stretched tires look (and perform) so awful compared to a real tire
>>29100353Welcome to day 1 of not being a ricer and a wrenchlet, ya tranny.
>>29100357Based drifter
>>29100357Those are just normal directional tires not the ones OP posted that looks like the rim has a foreskin.
>>29100353Stretched tires are faster tires on track anon.But I'm talking about running something like 305s on 12in wide wheel. Pretty much every fast Miata I run with has a 245 stretched on a 9.5 or 10in wide wheelI run a 295 on a 11 and it would be a faster combo on a 11.5 or 12.
>>29100371Did you read any of the text in that picture?The tire was stretched and came off the rim in a corner, that's why he crashed.
>>29100384faster to lose grip and get you killed
>>29100405Anon, I'm not gonna argue with someone who doesn't touch the track.A slight stretch is the fastest combo every time.But I'm not talking about stance fags putting 206s on 10in wise wheels Pic is a set of Toyo RS in testing out.A 295/30R18 on a 18x11 wheel Has a slight 3/4in stretch.Unmounted tire mounting width is 10.25in while the wheel is 11in wide.
>>29100405Forgot pic.
>>29100384Lol.Ya sure kid.Thats why all the racing classes from karts to Formula Ford to F1 to NASCAR all run stretched tires.
You may not like it but this is what peak tyre sidewall looks like
>>29100454But I do like it
>>29100353What even is the idea behind stretched tires? Or potential purpose
>>29100579Aesthetics. I used to run stretched tires in the rear on my BMW because they looked cool
>>29100579You ever heard of the phrase 'logical extreme'? A tiny, tiny bit of stretch can be beneficial on track, but inevitably you end up with people taking it much too far, endangering themselves and others.
>>29100579People want to run big cool wheels but don't want to oay for the wide tires
>>29100353>oooOOOooH look stretched tires!>so unsafe!shut up bitchmade faggot. Its you niggas who are afraid to modify their car and dont drive race events is why the car culture in the USA is so garbage now and why cars are soulless. Most just regurgitate Boomer posts or opinions from YouTube. If you're not about it, then shut the fuck up
>>29100590>>29100596>>29100612so retardation, blind stat chasing, and being a cheap bastard
>>29100384>>29100405>>29100448They run stretched tires in F1, while nascar runs bulge.This is because F1 uses tire blanket heaters so they don't have to worry about pressure spikes while nascar starts cold with low pressure, so after a while the bulge goes straight wall.Stretch is faster.
>>29100579For drifters it let's you run really low tyre pressures without the tyre wobbling around too much.Which for the purposes of drifting gives you low side bite grip, which means you can chuck it sideways easily, but good forward bite grip so it will push forward and around the corner when you get on throttle.
>>29100664>hey run stretched tires in FThey are not stretched - the rim width is about the same as the contact patch
>>29100590>because they looked coolI have some bad news for you....
>>29100404I guarantee you he lost grip because they were backwards and the tire came off the bead when he hit the dirt sideways
>>29100777It's all subjective my man. Had them on my 4th gen supra sitting on monoblocks too because they looked cool
You only run stretched if you have the decency to at least steel band your wheels.
>>29100454I run fat tires not out of choice but out of necessity. But I like fat sidewalls anyway.
>>29100357>>29100404Nah that's not enough stretch to debead on normal tyre pressures, drifters run way more stretch than that and they only get debeads on flat road when they drop the pressures way down into the ~15psi range. >>29100780Nah 595s grip fine backwards But you're right he almost certainly debeaded after he already ran off the road, from the rim digging sidways into the dirt - seen it many times.
>>29100644>>29100664You know this isn't what people mean when they talk about stretched tires. It's picrel
>>29100830That is the absolute extreme of what you can get away with even on maximum pressure.That is the type of setup where it can (and often does) randomly let go because you hit a bump the wrong way driving on the highway. vidrelhttps://youtu.be/DVZ3b0gF0DI?si=GqRppTN3xwCRAOZW&t=119
>>29100780Still should have stayed on the bead
>>29100844wheels dig into soft dirt, happens all the time buddy
>>29100353>tires installed in the manner they were engineered to work perform better than tires that weren'tWow, thanks for the brilliant insight. True genius at work here.
>>29100781>because they looked coolIf you think they looked cool, they probably weren't. For example, Steve McQueen never thought he was cool - the rest of the world did and awarded him the description. That's the way "cool" works.
>>29100910I don't give a single shit what anyone else thinks. If I thought they were cool back then, then they were cool.I don't do any of this shit to please others
>>29100782>least steel band your wheelsPic relevant. It's a good use for old oil drums - what tune do they play?
>>29100384>Stretched tires are faster tires on track anon.Do you have any evidence to back up that claim? In my opinion, you are essentially giving up the wider contact patch you could have on a wider wheel by stretching a smaller tire onto it.
>>29100422>A 295/30R18 on a 18x11 wheela 295 tyre has a contact patch 11.6" wideRecommended rim width for 295/30R 18 is 10.5J - 11J is within normal range for OEM fitment - pic relevant. Not stretrched
>>29100840I don't think that had anything to do with the stretch - the tires were wider than the bodywork and, on full bounce the tire hi - you could hear it in the video hitting tire as he hit small bumps
>>29100911>If I thought they were cool back then, then they were cool.No. People were probably laughing at you behind your backs. Nerds think nerd packs and trilbies look cool - the rest of the world knows the truth.
>>29100923>*hi = hit
>>29100830>oh no stretched tiresthis chick has more style in her car mods than your bitch ass would ever have in yours. You guys aren't car people- just pretenders. You judge other people's cars instead of worrying about your own. The worst. Type of niggas who go to car meets and want other people to come up to you to talk.
>>29101142>stanced>stretched>debadgedstyle is one word for it
>>29101142>style in her car mods You are 12 and don't own a license
>>29101159you probably drive a rusty old slow land barge that the tire shops near you in that flyover state- hate when you come by and force them to put new tires on it.>>29101166you just got yours faggot and probably beg your parents to buy you a cooler car
>>29100923>I don't think the tyre randomly coming off the bead as you drive down the road has anything to do with the fact you have those beads under enormous tension stretched over a much wider rimYou might be retarded.Besides the obvious that I've just stated, it's also a well known phenomenon in the stance scene.
>>29100790they grip fine backwards as long as you don't see any water, if the road is wet enough they might even be worse than bald tires since the grooves are forcing the water to go towards the center of the wheel
>>29101142A white commuter car with blown shocks?
>>29101221have you ever actually put on tyres or talked to anyone that replaces tyres? they all hate low profile shit because the lack of sidewall to flex makes them a pain in the ass to mount
>>29101263Yeah of course, I thought the miata pic was in the dry but I can't tell for sure.
>>29100919Not all tires have the same contact part or wheel mounting width anon.Example:My 295/30r18 have a unmounted wheel width of 12inMounted on a 11in wide wheel results on a slight 1/2stretch on both sides.Slight, not a huge stretch.(Pic related )For some reason places like Tire Rack measure inside the tire, but that's retarded because that's not where the wheel touches the tire.It's the outside that does
>>29101346>A white commuter car with blown shocks?>low car means it cant drive oogaboogawhats with this board and attracting non-car retards?
>>29101358>they all hate low profile shithey oldfag, do you know what year it is? Been living under a rock? Most cars have tire sizing like that now- and wow, yes, with stretched tires as well from the factory! So dangerous!
>>29100454>>29100529>>29100664>>29100788this is what a tire is supposed to look like
>>29101567there are different kinds of tire and wheel setup for different kinds of racing. The same way for street usage and daily use.
>>29101490low cars handle, perform and feel worse. an unpainted grocery getter is just going to high center on the speed bump
>>29101591>low cars handle, perform and feel worseits not 1978 anymore. Most cars are low from the factory now with tremendous suspension range
>>29101605yeah, so why limit a car to using as little as possible?
>>29101244>You might be retarded.This is true, but you definitely are
>>29101650Guess you were too retarded to muster up an actual argument
>>29101435The free width bears no relationship to the intended width when mounted that's just the shape out of the mold.The data sheet I supplied is universal from the ETRTO - I don't know. But you think what you want to think, but you're not stretching those tires beyond normal OEM recommendations.I'd provide you a copy of the TRA datasheet as well as you're going to cast doubt on European data but I can't find one for free - the TRA is be US equivalent of ETRTO and the bible on tire fitting, not some guy with a tape measure
>>29101651Not at all - you ignored the point I made about hearing body-to-tire contact in that specific video and went into some parallel discussion about common issues in the stance world, so I assumed you were having some sort of breakdown.So go listen to the video and you'll hear the tires hitting the bodywork
>>29101435>fixed typingThe free width bears no relationship to the intended width when mounted - that's just the shape out of the mold.The data sheet I supplied is universal from the ETRTO - you think what you want to think, but you're not stretching those tires beyond normal OEM recommendations.I'd provide you a copy of the TRA datasheet as well as you're going to cast doubt on European data but I can't find one for free - the TRA is be US equivalent of ETRTO and the bible on tire fitting, not some guy with a tape measure from Tire Rack or wherever. In fact that average tire fitter will never have heard of the TRA datasheet, never mind referred to it.
>>29100926Good on them, people also laugh at jdm fags and people thinking their shitbox toyota is cool, so what?
>>29101653That's the chassis scraping on the ground bud
>>29101657>so what?So we all know they are not actually cool, no matter what they think. In the same way as you're and your shit is not cool either, precisely because you think it is
>>29101667Whatever, I don't care one bit. If I like it and think it's cool, that's all that matters
>>29101668>If I like it and think it's cool, that's all that mattersSure - you go ahead an continue in your delusion, but at least you now know the truthOther people unsolicited tell you your shit is cool - it's coolYou thinking your shit is cool - it definitely isn't
>>29101669Why should I care what others think?
>>29101671Because you think your stuff is cool - you are imagining what other people think. I just think my stuff is stuff.
>>29101492yeah and? doesn't mean they magically no longer hate them. there's still plenty of cars (and SUVs) that use taller sidewalls.i dunno why you bring up muh dangerous because i sure as shit didn't
>>29101673Ah, so I am not allowed to like or think my stuff is cool? Gotcha, thank you random asshole on a chinese moutai fermenting forum, I will disregard anything you say because you opinion does not mater one bit to me.
>>29101677You can think what you want. But thinking it's cool doesn't make it cool.And for someone whose opinion doesn't matter you've spent an awful lot of time trying to convince me that you can self-annoint stuff as cool, when you can't. Simple as.
>>29101678>when you can'tBut I can, simple as.And you sure have spent a lot of time seething about someone thinking their car and wheels are cool.
>>29101680>But I canNo, you can't. You thinking it's cool doesn't make it cool, as I've ably demonstrated.I'm not seething - I'm trying to educate you to help you not look like a dork while thinking you're cool.Clearly, you're so uncool you're beyond help. Just remember - every time you look at your stuff and think "Wow, that's cool" it probably isn't.off you trot now,
>>29100357Why doesntazda Miata come in this color anymore
>>29101492What fucking retard buys a 2 door sedan lmao
>>29101567That's not your car though. Show your car's tires.
>>29101708It's called a coupe, ignoramus
>>29101684I really don't care what some seething anon online has to think about anything, but you do you champ.You're not going to change anything
>>29101834the strange and foreign wheel and ride height styling confuses and angers that retarded anon- as it goes against everything he had learned about cars
>>29100830Serious question.How the fucking fuck to they get the bead seated??
>>29102058Petrol or brake cleaner followed by a flame. You blow the tires into place
>>29102059That's difficult to do with tires that fit properly. Its an old trick to bead tires on the trail. Ive done it many times in the shop and offroad.I dont see it working in this case.
>>29101706Too gay
>>29102060That's how we used to do it back in the day, if you want some proper balloons for tires, ratchet strap on the tire to squish it on the wheel. It's not going on easy that's for sure.
>>29102058>How the fucking fuck to they get the bead seated??Pressurized bead seater tank. Other ways Japanese do it is use bike tire inner tube on the bead seat to take up the slack, then just inflate the tire normally if they dont have that "cheater tank." You can also do the explosive technique like >>29102059 said.https://youtu.be/8xx2e6R4jY4
>>29102060>I dont see it working in this case.its an old street racer technique brother. Nothing different than that trail tire seating technique. Video related:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LADnwQ3g9KY
>>29102058>>29102060The serious guys will "pre-stretch" their tyres by leaving them out in the sun with blocks of wood wedged between the beads so that the tyre takes that shape.The other way to do it is you seat one bead by placing wheel and tyre ontop of a another tyre thats a bigger diameter than your wheel, then you jump on the wheel so the whole tyre gets forced to one side so hard that it pushes one bead on. Then you can flip the wheel over and when you stand on the other side it will stretch the tyre right out and make it easier to bead blast.The main problem with bead blasting/exploding the really stretched tyres is getting rid of the air gap - the blast won't do anything if there's too big a gap between tyre and wheel, that's the only reason they pre-stretch them.
>>29101607So the only viable suspension is hill climb or dakar-like suspension because otherwise you would limit your car.
>>29102506>hill climb or dakar-like suspension
>>29102506yes, exactly.>>29102514a man of culture!
>>29100782Based fitment, especially for boring old /o/.*wrong pic
>>29101669You are insanely autistic. Holy shit I'm feeling such second hand embarrassment just reading this awkward shit.
>>29103552I've had a lot of fun with that idiot who, rather than ignoring me, keeps on insisting he can anoint his stuff cool every time I post he can't - frankly IDGAF, but it's hilarious he answers every time saying how much he doesn't care what I think. Wait....that's not you, is it?
>>29103616You two should kiss
>>29103617You go ahead - personally I'm not homosexual
>>29100371You jealous of my foreskin, burger?
>>29100405>>29100448>>29100918https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/articles/wheel-width-is-wider-always-better/"real" race cars don't need stretch because race tires have extremely stiff sidewalls, but "normal" track tires have enough sidewall flex that some stretch is faster (even a little beyond the manufacturer recommended wheel width)
>>29103707you'll see similar patterns on other tests, e.g. 225 on 9 faster than 245 on 9 https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=296
>>29103506>nonca style
>>29103708I wouldnt call a 225 on a 9 stretched
>>29103506disgusting
>>29103506bro that looks icy hot
