These things need to be fucking banned.They require no insurance, no registration, no plate, not even a driver's license. All they do is slow down traffic to 25mph wherever they go and when you tell them to get on the sidewalk WHERE THEY BELONG they just start speeding and killing grandmas.These retarded non transporters are nothing but a menace, making tons of noise and pollution, creating congestion on the road, and killing our elderly mothers and fathers.Why are they allowed?
1 - There's already a thread about this at the top of the catalog.2 - My innawoods ass has never seen one.3 - Riding even manual bicycles on sidewalks is generally illegal. It shouldn't be that way, I ride mine on sidewalks because it's safer, but the law says bicycles (and I presume by extension e-bikes) are road-only.
>>29100212Bicycles do NOT belong in the road.
>>29100219I very much agree.But that's the law in most places. My state has it at state-level that bicycles can't be on sidewalks (picrel). There's an actual bike lane on the road nearest me, but I ride ~10 feet away in the grass because it's safer. Haven't ridden my bike in 2 years, but I still wouldn't go on a road other than rural places where you see a car maybe every 10 minutes.
Don't civilized places usually have separate bicycle lanes or even a separate road network for these things?I have occasionally had to make a little room for someone bicycling on the side of a country road, but those people usually have the common sense to stay as far away from the cars as possible.
>>29100234No, most civilized places don't rip up the entire road network because some retarded 15 minute city shill is obsessed with the d*tch
>>29100234>I have occasionally had to make a little room for someone bicycling on the side of a country road,Case in point. They are blocking traffic. Just run them over.
>>29100208Avoiding the government is based.
Bicycle threads should be a bannable offence like if you post a car thread on /n/ it's deleted immediately
>>29100208Im fine with the 250w ones. The 750w+ ones on my comfy forest walking bath make my blood boil. Fucking kids flying by me and my dog at 30mph+
>>29100434i have a 650w model and it does not do 30mph. maybe on a downhill it would but so would a normal bicycle
>>29100208if you live in a urban area that's dense enough to be 30mph or lower speed limit everywhere, or a suburban area with good bike lanes, then e-bikes/scooters/unicycles are the best transportation
>>29100232they should have their own "lane" to keep them out of my way when im walking or driving
>>29100643Sounds like communism to me.
>>29100212>the law says bicycles (and I presume by extension e-bikes) are road-only.That varies by USA state and then to a finer degree by USA city. My state has bicycle laws that state bicycles and e-bikes are legal on sidewalks unless local ordinances limit them. As it turns out, my city has explicit laws that says bicycles and e-bikes are legal on sidewalks by default unless otherwise prohibited. Of course, my state defines e-bikes are subject to bicycle laws as long as they are:-=-=- Not more than 750 watts-=-=- Meet and do not exceed limits of Class 1, 2,,3.-=-=- Have working pedal drive system and are electric motor-assisted.Other electric 2-wheeled vehicles are not e-bikes and require the vehicle to be license, a valid operator permit, and vehicle insurance. Those vehicles are not allowed on sidewalks and most trails where either pedestrians or bicycles are allowed. Those vehicles are explcitly NOT allowed on trails and public mountain bike paths. Thus, all those 1000 watt ebikes are not legally classed as ebikes in my state. They are emotos aka e-moto.
>>29100208>>29100219>>29100232>t.>>29100257>Just run them over.Yes, because committing attempted murder always awards you positive social credit scores because you were too inept to go around when you had every opportunity.Please do not reproduce.
>>29100208>These things need to be fucking banned.>Why are they allowed?No, Ebikes have a place and do not need banning. They are a great boon to elderly and to people who live in hilly areas and need motor assistance. The problems come from a tiny minority of riders that are irresponsible assholes on the ebikes. They need to be ticketed, but the police are never around like in the old days due to budget cuts (patrol emphasis programs cut or eliminated) or "Green Initiatives" to reduce patrolling because that causes carbon emissions. My city suffered from both due to the city council listening to the activists in 2020 due to George Floyd events causing a lot of anti-police emotions.The assholes don't get tickets, so they ride irresponsibly.
>>29101091Gas yourself you fucking /n/igger
>>29101115cope and seethe bozo.
>>29101122About what you fucking retard? Not getting paralized in a minor collision? Not getting get in raindays? Getting roadhead? Not destroying my prostate?Fuckig delusional vermin.
>>29101112i ride exactly like this (but not on purpose) (i am merely an incompetent rider with bad throttle control, im not trying to wheelie)
>>29101126That coal roller is a fucking faggot for blowing smoke at people driving. I don't give a damn what that other retard's ideology is, this shit for brains is a road hazard who needs their license shoved in a paper shredder.
>>29101126>fantasizes about getting his prostate destroyedabout time you came out of the closet.
>>29101134>hat other retard's ideology isgee i don't know, maybe not killing people with their car because the moron driver spergs out at every inconvenience in life and becomes a societal hazard to everyone else?
>>29101135What a fucking retard, no wonder you are a cyclists
>>29101143you’re fat and you smell
>>29101143Why do you faggots always come with a 2016 tier facebook folder?When did you start lurking/posting here?
>>29101143>made up case study>author a literal who?>studies showWhat a fucking retard, no wonder why you're confined to being a cagie.
>>29101132>i am merely an incompetent rider with bad throttle controlYour motor controller module is supposed to accept the variable resistance input from the thumb throttle. Did you buy some TEMU throttle that was merely an on/off switch? Or is the impedance level wrong for your throttle? That is, if you put your ebike together as a DIY unit, you might have bought a motor controller that expects a throttle range of 1 to 4800 ohms, but your throttle switch is some alibaba temu thing that ranges 1 to 220 ohms. So it's basically on/off in appearance to your motor controller. You can fix that problem without buying a new throttle by using an impedance bridge and putting your throttle (which is basically a potentiometer) in that bridge. The output range of that bridge would span the range, but of course be a bit twitchy as you are upscaling your existing potentiometer's resistance with that bridge hack.
>>29101154>>29101222>>29101309Eat shit and die
>>29100208>making tons of noise and pollution, creating congestion on the road, and killing our elderly mothers and fathers.um what? no they dont.
>>29101419Good rebuttal. Keep sitting in your chair malding at everybody on the internet.
>>29100208>Why are they allowed?Bicycles are allowed on most public roads as long as it is not a controlled access road or the road has a minimum required speed. Bicycles are also allowed on roads in which local governments accepted federal money to improve the road for bicycle usage. Unfortunately, many cities took the money and only did "lip service" for bicycle improvements. My city is one such. The improvement was basically to stencil a bicycle symbol on the asphalt pavement and to put up a very occasional tiny roadside sign with the text "Share The Road" along with a small bicycle symbol. The majority of the federal road money was probably then put into the general fund in order to pay social welfare costs of handling homeless and drug addicts along with anti-discrimination costs of providing extra services to certain areas of chronic repair needs due to constant vandalism or destruction of public infrastructure.
>>29100208Posts about bicycles and cycling should be on transportation >>/n/
>>29101398it was a joke. my bike does not have the necessary power to wheelie and i am in fact a mediocre (and thus WELL above average) rider whomst am capable of adequate throttle control.
>>29100208It's illegal to use a sidewalk
>>29101126that guy died
>>29102919he did? post vidya
>>29102913>It's illegal to use a sidewalkOnly in some places. A large number of states have default rules about allowing bicycles on sidewalks, and leaves it to local cities to prohibit them. My state does. Since my city and the adjoining three cities also allow bicycles on sidewalks, this means that ebikes within the bicycle definition are also allowed. The only limit on bicycles is that pedestrians always have the right of way on the sidewalk or parking lot.
>>29103098Your town is not the entire world
>>29100219>>29100208Can't you just pretend it is a heavy vehicle and wait for an overtaking opportunity? I wish more people used e-bike. It decreases the amount of cars on the road, making my commutes shorter.>>29102476This thread would get deleted there. This is about the POV of a car driver encountering e-bikes>>29103102Japan largely allows sidewalk riding for bikes. The dry law allows it when the road is too dangerous, and the bike rider has to go slow and give absolute priority to pedestrians.
>>29103192>Can't you just pretend it is a heavy vehicle and wait for an overtaking opportunity?Just because the rider weighs 350lbs doesn't make it a heavy vehicle. I'll crush it with my truck all the same.
>>29103198You can larp all you want tough guy, you won't do shit
>>29103192>Can't you just pretend it is a heavy vehicle and wait for an overtaking opportunity?THEY GOT IT ALL BLOCKED OFF
>>29103202>What happens when you enforce cyclists to not ride on sidewalks
If cyclists are too slow and block all the traffic, then why don't we simply encourage them to attach small motors to their bikes? A gas engine might prove too heavy or ponderous for novice riders, are electric motors good enough yet to fit on a bike and provide enough power?
>>29103223We tried that approach, however this makes idiots in cars mald and karens asking for the manager.
>>29103223>what if they put a motor on them?The thread is specifically about bikes with electric motors in them. Look at the OP, it’s got a lithium pack under the seat and a 500W motor.They’re apparently becoming a problem to city folk. People are operating them illegally without insurance, not following the road rules / etiquette, and kids are out getting themselves killed in them.
>>29103286>People are operating them without insurance,OY VEY
>>29103292I sued a kid for 2x the value of my car that he totaled this year because he didn’t have insurance. He’s probably still in debt from that.FAFO
>>29103298But I thought ebikes were all chinese pot tin tubes surrounding a lithium bomb? How could it possibly have damaged your Vehicle?
>>29103314He was in a Camry. The point in that specific exchange was the insurance part of it. It didn’t matter if he was on an e-bike or a 18 wheeler, you fuck someone’s car while operating a vehicle on the road? The bill is on you.
>>29103315this is why you should just carry a loaded gun if you're on a bike
>>29103320>I ruined this guy’s property.>I’m so poor that I ride an e-bike uninsured >I’’ll just murder him with a gun and ride off into the sunset so I don’t have to pay for my actionsSure, sure.
>>29103286>not following the road rules / etiquette, and kids are out getting themselves killed in them.I believe these two are the major reasons why there's a public disdain, nevermind goysurance.
>>29103360>12 year old trying to impress Stacey blasts into the highway in front of you for a TikTok for his 2 “followers”>Now you live the rest of your life knowing you killed a kid>Their parents sue you and cry despite you having zero way to have avoided it>You spend 3 years in court clearing your name I don’t want that.
>>29103364>Dashcam footage shows the full story in 4k resolution>Shows the kid being a full retard illegally operating a vehicle in a reckless manner endangering the public>failure of safe lane change>fucked around and found out>vindicatedinfluence streamers are a cancer and a blight upon society.
>>29103366>Just record yourself all the time to avoid liability!What a fucking dystopia this is.
>>29103370blame feminism.
>>29103371I won’t. I blame incompetence.“Hurr, you have to prove you didn’t do this intentionally because you’re a man in a hot rod.” Fuck that, innocent until proven guilty.
>>29100639yeah, i live in LA and i use the ebike for anything ~3 miles away which is most shit. Just use car for costco/shopping trips or further than 3 miles.Saves me so much time and money it's insane.It's also fun.
>>29103393>this makes burgers seethe for no logical reason
>>29103456Fuck you 15 minute city bughiver
>>29100241Yea they do. Car dependant infrastructure is anti human and ironically, shit to drive in.
>>29103602>>29103602you live like this, and have the nerve to call someone a bughiver....hilarious.
>>29103695true. was in SF for 2 months and it was so much nicer to drive in than LA. Wish i lived there desu.8 minutes to drive from stonetown mall to golden gate park.
>>29100208>These things need to be fucking banned.Only because those black kids that used to ride regular bikes managed to steal enough ebikes to now clown around on them. And give ebikes a bad name because no one here was able to blame the black kids for being the vast majority of the problem with ebikes. Picture: Claw method to knock an ebike rider off their bike. Most casual people have a drastic reaction, so a sucker claw across the eyes and face makes them jerk and fall off. The thief then abandons their cheap bike, hops onto the ebike, and rides it off.
>>29101553>The majority of the federal road money was probably then put into the general fund in order to pay social welfare costs of handling homeless and drug addicts along with anti-discrimination costs of providing extra services to certain areas of chronic repair needs due to constant vandalism or destruction of public infrastructure.The general fund is newly issued money. They don't need to take it from somewhere else in order to have it.
>>29103813They took the federal money and did very little "bicycle oriented" activity with it. The city claimed a lot of bicycle routes by simply stenciling a small bicycle symbol on the right lane of many roads. Some of these roads are still TRULY UNUABLE for bicycles because they are busy arterials where cars drive 35MPG to 45MPH on them. Very occasionally I've driven past bicyclists trying to prove their usual point (in an obnoxious way) by riding in the lane causing huge traffic jams. But generally it is too dangerous to ride a bike on these. But the city satisfied the various checklist criteria like add bike paths to existing major roads. The city built bike paths to nowhere by having paths to and from City Hall into the residential areas. As if anyone uses those paths and no one does, but that satisfied the build all new paths requirements. The city put those useless paths there because the land was available and thus took away no lane space from existing significant roads.Video: It was claimed by the bicyclist's family that the car driver was at fault.
>>29103871>Basketball-American runs a red doing a wheelie and gets hit by a car>family demands more gibsWhat the fuck is wrong with them?
>>29103876Just because someone else broke a rule doesn’t mean you can run into them. The car in that vid had *plenty* of time to react. I’m not saying the guy was in the right at all, but if there’s a random chaos obstacle on the road you don’t just run into it because it “shouldn’t be there.”
>>29103961To be clear. I don’t think the car was responsible at all. You shouldn’t have to clear to the right on a green left turn. It’s smart to do so however.
>>29103966why do people discuss traffic accidents saying "The Car" was at fault or not? shouldn't it be the driver?
>>29103988Because you're a homo.It doesn't matter, you understood what I said."The car" was shorter than "the person driving the car."
>>29103989i just think it contributes to AUTOCENTRISM to so blithely insinuate that The Car is responsible or not, but when another vehicle is involved they don't say "the bike" they say "the cyclist" or "the biker"
>>29103871>The city built bike paths to nowhereThose are for exercise. I drove to one yesterday and rode 10 miles along a creek on paved bike path as fast as I could for some cardio after the gym instead of doing cardio there. Its more fun.
>>29103995hes talking about urban bike lanes, not trails. nobody dislikes trails. even the most boomer faggot autotragic (((crossover))) enjoyers will at least drive to a trail and walk on it sometimesit's the 500m lengths of green paint in the middles of industrial zones that people take offence to
>>29101126Imagine being such a dysgenic, antisocial cunt that you not only think this is cool but associate with the most famously cringe dead retard of the millennial generation.
>>29103966What if instead of a cyclist it was a jeet in an 18-wheeler?
>>29104000I clear both ways in even rural intersections. You technically shouldn't *have* to expect red light runners - that's what I meant. You should definitely clear left and right.Obviously the guy blatantly running the red is primarily at fault.
>>29104014ok but it's still your responsibility to not hit stuff/get hit because traffic laws arent enforced and thus aren't real
>>29103871as a cyclist me self, even I think that was 100% deserved. niggers like such video gives us a bad rep.
>all this cyclist rage Holy kek!
>>29104094>t.
>>29103871I'm not disputing what you're saying. I'm not agreeing with it, either. I don't live where you live and don't anything about it.I said very clearly that the general fund is newly issued money. They don't need to take it from somewhere else in order to have it. That's not how government spending works.
>>29103705That's what winning looks like. You wouldn't understand, shitskin.
>>29100208I don't think they should be banned. But if they share the road with other vehicles they need pay their share via registration and hold valid insurance to operate on public road.Other drivers should also be absolved from any resonsibility regardless of life or death if the bicycles are proven to be violating traffic law or not have the right of way. As things currently stands, it serves neither side any good when bicycle riders think they can wheelie around whenever they want and drivers need to daycare (often times target fixate) these (adult) children
>>29105746a literal child's understanding of what driver's license fees actually pay for or how civil court and insurance work
