work.>but I'll conveniently forget that the ram does tooNo shit the Ram needs all that tooI was pointing out that EVfags think their car isn't a car but like an electric appliance and don't think about regular repair and maintenance cost.You solar panel/ev guys ITT are a walking talking dunning kruger effect.
>>29099430>wiring, mounting hardware, and inverters that do require occasional attentionThere's no dunning kruger anywhere except with your posts. I have literally had solar installed on my roof for years and you must be retarded if you think that wires and metal bars need maintenance.
>>29099223>$16k>free truckA Ram starts at $45k and that embarrassing pile of sheet metal and ipads was $75k.
>>29099425>>I have to pay whatever the gas station charges me>>and I am happy about it!When you go to walmart do you try to haggle with the cashiers to get 50 cents off your toilet paper?
>>29099507>You scrutinize $1600 a year expenses? Do you also scrutinize $30 a year expenses?
>>29099271>with solar.In the US a solar setup that can charge an EV is $25-35k and lasts 5-15 years. Is that free?
>>29099512>he spends $30 a year on toilet paper
>>29099515More like 50 years, and replacing the panels and batteries is cheap as hell.
>>29099516How the fuck are you going through so much paper? I don't use it half the time because my bidet leaves it squeaky clean. Or do you buy some expensive toilet paper? I just buy Kirkland.
>>29099517My Miata was $4k. I’m not spending 30k for a solar system to charge a 40k car that has mass-surveillance built in that I wouldn’t enjoy driving.$4k. Manual wishbones lsd 2,300 lbs. no one that chooses a car like that wants an EV.
>>29099522You drive a $4,000 car. Your opinion on cars matters as much as Asmondgold's opinion on steak.
>>29099357Do not do this.
>>29099557>insulting others for being cheap>entire point of the thread is how evs are supposedly more affordableHow are you so terrible at this?
How the fuck do you spend 16k in fuel in a year on a light duty pickup? Is he driving 30k-40k miles a year or is he a hauling 22k lb trailer with him literally everywhere he goes? Even today at $7 a gallon that's 2285 gallons, and assuming 8 mpg that's 18285 miles which is 150% of the national average.
>>29099223The cybertruck is a light duty truck, like an f-150, or 1500. It's a very specific workload where it would make sense to be using a truck when you're spending that much on gas, but you also don't need an hd truck. The cybertruck is also hideous. If I was forced to get an electrick truck, (lol) I'd rather get a discontinued lightning than a new cybertruck.
>>29099731>The cybertruck is a light duty truck, like an f-150, or 1500. Like fuck it is. Have you seen what happens when you try to tow with one? It's a crossover not a truck.
>>29099733Sorry, sorry. It's classified as a light duty truck, but they decided to make the structure from aluminum, and the cosmetic body pannels out of steel. That way you get the worst of both worlds, with no upsides.
>>29099630 Nobody said they were "affordable". The argument was that you're saving money in the long run.
>>29099630Bro, it's a $4000 truck! Can you even buy one that runs for that much?
>>29099782Clearly not. The only way to get affordable transportation is to buy an $80,000 steel box that makes everyone hate you on sight then try to claw back the purchase price over the next decade with theoretical future fuel savings.
>>29099390Oh so maybe after a decade you'll begin to actually see savings, depending on gas (and electricity) prices. That's great.
>>29099742>The argument was that you're saving money in the long run.I already save money by running older vehicles and working on them myself. The money I spend on fuel for them is negligible. I'm still way money ahead over buying a new Tesla and all the bullshit subscriptions/electrical crap required to run it.
>>29099816But other people already have solar and need to replace their ageing car anyway. Your situation doesn't apply to everybody.
>>29099816100,000,000 million new vehicles are sold every year. If those people decided to buy used, the price of a used car would be as expensive as new.
>>29099839>But other people already have solar and need to replace their ageing car anyway.Hell I already have solar and it still wouldn't pencil out. You realize they size your solar system to you current electricity needs. Then adding an electric vehicle after the fact increases your usage to the point that you are again consuming electricity rather than producing it. I had my system put on before I got married and my wife wasn't living here full time yet. Now with her and two kids and running the A/C more my power consumption has gone up and the solar system doesn't 100% cover it anymore. Yes some people DIY their systems and oversize them more than the 10% industry standard, but that's pretty fucking rare. >>29100078>100,000,000 million gonna go ahead and doubt that number.
>>29100103Expanding a solar system doesn't require you to invest into things like an inverter. There's also little reason to size it to your needs instead of sizing it to what your roof can handle. You always end up feeding excess electricity into the grid.Even if you have to buy elecricity in winter it's still going to save you money compared to not having solar at all. EVs charged from the grid are cheaper to operate than having to buy fuel.100 million corresponds to the number of cars produced in total, half of them are made in China alone. Maybe not all of them are sold but that's not going to make a huge difference.
>>29100103>>100,000,000 million >gonna go ahead and doubt that number.Oh it's 84,000,000. Off by 16%. Woopdeedoo, still a huge number.
>>29100125>EVs charged from the grid are cheaper to operate than having to buy fuel.You phrase it like you're not• buying a charge station + supplies + equipment + worker's salary• buying the energy to charge your car from the grid.And, no, that's not "cheaper." Or efficient, even by "Level 1" charging standards/costs.
>>29100138Bro is really trying his best to argue that electricity isn't more economical than gasoline or diesel. Literally all industries are moving to electric because it's more economical. Why do you think all autonomous fleets are electric? I haven't heard of an autonomous taxi service that uses gasoline.
>>29100141And Russian "bloc" housing is "more economical" than mansions in California, too.I wonder who makes more money? Hmm.And yes, I mean the housing developer making more money. Never mind the obvious implication of the tenant.
>>29099274Buying E from travel chargers can often be far more than gasoline.
>>29100142What the fuck does housing have to do this this? It's not at all related.
>>29099384If you need a loan for solar you should absolutely NOT get themOpportunity cost is too highI love my solar panels but nigga they ain't magic and if you only care about money some mutual funds, wood stove, and heat pump is going to have a way better ROI.
>>29099430Nigger didn't put his solar panels on the pole barn lmao
>>29100147ROI on solar goes up significantly over time, and protects against power outages.
>>29100138How much do you pay for electricity compared to the cost of gasoline or diesel? 120V is only standard for Americans anyway, the rest of the world uses 230V. And 400V AC chargers are standard for EV+house owners.3 miles per hour doesn't even sound that bad when you let it charge for half the day but most outlets aren't made for constant use.
>>29100137No, you said 100,000,000 million, which is one billion million. or 100,000,000,000,000Learn how to write numbers.
>>29100125>Expanding a solar system doesn't require you to invest into things like an inverter.At the limit of my current inverter, so I'd either need to upgrade to a newer one, or install a second one. >>29100125>here's also little reason to size it to your needs instead of sizing it to what your roof can handle.That's just how it is/was done around here. It may have changed since then, but with the government payback program you could only oversize by a certain percentage before it wasn't covered under their program. Basically the power company would pay you for all the electricity you produced at the end of each year for 10 years. Not just the amount you over-produced. I actually bank power in the winter and spring, and then it gets used up in the summer heat due to running the a/c. Then when fall hits I start banking agian.
>>29100155Actually now I'm fucking up. 100 million million or 100,000,000,000,000 Still a non-sensical number...
>>29100155Imagine being dumber than A.I. Look, it knew exactly what I was talking about despite my mistake. Now go eat crayons you retard.
>>29100159>I actually bank power in the winter and spring, and then it gets used up in the summer heat due to running the a/cHow? Do you have storage in the MWh range?
How much do diesel trucks depreciate in a year?
>>29100186Not that much
Idk why cybertruck failed
>>29099272zozzle. female
>>29100163Oh look you fucked up and rather than just admitting it you're doubling down. Lol, LMAO even!
>>29100169When you're on grid they let you bank your unused power during peak production months and use it up in the months where you are using more power than you are producing.
At worse it will take me 11 years to burn through $16,000 USD worth of diesel and i only use that much when i am working big jobs away from home where I wont be able to plug in to....anywhere.
>>29099267They're 75k now. A gas truck with the same towing capacity is about 50k now.Gas and diesel being stupidly expensive right now makes the Tesla a really good choice.
>>29100568How big is your battery?
>>29100565>"hahaha I'm so smart because I can't handle small mistakes">doesn't properly capitalize LOLSorry bro, you're just retarded.
>>29100981Dude, if you just buy an oil company, you won't have to pay for gasoline anymore.Duh.
>>29099740>>29099733The only posts ITT that need paying attention to
>>29100983No battery, grid tie system. They meter what I over produce in high production months and then bank it for the months where I underproduce and then pull from my energy credits. Once I use all my production credits up I then buy power at the normal rate. >>29100986Tripling down even... Maybe you can 100,000,000,000,000 billion million quadrillion septillion down if you keep at it long enough! Since we're just posting up retarded fake numbers anyways...
>>29101067Can you get your car hooked up via V2H?
>>29099266this but unironically. ive heard the ev ram and the f150 lightning are Good, Actuallyeven the wonky distribution of ev shit makes them not handle like retard buses anymore because the weight distribution is no longer 99% front
I'm sticking with my car.
My truck is from the 90s. I will pass on the CT.
>>29099223Cybertruck can tow less than me beater ass 2005 silverado, or even a gasoline 2000$ expedition. "Saved on diesel" is irrelevant because a cubertruck cant do anything close to what a modern diesel can do
>>29101083I'm sure a person could, no reason you shouldn't be able to... I don't own an even though so it's not something I would be interested in doing.
>>29101921My mom and dad owned 1 to 2 pickup trucks at all times since before I was born. Never once did they tow anything. Ever.
>>29101921What exactly do you tow that a compact car wouldn't be able to handle?
>>29099731>>29099733Yeah I came in here wondering why this guy traded off a diesel to a sub-light duty. Whatever his workload was, clearly lower than that which necessitated a diesel. Could have just bought an older gas truck and saved even more money by not spending $60k+ on a CT.
just seems like literally all someone has to do is rear end you and the cybertruck is just fucking doneso. People just seem to completely ignore repair cost for things like fender-benders and stick their head in the sand, when it's basically fatal to newer cars, especially EVs.
>spend 80k to save 16ksmart
>>29099254He lost more than that just from the depreciation of the cybertruck. You can't give them away and the insurance company will total it for a fender bender and give you $10k for it
>>29102284So you can buy a Cybertruck for $20,000 below sticker price and save even more money?! Holy shit what kind of retard wouldn't buy a cybertruck!?
>>29101067>he got outperformed by a machine and is now upsetSorry bro, A.I. wins this argument.
>>29102871>I was just pretending to be retarded. No, no you weren't.
>>29099223>EV fag completely fails to mention the cost of having his house wired for a fast-charger, or his electrical bill.
>>29102019VehiclesHeavy machineryA swim spa once
>>29099223>$300 a week on diesel back with prices were lowHow? I blew $150 last week on my trugg and thought I used it a fuck load doing about 500 miles
>>29102019A compact car.
>>29103227Level 2 chargers can be had for like ¥20000, and it costs very little to get a 240 outlet installed.You can do the math yourself on what it would cost to fill an EV. Both electrical cost and battery capacity is measured in kWh.
>>29103362I blow like 500 dollars a day if I’m running with my trailer.
>>29104001It’s about $500 for me to run 80,000lbs for 200 miles and come back empty at 30k.
>>29104013I’m talking pickup getting around 13 mpg.
>>29099610Yes goyim, do not ride an ebike!You WILL buy a base model nu-car listed for $80,000You WILL finance a 48-month loan at $1,200 a month at 30% interestYou WILL buy insurance that does jack shit for $120/monthYou WILL spend $120 filling up the gas tank every week.You WILL spend the money unlocking DLC features to be able to drive normallyYou WILL enjoy being stuck in congested traffic on the way to and back from workAND YOU WILL BE HAPPY.
>>29104028This board is for cars
>>29104040Thanks Sherlock, I haven't realized that already. Good job.
>>29104040Yeah, cause car owners are the Bronies of transportation. Otherwise it would be part of >>>/n/
>>29103998>Both electrical cost and battery capacity is measured in kWh.In America it's measured in mpg equivalent.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_per_gallon_gasoline_equivalent
>>29103968There are compact cars that can pull their own weight.
>>29102871Care to quintuple down? We're so close to 50 million!
>>29106989>he still doesn't get itIt's ok, one day you will learn English well enough.
>>29099254This.The math doesnt work out no matter how you try to get that $16k in savings.The only possible way to even get close is if he has an existing solar setup (not factored into his "savings") and he runs a limited daily route and is able to recharge it nightly at home.$16k in fuel for that ram is equal to about $15k in charging costs at public high speed chargers for the cybertruck to get the same mileage.
>>29107119Can you go into more detail regarding the assumed fuel and electricity consumption?You don't really have to drive long distances to use a lot of fuel, driving at slow speeds in the city or in mountainous areas heavily favors EVs.
>>29100143Nope. It has to be like $0.80 a kwh, and that was before the child rapist started a war.
>>29107128>driving at slow speeds in the city or in mountainous areas heavily favors EVs.Its not a prius.The cybertruck weighs over 3 tons. Stop&Go traffic annihilates its range.Going uphill annihilates its range.
>>29107166And going downhill regains it. The mass doesn't matter.
>>29107095Just a few more and we can get to 100,000 billion! Making up nonsense numbers is fun!
>>29107166Stop&go is bad for ICE because the engine is very inefficient at low speeds and the you constantly have to brake, annihilating all the energy you put into acceleration. Electric motors have a broader spectrum and are for most part single-speed and the motor also doubles as a regenerative brake so you can recuperate part of the energy invested.
>>29107201It's just like watching Kanye West trying to figure out why people think he's a gay fish.
>>29107202Youre talking in theoreticals and not real world observations. Cybertruck goes from 300 miles range to 90 miles when towing.The same thing happens in the desert when it has to cool the batteries.Same thing happens in the winter when you dont want to drive with the passenger compartment at -2°Imagine that dodge ram going from 12mpg to 3mpg when towing. That doesnt happen.
>>29107287What exactly does that have to do with regen braking? Even gigantic garbage trucks work well with electric motors.
>>29107287>Cybertruck goes from 300 miles range to 90 miles when towing.>towingLook on the highway at all the pickup trucks. Count how many you see that are towing and how many aren't.
>>29107289>has regen braking.>still drops from 300 mile range to 90 miles.
>>29099223I would rather walk than drive a cucktruck or any ev
>>29107350You mean while towing without ever actually using the regen brake? It's not some magic that cuts down all losses, it just help reduce the energy lost via friction brakes. You're not going to drive up a mountain and come back with a higher SoC unless you picked up extra cargo on the top.
>>29107314You do realize that putting weight in the bed has the same type of effect, right?The issue isnt "something behind the truck".The issue is the added weight that the truck has to move.
>>29107389The fact that people have reported sub-100 mile range AT ALL should be alarming to you.And as a side note theres actually a mine at the top of the mountain and the massive dump truck they use is electric with regen and since it goes down loaded and back up empty it recharges itself in a pseudo perpetual motion machine setup (uses up potential energy, but still kind of cool).
>>29107399If you want to tow something for 100 miles you should do it in a way that minimizes drag.
>>29107405If I want to tow something 100 miles apparently I cant do it in a cybertruck.
>>29107391At maximum load the worst case scenario is 110-130 miles. Not sure where the 90 mile number is coming from.
>>29099267they're paying for the early adopter trugg, in 10 years when a good electrugg costs 45k they'll be more cost efficient than a prius
Satan does magic tricks all the time to show he's legit, yet I'm still not impressed.
>>29107201Cool it with the antisemitism
>>29107437Even 110 is pathetic.For the record I like the EV concept. But implementation has been forced and the technology isnt ready.For some wagie who commutes 15 miles for his McJob its fine.But youre telling me that if I want to go pickup a project car it has to be within a 54 mile radius or im going to run out of power during the trip?!?!Ive driven 300 miles, loaded a car, drove halfway home and stopped to fill up (which took 2 minutes) on the way back.To do that in a cybertruck is going to be an additional THREE FUCKING HOURS AT CHARGING STATIONS during the trip.Thats absolute clown world.>b-b-but how often do you actually make that trip???Thats just one example of how neutered life with an EV is.
>>29107597It's fine. 98% of truck drivers will have a use for it since they don't carry 10,000lb loads for hundreds of miles with a strict time schedule that doesn't allow 20 minute stops. Then when all the workers and companies are using EV trucks, they can undercut ones using gas trucks, forcing them to adopt them anyway and just figure out ways to work around the mileage restrictions.
>>29107605Its 230 miles from my house to Big Bear ski resort.It take 50 minutes to charge a cybertruck from 0% to 80%.If im driving from sea level to 6,752 feet elevation during the winter, how much longer will the trip take with a cybertruck vs a Tacoma or F150?
>>29104157Not in America. You know our towing standards are vastly different, right?
>>29107558>Cool it with the antisemitismAh it's all making sense now. The guy making up the 6 gorillion cars sold per year must be a dirty jew...
>>29107617I don't know. Maybe 30 minutes? Depends if you usually stop for gas, then grab a bite to eat or break. Do you instead charge the car while you eat? Every road trip I went on I would do other stuff while charging. I wouldn't just sit in my car.
>>29099246Fag.
>>29107626How? Is a car that's allowed to tow 1.6 metric tons in Europe not allowed to tow 3500lbs in America?
>>29107766It could be unbeatable in every speed record and I still wouldn't drive one. Your shilling is not working.
>>29107766>Buying a $100k shitbox because some autismo trillionaire wanted to revisit nostalgia from the PSX era that flopped
>>29099223My self respect is worth a hell of a lot more than $16k.
>>29099223>spend $70,000+ on a vehicle>but I SAVED $16k!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>29107728You suck at math.>cybertruck loses 15%-30% of range in cold weather to heat batteries and passenger compartment.>cybertruck loses another 15%-30% if travelling up steep grades.Thats potentially (3) hour-long stops (just to get there)I do the round trip without stopping for fuel at all.
>>29107617>It take 50 minutes to charge a cybertruck from 0% to 80%.That's more of a Tesla specific issue since their Superchargers only work at 400V. Get an electric pickup with 800V and use fitting chargers and it should charge a lot faster.
>>29108085F150 Lightning EV:>32 minutes to charge from 15% to 80%>200 mile range @ 75mph (72° and no grades).So 2 hours charging (to get there) instead of 3. Wow, such a better alternative....
>>29108101That's the 98kwh version and not the 131kwh one.
